Very good advice! I would also encourage to watch replays of any incidents you get involved in and try to analyze if you could've done something differently. Many times the incident feels much worse when in the race and 100% the other guy's fault, but when you analyze the replay objectively often times you can see things like "ok, I thought I gave him enough space but I ended up squeezing him too much" etc. Analyze and learn from it.
Amazing comment! I have pinned this as I think its the perfect extra tip for this video. I'm fortunate that I get to do this dozens of times when I edit the videos haha.
Another good tip is to finish the race, even if you feel it’s gone badly. Your ratings are based on incidents per lap, so if you ragequit after lap 1, you will loose way more than if you finish the race, regardless of position.
Very true. I tanked my SR this week from 4.9 to a 2.3 because of quitting. 3 of the races I was punted in lap 1 (got terminal damage and was almost impossible to drive back to the pits) and the other I ended up in a split 1 lobby and was 3 seconds off the lead in qualifying and almost 1.5 behind the second last guy. Decided that driving around in last over 10s behind the next guy and 30s behind the leader wasn't why I race online.Quit before qualifying was over. Lost a whole SR point on that one 😢😢😢
Thats one very good advice! I prefer to came last, that to DNF. I never forgot that my 1st DNF was due to a LFM server error, the race took ages to start and I eventually quit. Now I´ll wait until it starts, even if its is 15 minutes late KKKK 😅👍
Yea good advice guys! Incidents per corner is much worse if you only do one corner haha. I always finish as its good practice as well. Again always looking for some positive to come out of each race.
Solid advice there! I’ve also found (contrary to popular views) that racing AI is helpful, because I’ve learned from that the places where you think you overtake but can’t (bus stop entry at Watkins Glen for one example, never can make that work!), and places where you will need to defend. All in an environment where your mistakes don’t impact someone else’s fun. Looking forward to your next video👍🏻
Yes that's some good info. I found the AI does not play nice in those track scenarios where it requires respect from both sides to make it clean. That bus stop chicane is a good example, and also don't try and squeeze them on corner exit! I learnt that the hard way when using the AI to build the SA before entering LFM.
@@WolfiesWheels “racing AI is helpful” totally agree. After initially learning a track I jump on with AI. It helps me not over drive into the corners and i find a few stints with AI is the best way to knock off those initial seconds. I do a few sessions and gradually up the opposition % ( or whatever it is called).
Only guy in the race who can be called the fast guy, is the guy on pole in my opinion haha. But seriously, even if I'm 3rd but I was a couple of tenths off the pole time, I don't think I'm going to be winning on my own pace. So there is no point forcing a lap 1 move and being in a crash.
I love your content, brother I have no doubt this stuff is going to be so helpful for new drivers, and I would definitely recommend it for them Very useful perspective to have imo
Your video should be at LFM homepage! Straight to the point and tips that truly matter in sim racing! Have fun at LFM buddy, hope to find you in a race in the future 🙂
I've been onboard since his first video, and this is quality, well thought out advice for any sim racer. Regardless of pace. My only issue is that I'm on console, so I won't be able to race him just yet.😂
Some fantastic advice. I'm sure everyone knows how difficult it can be to stay calm after incidents that aren't your fault. The main reason people say to qualify at the back is to allow those in front of you to be reckless/crash out early, and then you can slip past without incident.
Thank you. And yes the starting from the back can allow you to slip by those making mistakes. However I have found that you need a very high level of patience to be following a car that is a bit slower and isn't making many mistakes. They end up being very hard to pass!
@@BradleySettersMotorsport that brings up another interesting topic, you have a slow, but competent driver in front. What can you do to force them to make a mistake so you can slip past? One trick I've seen is to fake dive bomb, and if the other person is paying attention, they will compromise their own line, effectively slowing them down more than they needed to.
Another great vid and great advice. Just done my third and fourth Rookie Races and I have to say i am becoming a bit frustrated. It seems from my experience so far that the rookie series is mainly full of fast drivers that can't race safely rather than safe drivers working their way up. A common scenario that seem to be emerging for me is: 1) I qualify in back 25% of grid , nicely positioned with drivers of similar pace; 2) I have a clean start and good first few laps, but see loads of drivers in front going off; 3) Those faster drivers then charge up behind me an inevitably by 2/3rds of the race i have been punted off the track by one of them. So, Bradley.... Idea for a video for you.... How to safely yield to faster drivers behind you. You mention at 2:45 you will cover this later and at 5:20 you do mention "find a safe place" but don't offer much detail. I think this is a key skill for "rookie" Rookies so if you can offer any advice from your experience this would be very useful. Keep up the good work.
This is a great comment! I am currently thinking about a video regarding race craft, done with my driving coach. So this is a good example of a skill that isn't often talked about. To help now though, I would suggest analysing the moments where those drivers make contact. I often find the best place to let them pass are the key overtaking areas of the track. And you can ease off the gas on the lead up, let them pull out next to you, and then brake early so that can take the corner without too much hassle. But if you find that they are trying to pass in tricky parts of the track, that passing normally does not occur, then its a bit harder. Just remember that its up to that faster driver to get by you cleanly. So stay predictable and don't try to last minute jump out of the way as a means of being nice. Sorry if it does not completely answer your question right now, its hard with out some examples. But its a great question for some future content that I would like to cover.
Cannot agree more! I too am a new LFM rookie driver and have the exact same experience…the seasoned LFM drivers run us off the track. And thanks Bradley for these videos, so so helpful, as they are well done!! Thank you.
Well done. I have been around for a while. Kinda wish your videos were around when I started. I would have normally said. No matter what happens always finish. But already said.
Couple of other key ones. Complete the race regardless of whats happened. If the car is damaged just get iof the track and hit return to garage. Trying to drive back you'll probabbly pick up some more incidents a d might accidently wreck someone else.
Those are great points! I had not thought about the damaged car scenario either. If the car is that badly damaged, the extra time loss wont making a difference anyway!
You've missed a HUGE point about SR. As a rookie, its WAY easier to gain SR. As a rookie (Sub 5 SR) 2 crashes and 8 track cuts, for 16 incident points, you would still GAIN SR. Probably like .1 or so. As a 9 plus SR, 4 incident point, no damage just track cuts, I get maybe .05. It is heavily skewed. I was above 9.5 and had 2 or 3 bad races, in a wide spread split (WEST coast Canada Problems) with bad qualifying on a track I wasn't familiar with, you end up surrounded with 5's and 6's playing bumper cars. and it its not uncommon to loose nearly 1 SR per race, thanks to their newer bonus system. I think I fell to a mid 6. been earning it back ever since. 8.88 currently... LFM Reads as: The maximum SR loss per race is 0.50 and a "bonus" depending on the current safety rating. Therefore, if a driver has a low safety rating, the loss will be lower than for a driver with a high safety rating for the same number of incidents and corners. The key part is the last sentence. SO when you see that Green Safety banner, they've earned it.
Its also SUPER annoying when you get hit with an SR deduction that's 100p not your fault, like what happen to you at Misano. (Gold lambo from Right field). Their new reporting and returning "SOME" of your incident points to the affected driver has helped but its not a perfect system. You're penalized regardless. And its time consuming always filing reports and uploading clips and dealing with it. I cant wait for AI live stewarding.
You are 100% correct, and its a great comment. The higher the SR the more you have to prove you are very safe, and more you get punished for the incident points. I could have talked for 10 minutes about the little details of SR, but I dont think it was a huge miss to leave it out of this video. Only 30% of LFM users are above 5.0SR. And only 2% are about 9.50SR. So I really wanted to just speak about my experience in rookies, and I certainly think there is a larger discussion that can be had of SR at the high level. I also think its rough to be hit with incident points for accidents that are not your fault, and I think the technology will eventually be in place to resolve that part. Right now my focus is getting to around the 8SR mark, and then not being afraid to try and really compete for Elo. Eventually the focus on SR needs to subside so that the race craft skills can really be developed, which will lead to mistakes unfortunately.
Very good advice! I would also encourage to watch replays of any incidents you get involved in and try to analyze if you could've done something differently. Many times the incident feels much worse when in the race and 100% the other guy's fault, but when you analyze the replay objectively often times you can see things like "ok, I thought I gave him enough space but I ended up squeezing him too much" etc. Analyze and learn from it.
Amazing comment! I have pinned this as I think its the perfect extra tip for this video. I'm fortunate that I get to do this dozens of times when I edit the videos haha.
Another good tip is to finish the race, even if you feel it’s gone badly. Your ratings are based on incidents per lap, so if you ragequit after lap 1, you will loose way more than if you finish the race, regardless of position.
Very true. I tanked my SR this week from 4.9 to a 2.3 because of quitting. 3 of the races I was punted in lap 1 (got terminal damage and was almost impossible to drive back to the pits) and the other I ended up in a split 1 lobby and was 3 seconds off the lead in qualifying and almost 1.5 behind the second last guy. Decided that driving around in last over 10s behind the next guy and 30s behind the leader wasn't why I race online.Quit before qualifying was over. Lost a whole SR point on that one 😢😢😢
Thats one very good advice! I prefer to came last, that to DNF. I never forgot that my 1st DNF was due to a LFM server error, the race took ages to start and I eventually quit. Now I´ll wait until it starts, even if its is 15 minutes late KKKK 😅👍
Yea good advice guys! Incidents per corner is much worse if you only do one corner haha. I always finish as its good practice as well. Again always looking for some positive to come out of each race.
Solid advice there! I’ve also found (contrary to popular views) that racing AI is helpful, because I’ve learned from that the places where you think you overtake but can’t (bus stop entry at Watkins Glen for one example, never can make that work!), and places where you will need to defend. All in an environment where your mistakes don’t impact someone else’s fun. Looking forward to your next video👍🏻
Yes that's some good info. I found the AI does not play nice in those track scenarios where it requires respect from both sides to make it clean. That bus stop chicane is a good example, and also don't try and squeeze them on corner exit! I learnt that the hard way when using the AI to build the SA before entering LFM.
@@WolfiesWheels “racing AI is helpful” totally agree. After initially learning a track I jump on with AI. It helps me not over drive into the corners and i find a few stints with AI is the best way to knock off those initial seconds. I do a few sessions and gradually up the opposition % ( or whatever it is called).
I’m consistent. Consistently bad.
I should have clarified that more haha
"No hero first lap" will drive the fast guys crazy because they think you need to kill everyone on lap 1.
Only guy in the race who can be called the fast guy, is the guy on pole in my opinion haha. But seriously, even if I'm 3rd but I was a couple of tenths off the pole time, I don't think I'm going to be winning on my own pace. So there is no point forcing a lap 1 move and being in a crash.
I love your content, brother
I have no doubt this stuff is going to be so helpful for new drivers, and I would definitely recommend it for them
Very useful perspective to have imo
I do hope it helps. Even if its just one person!
Your video should be at LFM homepage! Straight to the point and tips that truly matter in sim racing! Have fun at LFM buddy, hope to find you in a race in the future 🙂
I've been onboard since his first video, and this is quality, well thought out advice for any sim racer.
Regardless of pace.
My only issue is that I'm on console, so I won't be able to race him just yet.😂
Well I worked that that only 30% of LFM users are above 5.0 SR. So I just wanted to share what worked for me. Hope to race you soon!
@@ETR_Unicorn We need PC and console cross play!
Some fantastic advice. I'm sure everyone knows how difficult it can be to stay calm after incidents that aren't your fault. The main reason people say to qualify at the back is to allow those in front of you to be reckless/crash out early, and then you can slip past without incident.
Thank you. And yes the starting from the back can allow you to slip by those making mistakes. However I have found that you need a very high level of patience to be following a car that is a bit slower and isn't making many mistakes. They end up being very hard to pass!
@@BradleySettersMotorsport that brings up another interesting topic, you have a slow, but competent driver in front. What can you do to force them to make a mistake so you can slip past?
One trick I've seen is to fake dive bomb, and if the other person is paying attention, they will compromise their own line, effectively slowing them down more than they needed to.
Yet another brilliant video, Brad.
So much great advice here.
Thanks mate! Just sharing as I go, but I can see its helping people and that's the main thing.
Another great vid and great advice. Just done my third and fourth Rookie Races and I have to say i am becoming a bit frustrated. It seems from my experience so far that the rookie series is mainly full of fast drivers that can't race safely rather than safe drivers working their way up. A common scenario that seem to be emerging for me is: 1) I qualify in back 25% of grid , nicely positioned with drivers of similar pace; 2) I have a clean start and good first few laps, but see loads of drivers in front going off; 3) Those faster drivers then charge up behind me an inevitably by 2/3rds of the race i have been punted off the track by one of them.
So, Bradley.... Idea for a video for you.... How to safely yield to faster drivers behind you. You mention at 2:45 you will cover this later and at 5:20 you do mention "find a safe place" but don't offer much detail. I think this is a key skill for "rookie" Rookies so if you can offer any advice from your experience this would be very useful.
Keep up the good work.
This is a great comment! I am currently thinking about a video regarding race craft, done with my driving coach. So this is a good example of a skill that isn't often talked about. To help now though, I would suggest analysing the moments where those drivers make contact. I often find the best place to let them pass are the key overtaking areas of the track. And you can ease off the gas on the lead up, let them pull out next to you, and then brake early so that can take the corner without too much hassle. But if you find that they are trying to pass in tricky parts of the track, that passing normally does not occur, then its a bit harder. Just remember that its up to that faster driver to get by you cleanly. So stay predictable and don't try to last minute jump out of the way as a means of being nice. Sorry if it does not completely answer your question right now, its hard with out some examples. But its a great question for some future content that I would like to cover.
Cannot agree more! I too am a new LFM rookie driver and have the exact same experience…the seasoned LFM drivers run us off the track. And thanks Bradley for these videos, so so helpful, as they are well done!! Thank you.
Well said my friend!
good tips :3 and nice video ^^
Finally got out of rookies. Thx for the advice which I took too the races
Amazing work! So glad this has helped you. Hopefully will see you in a race soon then!
Well done. I have been around for a while. Kinda wish your videos were around when I started. I would have normally said. No matter what happens always finish. But already said.
Thank you! I'm a late starter here, but I had some many new players comment on my videos! So I know there will be people who will get value from this.
You should try driving Mount Panorama with the 992 Porsche GT3 R, it’s super fun once you learn the track and definitely tests you
All in good time. I certainly don’t have the skills to pull that off at the moment haha.
Sometimes I prefer starting last to skip the chaos
Yea I see the logic in that. I do find it can sometimes just delay the chaos though.
Couple of other key ones.
Complete the race regardless of whats happened.
If the car is damaged just get iof the track and hit return to garage. Trying to drive back you'll probabbly pick up some more incidents a d might accidently wreck someone else.
Those are great points! I had not thought about the damaged car scenario either. If the car is that badly damaged, the extra time loss wont making a difference anyway!
You've missed a HUGE point about SR. As a rookie, its WAY easier to gain SR. As a rookie (Sub 5 SR) 2 crashes and 8 track cuts, for 16 incident points, you would still GAIN SR. Probably like .1 or so. As a 9 plus SR, 4 incident point, no damage just track cuts, I get maybe .05. It is heavily skewed. I was above 9.5 and had 2 or 3 bad races, in a wide spread split (WEST coast Canada Problems) with bad qualifying on a track I wasn't familiar with, you end up surrounded with 5's and 6's playing bumper cars. and it its not uncommon to loose nearly 1 SR per race, thanks to their newer bonus system. I think I fell to a mid 6. been earning it back ever since. 8.88 currently...
LFM Reads as: The maximum SR loss per race is 0.50 and a "bonus" depending on the current safety rating. Therefore, if a driver has a low safety rating, the loss will be lower than for a driver with a high safety rating for the same number of incidents and corners.
The key part is the last sentence.
SO when you see that Green Safety banner, they've earned it.
Its also SUPER annoying when you get hit with an SR deduction that's 100p not your fault, like what happen to you at Misano. (Gold lambo from Right field).
Their new reporting and returning "SOME" of your incident points to the affected driver has helped but its not a perfect system. You're penalized regardless. And its time consuming always filing reports and uploading clips and dealing with it.
I cant wait for AI live stewarding.
You are 100% correct, and its a great comment. The higher the SR the more you have to prove you are very safe, and more you get punished for the incident points. I could have talked for 10 minutes about the little details of SR, but I dont think it was a huge miss to leave it out of this video. Only 30% of LFM users are above 5.0SR. And only 2% are about 9.50SR. So I really wanted to just speak about my experience in rookies, and I certainly think there is a larger discussion that can be had of SR at the high level. I also think its rough to be hit with incident points for accidents that are not your fault, and I think the technology will eventually be in place to resolve that part. Right now my focus is getting to around the 8SR mark, and then not being afraid to try and really compete for Elo. Eventually the focus on SR needs to subside so that the race craft skills can really be developed, which will lead to mistakes unfortunately.
What Layouts do you use?
Recently started using ACC Drive. I will do some videos about it all soon, as there are a lot of features!
@BradleySettersMotorsport Thank you I just got it myself. And yes I will be waiting for that video, the app itself not that easy to understand.