2023 Honda Africa Twin 1100 | Is It Still Relevant?
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- The 2023 Honda Africa Twin has been a very popular adventure bike over the last few years. Having been around for a while now, I want to find out if it is still relevant and as good as the competition in the adventure bike segment.
With many updates over the years, is the Honda Africa Twin still the go to adventure bike for far flung trips, or has the competition from other manufacturers over taken the Africa Twin?
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This gem of a bike will still be relevant when other bikes are long forgotten...
You don't truly appreciate reliability until the nearest breakdown service is in another country.
The badge says it all: I would choose this bike for a trip in Africa.
As for the Ducati Desert Ex, the badge says it all again: Desert Ex-pect trouble.
This is a great point, Honda reliability is second to none 👍 Perfect for an adventure
It is a boring bike around town but when your on the back roads it is an absolute animal if you spend enough time to learn how to ride it. Best bike I have ridden and step off it every time with a massive grin on my face
Great to hear you enjoy it so much 👍 It is a fantastic bike, however did not gell with me at the time. I look forward to riding the new 2024 model
I like the sound of these 270 degree twins. I was listening to a video of the NC750 Honda with various aftermarket exhausts and at low to medium revs they sound very nice.
They are great engines and still retain some character. Yup Honda have nailed the sound with them thats for sure 👌
As you said, it is very important to match your choice of bike with your intended use. I see many people buy large touring bikes when they ride local B roads and others who buy smaller single cylinder bikes then complain they are "no good" for super highways.
To be fair, it'll do gravel, rock, shale, ford streams & small rivers, mud, you name it. Gotta be a little more careful as it's pretty heavy, but it does handle off road quite well. Source: did the Honda Adventure Experience at the end of March, had an absolute blast.
Exactly, all bikes have their own purpose. It really is important to buy what suits your riding style and wants. For comfort and off roading this is a great ride 👍
Great vid. I have a 2017 with stiffened suspension and it's excellent.
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video 👍
I just bought a 2023 twin adventure sports with the electronic suspension and find the suspension excellent. You can set it firmer for the highway and twisties and there is zero wallowing as you describe. Or you can soften it up a bit for poorer roads and it handles them with ease. Your comments in the video make me wonder if you played around with the manual suspension setting at all? Regardless I am really liking the new bike and the ease of adjusting the suspension to find a likeable setting is worth the cost. Coming from a Yamaha XSR 700 I am totally shocked that the AT handles the highway and cornering better than the xsr. I was expecting it to not turn in on the corners as the xsr but it is better.
I am sure the new electronic suspension helps a fair bit. No I did not fiddle around with the suspension much on my 2016 model, was new to riding and didn't want to mess it up! Not saying it is a bad handling bike, but it is definitely on the softer side of riding. I also found it a little top heavy.
it would be nice if Honda kept building bikes
If they can't get production back up I'm getting a Norden 901. The AT wait lists are 6-12 months out. No 2023 announced for USA market.
They announced they were coming to India in 2020 and we're struggling with availability back then. It has seemed to only get worse since then.
@Marco Chavane yes there are other choices but like Triumph they are more expensive what is going on with Honda anyway ? all the major Japanese bike builders seem to be slowing down
And not in China
I've been waiting 8 months for a CRF 300 Rally. My patience is wearing thin.
@@kevincraig8257 ended up getting a Norden 901. Got tired of waiting. Could not be happier.
It's an absolute blast on the road and the low slung fuel tanks make it just as easy to pick up as my CRF300L Rally.
Can cruise at triple digits if I want to. Gets 55-60mpg so fuel range is spectacular as well.
I have a similar story. I had a 2017 and sold it after a short time. The suspension was soft and the brake dive pretty bad. Since then I've been through several bikes and finally figured out that I missed the AT and so I ended up buying a 2020 base model. The improvements with the 2020 are significant. The motor is a little more powerful but I find the biggest difference is the suspension on the 2020 is much stiffer and better on the road than the 2017. It still feels and sounds like a big dirt bike but I have a lot of fun riding it around the busy metropolitan area where I live.
I have a 2017 DCT and echo your suspension experience, especially as a bigger guy.. I did install a cogent dynamics rear spring and have their front springs ready for install hoping the nose dive will be mitigated. Other than that no complaints. I love the DCT but miss the interaction of clutch etc. If I buy another bigger adv bike it will probably be a manual AT.
You sold the 1000 because of the suspension. Which is upgradeble, i did that for 700 euro, its a completely different bike. Its a shame people ditch such a good bike because of something so simple.
That is interesting to hear, there is something about this bike that pulls me back to it! Just love the styling, noise and comfort etc... great fun with a good end can on 😁
I have a 2022 Africa Twin (non-Adventure Sport), have done close to 4000 Km on it so far - it's been amazing so far. As far as "everything bikes" go (which is why I got it) it's up there. Handles the highway beautifully, curvy hills just as well (check out my last short) and offroad it's obviously a beast. The handling is surprisingly good for a big bike. The engine is amazing (and sounds amazing), the torque is great, on long rides itns comfy (although I'll probably get a softer more padded seat).
One thing that has been annoying is the infotainment (Apple Car Play/Android Auto), which glitches sometimes (volume adjustment, disconnects unexpectedly for no reason etc.). I hope a software update fixes these things.
They are great bikes there is no denying that. Must admit I am looking forward to riding the new updated 2024 model, with it's 19" front wheel. I think it will help a lot with road connection and front end feel.
Cheers
It's still relevant, alright. Look at the angle at 1:00. Stunning. My favourite one of the lot. And I like the basic L model the best. I had the original AT 750 for four years, the RD04. I bought it in Tokyo when I lived there and shipped it back to England. Three trips to the Algarve followed. 100 per cent reliable, as you'd expect. The wet weight of the CRF1100L is 238 kg. It does look a bit top-heavy, though.
I think it is definitely the best looking adventure bike. Nice to have owned the original 👍
Yes for me the AT is a bit too tall and top heavy feeling
I bought the AT 1100l in 2020 and it's been my everything bike ever since, got 47000 british miles on it and still runs like new.
Only issue i had was the exhaust valve getting rusty and being stuck which was solved by replacing it with aftermarket can and a slight oil leak in the front near some connector but other than that, no problem, doesn't eat oil, starts in a split of a second every single time, goos fuel economy, rides like a sport bike when you want it to, it's trully a fantastic bike for me.
Great video.
Im in the process of selling my GSA. Had too many nigles for my liking, especially with the ESA. Fixed under warranty but took over 7 weeks to sort.
Im wanting a work horse, but still something i can have a little blast on.
I've narrowed the replacement donw to
1090 Adventure
Honda Africa Twin 1100(base).
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed the video 👍 These are great work horses. Really strong Honda reliability and build quality. Great for any conditions
STILL relevant? Wtf this is literally brand new model ayfkm.
Jist got 2018 dct model and its fookin slayer nothing i ever owned comes close and dct is game changer ;
Yes new model, but lets be honest very similar! Some small changes.
If you love it, then thats great.
From my own experience, this review is spot on. I owned a 2017 model, which was good in almost every respect... but for some reason, which i couldn't put my finger on, I could never really warm to it, and ended up changing it after 12 months. There was also (unusually for Honda) a few build quality/finish with the early ones, caused by Honda cost cutting by sourcing certain parts from China (for example, the spokes corroding badly within a few months of ownership). I understand Honda have resolved these issues with the newer models, but I've never been tempted back to one, because ultimately you have to love a bike as well as it ticking all the boxes for what you need.
Yes it is a great bike but it just didn't quite hit the spot for me. I am sure some people fall in love with it, I love certain parts about the bike, but the whole package is just not quite right. Just personal opinion though!
May I ask what you changed to?
@@Inked_CR I changed mine for a Triumph 900 Street Scrambler and then a Triumph 1200 Scrambler. I loved both bikes.
I just sold my 2018 African Twin the 2023 looks sweet
Hi and congratulations for your enjoyable review. I love AT and also Tiger 900 GT Pro. You tried both, so which are the main strengths and the main drawbacks of boths?
Thanks in advance
Thanks 👍 Depends on your flavour of bike. The AT has great character and torque from the twin, however the 900GT revs out nicer and feels more agile to ride. I personally prefer the Triumph 900 GT
Thank for your fast reply, I like them both. I also be more attractes by the tiger Rally Pro, but I'm really afraid of them vibrations over 120 km/h. Also I will use it for commuting so I think DCT could be preferable over a quickshifter. What do you think about?
@@kiudont Yes DCT would be great for commuting, although the QS is very good
@@kiudont I have a 900 and there is very little vibration I think people have over stated the vibration. I have owned KTM. BMW Suzuki and a few others and I can honestly say no issues at all.
It will always be relevant as it is far too nice (and well-designed) of a bike to ever not be. LOVE mine. 2022 ATAS DCT
I have a 2021 AT AS, love it. Great on hwy and great off-road!
👍 they are top quality bikes and I can definitely understand why so popular
Wish Honda would actually ship some to the US
Nice video, Wet weight of basic model is 226kg, adventure sports 238kg
Thanks 👍
Love the look of the AT. Is the base model okay for road use only? I'm 6'4" and need the room but don't like the price of the AS version.
Yes the base model is absolutely ok for just road use 👍 Great bike for taller people as well
The AT is best bike in the history of bikes, ever.
An easier question might be "should you buy old bikes?"
I love this bike,and you you shop round you can get a fully laden recent model for a good price ❤
If Facebook groups and Marketplace are to be believed, it’s very difficult get new or used ATM.
Second hand is always a great option
Also bought mine with dreams of riding across Africa. Never happened 😅😅
It is unfortunate, but a practical reality!
You meet the nicest people on a Honda! Africa Twin is a cool man.
I think the CB500X would be a bit more suitable for me however
It certainly is a cool adventure bike, and in my opinion the best looking ADV.
It will always be relevant, its in its own category all on its own.
Of course it is relevant, bike still packs top electronics, touch screen tft, android auto, probably the best and nicest sounding engine among its competitors and honda reliability plus relatively cheap servicing costs.
I got rid of my flawless 2017 AT DCT with some regret. Totally trouble free. Now I’m anxious to get a 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sports ES DCT with the meatier 19” front wheel biased a bit more for street use. If reliability is #1 on your wish list, it’s spelled HONDA!
They are such solid bikes, and also great to ride. Really instill the rider with confidence 👍 You can't go wrong with an AT
Will at Abingdon Honda is a top fella. 👍🏼
100% great guy and so helpful, he will do well 👍
Well I have been into my local Honda dealer many times with the intention of getting a ride on one of these and the sales guys can't even be bothered to say hello and ask if I need any help, so it has been their loss. I have sat on one though, a friends 2021 bike, and it was so tall. I couldn't even get one foot down! I'm 5'7"- 5'8" with a 29" inside leg. The engine sounds great but I dunno it just seems lacklustre. I have had a ride on a KTM 1290 SuperAdventure couple of years ago and loved that. Lots of power and character, much more a rider's bike. I would say that possibly the KTM 890 Adventure R would be a better riders bike than the Africa Twin.
They have murdered the looks of it this year as up until last year the looks were one of it's strong points.
I think the new Transalp when that arrives in showrooms will be worth a look. Not so big and heavy and same engine as in the new Hornet.
Yup it is strangely tall! I agree, the KTM's are much more of a riders bike and more involving to ride. Think the main benefit of the AT is the comfort factor.
Yes I think the new Transalp will actually be the better bike of the two, looking forward to testing it out 👍
@@redangrevival Agree.
I've put 30k miles on ATs between a 21 &22 . They are a awesome motorcycles. When you get used to the DCT and how well it works I'd have a hard time buying a bike without it. And its a Honda. Best dealer network in the USA.
8:05 well that thing weighs a ton for an "adventure bike". I wish my Tenere 700 would be even lighter. 230kg for the AT is a lot of weight if you are tip toeing when you need to reverse. Or you get off the bike and push...
Yes I always found the Africa Twin a bit top heavy. The T7 is a true adventure bike 👍
This is why I bought the 1290 super adventure. Semi active suspension. Push the button and you have sport suspension. Push it again and you have off road suspension. Love it.
I believe the AT adventure sports has active suspension (I think)! However yes I would definitely go with the SA 1290 over the AT 👍 Much more fun!
@@redangrevival I rode a demo 1290sas, Jesus Christ it's got so much punch! Very very very fast!!!!!!! Too much heat came up from the rear cylinder, my right leg was roasting!
@@terrystratford1235 I LOVE that bike 😁
10:50 - thing is though, a lot of folks want a jack of all trades, a swiss army knife of a bike, a bike that can do everything, and the AT comes close. With the DCT you have quite a good track bike - watch Guy Martin on one (there'd video on here). Chap I was talking with at the Honda Adventure Experience said when Guy rode the AT he had no idea about its sport modes or anything, and he was riding it in D, the luggy fuel-saving mode, *and still was able to get away from a relative noob on a Hayabusa*!
That is impressive. However put Guy Martin on any modern adventure bike and it will go fast!
@@redangrevival true, he'll get the best track performance out of anything, but if it hasn't the ability to accelerate or brake, or hold the road, the performance envelope of the bike will constrain what he's able to get from it. One thing DCT does superbly well is gear shifts. Drag race the (heavier) DCT AT against the manual version, the DCT wins.
Given the unavailability of new AT’s, an equally interesting question might be: Of all the models produced ( including farkles) which are the most desirable as as a pre-owned purchase?
KTM 890, Triumph Tiger 900. Or second hand GS 1250 👍
Do you think the NT1100 has a better connection with the road and would you prefer it?
Good question, yes I do 👍 Think the NT suits the roads better. Prefer the AT looks but NT better on road
Nice bikes but they just are down on power. Is the dash screen blinking? Would drive me nuts
The dash blinking is just an effect of the camera. It is fine in really life!
Some of the guys that have Rebel 1100 with that same engine have had problems with oil leaks around the stator cover. Have you had that issue on your bike?
This is not my bike! I owned a 2016 model and did not have that issue.
Sounds like a less serious problem. Unless its a ford 2.7L ecoboost because i saw a cover in that that was so migrane inducing i couldnt imagine how much id hate myself if i bought the truck and it started leaking and i thought "hurr durr 4 cylinder going to be easier for monke brain like to work on like 90s toyota corolla honda civic" but thats not how it seems to be
Depends on what your riding needs are.. I have the 2022 AT and love it but the KTM 890 Adventure R is rubbing on me due to the more extreme off-roadness of it. You can do the same with the AT given you set it up for it.
Absolutely just depends on your wants from the bike. I personally would go for the KTM!
I used to have 21 AT and now i have a 23 Norden, so basically an 890 adv, and BOY is it much more agile and fun to ride. The AT is obviously very capable and reliable but the fun-factor on the 890/901 is so much better. The AT was a better highway bike with taller gearing, but the 890/901 smash it in handling and offroad. If I was doing longer touring id take the AT due to much smoother highway performance.
Funny you ask the question “is the Africa Twin still any good?” When you began the video saying you didn’t get along with the older model. It’s incoherent. BTW the Honda quoted weight of 226KG is wet weight in base spec trim (as tested). It’s important when doing a review to be accurate with specs. I wanted to be constructive in my feedback and am sorry to say I failed. This review feels more contrived than natural. I think this video isn’t representative of the quality you are capable of. I look forward to seeing what you can produce next time as I am certain you can do great videos. Cheers.
Hi, sorry you didn't like this video. I suppose they can't all be winners! I had the chance to ride the bike, and just wanted to give my opinion on it. I used to own one in 2016 and was just curious as to how it has kept up with the competition. Cheers
I love my AT.
your jacket needs a wash haha BTW mine is even worse ... that was long winter
Haha tell me about it!! 😂 I’m just holding out until summer.
That's just my thoughts and feelings about my '20 Adventure Sports!
Not gonna sell it, it's great, just fighting with my conscience for not to add a Ducati Hypermotard RVE to my garage.
Haha that would be a fun addition!
One of the bad things about the AT, which you experienced but didn't note, the wind noise! The wind on the AT is *so loud* it made my ears ring even with earplugs in!
I got a quieter helmet, not enough. I tried different plugs, not enough and still annoying. Air dam atop the tank was ugly and insufficient. A Madstad windshield *completely* fixed the problem and only long highway rides even require ear plugs.
I suppose that varies depending on the individual. I didn’t notice it, but at highway speeds it is probably more prevalent!
I always wear ear plugs anyway!
Hearing is a huge threat to us but we also need ticbe abke to hear the ambulance coming. I bet yiu the solution is easier than we think
Nice vid. If I went for an adventure bike I wouldn't go for the Africa twin. Undoubtedly a reliable engine but personally thinks it looks way too slim. no decent windshield little or no wind protection give me a Tiger GT pro 👍✌
Thanks 👍 I actually like the looks of the AT. However feel it is a bit of a disconnected ride! Same I would go Tiger 👍
Hi all, I've to buy one between AT and Tiger 900 Rally Pro, for everyday use (commuting and day trips in the week end). The Triumph seems more premium, but I am very scared about the vibrations over 120 km/h, what youe opinion and ecperience about?
Yes, it’s still relevant. But, at my 30 inch inseam, it’s just too tall for folks like me.
You should try Ducati desert X, what a feeling that bike gives you!
Almost has universal praise as far as the mechanical design and riding experience is concerned. I fear what holds it back is the ownership experience. It’s very expensive to keep maintained, parts are difficult to obtain and a lot of the service work is proprietary so you need a specialist dealer to get it done. Fortnine did a fantastic video review on the Desert-X.
I have a video on it, brilliant fun 👍
Pity valve adjustment is such a nightmare. Love the bike regardless...
Thats what i was worried about. God forsaken valve adjustments. We only got 1 life to live man can we not automate the valve adjustment somehow someway so I can think about my relationship with christ more than i have plan when to adjust the valve across a fleet a cheap bikes i couldnt resist buying
It was updated in 2020.
I was tempted by the Africa Twin before I decided to go with the KTM. These are really good looking bikes especially with all the bells and whistles fitted as you mentioned. I’d like to test ride the DCT version just to see what it’s all about but I might just fall in love with their Monkey when I see one in the showroom! 😊
Solid review!
Cheers,
Lupo
Dont ride dct if you can't buy it.
Its one way ticket 😂 its like inventing a wheel again, every thing else feels obsolete and you keep asking yourself why all bikes arent dct yet!? Theres literally no downside to it...
I have a 2020 ATAS DCTes now with 21000kms from new. Dirt bikes all my life of 56 years. Have mountain skeds, ATV/UTV, Z06 and Boss 302, Duramax Blah, blah blah. I be seen many transmissions, and suspensions, and love DCT! It's got so many benefits, for city, hiway, and off-road. You get the best of both worlds! The electronic suspension is the bomb! Panniers or pillion on or off, off-road soft or highway stiff, is adjusted in seconds and very compliant! We camp of our across western Canada, off and on road for weeks, and found them reliable, and comfortable for long day tours.
@@Angry-Lynx Ha ha, so no test ride for me then!
@@billmcmeekin7909 I’m 54 and currently on a KTM 1290 SAS which also has a semi-active suspension that works really well. I ride it mostly in automatic mode, the bike then feels the same for me with a pillion or without, loaded or unloaded. Because the tires on the KTM are done and I couldn’t get immediate replacement I took my old Suzuki DR800 for the commute the last two weeks and it was immediately obvious how much better the suspension on the KTM is. Motorcycles have come a long way and we are truly blessed with the quality of these machines and the huge amount of choices we have today.
@Jim Doar I always say the best bike is the one you own and ride. Sounds like you've found a stead that's reliable and you enjoy immensely. Happy trails and a great 2023 season Jim :-)
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Friends: "Why do you want an African Twin? That is a total ADV-Dad bike"
Me: "I am a Dad"
I like where honda is going with the africa twin its just a lotta money to pay. This is like wjat i wish the klr was. I dont like dct but having your gps, a windsheild. Cruise control i think it should be an option on everything. Even my heelies
ANY honda will still be relevant no matter how old it is.
Well anything can errode to dust and someone will offer that you pay them for them to dispose of it for you or some joke. Not every bike is going to be a collector bike forever bro a lot of these bikes are built to get train ran on them and them eventually theyre so cheap an 18 year old puts the nail in the coffin chopping it up trying to make it cooler and revs its guts to death.
Thats like asking if a running motorcycle is still valuable.
Haha Morocco. That's funny. I brought a sprinter and in 4 years gone camping 4 or 5 times. Back to the piont. Honda is still the best but what's going on with them? This bikes great. Sound is better than a ducati without aftermarkert pipes.
I know right haha! One can only dream this bike would be so much fun on a proper adventure. Yup the sound of this exhaust in standard form is just brilliant. Same with the new Honda Hornet. Great bikes
J'ai eu les 2 .
Cette AT 1100 standard est magnifique mais malheureuse elle a perdu le charme, le son et les vibrations de AT 1000 qui était beaucoup plus simple avec moins d'électronique.
Par contre, la désert X que j'ai testé est beaucoup plus fun avec un superbe son ;)
Interesting to hear the difference between the 1100 and 1000 👍 Yup the Desert X is much more raw feeling engine
this disconection with the road is the only thing that make me conserned for this awesome bike.and thats why i m thinking the vstrom 1050 with 19'' frond wheel.also, although i m not too short,i have the same height as you,i found this bike way too high and big.i dont know. ..i love the looks of this bike.but i think i ll have the same problems as you.i m closer to vstrom 1050,i just havent ride it.actually both.just have sat on them.which you would say is a sportier bike,more agile?but to be able cross dirt roads.and not over this in price.thanks
Hi, yes I agree with you on the height, and disconnection etc... For a sportier ride I would go with the new V-Strom 1050 with the 19" front wheel 👍
Hope you started with these two words ^ easy to ride ^
I actually prefer this base model over the adventure sport! It's so flickable and fun! Adventure sport is still a great machine, but for me, just not as much fun in the twisty roads! My only worry is the tubed tyres! Can anyone put my mind at ease concerning fast blowouts!?
I agree, I prefer the standard model 👍 Much easier to handle
@@redangrevival I've noticed the Honda vids talk about the big adventure sport, but show the base model going crazy over rough terrain!
@@redangrevival I've been researching tubed tyres! Not what they were 30 years ago! The modern tube helps prevent a puncture, tyres are stronger and yes more expensive! The problem of yesteryear was we would reuse an old tube! As the tyre wears it expands, along with the tube. Then put old tube in new tyre, tube will crease and more heat is created! This in turn can cause a blow out! It's now law the tube is changed with every tyre, or 6mths! So I'm a little more confident getting the base model! Also rally pro make tubeless spoked wheels, a set is just over 2 grand thou! Plus, I can't see a manufacturer putting something deadly on a bike as they could be liable for many deaths! So....I'm going with my heart and getting the fun agile base model with dct, in red, with a decent slip on for a Bit of noise! Thousands less than the adventure sport!
@@terrystratford1235 A good decision 👌
Maybe I've been lucky but I've been riding primarily off road dirt and dual sport bikes with tubes for 40 years and the worst I've had was a slow leak. The key is to use HD tubes over the basic tubes.
I am just looking into my first adventure bike forv50/50 and I am leary of Tubeless ha ha. Here in Canada I only run 10 ply E tires in my trucks because too many Flats with 6 ply C tires. So if I buy an adventure bike with tubeless and it's time for tires, I will be searching for HD ply for peace of mind and of course carrying plugs and sealant.
To me, the proper question to ask, is, is it relevant given the new Transalp??? The Transalp is lighter, less top heavy, and has a more sporty engine.
That is a great question! Yes I agree, I think the new Transalp may be a better bike. Looking forward to testing it out 👍
Maybe it's not. Good chance they have made the transalp to good and it will mean the end for the AT. I feel bmw always held the 800 back so it wouldn't impact 1200 sales.
@@chrishart8548 But the BMW 850 GS is a twin, the 1200 a boxer. Two different kettle of fish. Both the Transalp and the Africa Twin are parallels, the Transalp having a more sportier engine from the Hornet. The AF is more off road orientated, but top heavy. For most adventure bikers, soft off road adventures, the more fun street Transalp should be more adequate. That is how it seems to me, and the Transalp is considerably cheaper, too.
@@davidmallia628 I have an 800 and many have stepped up to the 1200 it is a logical choice. Led headlights tft dash are a few of the reasons and less vibration. I wonder if the 850 was made deliberately heavy with a small fuel tank and non adjustable forks as standard. And a Chinese engine that seems to have upset a lot of people. I'm not bothered about a twin vs a boxer.
@@chrishart8548 the boxer is unique in lowering the centre of gravity, making it feel much lighter than it actually is. Easier to pick up when fallen, also, since it never falls flat due to the pistons. The 800 is meant to be more off road, and the Chinese engine has proven to be premium.
I think you bought the wrong version of AT. Based on your complains over suspension you should buy version with electronic suspension. This version is very much planted on the road, you can corner it to the footpegs and bike is very stable. When you put in the Off-Road mode it's totally different bike, still very capable.
You are welcome to check following videos:
Off-Road th-cam.com/video/xHJgrXvjX30/w-d-xo.html
On-Road th-cam.com/video/99QxMMI1lIw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the information 👍 That is actually good to know! Cheers I’ll take a look the those videos
Not my kind of bike - but what a fantastic looker! Lovely bike.
They certainly stand out from the crowd and really nail the adventure look
You said that is not powerful enough. Did you know that you had it on the lowest power mode?
I have tried all the modes yes. However i did try sport mode again off of camera, and actually it is much better 👍 Thanks
"Is it still relevant" - i would put this title after 10 years
100%
I have a 2018 base DCT model. Yes, it is very top-heavy. It's much harder to walk and move around than a Gold Wing which is 300 pounds heavier! The 2020 models brought more power along with a revised chassis and suspension geometry. I considered upgrading to a new one, but Honda has stiffed the US, and we are not getting ANY 2023 Africa Twins. I do love the engine sound and it's been very reliable, but if I stayed with the AT, I would really prefer the AS model with the larger gas tank, tubeless wheels and electronic suspension. Ultimately, since I don't do a lot of off-roading having that big 21" front wheel is kind of unnecessary. It really is one of the better looking adv bikes out there, but lately I've been looking at other bikes that might fit my needs better.
Hi, I agree it is a great bike and I did enjoy owning mine. However as you say, if you are not off roading then there are better bikes out there for road use. The engine on the AT is fantastic and sounds great, but the 21" wheel does let it down on road.
Like what bikes
It's a Honda. They know how to make a motorcycle.
Agreed, top quality 👍
Many say it's uncomfortable on long runs
I’m surprised! I find it very comfortable
A luxury couch will be uncomfortable if you sit in it long enough
My couch is just fine and I can lie on it for hours, I have also a 2002 africa rd07 and can ride that solid 4hrs@@censored4christ162
For me Honda Screwed up Pushing the DCT trans BS. Idk how good it is. shift the gears. Outside of that Honda Should have Made it Cheaper and Smaller! 800cc maybe
This bike is Too Big and Heavy to be Legitimate offroad
Tiger 900. T700, KTM 701. I would take over this bike if hour doibg any offroad
I think the one to look out for is the new Transalp 750 👍 Slightly smaller and easier off road for sure.
I think it will be a better bike all round
@@redangrevival Unfortunately I'm in America
They're overpriced (in Australia). $24700 AUD for the base and $28000 AUD for the non dct sport version (at that price, you may as well just go for as 1250GS etc). At that price, it's the heaviest and least powerful (power to weight) of all it's competitors. It does look cool though.
Supply and demand strike again. That said I paid a couple grand under ticket.
Yes I agree, at that price the GS makes more sense!
In Canada I purchased a new 2020 base model for $17000 while the 1250 gs base model was $26000...I guess the price is vastly different depending on what country you buy it in.
Smooth...!!! This is like a vibrator on wheels! 3000 rpm's and is already begging for 6th gear. Suzuki 1050 and Kawasaki Versys 1000 beat this thing any time... TOTALLY!!!!
I disagree! This bike is smoother than the Suzuki imo
Very pricy with a few modest options. I’d have a 1250GS in preference. Not as pretty, perhaps, but better all round especially the engine. If found my ATAS to be vague and disconnected.
I feel exactly the same!
if it is not u can send it to me no worries here
Yea mate , did you run out of cliches
No plenty more to come
Oxygen, is it still relevant?
😂👍
I bought an ATAS DCT ES to replace my 2014 GSA. Big boots to fill but after 9 months, frankly it didn’t. The DCT was clunky and unresponsive in traffic needing manual intervention to change down plus irritating sport modes. It vibrates through the bars despite rubber mounts. I found the steering vague and brakes not a patch on the GSA. The ES was a huge disappointment being very soft to hard but not reactive to smaller bumps. The footrests are too far forward making standing unpleasant with the bars too close. All in all a pretty bike that disappointed. My 890 Adventure proves that less is so much more. And fun!
I get exactly where you are coming from! I just didn't gel with my 2016 model, I really like the bike and think it is top quality, but something just didn't do it for me.
I would also have the 890 over the AT 👍
@@redangrevival I’m not alone, thankfully! In reality it’s just that. It didn’t suit me where the 890 does. Our unicorns are personal and sometimes there are stages of discovery plus, of course, needs/wants change.
WHAT A LOAD OF BULL. wHAT A PRINCESS
Haha!
Long haired and perhaps a year or two older Johnny Walker. Weird.
Man what are you talking about
The dumb titles people come up with for clicks.
lol, none of those big bikes are relevant 🙂 ... riding dunes in Morocco, hahahahahaha!
why buy an adventure bike to ride on tarmac anyway?
I disagree, I think they are great bikes! So practical and easy to ride, and also great for all year round use.
Under powered and boring.