The Collector (1965) RARE Making of from TVO's "Saturday Night at the Movies"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Terence Stamp and Samantha Eggar discuss working with legendary director William Wyler in creating the psychological kidnap thriller adapted from John Fowles literary masterpiece. This brilliantly acted 2 character study influenced Stephen King's "Misery", Demme's "Silence of the Lambs" along with episodes of "Criminal Minds" and several low budget exploitation flicks.
I saw the film as a young man of 26. Then I read the book, and was immediately drawn to the writing of John Fowles. Then I read The Magus. A brilliant book which seemed like it would be impossible to film.🤩🤩🤩🤩😏
I really liked the film - to me it was the first stalker film. Now the book, I liked the first half (which really describes the budding stalking) but not so much the second. The narrative of the girl seems to much like stream of consciousness - it was like Fowles thinks he's James Joyce. But still a good read.
The kidnapper hated her. He knew he was beneath her. I marrried a jealous control freak who barely let me out of the house. One night, thinking I was sound asleep, He leaned over and whispered, "I HATE you." He was stunned when I began openly sobbing. Eventually we divorced, I served him. His Father ran roughshod over his Mother. I never trusted him again plus he was a cheat. People who are not trusting without cause assume others are like them, CHEATS! He was the insecure one.
i think the film was mesmerizing. and scary as all get out!! - suspenseful -- dripping with raw neuroticism. the performances were fantastic! evidently wyler used the emotional starkness to make the actors dig deeper to bring out the undercurrent of a kind of slow motion mounting panic from a grievous violation that really builds up to real horrifying violence. and then shows the man's character turning into an unfulfilled monster demanding a repeat. this film stuck with me because it is like a case study of segments of the human condition. unforgettable......
His attitude of entitlement was insufferable.
Samantha Eggar was just so beautiful that it took my breath away...
Great performances.
I was walking on this very street on Saturday. The cinema is gone now though.
I have this movie. Wow! I didn't know this was based on a true story. I really enjoyed this information about this film. Terrance Stamp was very handsome and Samantha Eggar was very beautiful in this film.
Оооооо!!!как я рада видеть Миранду Живую!!!😪Фильм -замечательный....хоть и Тяжёлый......Супер.по телевизору смотрела 2 раза.Но в ютубе не нахожу посмотреть полностью.всегда сомотрела с середины.так как случайно включала телек....Смотрела с открытым ртом....не двигаясь.....с Надеждой -что Миранда убежит......
I think this month will be catch up on movies I have,nt seen for ages month 😂
I did not know it was based on a true story. Thanks Sam.
0:38 Really?
That's quite an accusation.
Maybe I'm wrong, correct me, NICELY! DONT BE NASTY, life is too short, but didn't Terence Stamp's career never reach "greatness" again- he's brilliant in this film, I've seen it, studied it ( as I have Fowles superb novel) many times over the years- Mr. Stamp arguably one of the most handsome, sexy, actors - he just seemed to take lesser parts and hadn't got a great body of work IMHO to look back on- that's why I said, correct me, nicely- and initially he wanted to decline this role! To work with the great William Wyler! Nuts! Namaste from Film 101 ( unlike her book hero, Holden Caufield, I LOVE films!)
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@@Caswell39ADavern I agree with all you said. I am biased ! To me the film is perfect, bad pun, but never a wrong note. You ARE up on your trivia! I LOVE music, all genres, not just rock and I got laughed at, still do thinking about it, for confessing to enjoy musicals, if I'm in the mood! I am contemplating buying a 2 CD set of Nino Rota's film music but prices on Amazon have really risen, like gas here in Canada, always SOME excuse to gouge the "little guy". I think the soundtrack is spot on- Jarre might have done better- he's superlative but going the way they did, playful at times- her innocence is amplified- when she is on the way to meet her professor/ lover and she picks up a stick and runs it along the fence- ( I won't get Freudian- I love the late, George Carlin and I just recalled one of his thoughts on Freud, movie scenes, advertising-) no, I disagree with whomever took offense to the score being off- and here's a good one- we had an ancient black and white TV, lord I feel, OLD, no wisecracking! you don't seem like that sort of person- I've seen the film in bl. and wh. and it works- the only problem for me as a "woman in love with Terence Stamp's BLUE eyes" - I hadn't thought about Ms. Eggar's lovely red hair- and I suppose too, playing the green, "bucolic" English countryside off of the grey, dungeon-esque house- I love that house by the way- love old houses- I live in a Victorian which was cheap, a "fixer upper" but has cost an arm and a leg because it had been "scotch-taped" sort of for unwary idiots like me, people who buy with their heart not their head- I am nearly finished listening, again, to The Catcher in the Rye! Discussing this film made me want to re-read it but I can't locate it- bookworm and my dusty attic is like something out of a horror film. Sorry for my digressions and often strange segues, I have an upside down circadian cycle, have had for over a year- I try not to sleep in the daytime - I usually don't but nothing has helped. I am not bi polar but I do suffer from chronic depression and anxiety- speaking of mental, emotional illness- watching Terence Stamp, handsome as he is- creepy, absolutely creepy- far more so for what he doesn't say or do and how neatly he's dressed etc- imagine if, heaven forbide they did a re-make- ! There are some films which shouldn't be reinterpreted for "contemporary" mores- I am a computer geek, I likely have a way to place the accent over the "e" etc, a French keyboard but don't know how to access it! Thanks for replying- most people don't and the odd one, gets mean! "Stream of consciousness" type observations, to some 15yr olds are "rambling, babble, incoherent- which many can't even spell! - don't misunderstand me, I really enjoy most teens- on a volunteer job ( a local food bank) I worked with high school kids and two seniors- one of the seniors, a former teacher had to be removed from the front, registration desk" for her neo-Nazi like behavior- she must have been the sort of teacher who helps shape a budding sociopath like Terence's character! I shouldn't joke- I watch a lot of true crime, forensics fascinate me and I often wonder why more isn't done- why teachers, parents etc aren't trained to watch for certain traits- oh, I apologize for running off at the mouth! My house just "creaked", my Siamese "lunatic" cats finally went back to bed after destroying lord knows what...Again, apologies for length and "segues" - are you a music fan- like Maurice Jarre, jazz fan? Back to Salinger, almost finished, poor Holden, I wouldn't want to be in his "Guccis" ( I loathe loafers, with or without tassels!) Namaste from Tom Waits Nighthawk Diner, corner of Been There St. and Would Love to Have Ave.
17:13 Apparently Eggar's claim about Trevelyan falling asleep is completely untrue.
Curious to how you know that.
@@Caswell39ADavern I’ve read it in a couple of places.
It also seems implausible.
1) It’s unlikely that Trevelyan would attend a screening without any other members of the BBFC.
2) If he did and had indeed fallen asleep then how would anyone find out? It’s very unlikely that someone would admit to sleeping on the job - especially if it leads to the release of something that is technically illegal.
3) I’ve never heard anyone other than Eggar make this claim.
4) Trevelyan wasn’t recently married. He had last got married in 1959, six years before The Collector was released.
@@ppuh6tfrz646 I can't think of any major Hollywood release of that era having the criminal getting away with murder. Still, you maybe right. For years it was assumed the British censor board banned 'Clockwork Orange" when in fact, the head of Warner Bros says it was Kubrick's demand to have it withdrawn from distribution in England over concerns of safety for his family. History is often rewritten as we well know and are presently witness to. Thanks for the quick response!
@@Caswell39ADavern You're welcome.
I could see them re making this into something really good with the two leads from harry potter??
really interesting idea, bud! Daniel and Emma are the right age.
Ya, and I bet he could act pretty creepy if he wanted to...
I did not realize till years later that this was the first stalker film I watched. He was so meticulous in his plan and keeping his victim. Now why I despised him: he was an example of classic Freudian projection. He dislikes her (I hate this expression) la-di-da ways. No not hers, he was the one with a superior attitude and entitlement. He is completely obvious to the fact that he has created a very serious crime and is interfering completely with someone's life that he has no right to do. His attitude of entitlement in taking what he wants was insufferable.
Brilliant. Love any terence stamp film - so varied from Billy budd to collector, then madding crowd, superman, adjustment bureau and song for marion
She tries
Weeping, sex, standing up to him, defying him, domestic fantasy
I am so glad they got away with that ending. So many movies were damaged by the censors. Hitchcock wasn´t allowed to to make Cary Grant a murderer in "Suspicion" and "The Nanny" wiht Bette Davies had a much darker ending too; I remember when I first watched The Collector I just was amazed as I did not expect that kind of ending and other people who watched it told me the same.
The movie resonates as it has no "moral compass". The viewer isn't manipulated into the traditional "bad man/horror movie" simplicity. Originally, it was to be in 'black and white" with a Bernard Herrmann score a la' "Psycho" but Wyler kept it ambiguous. (Contrary to many, I love the Jarre music score as it lets us inside the "Collector's" psyche and twisted innocence.) Some female co-workers I gave it to were left perplexed and really disturbed. "We thought he was such a nice guy,..bullied, pathetic and shy,.. but could be reached if she just gave him a chance. But then it turned out,..he's just a sick creep with no conscience who in the end, thought only of himself!" Good lesson learned when dealing with sociopaths.
@@Caswell39ADavern good point. actually i saw the movie first and i read the book after. i really like both, and i felt the same like your co workers about even if you know he is doing something bad , in some point you feel sorry for him too, maybe thats because the way terence acts ( and i know he is a very good person), but in the end the character really never loved miranda, he never feels guilty when he didnt try to get a doctor in the book, and just starting to spy another girl with the same plan we see he is not going to change.
And i was thinking when i was watching the movie about a happy ending.... maybe he is going to let her go, maybe she is going to fall in love with him( like stockholm syndrome) but it was a surprise when she died.
The character is so scary because he is so ordinary. The last page of the book is wonderful.
A very interesting movie.
The book is more interesting.. but the feeling it leaves you with, oh god, very hard to overcome.
Serial killer Leonard Lake took his inspiration from this book and film ... & he also roped in a stranger Charles Ng to join him in his depraved behaviour.
Yes! Lake did his evil deeds near our old ranch in Calaveras county california. Utterly heartbreaking and horrific.
John Fowles R.I.P. was one of my favorite writers. I didn't know he based this on a true story- horrible- but at least he didn't kill her. Superlative acting, directing, etc. Great film. Great film. And Terence Stamp's looks...sigh...Very interesting listening to the actor's discussing the director's vision of the novel, like leaving out her love interest...Thanks for uploading...
kneel before Zod!
A great film
When was the interview filmed?
Most likely the mid 80's,..maybe early 90's for Canadian TV. I edited in the comments from Stamp from a PBS special on director Wyler's career.
@@Caswell39ADavern Nope....It Was 2004...as of 0:49...Good catch...🥎
I would have liked a happy ending. Maybe Wyler wanted a different actress and had no choice. Samantha Eggars acting capabilities should have been sufficient; offscreen cold shoulder treatment is disappointing, as Wyler was too great a director for that. Interestingly, Terence found himself in similar circumstances as Samantha, in his next great film. Bizarre!🤔
The movie followed the book's ending, though differed in the captor's reaction to captive Miranda's illness. Wyler was a soft egg in a hard professional shell anyway.