I’m so sorry Mr Hamer and Centre Place for some of the hateful comments left in these videos. I’m so happy these have continued in spite of them. I found solace here during the beginning of the pandemic, and so grateful for the education and community
Say what you want about Pastor Hamer but he is an encyclopedia of biblical texts. I enjoy his presentations and how patient he is with some of the questions he is asked, or the audience members who have to interject with their little tidbits. I may not agree with everything he says or believes yet I respect his study and knowledge.
God bless you. God will bless all those who bless and curse all those who curse... it's a pity. Everybody knows so much they know nothing - if what it is that they 'know' causes hate and division. If that is what they 'know'... then the Lord doesn't 'know' them. To 'know' is to produce the 'fruits of the kind' - the fruit one produces is indication of the 'spirit' they are of. Thanks Johnny... you are appreciated greatly. Shalom.
Like all SUNday (vernal day of the SUN-the sun worship demon god they serve) "Sunday", they are nothing but a whore daughter of the abomination in Rome papal occult masonic demon driven system of ERRORS. Like 100% of the SUNday churches world wide ARE under hasatan's sway. Called Manichaeism theology, Westminster confession pf 1639 & TULIP/OSAS rom the spawn of the devil Augustus of HIPPO and his cohort Constantine whole both perverted the Apostle words. Main anything that came from them "another gospel another Jesus" which again is 100% of the SUNday occult church brands and label. I Having escaped that witchcraft sorcery network have countless times proved it.
I was an atheist for decades, I stopped believing as a hubristic teenager. I would never believe you if you had told me I would watch biblical lectures for entertainment. My eyes are open now though.
I love how much is written about and attributed to this character. Even things as far out there as him being Thoth and builder of the great pyramid. I’m seriously considering naming my first son Enoch because it is such a cool name with a cool history.
Dear Mr. Hammer, your talks on Bible are so inspiring that make me fallen in love with the history & the development of Christianity & other Abrahamic religions! Do you have some suggestion on book & study for independent researchers that want to delve deep into the subjects? Any references or book list would be so helpful to me! Wish you to be healthy & happy, Cheer!
Well that is really going to solve the fact I am going to die like the rest of us and none of us know what happens afterwards, and its scary as heck. Who cares whose son and grandson of some person 12,000 years ago was? they are all dead too now, and their lives dont change ours, nor do they teach us anyrthing that can save us from our certain demise. One can waste one's life listening to biblical stories and fables, but they do not explain the existential condition or dilemma, 'to be' involves ageing and death, and is not a satisfactory solution, but to 'not be' is also not a satisfactory solution, therefore, neither choice is nice. And thats all we got, so we are pretty much doomed, except for the unrealistic hope that some benevolent being made a special room for the babies to play in called heaven, but also made a hot oven for the kids when they are naughty. Humans believe some of the most ridiculous things, that only humans could think up. This universe never thinks up such nonsensical stuff. The laws of physics make more sense than telling me angels came down from heaven and spoke to ancients, but stopped when we invented cameras! Because they didnt want us to prove they exist, as we are required to believe with blind faith.. yeah yeah.
@@AjarnSpencer science rejects the Old Earth hypothesis, apart from the agenda driven institute employed puppet types. It should be obvious even from our exponentially decaying high altitude fields around our planet that Earth is only several thousand years old. Listening to the liar who made this video will not help you.
@@AjarnSpencerin this life we mostly all get to choose right and wrong. No so for some who's parents force them into evil practices, but most of us get to choose what we believe. "The bible is an integrated message system from OUTSIDE of our time domain " is how Chuck Missler describes God's word. That choice of belief is the testing ground to the last page where God lays down HIS requirements, so we can't say we weren't warned. Bible. Revelation 22:13-20 [13]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. [14]Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15]For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. [16]I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. [17]And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. [18]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [19]And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. [20]He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Personally I'll take the verse 14 choice. Verse 15 may be the default for failure to read God's word but its still a choice and being "without" Meaning outside of eternal life is not a wise choice for anyone.
@@AjarnSpencero sorry for your nearsightedness. You do not fear the LORD, that is you do not hold HIM in AWE, sadly. GOD LOVES US…amazing since most do not reciprocate. I hope you read the Ten Commandments and an explanation of all that those words mean. They are a guide to the society that GOD WILLS to happen. FREEWILL allows us to reject HIM. Sadly😢. I hope someday the HOLY SPIRIT WILL tap your heart and soul. The TRUTH IS out there. Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIGHT. May GOD BLESS YOU, NOW🙏❤️🙏
The interesting thing about the phrase "in his days" associated with peleg, is that "his days" overlaps pretty much very other patriarch on your visual chart showing the overlaps of their lives. so, whatever happened in his days, happened in their days as well. either way, interesting lecture, thanks for all of these lectures, you do a great work.
All the nations were divided with their own languages so they would have the opportunity to remain in the LORD without interference from worldly concepts of men corrupted by delusional LIES from Belial.
It would be helpful to mention the fact that 2 Enoch has long also had a place in Jewish Merkavah mysticism, and that it probably originated in a Jewish context. Enoch (Metatron) functioning as a mediational figure for Jews, similar to Jesus' mediational function.
Fascinating that the Bogomils (Christian gnostic group) heavily used 2 Enoch. My understanding is that 2 Enoch is also an important text in Merkavah (Jewish) mysticism and the Kabbalah. Raises the question: Did Bogomils (& other chr. gnostics) practice aspects of Merkavah mysticism?
Bogomils were not Christian gnostic group. And they didn't practice mysticism. They practiced something way more different. They didn't like Christian Church at all. That's why majority converted to Islam when ottomans breached in to Kingdom of Bosnia in 14/15th century. Majority of bogomils as well as the high chair of bogomils leader called "Djed" ( granpa ) were in central parts of today's Bosnia.
@@greenlightning6971 According to wikipedia: "Bogomilism was a Christian neo-Gnostic sect. The Bogomils called for a return to what they considered to be early spiritual teaching, rejecting the ecclesiastical hierarchy."
@@greenlightning6971 Apparently, your definition of "Christianity" is narrower than mine. As I understand it, many gnostic Christians were among the most devout. I believe that a person can reject the Church and still be a devout Christian.
@@robinstevenson6690 ,I actually was born and still live in the city which was the "capitol" of bogomils. I can read "glagoljica" ( old language of theirs ) ,there are hundreds of stone writings around the city and archeological sites here. Just recently ( last year ) tombs have been found with remains of at least 60 individuals with jewelery,pots, personal belongings and many more. Some 2 kilometers from my location. Wikipedia is full of shit.
Thank you so much for these lectures! Learning loads 😊 do you have a suggestion for a good translation of any of the books of Enoch for someone who isn't scholarly? I read Uriel's Machine ages ago and became interested in Enoch, but my attempts to read the source material failed due to a confusing translation. I've been thinking about returning to the ideas in Uriel's Machine with more information. (though not from a perspective of trusting the authors, anymore......).
You have to know about Enoch being cannon in the Ethiopic Bible, and it’s preservation there. Why did you not include this piece? My translation was derived from this discovery and was created around 1900.
I personally found the practical answers to so many foundational questions in human development in areas like mining and smelting as well as musical instruments and so much more in the book/books of Enoch.I refuse to believe that several thousand years later the validity of removing them from scriptures made any relevant points regarding the hosts of heaven not being able to have sex with humans as the angels often appeared in human form and those who went to lots house house were threatened with sodomy and left as angelic men with might and power.Somehow as time moved on the church found itself almost incapable of correcting past errors in the various councils as to become caught in Lucifer's half lies and defended them by burning and martyring some of the saints.I hate that I live in a time where few churches believe that Genesis is a myth with a moral story and not simply the truth FATHER GOD OUR CREATOR handed to all to understand the mystery of GOD AND man and our continued failure to love our Creator and the effects of our selfish desires and pride that has led us to believe science is our hope not GOD
So..., you will find that of the 10 possible, you will ONLY find this in 1 through 3, though one was found in 10 and earlier, in 6 and 5. Only recently, it was found in 4, I mean 7 and 9, but yes, also in 4 and 8, from my understanding. Wow!
How can anyone say for certain that to God a day is 1000 years and believe it to be truth? We are talking about creation before the Sun and Moon are created. Who knows how long a day is during this point in time. Explanations from biblical scholars are obviously mistaken. God is in eternity where time has no meaning or use. He is neither in the past, present or the future but always is and can interject at anytime or not at all.
@@jms7726 Whose year and Day is Peter referring too? You can look at this 2 different way's. It could be that one of man's day's to God is like a 1000 years to God. Meaning, each day going backwards to the birth of Adam is 1000 years each. Now count all the days back to Adam. Multiply that by 1000. That would be within a few thousand years of the Makings of The Heavens and The Earth. It will be a long, long time ago.
Who's day? When God made the Earth. There was only one day. God's day. That makes our "Day" 1 thousand years. I know that the Sun and Earth were not made 6 days ago. I was at work. So it took God 6 of our days to make The Heavens and the Earth. So it took 6000 years to complete. He rested on the 7th day. So, 7000 years total. God made Adam on the 6th day. Now count the days to present and multiply by 1000. We know Adam was born before the flood. Which scientist believe happened 9600 BC. Well, we know Noah was born before the flood. It's a little more complicated than we thought. That why I don't think it's one of God's days equals a thousand years to us. It's one of our days is 1000 years to God. We can't forget he is in eternity. No time passes.
Here it is: If flood happened 9600 BC that's 9600 + 2024 = 11624 years x 365 days = 4242760 days x 1000 = 4.2 billion years ago Scientific age of the Earth is 4.5 billion +/- 50 million years. I'd say this is close enough for the girls we go with.
Paradise being in the 3rd heaven originates from the Lives of Adam and Eve, another apocrypha book, I believe, which dates prior to both Paul & 2nd Enoch.
25:00 - I think I'm related to Augustine. People do not realize the troubles that they bring upon themselves. In Revelation, the 'prideful' grab the mocking and "where is your God" comments as some source of 'external' evil, when instead the 'question' will be answered by the facts that God is misrepresented, leaves us no responsibility, and will even fly out of the sky to come and save those who are not worthy to be claimed not saved. There is certainly a 'rod' for these situations, but my heart is broken for those who claim to 'see' and yet are 'blind'.
And I'll add that we do NOT serve a God of 'confusion'. Confusion wrecked the tower of Babel, because we choose to make our 'own' name. Confusion caused many enemies to turn on themselves. And as Jesus said, "Let the 'dead' bury the 'dead', as a house divided against itself will 'not' stand - thus, 'be still, and 'I' will fight 'for' you - that you need not fight.' Johnny? Can we talk? I see something that needs to be 'seen'. Shalom.
Good presentation! Many interesting facts I hadn't heard before. I tried making it through this book almost 30 years ago, but lost interest when I started reading about the snow storehouses. I think you are reaching with the analogy of Daniel interpreting Nebuchadnezzar's dream being an example of it all going downhill. The book may have been written later than the history it was describing, but it wasn't describing The Golden Head as being the first (or greatest) kingdom ever historically, just the one that they were currently in (in that story). I don't think there is any obvious clue that would lead one to believe that the author of Daniel believes themself to be living in the time of the ten toes of iron and clay. Also, there is no mention of the succession from gold to silver, to bronze, as being a gradation of wisdom, morality, or even technology of those kingdoms. Usually in the more ancient traditions of the 'It's all downhill' from some divine original high point, there is some mention of a return to that state. The only real difference, to me, is whether one viewpoint suggests that everything becomes a utopia in one instant, like a return of/appearance of 'fill in the blank', or the other view that change appearing to go from high to low is just myopic bc it then changes back gradually to ascent in a sinewave like motion, such as the Greek great year/cycle, or the Vedic Yugas.
The fact that this comment section is full of poor people that have fallen for conspiratorial delusions like young earth or flat earth is actually a bit scary.
You stated Jesus is not mentioned. The phrase “Son of man” is in Enoch. The OT and NT references from Daniel 7:13, psalm 8:4. Rev 1:13, 14:14, are relevant. Jesus himself, in mark 2:10 calls himself this phrase. The that Mark retells a narrative learned secondhand, that Christ himself called himself this is very significant. Why did u leave this out? Your knowledge is vast. Thank you for answering my three questions if possible. I thank u for your time and contribution. It’s been very interesting.
The Book of Enoch was alluded to by Yeshua of Netzaret and quoted by Yehudah/Jude. Shabbat Shalom!!! Shalom in Yeshua Mashiyach of Netzaret!!! Baruch Haba B'Shem YeHoVaH!!! Thanks for sharing!!!🤗
pseudopigraphia: fancy historian word for fanfiction ;) I actually wrote my dissertation on fanfiction, and I wish I had had this talk as a source then: even more examples of how derivative fiction was a common historical/ancient genre!!
Someone else later 🤷🏻♂️🤣 How do you think books and stories are written? Please don’t tell me; You really think this is a real history event, written by a Guy living 600 years, walking with „God“, going to heaven and back and he is the only guy who wrote it, about 6000 years ago? 😂
I am Bulgarian. And we were no barbarians. According to history. „Thracians“ were smithing gold from about 5000 BC, what is normally called the „bronze age“ 😅 And we invented a language spoken from more people than English. We were feared mercenaries and probably the ones that got beaten often, call us barbaric 🤷🏻♂️ BUT: we don’t hold a nation for 1400 years with barbarous behavior. Instead we have the oldest traditions in Europe. Roman soldiers adapted to our culture ✌🏼
32:37 - God took him. I will say this... I, or the me that was 'me' no longer exists - orher than for the 'dust' that is my 'body'. Spirit wise... I have been 'taken'. There are (2) pillars that guide us... cloud by day and fire by night. When we walk in the light (day) we follow the cloud and we 'meet' with the Lord, same as Jesus, one with because we only seek to serve His will. When we walk in darkness, we follow a pillar of fire, stumbling and even sometimes 'falling into the fire', as the New Testament states. And are refined, and are saved as eacaping from a fire. These are the pillars of heaven, and related to the statue, except time has (2) paths... one that ascends 'up' the statue, and the other 'down' it. The iron is the rod and the clay is what is formed by it - God's Law. This is why Jesus said you will see messengers ascending AND descending upon the 'son of man'.
We do not find the solution/answer to the riddle in the past. We will find it in the future. If they find Arthur C. Clarke's a space oddyssey books in 3000 years under a tomb they will make a religious text out of it. Whoever said that we did not write fiction back in those days? As man learned to write, he already knew fact and fiction, so he will have written both. Not that i am not an avid digger of the books of Enoch, I am, as i read Ezekiel at age 15 and that already flipped me, because i had already had a close encounter of a certain kind as a child,and what Ezekiel states, is accurate to my experience to some degree. It was also clear that the appearance of whatever it was, is connected with us, not some alien from another planet. UFOs are some kind of phenomena connected with our human mind or spirit.. They are connected to us
UFO's are and were probably made in Atlantis, one of the 2 still existing continents they hide for us on our flat square earth as described in Enoch1. They stole 12 hours from the Atlantic Ocean and added it to the Pac cific.
Of the 3 Enochs books only the first Enoch was written by Enoch in Noah’s lineage whereas the other 2 books were written by Enoch of Cain’s lineage - see Gary Wayne
I don't know that Gary Wayne can be trusted on this. He brings together a bunch of interesting ideas but is far too caught up in racist conspiracy theories to synthesize them properly.
Second and Third Enoch have been proven to be written by scholars and scribes pushing their interpretation of first Enoch. Only first Enoch was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Second and Third Enoch were deemed heresy.
Well I am a born again son of GOD who found nothing heretical in the books no matter what was decided as much of the councils debates focused on spirits mating with humans in spite of many scriptures that say it clearly that were never excluded or denounced.Just because the council members were learned believers they disagreed on many things that are clearly stated and Godly in their content in showing Satan's influence over one third of the hosts of heaven and their destruction upon humanity as they set themselves up in every culture to be worshipped as gods
@@glennfivestarkevindodge5654 the whole one third of angels rebelling against God is not in the Bible it is only in the Heretical works of Enoch and as such is heresy. If you believe Satan waged war against God and led one third of the Angels you believe in Heresy and Superstition.
@@angelique544 finish the chapter 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. 11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.” 13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring-those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Revelations is not about a past fall of Satan but a future battle where he will be cast down when the second coming has been fulfilled. And you are equating the stars with angels when it clearly keeps them separate as two different things. The 1,260 days is the same number of years until the Messiah after the Witnesses. Once again future events to John not past.
@@angelique544 and the stars falling from the sky is one of the signs that the return of Christ the Glory of God has come. Revelations 6:13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.
There's a general consensus among "scholars" that 2nd Enoch was written within the past 1500 years or so. Documenting the story of a man who purportedly lived 5000 years ago. In a world where mankind was created some 7000 years ago. I don't watch "the news" on tell lie vision for truth either.
I should also add that what people fail to understand in regards to "hell" (niflheim is the Norse underworld and it's ruled by the goddess hel which is where the word originated from) or Hades in Greek, the duat in Egypt etc etc and this is this. . When they refer to underworld they aren't referring to that fire and brimstone judeo Christian nonsense (that's from Dante) or some subterranean realm.. like all biblical stories it's an allegory and the big secret here is that THIS is the underworld.. we just assume that this is life and what comes next is death but the ancients believed the opposite.. This is the underworld this is death... You're already in hell my friends
Your discussion of the longevity problems of Genesis identifies one of the (many) problems with the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic Text, contrary to all the advertising literature, is NOT the original Hebrew. The Masoretic Text was "translated" in the tenth century AD by a people with an agenda to unseat the King from His throne. The length of years specified in the Masoretic Text are there to obscure the time of the birth of Jesus. The Septuagint Old Testament doesn't suffer from this bias and so the dates specified there are 100 years (on average) shorter than those same ages in the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic Text has several "difficulties" and it's not all dates and times - length of years. But they are almost exclusively problems in prophetic writings about the Messiah. Very odd how that happens. The New Testament, when citing or quoting the Old Testament, almost always cites the Greek OT (the LXX). Jesus fulfilled prophecies that you can easily find in the LXX but strangely, not so readily found in the Masoretic Text. Funny how that happens.
i find it amusing that you are talking about biblical books and you use bce and ce instead of bc and ad. when, exactly, did bce and ce occur? this makes no sense.
Enoch 1, the only fully survived was often attributed as the Ethiopic in Ge'ez. But believed it was first written in Hebrew or Greek or Latin? Sounds like oxymoron , how about the book was originally written by Geez then translated to others ? Hmm? How about the person Enoch/Henok was from earliest Hebrew decedents who were colored people 7th generation from Adam , the 1st person hence the oldest dwellers were in modern day Ethiopia hence making him ancient Afro Middle Easter person. So get this, Geez is said to be the first language of Adam and eve thought by Angeles, making it heavenly language Did i go far or make sense supported by true historical data. Btw i am Ethiopian and believe me i am not biased except telling what's my findings so far and love the book mentioned and know the 2nd, 3rd books of Enoch. Why is so much fuzz on the authenticity of the book as God inspired while we get quotes from that book in the new testament?
"This is not a study of Enoch but an attempt to impose your ideas to undermine the Word of God. You have the audacity to link Enoch to Bogomils and Gnosticism? Their teachings are so far from the Enochian teachings. Do not listen to this scoffer!"
The evidence for a 9th planet of sufficient size to be called one under the current rules is weak, and will remain so for the forseable future, as space telescopes with sufficient sensitivity lack enough field of view to actually find it by anything other than luck and/or prayers being answered. Sure, it would clean up some perceived anomalous dwarf planet orbits... And for the record, I think the dwarf planet distinction is insanity by the astronomers who insisted on it. I much prefer the planetologist definition: Self rounding via gravitational strength and in solar orbit. Sure, that means >30 planets (Including Ceres, Vesta, Pluto, Haumea, Orcus, Quaoar...)
Oh, why are these great books not part of the bible? BECAUSE THEY BREAK CANON! Melchizedek has an origin story? Okay, there goes the Book of Hebrews, which tells us specifically that he had "neither beginning of days nor end of life but made like unto the Son of God" (Hebrews 7:3) People who think it's a good idea to just throw all this garbage in with the other books of the bible really don't have any respect or regard for the word of God. One fable is as good as another, as far as they're concerned. That's at least extremely boring and at worst utterly disrespectful.
As I listen to one teaching the word of God but doesnt believe the doctrine I must take all their teachings and disregard them. The Bible warns you will be held to a higher standard therefore you should not teach his word. You teach worldly things to each their own deceiving is people is wrong just come out and claim your disbelief.
You can tell me off as you wish but it will be a pity because truth is often what people dont like and its tricky for me to type this out on a tablet.. This video is not at all true. "The book of Henoch", has no religious views at all. As soon as you hear or read angels, you're already going down the wrong road. It has been made available by a man called Billy Meier, who lives in Switzerland and with help from the Plejaren (a very advanced ET human race), rewrote this book. I have it, as do many others...sincere in learning the universal truth and its contents would stun you. In fact, this book is so important, it has been made a free downloadable version. I'm sure you're a good man and only want to show people the right way...so do I...download it and just read any page, as see you what you think.
You do not know scripture. Jews have always kept a genealogy of their bloodline. The Bible is inspired by GOD. It is true and important. It’s not to be taken in darkness.
He is lying, because character with this much education must know there are clear marks of water in all historical dash archaeological sites that are under 5 000 feet of altitude above ocean level.
How csn you say itvwas not writtrn by Enoch? Were you there when Enoch was living? No! You were not there.Enoch wrote his books before the flood of Noah. That is what was writen. You so cslled theologens claim knowlege you cannot know. You would be more believable if you believed the scriptures.
Because it's the basis of the Western European theologies of Heaven and Hell... noting that many modifications to that happen with later theologians and integrations of other theological works. Many "Received Traditions" in the Catholic and Orthodox Communions are grounded in the apocrypha. And, for as much as it differs, the Restorationist theology is well grounded in both Catholic and Protestant approaches to many doctrinal elements which were derived from it.
@@ob2249 No, you're counting as nonsense that which has shaped theology of Christians for the last 1900 years or so. If you think the historical sources of Christianity are nmonesense, might I sugest you troll elsewhere?
There is evidence for the historical existence of pre flood biblical people like Seth or Sheit in Hebrew.For instance Egyptian Pharoah's of great antiquity ,say going to 3000 or 2500 BCE. The common naming of Pharoah's with the name Seth/Sheit/Seti ,there were a great sucession of ancient Pharoah's named Seth.Names are given often from respect and we name our children after those we respect and that is why as a Chistian culture we use Biblical names or so many named Muhammed in the Islamic world.I believe a greatly respected figure in ancient times was Seth and that is why so many Pharoah's carry that name!
@@diverguy3556 Robert Gentry, Fingerprints of Creation, peer reviewed research. But most of your so-called scientists are liars in the pay of the Satanists, or haven't you noticed?
Well, Jesus definitely disagree with you on many things in the OLD TESTAMENT, I will believe Jesus rarher than you, including the young earth because, for example just as God created the first animals full grown, so did he created the universe in its mature form. and no more took billions of years to created the cosmos anymore than He took several days to make a cow- from embryo to its full grown form. the genesis text intimates that he made animals in their perfected full grown forms for afterwards God shouted what He had accomplised was very good. Although I myself am Jewish I can say that christiainity is an evidence basted faith in all its beauty, for the saints of God look at what God did for the Jews in the Old Testament and they put their faith on the Old Testament records of God who always keeps His promises.
I’m so sorry Mr Hamer and Centre Place for some of the hateful comments left in these videos. I’m so happy these have continued in spite of them. I found solace here during the beginning of the pandemic, and so grateful for the education and community
Say what you want about Pastor Hamer but he is an encyclopedia of biblical texts. I enjoy his presentations and how patient he is with some of the questions he is asked, or the audience members who have to interject with their little tidbits. I may not agree with everything he says or believes yet I respect his study and knowledge.
That was very nice of you to say I just wanted to tell you that. May The Lord bless you.
Very true words..
God bless you. God will bless all those who bless and curse all those who curse... it's a pity. Everybody knows so much they know nothing - if what it is that they 'know' causes hate and division. If that is what they 'know'... then the Lord doesn't 'know' them.
To 'know' is to produce the 'fruits of the kind' - the fruit one produces is indication of the 'spirit' they are of.
Thanks Johnny... you are appreciated greatly. Shalom.
Thanks to the supporters, Centre Place and Pastor Hamer for bringing these talks to the public.
U R so smart and open up topics on such a stunning, alternative way! I'm glad 2 just have found Ur channel! Stay tuned...
Church Slavonic is still in use as the liturgical language in a number of Orthodox churches and a number of Catholic Eastern Rite Churches.
Like all SUNday (vernal day of the SUN-the sun worship demon god they serve) "Sunday", they are nothing but a whore daughter of the abomination in Rome papal occult masonic demon driven system of ERRORS. Like 100% of the SUNday churches world wide ARE under hasatan's sway.
Called Manichaeism theology, Westminster confession pf 1639 & TULIP/OSAS rom the spawn of the devil Augustus of HIPPO and his cohort Constantine whole both perverted the Apostle words. Main anything that came from them "another gospel another Jesus" which again is 100% of the SUNday occult church brands and label. I Having escaped that witchcraft sorcery network have countless times proved it.
Weekly lectures are the best. Thanks
I was an atheist for decades, I stopped believing as a hubristic teenager. I would never believe you if you had told me I would watch biblical lectures for entertainment. My eyes are open now though.
I love how much is written about and attributed to this character. Even things as far out there as him being Thoth and builder of the great pyramid. I’m seriously considering naming my first son Enoch because it is such a cool name with a cool history.
Better than naming him after your wife's favorite Soap Opera fantasy man lol
@@clevertaco328 You are a clever taco! 🍻
Enoch, like most of the biblical patriarchy is a solar myth made obvious by his lifespan of 365 years.
I Listen all night long to CJ PLOGUE READ ENOCH!!!
It’s incredibly beautiful and her voice is perfect!!!
This videos are really quite good. Thank you
Another great lecture thanks John + Leandro. 😊
Agreed😃
Dear Mr. Hammer, your talks on Bible are so inspiring that make me fallen in love with the history & the development of Christianity & other Abrahamic religions! Do you have some suggestion on book & study for independent researchers that want to delve deep into the subjects? Any references or book list would be so helpful to me!
Wish you to be healthy & happy,
Cheer!
Thank you so much. Your explanation is awesome. Step by step goi g through this.❤
SO excited to see a new lecture.
@10:26 - Shem is Noah's son. Seth is Adam's son.
Just thought I'd clarify. Thank you for all of these wonderful videos!
Well that is really going to solve the fact I am going to die like the rest of us and none of us know what happens afterwards, and its scary as heck. Who cares whose son and grandson of some person 12,000 years ago was? they are all dead too now, and their lives dont change ours, nor do they teach us anyrthing that can save us from our certain demise. One can waste one's life listening to biblical stories and fables, but they do not explain the existential condition or dilemma, 'to be' involves ageing and death, and is not a satisfactory solution, but to 'not be' is also not a satisfactory solution, therefore, neither choice is nice. And thats all we got, so we are pretty much doomed, except for the unrealistic hope that some benevolent being made a special room for the babies to play in called heaven, but also made a hot oven for the kids when they are naughty. Humans believe some of the most ridiculous things, that only humans could think up. This universe never thinks up such nonsensical stuff. The laws of physics make more sense than telling me angels came down from heaven and spoke to ancients, but stopped when we invented cameras! Because they didnt want us to prove they exist, as we are required to believe with blind faith.. yeah yeah.
@@AjarnSpencer science rejects the Old Earth hypothesis, apart from the agenda driven institute employed puppet types. It should be obvious even from our exponentially decaying high altitude fields around our planet that Earth is only several thousand years old. Listening to the liar who made this video will not help you.
@@AjarnSpencerin this life we mostly all get to choose right and wrong.
No so for some who's parents force them into evil practices, but most of us get to choose what we believe.
"The bible is an integrated message system from OUTSIDE of our time domain " is how Chuck Missler describes God's word.
That choice of belief is the testing ground to the last page where God lays down HIS requirements, so we can't say we weren't warned.
Bible. Revelation 22:13-20
[13]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
[14]Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
[15]For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
[16]I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
[17]And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
[18]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
[19]And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
[20]He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Personally I'll take the verse 14 choice.
Verse 15 may be the default for failure to read God's word but its still a choice and being "without"
Meaning outside of eternal life is not a wise choice for anyone.
@@AjarnSpencero sorry for your nearsightedness. You do not fear the LORD, that is you do not hold HIM in AWE, sadly. GOD LOVES US…amazing since most do not reciprocate. I hope you read the Ten Commandments and an explanation of all that those words mean. They are a guide to the society that GOD WILLS to happen. FREEWILL allows us to reject HIM. Sadly😢. I hope someday the HOLY SPIRIT WILL tap your heart and soul. The TRUTH IS out there. Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIGHT.
May GOD BLESS YOU, NOW🙏❤️🙏
All other patriarchs say they had sons and daughters and lived so many years and they died. Enoch is the only one doesn’t say he died.
Wow I love to hear you read and I understood what you are saying. . .. absolutely awesome
Very interesting. Thank you John.
Always great content !!!
Love this channel!!!
The interesting thing about the phrase "in his days" associated with peleg, is that "his days" overlaps pretty much very other patriarch on your visual chart showing the overlaps of their lives. so, whatever happened in his days, happened in their days as well. either way, interesting lecture, thanks for all of these lectures, you do a great work.
All the nations were divided with their own languages so they would have the opportunity to remain in the LORD without interference from worldly concepts of men corrupted by delusional LIES from Belial.
The lineage of PELEG's fifth generation after the flood guarded against the LIES OF BELIAL.
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Really interesting!
47:23 - someone asks during the Q & A about the 3rd heaven... when was 2 Corithians written? Was it 14 years after Stephen was stoned?
The King's may not be human but actually nations. This is the way certain parts of ancient Chinese history were written
It would be helpful to mention the fact that 2 Enoch has long also had a place in Jewish Merkavah mysticism, and that it probably originated in a Jewish context. Enoch (Metatron) functioning as a mediational figure for Jews, similar to Jesus' mediational function.
Fascinating that the Bogomils (Christian gnostic group) heavily used 2 Enoch. My understanding is that 2 Enoch is also an important text in Merkavah (Jewish) mysticism and the Kabbalah. Raises the question: Did Bogomils (& other chr. gnostics) practice aspects of Merkavah mysticism?
Bogomils were not Christian gnostic group. And they didn't practice mysticism. They practiced something way more different. They didn't like Christian Church at all. That's why majority converted to Islam when ottomans breached in to Kingdom of Bosnia in 14/15th century. Majority of bogomils as well as the high chair of bogomils leader called "Djed" ( granpa ) were in central parts of today's Bosnia.
@@greenlightning6971 According to wikipedia: "Bogomilism was a Christian neo-Gnostic sect. The Bogomils called for a return to what they considered to be early spiritual teaching, rejecting the ecclesiastical hierarchy."
@@greenlightning6971 Apparently, your definition of "Christianity" is narrower than mine. As I understand it, many gnostic Christians were among the most devout. I believe that a person can reject the Church and still be a devout Christian.
@@robinstevenson6690 ,I actually was born and still live in the city which was the "capitol" of bogomils. I can read "glagoljica" ( old language of theirs ) ,there are hundreds of stone writings around the city and archeological sites here. Just recently ( last year ) tombs have been found with remains of at least 60 individuals with jewelery,pots, personal belongings and many more. Some 2 kilometers from my location. Wikipedia is full of shit.
@@robinstevenson6690 ,btw,they were more close to Zoroastrianism then to Christianity.
Taylor Marshall has an amazing and fun video on the Book of Enoch. Just my opinion ❤
Thank you so much for these lectures! Learning loads 😊 do you have a suggestion for a good translation of any of the books of Enoch for someone who isn't scholarly?
I read Uriel's Machine ages ago and became interested in Enoch, but my attempts to read the source material failed due to a confusing translation. I've been thinking about returning to the ideas in Uriel's Machine with more information. (though not from a perspective of trusting the authors, anymore......).
A few weeks ago untill now , I read book of enoch in english.
Thank you
Crazy stuff! Interesting talk.
Nice St. Augustine quote at 28:00
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I can’t see Enoch 1 on this channel 🤷🏻♀️
Nice job
You have to know about Enoch being cannon in the Ethiopic Bible, and it’s preservation there. Why did you not include this piece? My translation was derived from this discovery and was created around 1900.
I personally found the practical answers to so many foundational questions in human development in areas like mining and smelting as well as musical instruments and so much more in the book/books of Enoch.I refuse to believe that several thousand years later the validity of removing them from scriptures made any relevant points regarding the hosts of heaven not being able to have sex with humans as the angels often appeared in human form and those who went to lots house house were threatened with sodomy and left as angelic men with might and power.Somehow as time moved on the church found itself almost incapable of correcting past errors in the various councils as to become caught in Lucifer's half lies and defended them by burning and martyring some of the saints.I hate that I live in a time where few churches believe that Genesis is a myth with a moral story and not simply the truth FATHER GOD OUR CREATOR handed to all to understand the mystery of GOD AND man and our continued failure to love our Creator and the effects of our selfish desires and pride that has led us to believe science is our hope not GOD
So..., you will find that of the 10 possible, you will ONLY find this in 1 through 3, though one was found in 10 and earlier, in 6 and 5. Only recently, it was found in 4, I mean 7 and 9, but yes, also in 4 and 8, from my understanding.
Wow!
How can anyone say for certain that to God a day is 1000 years and believe it to be truth? We are talking about creation before the Sun and Moon are created. Who knows how long a day is during this point in time. Explanations from biblical scholars are obviously mistaken. God is in eternity where time has no meaning or use. He is neither in the past, present or the future but always is and can interject at anytime or not at all.
Very well put, and so true. Our brains can’t grasp god for one bit.
2 Peter 3:8
@@jms7726 Whose year and Day is Peter referring too? You can look at this 2 different way's. It could be that one of man's day's to God is like a 1000 years to God. Meaning, each day going backwards to the birth of Adam is 1000 years each. Now count all the days back to Adam. Multiply that by 1000. That would be within a few thousand years of the Makings of The Heavens and The Earth. It will be a long, long time ago.
Who's day? When God made the Earth. There was only one day. God's day. That makes our "Day" 1 thousand years. I know that the Sun and Earth were not made 6 days ago. I was at work. So it took God 6 of our days to make The Heavens and the Earth. So it took 6000 years to complete. He rested on the 7th day. So, 7000 years total. God made Adam on the 6th day. Now count the days to present and multiply by 1000. We know Adam was born before the flood. Which scientist believe happened 9600 BC. Well, we know Noah was born before the flood. It's a little more complicated than we thought. That why I don't think it's one of God's days equals a thousand years to us. It's one of our days is 1000 years to God. We can't forget he is in eternity. No time passes.
Here it is: If flood happened 9600 BC that's 9600 + 2024 = 11624 years x 365 days = 4242760 days x 1000 = 4.2 billion years ago
Scientific age of the Earth is 4.5 billion +/- 50 million years. I'd say this is close enough for the girls we go with.
Paradise being in the 3rd heaven originates from the Lives of Adam and Eve, another apocrypha book, I believe, which dates prior to both Paul & 2nd Enoch.
25:00 - I think I'm related to Augustine. People do not realize the troubles that they bring upon themselves. In Revelation, the 'prideful' grab the mocking and "where is your God" comments as some source of 'external' evil, when instead the 'question' will be answered by the facts that God is misrepresented, leaves us no responsibility, and will even fly out of the sky to come and save those who are not worthy to be claimed not saved. There is certainly a 'rod' for these situations, but my heart is broken for those who claim to 'see' and yet are 'blind'.
And I'll add that we do NOT serve a God of 'confusion'. Confusion wrecked the tower of Babel, because we choose to make our 'own' name. Confusion caused many enemies to turn on themselves. And as Jesus said, "Let the 'dead' bury the 'dead', as a house divided against itself will 'not' stand - thus, 'be still, and 'I' will fight 'for' you - that you need not fight.'
Johnny? Can we talk? I see something that needs to be 'seen'. Shalom.
Good presentation! Many interesting facts I hadn't heard before. I tried making it through this book almost 30 years ago, but lost interest when I started reading about the snow storehouses.
I think you are reaching with the analogy of Daniel interpreting Nebuchadnezzar's dream being an example of it all going downhill. The book may have been written later than the history it was describing, but it wasn't describing The Golden Head as being the first (or greatest) kingdom ever historically, just the one that they were currently in (in that story). I don't think there is any obvious clue that would lead one to believe that the author of Daniel believes themself to be living in the time of the ten toes of iron and clay.
Also, there is no mention of the succession from gold to silver, to bronze, as being a gradation of wisdom, morality, or even technology of those kingdoms. Usually in the more ancient traditions of the 'It's all downhill' from some divine original high point, there is some mention of a return to that state. The only real difference, to me, is whether one viewpoint suggests that everything becomes a utopia in one instant, like a return of/appearance of 'fill in the blank', or the other view that change appearing to go from high to low is just myopic bc it then changes back gradually to ascent in a sinewave like motion, such as the Greek great year/cycle, or the Vedic Yugas.
The fact that this comment section is full of poor people that have fallen for conspiratorial delusions like young earth or flat earth is actually a bit scary.
The only possible model is the flat square earth as described in Enoch1
I’m really trying hard to not say anything about the bottom suit jacket button being buttoned. Really trying hard.
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Maybe it’s a 3 button and can’t see the third... but seriously, how silly we humans are to make clothes with 2 buttons but forbid the use of both 😂
You stated Jesus is not mentioned. The phrase “Son of man” is in Enoch. The OT and NT references from Daniel 7:13, psalm 8:4. Rev 1:13, 14:14, are relevant. Jesus himself, in mark 2:10 calls himself this phrase. The that Mark retells a narrative learned secondhand, that Christ himself called himself this is very significant. Why did u leave this out? Your knowledge is vast. Thank you for answering my three questions if possible. I thank u for your time and contribution. It’s been very interesting.
The book of Enoch is essentially true. The bad angels have and still run the show.
Nah, just oligarchs who make money off your ancient beliefs.
@@yahweh2787 i used to think so too. All roads connect in Fatima. That was not secret nazi tech. God is real.
And explains how men came to possess knowledge that is explained nowhere else in scriptures
Angels, aliens, and ATF agents
The Book of Enoch was alluded to by Yeshua of Netzaret and quoted by Yehudah/Jude. Shabbat Shalom!!! Shalom in Yeshua Mashiyach of Netzaret!!! Baruch Haba B'Shem YeHoVaH!!! Thanks for sharing!!!🤗
Ahhh I love balance
pseudopigraphia: fancy historian word for fanfiction ;) I actually wrote my dissertation on fanfiction, and I wish I had had this talk as a source then: even more examples of how derivative fiction was a common historical/ancient genre!!
If it isn't the writings of Enoch then who wrote it?
Someone else later 🤷🏻♂️🤣
How do you think books and stories are written? Please don’t tell me; You really think this is a real history event, written by a Guy living 600 years, walking with „God“, going to heaven and back and he is the only guy who wrote it, about 6000 years ago? 😂
I am Bulgarian. And we were no barbarians. According to history. „Thracians“ were smithing gold from about 5000 BC, what is normally called the „bronze age“ 😅
And we invented a language spoken from more people than English.
We were feared mercenaries and probably the ones that got beaten often, call us barbaric 🤷🏻♂️
BUT: we don’t hold a nation for 1400 years with barbarous behavior. Instead we have the oldest traditions in Europe. Roman soldiers adapted to our culture ✌🏼
6:30 Shem is Adam's son? In Christianity, Shem is the son of Noah. Is the Torah really that different than the Old Testament?
You are so awesome dude...😂😂😅
The summerian kings list is off. they went by days so 43,000yrs is actually 43,000 days
32:37 - God took him. I will say this... I, or the me that was 'me' no longer exists - orher than for the 'dust' that is my 'body'. Spirit wise... I have been 'taken'.
There are (2) pillars that guide us... cloud by day and fire by night. When we walk in the light (day) we follow the cloud and we 'meet' with the Lord, same as Jesus, one with because we only seek to serve His will. When we walk in darkness, we follow a pillar of fire, stumbling and even sometimes 'falling into the fire', as the New Testament states. And are refined, and are saved as eacaping from a fire. These are the pillars of heaven, and related to the statue, except time has (2) paths... one that ascends 'up' the statue, and the other 'down' it. The iron is the rod and the clay is what is formed by it - God's Law. This is why Jesus said you will see messengers ascending AND descending upon the 'son of man'.
Why were they not terribly inbreed? Why did we loose so many years of life expectancy? We were doing so well!
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Enoch 1 is in the dead sea scrolls so very important to not focus on racist "Ethiopian" talk.
purely; the ethiopean version is complete
We do not find the solution/answer to the riddle in the past. We will find it in the future. If they find Arthur C. Clarke's a space oddyssey books in 3000 years under a tomb they will make a religious text out of it. Whoever said that we did not write fiction back in those days? As man learned to write, he already knew fact and fiction, so he will have written both. Not that i am not an avid digger of the books of Enoch, I am, as i read Ezekiel at age 15 and that already flipped me, because i had already had a close encounter of a certain kind as a child,and what Ezekiel states, is accurate to my experience to some degree. It was also clear that the appearance of whatever it was, is connected with us, not some alien from another planet. UFOs are some kind of phenomena connected with our human mind or spirit.. They are connected to us
UFO's are and were probably made in Atlantis, one of the 2 still existing continents they hide for us on our flat square earth as described in Enoch1. They stole 12 hours from the Atlantic Ocean and added it to the Pac cific.
Kings before the great flood would've been Giants
Of the 3 Enochs books only the first Enoch was written by Enoch in Noah’s lineage whereas the other 2 books were written by Enoch of Cain’s lineage - see Gary Wayne
I don't know that Gary Wayne can be trusted on this. He brings together a bunch of interesting ideas but is far too caught up in racist conspiracy theories to synthesize them properly.
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"365 & 1/4" --> leap year.
Second and Third Enoch have been proven to be written by scholars and scribes pushing their interpretation of first Enoch. Only first Enoch was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Second and Third Enoch were deemed heresy.
Well I am a born again son of GOD who found nothing heretical in the books no matter what was decided as much of the councils debates focused on spirits mating with humans in spite of many scriptures that say it clearly that were never excluded or denounced.Just because the council members were learned believers they disagreed on many things that are clearly stated and Godly in their content in showing Satan's influence over one third of the hosts of heaven and their destruction upon humanity as they set themselves up in every culture to be worshipped as gods
@@glennfivestarkevindodge5654 the whole one third of angels rebelling against God is not in the Bible it is only in the Heretical works of Enoch and as such is heresy. If you believe Satan waged war against God and led one third of the Angels you believe in Heresy and Superstition.
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10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11 They triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.”
13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring-those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.
Revelations is not about a past fall of Satan but a future battle where he will be cast down when the second coming has been fulfilled. And you are equating the stars with angels when it clearly keeps them separate as two different things. The 1,260 days is the same number of years until the Messiah after the Witnesses. Once again future events to John not past.
@@angelique544 and the stars falling from the sky is one of the signs that the return of Christ the Glory of God has come.
Revelations 6:13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.
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Why do you switch between Enik and Enoch
There's a general consensus among "scholars" that 2nd Enoch was written within the past 1500 years or so. Documenting the story of a man who purportedly lived 5000 years ago. In a world where mankind was created some 7000 years ago.
I don't watch "the news" on tell lie vision for truth either.
I should also add that what people fail to understand in regards to "hell" (niflheim is the Norse underworld and it's ruled by the goddess hel which is where the word originated from) or Hades in Greek, the duat in Egypt etc etc and this is this. . When they refer to underworld they aren't referring to that fire and brimstone judeo Christian nonsense (that's from Dante) or some subterranean realm.. like all biblical stories it's an allegory and the big secret here is that THIS is the underworld.. we just assume that this is life and what comes next is death but the ancients believed the opposite.. This is the underworld this is death... You're already in hell my friends
Your discussion of the longevity problems of Genesis identifies one of the (many) problems with the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic Text, contrary to all the advertising literature, is NOT the original Hebrew. The Masoretic Text was "translated" in the tenth century AD by a people with an agenda to unseat the King from His throne. The length of years specified in the Masoretic Text are there to obscure the time of the birth of Jesus.
The Septuagint Old Testament doesn't suffer from this bias and so the dates specified there are 100 years (on average) shorter than those same ages in the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic Text has several "difficulties" and it's not all dates and times - length of years. But they are almost exclusively problems in prophetic writings about the Messiah. Very odd how that happens.
The New Testament, when citing or quoting the Old Testament, almost always cites the Greek OT (the LXX). Jesus fulfilled prophecies that you can easily find in the LXX but strangely, not so readily found in the Masoretic Text. Funny how that happens.
i find it amusing that you are talking about biblical books and you use bce and ce instead of bc and ad. when, exactly, did bce and ce occur? this makes no sense.
How anybody could believe all this stuff is beyond me, it requires a suspension reason.
Enoch 1, the only fully survived was often attributed as the Ethiopic in Ge'ez. But believed it was first written in Hebrew or Greek or Latin? Sounds like oxymoron , how about the book was originally written by Geez then translated to others ? Hmm? How about the person Enoch/Henok was from earliest Hebrew decedents who were colored people 7th generation from Adam , the 1st person hence the oldest dwellers were in modern day Ethiopia hence making him ancient Afro Middle Easter person. So get this, Geez is said to be the first language of Adam and eve thought by Angeles, making it heavenly language
Did i go far or make sense supported by true historical data. Btw i am Ethiopian and believe me i am not biased except telling what's my findings so far and love the book mentioned and know the 2nd, 3rd books of Enoch. Why is so much fuzz on the authenticity of the book as God inspired while we get quotes from that book in the new testament?
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Infidel means someone who has multi gods. Christians and Jews and Muslims are NOT Infidels.
Enoch was a solar myth which is obvious from his lifespan of 365 years
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"This is not a study of Enoch but an attempt to impose your ideas to undermine the Word of God. You have the audacity to link Enoch to Bogomils and Gnosticism? Their teachings are so far from the Enochian teachings. Do not listen to this scoffer!"
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Ten heavens being the ten planets of the brown dwarf star that is the other star in OUR dual binary star system!!
The evidence for a 9th planet of sufficient size to be called one under the current rules is weak, and will remain so for the forseable future, as space telescopes with sufficient sensitivity lack enough field of view to actually find it by anything other than luck and/or prayers being answered.
Sure, it would clean up some perceived anomalous dwarf planet orbits...
And for the record, I think the dwarf planet distinction is insanity by the astronomers who insisted on it. I much prefer the planetologist definition: Self rounding via gravitational strength and in solar orbit. Sure, that means >30 planets (Including Ceres, Vesta, Pluto, Haumea, Orcus, Quaoar...)
Oh, why are these great books not part of the bible? BECAUSE THEY BREAK CANON!
Melchizedek has an origin story? Okay, there goes the Book of Hebrews, which tells us specifically that he had "neither beginning of days nor end of life but made like unto the Son of God" (Hebrews 7:3)
People who think it's a good idea to just throw all this garbage in with the other books of the bible really don't have any respect or regard for the word of God. One fable is as good as another, as far as they're concerned. That's at least extremely boring and at worst utterly disrespectful.
Second Eee-nick?
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Since when are books of fiction considered bible fact?!
Beginning of the lecture:
It's pronounced Ee-nock.
After 20 minutes Enick Enick Enick... *Thinks* Ee-nock...
Well that was the 2nd book of Enick....
I thought I heard him too
CHRIST HAS ALREADY RETURNED AND HIS NEW NAME IS BAHA'U'LLAH. HIS FAITH IS CALLED THE BAHAI FAITH. REVELATION 3:12..."MY NEW NAME".
As I listen to one teaching the word of God but doesnt believe the doctrine I must take all their teachings and disregard them. The Bible warns you will be held to a higher standard therefore you should not teach his word. You teach worldly things to each their own deceiving is people is wrong just come out and claim your disbelief.
Get to the Enoch Christ!!!
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Whose the tyranny teaching?
Is it the enoch of Cain or the enoch of Seth?
Could this be anymore dry. I tried listening.
You can tell me off as you wish but it will be a pity because truth is often what people dont like and its tricky for me to type this out on a tablet.. This video is not at all true. "The book of Henoch", has no religious views at all. As soon as you hear or read angels, you're already going down the wrong road.
It has been made available by a man called Billy Meier, who lives in Switzerland and with help from the Plejaren (a very advanced ET human race), rewrote this book. I have it, as do many others...sincere in learning the universal truth and its contents would stun you. In fact, this book is so important, it has been made a free downloadable version.
I'm sure you're a good man and only want to show people the right way...so do I...download it and just read any page, as see you what you think.
You do not know scripture. Jews have always kept a genealogy of their bloodline.
The Bible is inspired by GOD. It is true and important. It’s not to be taken in darkness.
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He is lying, because character with this much education must know there are clear marks of water in all historical dash archaeological sites that are under 5 000 feet of altitude above ocean level.
How csn you say itvwas not writtrn by Enoch? Were you there when Enoch was living? No! You were not there.Enoch wrote his books before the flood of Noah. That is what was writen. You so cslled theologens claim knowlege you cannot know. You would be more believable if you believed the scriptures.
No, however you theists hold ancient writings above historical/archaeological truths. Crazy.
Why waste 1.5 hours with a about about an apocryphical book which contains even more nonsense than the rest of the Bible?
Because it's the basis of the Western European theologies of Heaven and Hell... noting that many modifications to that happen with later theologians and integrations of other theological works. Many "Received Traditions" in the Catholic and Orthodox Communions are grounded in the apocrypha. And, for as much as it differs, the Restorationist theology is well grounded in both Catholic and Protestant approaches to many doctrinal elements which were derived from it.
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"why study m0re n0nsense ?"
its a vaIid questi0n y0u faiIed t0 answer
@@WilliamHostman No wonder theology is nonsense. Well grounded on stupid books.
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@@ob2249 No, you're counting as nonsense that which has shaped theology of Christians for the last 1900 years or so. If you think the historical sources of Christianity are nmonesense, might I sugest you troll elsewhere?
There is evidence for the historical existence of pre flood biblical people like Seth or Sheit in Hebrew.For instance Egyptian Pharoah's of great antiquity ,say going to 3000 or 2500 BCE.
The common naming of Pharoah's with the name Seth/Sheit/Seti ,there were a great sucession of ancient Pharoah's named Seth.Names are given often from respect and we name our children after those we respect and that is why as a Chistian culture we use Biblical names or so many named Muhammed in the Islamic world.I believe a greatly respected figure in ancient times was Seth and that is why so many Pharoah's carry that name!
Where's the evidence then? Peer reviewed research in reputable journals will suffice.
@@diverguy3556 Robert Gentry, Fingerprints of Creation, peer reviewed research. But most of your so-called scientists are liars in the pay of the Satanists, or haven't you noticed?
Well, Jesus definitely disagree with you on many things in the OLD TESTAMENT, I will believe Jesus rarher than you, including the young earth because, for example just as God created the first animals full grown, so did he created the universe in its mature form. and no more took billions of years to created the cosmos anymore than He took several days to make a cow- from embryo to its full grown form.
the genesis text intimates that he made animals in their perfected full grown forms for afterwards God shouted what He had accomplised was very good.
Although I myself am Jewish I can say that christiainity is an evidence basted faith in all its beauty, for the saints of God look at what God did for the Jews in the Old Testament and they put their faith on the Old Testament records of God who always keeps His promises.
it is a provable fact that there was a flood of the earth approx 11.500 years ago the younger dryus period.