STIHL 500i Takes On a 661 MAGNUM [Rapid HEXA Chains] VS White Oak
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- Today we run a 500i up agains a 661 with the new Stihl Rapid HEXA chains on each saw. If you have additional knowledge of these HEXA chains and how they work please leave a comment below!
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Much slower between cuts with 500i , but 661 mag still faster and heavier. I used to run an 0.66 and it was a beast too
I have a ripsaw worked 462 that I am working on videos for and it is a wild saw, I couldn’t imagine the 661! Great stuff my friend. New subscriber.
Thank you for checking out my little channel! Let me know when you drop your video and I’ll definitely give it a watch. Thanks for subscribing.
Good work
I have 500i and I love it!! 🙋🇷🇴
Thank you for watching.
You said it best that RIPSAW 661 rips!
Ha! Thanks for your comment friend. That thing is just a little too fun. 😉
I have a Stihl 500i and the new Hexa chain too. What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD. 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
Thanks for checking out the video!
@@evergreenorganics You are most certainly welcome. 😊
I think the raker, or depth Guage, is offset, so it has a clear cut path to travel, making less friction. the cutting tooth gives a little wider cut, allow more freedom , smoother faster cut
Hey I never thought of that. I think you are on to something. Thanks for checking out my little channel. Take care James.
Agreed
I use a 661 now and after watching this I’m going to send it for porting and a new muffler this week…..cheers chaps.
Very cool. Thanks for watching!
Nice saws, I love my 500i with the bark box. But that’s a way cooler stormy cromer. My waxed cotton is the best hunting hat I own! lol
The chips are small because the chain is a 'narrow kerf' design. Chips are smaller but there are more of them per minute due to higher retained chain speed from less drag.
White oak will most definitely produce a smaller chip than a soft wood. Big part of it depends on raker heights as well. I can get decent size white oak chips out of my square ground but I have been square filing for a long time. Typically factory chain no matter what kind is gonna produce those small chips in white oak. Typically the harder the wood the smaller the chip.
Interesting about the rakers being offset, I’m going to look at my chains and see how different the HEXA is.
I run round file, square, and HEXA. The round file dulls the quickest by far! I’m really impressed by the HEXA and will probably be converting most of our square, all the round chisel is already converted.
You like it better than square ground eh? The thing about the hexa that really threw me off were the small chips. It cut great but I am not used to chips that look like that.
@@evergreenorganics I do like HEXA better than square. The square cuts a little faster but takes longer to sharpen. Hex is easy and quick to sharpen and is good at holding an edge. It also cuts incredibly smooth, even full skip, it cuts a little smoother than square. The pull or grabby/hungry is very low with good chips.
The reason why the chips were small is because of the raker height. I’ve found that 0.040” is a good height for the rakers on HEXA. WCS has a great raker depth gauge.
Both beastly saws but wow that 660 is freakin wolfin!
That saw was ported by @RIPSAW, she’s a ripper for sure.
Hexa is best chain for non sand wood, Good review.
If you can got same bar and chain it is perfect.
Thanks for checking out my little video.
I got the Egan Uni Filter kit upgrade for my 500i, no cutting anything required. Together with the Egan Straight Shot it's a new machine.
That Egan Straight Shot sure does make you remember to wear ear plugs.
@@evergreenorganics Darn right lol. To state the obvious you should always have ear/ eye protection in any case.
The raker on the hexagon ground chain is far offset to be more in line with the point, itself. It gives the best relationship to it to prevent a miss in height when adjusting. If it were straight like a round grind you would not hold the true relationship. IMHO.
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.
Bravo maestrooo
how do you sharpen your chains? i use the file they gave me with my poulan but they never get as sharp as new again. also you think the stihl chains are better?
First, thank you for checking out my video. If you are a homeowner who uses a chainsaw a couple times per year then I don’t believe the type of chain you have will make any significant difference. If you cut firewood for your heat or to sell or do professional chainsaw work then yes I would only recommend Stihl Pro and Husqvarna XP chainsaws and professional chains etc. I use a hand file for my chains but after 7-8 times filing them I will take them to a chainsaw grinder and get them back to factory angles. If you’re having trouble keeping your chain sharp firstly you should sharpen your chain EVERY time you put fuel in your saw. Second if hand filing is not working for you, your local power center will sharpen your chains for around $8 per chain. Remember running a saw with a dull chain is the best way to ruin it as it causes overheating in the engine. I hope this was somewhat helpful and I suppose I should make a video on this topic. Thanks for commenting.
where did you guys get those nice protective bottoms for the saws?
Ordered from eBay. A few guys make them on there. Worth it.
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Yeah baby
Hi the orange plastic cover under tank where can i find it?thanks advance
That’s actually a powder coated aluminum tank protector. I get them from guys that make them on eBay. They’re around $30. You can get them bare aluminum which is what I have on my blackout 661 or basically any color you want.
Awesomeness! Where’d you get your protection plate for the 500i?
eBay, it was like $30
@@evergreenorganics understood, thank you!
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@@evergreenorganics I just looked that channel up! Thank you for that!
Where did you get the skid plate for the 500i?
Ebay
I’m not sure about that hex I understand it’s hard wood but it didn’t seem to self feed well, I’d like to see a back to back with round ground if you’ve put anything up.
I’m not really sold on the hex chains. I’m still a fan of round ground hand filed chains over these.
Rakers were way to high. I’ve found 38-40 does great with the HEXA, 50 starts getting grabby and has a lot more pull. Thirty five and under requires dogs and the chips are large grain sawdust.
@@evergreenorganicsSet the rakers to 40 and try it.
Where’d you get the hexa chain?
Local Stihl dealership in Wisconsin. If you know your chain size you can get them pretty easily online too.
The sprocket covers are metal? Are those custom? I have the square cut chain also, had a triangular file laying around, honestly i was using a brand new square cut chain on a 36 inch bar on a stihl ms91, only cutting beetle kill dry standing dead spruce, nothing crazy big i would big that big of a bar for, but still, i was super impressed with the chain. Never heard about it, bright it in to the local stihl , they didn't know anything about it
You're the only channel I've seen address the hexa chain and square cut chain
Was looking for the right file i guess triangle is correct
I noticed the triangle file i had was also filing the depth Guage down when i was sharpening. I brought it to a professional sharpener, he didn't know anything about it, he round ground it. Enjoy the channel, i would love to get some of those extras you have for your saw!
So on pro model Stihl saws the clutch covers are metal. On the farm and homeowner saws, they are plastic. The hexa chain has its own file and yes a square ground chain is a triangular file. You also square hand file in the opposite direction. So from the front of the tooth towards the back. This is so you don’t file the raker at the same time. Thanks for checking out my video! I’ll try to get some more content out soon.
You might want to bore cut the Ash after you do your front cut, to reduce the chance of a barber chair.
Depends on the lean, but thank you for thinking of our safety friend.
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Thanks for watching.
Different size bar that's not fair either
It wasn’t really meant to be an exact race between them. I mean the 661 is 11cc bigger anyway. Thanks for watching though! I’ll try to keep posting videos when I can about these saws.
One all of those chainsaws are ported and that's not fair
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What does ported mean ?
@@user-yy3om6he2mit means the cylinder timing has been changed, the exhaust has been opened up, transfers have been smoothed, and the intake has been modified. This creates additional power in the saw.
I have a 500t
Do you mean 500i?
These new Hexa chains cut awesome! I just don't like the file gimmick.
Hey where you from there Jimbus? I see a Northwoods scene on your page for your background. You a midwesterner?
@@evergreenorganics I actually live in Indiana but I spent my summers growing up in Northern Wisconsin, my grandparents had property in Stone Lake (just south of Hayward.) Haven't been up there in 10 years I really miss it! That picture btw is Sand Lake.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 Stone Lake! Wow small world. Our family cottage is in Spooner. Our farm is in Northeast Wi. Northern Wi sure is a magical place.
@@evergreenorganics WOW small world!! I love Spooner! It's a dream of mine to own property up there again some day. There's no finer thing in this world than pulling up to your own pier at sunset with a couple walleye.
Good day m8 how are you finding the wcs clutch cover for the 661
Hi there, the WCS clutch cover for the 661 does not have captive bar nuts which for me personally makes it not worth buying. The 261, 362, 462, and 500i WCS clutch covers all have the captive bar nuts so I would recommend it only for those saws.
@@evergreenorganics I could work around it, as it made no difference a couple years ago? How's the rubber compound soft and maluable or firm and sturdy
It’s actually a polyurethane material and not rubber surprisingly. Pretty stiff.
My money's on the 500 red
So this was a stock 500i but I’ve heard ported 500i’s are absolute monsters. I’d like to get my hands on one someday.
Stihl 500i , the chainsaw that your boyfriend gets you for your birthday.
Thanks for watching.
That square ground chain isn’t even right, I’m not sure if that is factory or hand filed but the angle doesn’t even match the corner. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was factory. A lot of times factory is worse than what you can do by hand
That was a factory chain fresh out of the box.
No need to be seesawing the saw like that when cutting your cookies
Does that bother you?
@@evergreenorganics You can hear the saws rpm drop and it adds unnecessary variables to your timed test.
Well, this test didn't tell much of anything. Too much variables. With 500i U cut slower. Cuts should be timed one cookie at time. And, the 661 was not stock. But, thanks anyways.
Thanks for watching
Your test fake. You made big pauses between cuts with ms 500, and with 600 you stepped on it. Complete BS.
It’s also a ported 661 and a stock 500i. I’m not a god damn scientist but thanks for watching.
My 500i IS PORTED & it has CRAZY POWER!👍👍
They sure do wake up with porting.