The Price Of Happiness: Did My Toyota Celica GT-Four Cost More To Fix Than A Ferrari!?
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In today's video, I talk about my 1996 Toyota Celica GT-Four, and the costs of bringing this car to the condition I wanted. It has been a long road, but now the end is in sight - so time to tally up the bills!
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Chapter Listing
0:00 Introduction
2:48 Why I Wanted A GT Four
5:03 First Problems
10:27 The Work Begins
11:53 In and Out Of Love Again
13:14 The Big Job
18:43 Parting Gift
20:47 The Numbers
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At that price it's definitely not a flip. It's a keeper.
What would be your top 3 ideal daily drivers if money was no object?
i´m glad you saved the GT4! 😊
You would have saved tons if you had done those things by your self.. Btw it's an St-205, not just gt four
@@gringostarr69 no, no I would not
Not many people would've been willing to pay that amount for the repairs and upgrades and would've just got rid. Even if they did have means to do it.
I'm glad that you did and that this channel helped you to do that.
That car was definitely worth repairing.
Absolutely agree!!
We need more people like Jay.
because they have zero ability for abstract thought. Considering the cost of any new car available today that is; 2x heavier - 2x more complicated and unfixable - 2x less feel - 2x less visibility - and 2 or often 3x MORE expensive than what he paid to do all of that - it makes far more sense to MAKE an old car new and end up with a "brand new" old car that is actually fun and simple than to fork out for a crappy modern couch on wheels that is more complex than the lunar space station and is completely throwaway. Even in the case of a brand new GR corolla or yaris, it is larping around as a celica GT four while being half the car. proof of this is in the modification scene where they are reaching limits sooner trying to do more with less (especially at the regulatory level). It hides behind modern rigidity as an excuse. But you pay the new hot hatch premium and dealer markup for it. and 20 years later, it will be far harder to keep all those computers running.
If you just spend a GR yaris or GR corolla's amount of money into an older car, you will essentially get to drive a "brand new" old car that they simply cannot make anymore. and you will have more than one up on the competition in the realm of experiences and simplicity.
This video is exactly what I needed. I'm currently going through the same situation with my 1990 R32 GT-R. I love it so much but it always needs work, and it just seems so far until it can be where I want it to be. Seeing you go through the same emotions and stresses yet still loving the car in the end truly helped me to not be so discouraged with my cars journey. Thank you for posting this one, it means more than you know. I think I'll keep mine now :)
Well you have no choice. The prices have gone so high on your car. You can buy a small island ! No money in the bank has earned so much interest then the fixing value of the car you own.
Learn how to do things yourself. Watch you tube and join every Facebook forum. Loads of information. Then private message the top forum guys that know what they are talking about for even better advice. You got this....or sell it and go sulk on a small Island ,as you fish for your dinner !
Welcome to 90s and early 2000s japanese sports cars mate.
My Evo 7 has lots of stuff to fix and it has been well maintained and after I fix all of that I start thinking and more and more things are coming up.
You never finish fixing them but the way they drive, the sensations and feelings.... No other modern performance car will give you that. Not below six figures anyway.
Try to learn to enjoy it while you maintain and fix it.
Still have it?
Even looking at 20 grand, this is my one and only dream car. Ive been saving for a couple years on a down payment but shit always comes up. Someday though... I just hope it doesn't keep inflating faster than i can save.
Keeping a piece of motorsport history alive has got to be worth something.
At least you've now got a car unquestionably cooler than any Ferrari though
Exactly. Not many car's can outclass a Ferrari, but these sure do. I'd happily have one over a lot of supercars.
Great, honest video. It’s been so fun to watch your journey, James. You really are living a lot of our dreams! And you always make it fun, funny and insightful.
Half expected James to segue into an ad for Established Titles... Every TH-camr is pushing that scam at the moment.
In some ways reminds me of the ole “Name a Star” scam that was popular a few years back…
That’s Lord James to you!
@The Lone Ninja 82 Yep it’s not what it claims to be, it’s more of a gag gift than they let on
@@peugeoting Na.. Not so much. The original "exposed" video was really.. really.. poorly researched clickbait. Given how many youtubers have jumped on this "omg scam" train without doing any investigation... they will have lost a lot of income and thus donations. The original guy is gona get sued into oblivion.
Fact Fiend has done a video on it debunking every one of his "exposed" points. They actually do real research.
It's a novelty gift, always has been, some cash goes to reforestation. Thats what they said they were selling, and what they sold.
@The Lone Ninja 82 I'd call it a fairly light scam. Especially compared to other shit some youtubers have been pushing in recent years. Basically you go to their website, drop a couple of bucks, buy like 1 square foot of land in Scotland and they claim doing that makes you eligible to call yourself a lord. Problem is that that's complete bollocks and since that became known, they came under fire a bit.
So it's not that you get completely ripped off and get nothing in return, it's just not what they make it out to be. Which is a mildly scummy thing to do.
This right here captures ST205 ownership perfectly! I don’t know what it is about these cars but they never get boring no matter how much they push you to the brink of your patience and sanity!
You get used to the power so you push and push til you hit the limit or break it, then it isn’t a simple remap it’s a full ECU change, then it’s fuelling then you blow the ring lands and it’s forged engine time.
I added up all my receipts 3/4 years back. I was at £26,000 since then my turbo blew, I went for an upgraded hybrid turbo, new downpipe and manifold and a full top to bottom service… I am north of £30k now but it’s 100% worth it, I can’t go anywhere without people giving the car a reaction be that good or bad and it’s been with me 11 years…
SOOO when you break it down to monthly costs it’s the same cost to PCP a new mid spec Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost! 😂
Worth every penny. Love Celica's. Had a few
Well done for keeping one of my dreams cara on the road. It’s absolutely stunning from every angle. Also loving the brutal honesty about what you’ve been thru with it. It’s genuinely one of three in my dream garage. Can’t wait for updates and a drive video.
So glad you've stuck with J, and yes I agree with you if it's a little dirty it's because it's being loved 💙☮️💜
Go and enjoy her
You're talking about the car right?
I'm sorry mate, my mind read this rather ambiguously and I don't know either what in god's name is wrong with me...
@@torgejh9189 you can think what you like lol
@@chrisprice4658 All good mate 👌
Sometimes I just think I'm way to light-hearted for youtube. Everybody on here is usually ripping each other a new one over absolutely nothing at all, I just don't like to be rude to people, neither in person nor through the guise of anonymity on the internet. Just feels wrong to me.
I gotta be honest, I'd posted that and not read it until you mentioned....face meets hand....at which point you just gotta roll with it lol 💜☮️💙🤣😂🤣
Congratulations you are the most relatable, car reviewer.
ALL of the others seem to have lost the ability to ask the same questions that normal people ask themselves, when looking at vehicles from a nostalgic perspective or from a perspective of a possible future purchase.
This includes not just in the U.K but worldwide. Just my opinion.
Keep on keeping it real buddy.😀
Well done for sticking at it - both the car and TH-cam, I’m sure you’ve had lots of moments on that journey too. Both worth it - congratulations 🥰🙏
Thankyou Will, it has been a ride but a worthy one!
I love storytime with JayEmm. Even if they are the occasional horror story. Happy Thanksgiving from the states. And happy holidays to you, your family, your cat, and all your cars.
I can't think of many cars that have aged so well, I think they look even better now than "back in the day"
Awesome video. Thank you for having great pacing. Looking forward to future videos with this car. Loving this fleet update format. Keep up the good work.
Thanks James, great video, & good to see this back on the channel. Looking forward to your next adventure with it! 🙏🙏
Love the honesty of your video. Cheers
Congrats! That is an awesome Celica and you are doing it up right. Enjoy the fruits of your labor. Thanks for sharing.
The average price of good quality example of these has increased to more than the car cost to buy and repair in less than 12 months! You are still winning, this car will last for decades!
The mechanical feel of the oem drive train and gearbox is next level, you feel connected to the road, never really discussed it is up there with classic 911's maybe even superior feel.
Yeeees! Been waiting for an update on this beauty!
Great to see it back and your channel is doing so well to afford the fixes. please keep up the great work and vids on the gt4. Never got there with mine and now drive a UK st202 gt.
Famous last word "no matter what it does, you still love it". Congratulations on your journey and your BIG HEART/WALLET pucker up, she's a beauty. Enjoy the drive and remember its worth it when your driving down the road and all of that goes away ENJOY. Cheers for sharing Romano
Walking to school when I was younger, someone had one of these on their drive. Was the highlight of my day getting to see it going to and from each day.
Nice update James, 👍. Looks so much better on the White wheels, white on white doesn't always work but it does on a GT4.
Go and enjoy it, don't count the money up... I'd hate to think how much I've spent on my Nova Sting project... car cost £2k... at a guess to date I've probably spent £10k on parts and resto work. Still need to do the interior!
Lovely looking car, to be sure! Plus it has the bonus of bringing waves of Sega Rally nostalgia. I'd never noticed just how good looking they were before but yours is a genuinely stunning car. It was definitely well worth your investment, it was a car you love and I can't imagine that there's many of these still about (especially so here in the UK!)
or GT4
Worth every penny, things you did to the car. Gave it a new life! I've spent that much on my GRY before it even arrived :)
I'm really pleased for you James. Yes, those numbers are big, but it's your dream car. Hope you have many happy years driving her.
In fact, despite congrats for his . . . fortitude? . . . it seems to be JayEmm’s legions of fans who have enabled him to retain ownership of this dog’s breakfast of a car. Reminds me of an Alcoholics’ Anonymous session, where everyone cheers on the failure they so desperately fear themselves to be.
To be fair a good one will cost you well over £20k anyway so I think you haven't overpaid for what you have.
This video was awesome, can't beat a 90s manual jappa for engagement, emotion, performance dynamics, feel all of it. Got an 89 RS Legacy JDM spec forged stroker etc etc. Can't stop.
Wow, well done for sticking with it.
Fabulous.
One of my childhood favorites which continued to now. Can't imagine why can't they make such cars anymore.
Congradulations for reincarnating it. I wish I have the resources to do the same.
Brings back memories of my 96 mr2 gt turbo import (Toyota never sold them here). Same engine other than the charge cooler. 245hp stock. Had mine about 300hp. Was a lot of fun and massive induction noise right by the passengers ear. After I got mine 2 friends also bought them after I took them out for rides.
Lovely looking GT4. I think the total is to be expected.I never intended to spend what I did on my car projects, but if you want to do it properly and you love the car then it really isn't about the money at all
Those are pennies in Ferrari world (Testarossa owner here), but the car is as cool to look at and drive. Congrats ... I want one too!
My very first car was Toyota Celica GT4, JDM Spec, in red with the gunmetal 3 spoke wheels, amazing car!!!! Got it for Xmas in 1997, oh sorry forgot to mention it was made by Tamiya 😀
That car is not just a car, it's an icon, a legend.... It also has more presence than most supercars (costing a lot more than 19k). Big well done for sticking with it, in todays crazy market surely you could name yr price now it's sorted. But I'd sure as hell keep her.
I love those cars too, although I would be delighted with any of them, turbo or not, as long as it wasn't rusty. I drove a new one in 82 and was hooked!
So happy our presenter is into the eclectic and not just the usual exotics. That's the mark of a true enthusiast.
Much respect for doing all this work on a much loved legend; another one on the road for us all to enjoy. Have to say though for someone of lesser means this would be he nightmare to end all nightmares! The definition of good money after bad 🍋
In the way that prices are going, it will soon eclipse the amount spent. An iconic car to be proud of.
Immaculate restoration, at least it will continue to appreciate throughout the years especially as I imagine most examples are not well maintained and taken care of
Great journey you have come with the car and you have spent money to save it and can now enjoy the car ,i am pleased you never gave up on it still a great car .
You did great by this car!! Ive ALWAYS wanted 1 of these 😍 They still fly well under the radar $$$ compared to Mark IV Supra, FD RX7, GTRs etc
Congrats!! Beautiful beautiful car… been waiting for your review of this car for years 😂👍👍
I used to own an imported MR2 Turbo James... Great engine! My first job was at Dover Toyota when I was 18 and I drove all the Uk Toyotas of the time.. Also wonderful motors.
This car is the reason i follow u :) im 2yrs into mine...next summer Rodney!
Finally some new St205 content. Hope you get tune sorted. Once i finish 3 Evora projects then onto my St205 WRC full restoration which has been sitting 18yrs in US.
Excellent work James. The response at the rally show must have been satisfying. "sell-LEE-ca", love it👍
I have a 5th gen and I love it more than anything. The celica is truly one of the best cars of all time!
Love the car, love the vids, love the fact your were so open and honest about it
Well done Jay, you really powered through. I have a 430bhp MR2 ( on OG channel) I have a Link G4 Storm, pops and bangs happen naturally with mine after a WOT.
Its a endless shopping list from here. Now you have a Link, your futureproofing can include a Coilpack conversion using 1zz system (gen 7 140hp or MR-S) OEM HT leads are becoming rare and expensive. Mine has been running like this for 4 years with no issues
For all your efforts you have what is probably the most desirable specimen of an iconic car available to the person with an average income.
Thanks for your channel.
You sir, are a true legend❤
Too kind! Thankyou Geiri
Your most epic car and awesome video. Well narrated and put together.
I have a Fujitsubo on my DC5. Extra grunt without droning and being stupidly loud. Brilliant exhausts! Great video
Great video. Reminds me so much of my previous and current 90's Jap metal. If you love it you just don't care if it lets you down now and then.
Congratulations!! You did it fantastic!. Thanks for this nice moment in the electric paranoia time. 👍🏻
Worth every penny! Loved this video, had me smiling all the way through. Also was that Jethro towards the end?!
I believe he was quoting Hagrid.
@@paul1978g Oooh, thank you!
I certainly feel that same way about my Alfa Romeo 159 TBI.
With just 2 examples in the country in Sportswagon body, it's something special that deserves the maintenance.
Less than 2 years in and its cost more than the purchase price, but now it's a faster and more reliable car than what it was and with all the big ticket items done, it should be relatively smooth sailing from here.
Fairplay for stumping up the cash to get this rally legend back in a good shape. I wish i had the disposable income to buy an interesting car that needs a bit of TLC. I saw a MK1 Ford Focus ST170 for sale in my local area and I immediately found your Focus edge review. Needless to say your video confirmed that's I need one in my life!
To be honest James I thought it was going to be a lot more! But well done for preserving a bit of motoring history 😀
Do you know what you've done here, James? Not only have you saved this car from certain death i.e. ending in up someone's hands who could've cheeped out on the work and killed it, but by keeping this car alive you've also made sure that the market for Celica GT-Fours doesn't go crazy as fewer and fewer good examples remain in good shape. That is not only doing justice to this car but also a bit of public service! And I really appreciate that!
GT4 WRC edition with a 5SGTE build with a G4X ECU owner here.
About the pops and bangs, I don't think that is possible even with a setup like mine capable of 500bhp I have tried and I know some people that tried too .
I'm totally in love with the car, and i think that the line is just iconic, but it's strange because for example here in Switzerland but in Italy too, is the most stealth car that I have owned, no one's seems to care about it ahahah.
I really like the fact that the UK community loves these because they are such great cars
Very strange that it can't be done. Surely by squirting a little bit of fuel and having no spark will cause it to hit the hot exhaust manifold and see some nice bit of flames/pop...
Yeah, the guy who mapped mine has done loads but for some reason the G4X doesn't want to do it
Fascinating video - really enjoyed this 👍
I had an ST185 GT-Four with a boost controller on it set to 13psi, standard computer. It worked perfectly and was used for rallysprints.
My parts bill was massive, but my friend and I fitted everything ourselves. Gearbox, clutch, front hub, struts all around, brakes, etc.
The car was very rough, but still running. Turbo blowing oil, paint peeling all over, but it went very hard.
Mine had real exhaust "bang" on full-boost gear shifts because it had a blow-off valve and was using the factory flappy air-flow meter.
Let's be honest all these older cars are fantastic. Glad you got her fix and back on the road. Beauty looking car.
Always had a soft spot for a Celica GT4 Turbo, never had one...yet.
Keep looking out for a nice one, until then I'll enjoy watching you enjoy yours James.
James it looks absolutely beautiful 😍 ❤ great video thanks 😊
Another great video. I have been watching your videos for the last couple of years and have enjoyed all of them. Your research on car is very good. Would love it if you did a video on one of my cars.
That car is spectacularly beautiful, thank you JayEmm.
Had a red GT-Four from new back in the ealy 90's. Loved it. Kept it for 4 years and 80k miles. Still have the original brochure
Long time listener, first time commenter. Mega video, one of if not my all-time favourite - I've been through remarkably similar journeys with an Evo V, blobeye Impreza STI and now DS3 Racing... Financially, it never makes sense, but it gets to a point where you're rooting for the hapless underdog to get over their foibles and recapture their former glory. You now have a properly sorted Celica GT4 which is a very special car the likes manufacturers won't make again. If you ever consider putting her up for sale, count me in as an interested party...!!
Thanks Paul, no plans to sell for a while!
To be fair it looks awesome now, and a properly sorted one has got to be pushing towards the £20k's value sometimes soon. Enjoy it I say. It's only money!
Absolutely love your videos. Keep up the great work! You've definitely inspired me to purchase a weekend car.
I'd save your money mate. We're heading into the biggest period of hyperinflation in living memory.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 Wouldn't that mean its better to spend our money on assets then if fiat becomes worthless?
Your videos are coming n general really informative and good.
Loverly motor James very rare these days, The late Jaguar XJS in the background looks nice , great video as always James
Man, feels so sad to hear about the negatives bits of your experience, especially when you lust behind a car so much so that it turns out to be a nightmare. Kudos to your energy & guts to invest so much, nonetheless, and go forward with your dream! Amazing work pal! Hopefully you & your Celica enjoy only positive moments from now on! 🙌
It is actually looking really nice now! Looking forward to the next part.
Yeah, just before they ruined it with that wedgy & mostly anemic final model design...
This might have been the last generation that it was OK for MEN to drive ;)
Well done mate.
As I started watching I remembered that there's a Celica specialist just up the road from me...M.K! 👍
Really love these cars. The front end is absolutely class looking. Got a lap around Mondello years ago in a friends one. Quite a good bit of fun. 👍👍
Thanks for sharing, the wisdom that I take from this is that it is better to save up and take it to a specialist than to try and fix it on the “cheap”. I had an 88 GT and always toyed with the idea of replacing it with a GT-Four or Supra Turbo but in the end bought a new MR2 doh! Your example is looking great now and it sounds as though you are finally getting to enjoy it. Although you have spent a fair bit on it, I doubt that dropping 20k on anything else would provide you with more enjoyment so in fact, it might actually be a bargain. Look forward to seeing future mods.
My old boss at a Toyota breakers yard imported a GT4 same as yours from Japan and it was a Road reg Carlos Sianz Factory paint rep with standard interior except for Recaros,and a bolt in half cage, it has Lsds ,straight cut box ,HD everything lotta TRD ,blitz,HKS parts,18 inch Tarmac enkies on HKS coil overs ,Motech ,it spun 290 hp at 12 pds boost at the hubs x 4 with 310 ft pds at 7500 on hub dyno, landed and complied certed rego plates and on the road was 10 k NZD just before covid hit ,the thing was fast pulling every gear, more of road gearing 3rd gear just off the 180 kph speedo then 4th 7500 then 5th ? ,bars and braces underneath it ,great car
She's a keeper Jay. Worth every cent mate.
Great stuff. I picked up a 1993 Mazda RX7. I feel all of your pain and I'm just getting started with this car. 😂
its nice to see someone who has taste in all kinds of cars.
If I were a TH-cam content creator… I’d want to be like JayEmm. Great content, cars, and stories every video. And really good/quirky taste in enthusiast cars. 👍👍
It's a beauty James worth it I reckon. I have spent 3k on my 1995 MR2 over the last year so I'm with you all the way. Mine is also white 040.
Completely get where you're coming from. Although not in the same league as a GT4, I bought a cheapo phase 1 Saab 9-5 Estate in early 2021. It cost me £1000, since then I've probably spent about £2500 just on making it run and drive properly. I love it!!
My experience with my st205 is very similar to yours. Pretty much bought the car in somewhat same shape as yours. I ended up doing a full forged rebuild, all SS, all wheel bearings, transmission rebuilt,, all calipers rebuilt and am waiting for my ct20b to be rebuilt. Before all of that, I dailyed it for a full year and it stayed reliable enough with minor maintenance items. Next up is ECU and paint... dreading those 2 things if I'm honest
Not every decision in relation to cars is purely a financial & financial one. It’s James’s call. For the record I, too, applaud his decisions.
Enjoyed this vid
Enjoy your drive. Great videos!
Looks great!
Love this video. Needs more ads though, Jay. 🤣😉 Seriously though, I just traded up from my mk III Clio RS to a '13 BRZ. There's already boxes of parts stacking up in my room.
worth! hope u keep it forever J
I feel like the job of people wealthy enough to do these projects is to buy every single lemon and do full restoration on every one of them cause that's what's gonna save the old cars from going extinct lol. One day there might be a market for full resto cars like this ex-lemon GT-Four
Refreshing to see an honest roundup of project costs, the internet seems to be filled with people bragging about their savvy purchases and money saving genius, I suppose people are embarrased if they think they've overspent? Nothing embarrasing about spending money on your passion.
Great car and well done bringing it back to life. I had one imported from Japan which needed front suspension bushes. I was stunned at £300 odd per strut because you couldn't buy just a £10 bush. The cost of refurbishing one side of the front suspension was £1,000 which I thought was huge amount. I also replaced all the wheels for the price of a single Toyota wheel. However the car was awesomely capable even without the modifications you did. I did 100,000 miles and loved every one of them.