+Dennis Boyd lel the sith are war criminals from day 1 who take whatever they want by force through intimidation or murder. they also commit genocide. but sure, the jedi are the bad guys.
I haven't watched this yet, but I really hope Obi-Wan (played by Ewan MCGregor) is a Force Ghost in Episode 8! Ewan's portrayal of a younger Obi-Wan was a saving grace of the Prequels!!
I hope not cause I'm still getting over the dumb vader force ghost change.. it was Alec guiness so I hope they age Ewan to look like him if they do. Also change vader back to chubby white bald vader.
Panny Bibiris It's not actually. It makes more sense for his spectre to appear as he was before he turned to the dark side and before he was disfigured.
I've recently realized just how much I love this show and how much I look forward to it every week and thats due in large part to the always awesome Darth Harloff. Love the Council!
YES please to having Obi Wan returning in Episode VIII! But out of the Force Ghosts, Anakin is the most important one to the story. It's his family that are in the story, it's his grandson who has fallen to the dark side and is obsessed with his grandfather. It's Anakin's legacy of destroying the Sith and bringing balance to the force that Episodes VII-IX are exploring the results and consequences of. These 9 Star Wars Episodes are about Anakin and his family, he's probably the most important character in Star Wars. PLEASE Rian Johnson, bring us Anakin Skywalker, and Obi Wan. Imagine Anakin talking to Luke or even Leia.
I couldn't agree with you more. I do really want an Obi-Wan Force Ghost in Episode 8 and/or 9, but the story itself is so calling for The Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker to show up. A confrontation between Kylo Ren/Ben Solo & the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker needs to happen.
I agree the character who is in all 6 movies and is the single most important character needs to return because this is the battle of his 2 legacies his legacy as Vader and his one as Anakin its his grandson and possibly his granddaughter fighting with the balance of the galaxy i just dont believe that he just dissapears and we never hear from him again
+Karen Catizone yeah I agree, but I think it would be cooler if it happened in nine like Ani shows up and tells Kylo/ben to overthrow Snoke or something and have Ben/Kylo return home with his tail in between his legs or end up with a dramatic sacrifice.
+David James We dont want Hayden Christiansen. Horrible actor and terrible memories of him as Anakin. Anakin's story is DONE and he has merged with the Force. I want LUKE all over Ep 8 and NO anakin.
Nothing you said makes any sense. Han doesn't make or break a movie. Rogue one is a prequel, so it wouldn't have anything to do with the force awakens.
Ryan Meaker Well no shit, but I think if you're putting a new actor who is going to be younger. You probably shouldn't place him in right before the original movie when he was played by Harrison in his 30's.
The Narrator ah my bad, read your comment fast and assumed you were just piss poor at English lmao. I do see your point, however I feel it could be pulled off well if they cast it right (similar to how I feel about a new young indiana Jones).
I 100% agree with John when he said it was a missed opportunity for Disney to not have a Rouge One commercial during the Superbowl. I also don't think it's going to hurt the movie over all, but I do think it was something Disney should have taken advantage of.
Imagine in Episode 8, about half way through Luke is reflecting on what happened to his nephew Kylo. He is staring over the cliff of the island onto the ocean with tears in his eyes. He closes his eyes and hears a voice "Luke..." He opens his eyes and slowly turns around to Obi-Wan's ghost. He says "Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope." Yoda appears and says "no there is another, a new hope... The girl. Train her Luke."
I don't really understand how a Han Solo appearance in Rogue One makes sense considering they are probably going with a actor that is 20-22 years old, and there is no way Rogue One takes place more than weeks or even days before the start of Episode 4. Han Solo is not 20-22 year old in episode 4. I honestly wish they weren't doing a Han Solo movie
+59254356 Yep. And he hasn't won for Best Song. His first Academy Award was for Fiddler on the Roof in 1971 for Best Original Song Score and Adaptation, which has been known by many names over the years and was last given out in 1984, and is essentially a category for writing music for musicals.
That no disintegrations question was a great one, I hope they explain it. In the old lucas arts company, they had the jedi knight series and in that game (which was a confluence of third person and first person gaming) theres a gun you can use called the 'Tenloss Disruptor Rifle' , and when fully charged and fired, it disintegrates your target the same way fire burns a paper.. but in a split second after you fire them. So it wouldn't be the first time we see a gun do that in all of star wars, but it would be awesome to see in the film
The thing I liked about the space whales episode is that all of the crew, besides Ezra thought the whales were just pests. Ezra subconsciously knew, through the Force, that they were actually sentient beings. That changes everything. And creatures that can travel through hyperspace?! That's a cool addition to the canon.
Christian stated in movie news that the ROGUE ONE flick is probably not sequel bound and is a one off movie only. He is thinking of it as a story with a plot so close to the events immediately leading to EP 4. However, think beyond that and retrieval of the Death Star plans and the Rebellion cast of this movie moves onto the events before, during and after EMPIRE and JEDI. Of course if this movie is a huge hit, which it will almost assuredly will be, ROGUE ONE will be ROGUE 2 and ROGUE 3 with plots on snowy Hoth or the woods of Endor with the Rebels. Take all the events of the original series from a new perspective and new characters with some familiar and you have an amazing new Star Wars trilogy if done correctly.
man that picture of old timer mcgregor looks amazing, why is disney wasting time on a han solo film that is so dependent on recasting one of the most iconic roles ever instead of taking advantage of a character people love played by an actor who really really wants to play him again and can actually pull off both a younger version of himself and an older version of himself so perfectly?
Too many star wars movies too fast?...no frickin way. As far as I'm concerned they can release one a month and I'll watch every one as long as they can keep the quality up.
John mentioned Liam Neeson's voice being in AOTC, alluding to him not appearing again... Suggesting it mean's McGregor isn't a certainty to appear in 8. But Liam Neeson WAS supposed to be in III, but he had an accident not long before he was supposed to be Ghost Qui-Gon; near the end of III; so they instead had Yods mention Qui-Gon instead.
+Malik Tarrant there would always be a few perma-side bars too: 1-white slavers 2- $4 billion dollar pay day 3-Kathleen Kennedy is a genius 3-Who's Rey's Daddy 4-The Campea dismiss of the week 5 - Campea "look, this a good move" of the week.....
I hope if Obi Wan does come back, they borrow a line from the Legends (EU). I can't footnote it exactly, but Luke was lamenting the fact that he was the last of the Jedi, and Obi wan's Ghost said "Not the last of the Old Luke, But the First of the New." That line has always stuck with me. It would play into any remaining reluctance Luke still had for getting back in the game with training Rey. The past is the past, learn from it, and move forward.
Couldn't agree more with all the early posts on here! This is indeed the best part about Thursdays! Now to watch the full episode before giving some thoughts on what's discussed. Ahh, I always end up wanting more. I also think having some kind of Force Ghost is a logical choice, Yoda/Obi Wan would be a good fit for obvious reasons. Anakin Force Ghost Interaction would be the one and only way for me to see any kind of logical redemption for Kylo Ren.
I think twilight of the apprentice means three things, the death of ahsoka, ezra beginning to fall to the dark, and foreshadowing for kanan's coming demise
I think vader said that because of what happened to Luke's aunt and uncle. When have you ever seen anyone burned to a crisp like that before?? Storm Troopers do not do that. But it would be cool to explain this story through Rouge One. Guys great show btw. Don't ever stop.
I'm thinking that probably earned her some respect among the community because news travels fast in this galaxy. Plus you also need to realize that any kind of docking maneuver with the ship that is almost twice your size isn't exactly the easiest thing to do either. Plus not only that but she kept the Thai fighters from pursuing her which is something else that is not exactly the easiest thing to do. So I would have to say that that makes her a little bit more then a mechanic in my Book. And I think it's also possible to believe that chewy felt the same way. Also I think another reason why chewy liked her so much was because she could actually understand him. And she did it by using the force. And I think that because he has witnessed Luke's force abilities in the past I think that sort of made him feel like he was reconnecting with something that he lost.
I really want to watch this right now...but I'm at work and must wait until I'm home with a beer (or two) and some form of hot food in my hand. See you guys in three and a half hours!
I think Lucasfilm needs to focus more on a Obi Wan movie right now. Ewan wants it, many fans want it. It would definitely make the connection between the Prequels, original trilogy, and now the new trilogy.
Here's why I think it's entirely possible that Benicio Del Toro is Ezra: You don't have to reveal his name. In the Star Wars universe, bad guys use pseudonyms pretty much all the time. We as Rebels fans don't need to know at the time that Episode 8 comes out that he is Ezra. They could just not reveal it at all in the trilogy. Assuming the last season of Rebels comes out around the same time as Episode 9, I think it would be super cool for Rebels fans if the show becomes a backstory for Del Toro's character without anyone even knowing it. Like, assume he has something to do with the formation of the Knights of Ren. That's how he's introduced in Episode 8. His name in the movie is _____ Ren. Then as the show comes to a close, in those last few episodes, we start to see how Ezra forms the Knights, how he goes full dark side, and it becomes more and more apparent that he was Del Toro's character the whole time. It's brilliant. And would further prove how much care and forethought and overall respect for this new canon Disney has. It has the advantage of making it so you don't need to watch Rebels to get everything out of the movie, but if you do watch the show you get that bonus backstory. Kind of like how we get so much more out of Anakin by watching Clone Wars. You guys have been blowing this off this whole time for a good reason. Obviously you don't introduce Del Toro's character as Ezra Bridger. THAT would be really stupid because that name is meaningless to 99% of the people who will watch the movie. But you've been missing the idea of introducing him as a mysterious dark force user that doesn't need any deep explanation, and THEN, a couple years later you mould Rebels into this neat backstory. Am I crazy here? Side note. Has anyone considered that Sabine is of clan Wren, there's a slight tease that Ezra and Sabine might have some relationship down the line, and that it's entirely possible that if he takes her name it's a possible origin for the name of the Knights of Ren?
+James Murray Well, I did read it all. I like it and I mostly agree. Also it's funny, the council thinks "Twilight of the Apprentice" means the death of Ahsoka. But it could also EASILY mean the fall of Ezra, to the darkside as well. (Why else bring in Maul?)
Just attempted to go see The Revenant today in mid western Canada... ended up seeing Star Wars again. It was a large cinema showing in only 2 screens in a medium-large theatre (20 screens) but still it was totally packed. Don't see many movies with legs like that... not since Avatar, Titanic.
My question is if and only if Boba is in Rogue One, who's gonna do his voice? The guy that did the clone voices and played Jango or someone else. Would be a sizable check for him
Regarding last twitter question about Vader and Boba Fett interaction over the "no disintegration" line. [Boba disintegrated a Rebel that had key information] Vader: [force choking Boba while lifting him off the ground] You were instructed they were no good to me dead ;) [Vader releases him] Vader: You're fortunate I still have use for you.
The Han Solo movie was always scheduled for a May 2018 release date. They announced that when they announced the film in general. It was announced here back in July: www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film
I read a rumored plotline for Episode VIII that said the film would open up with Finn and Poe traveling somewhere in search of Lando at Leia's request since the Resistance needs all the help it can get. They find Lando, who has been going under another name, with his daughter and he agrees to help them. I don't believe this rumor at all since later on it was said that Snoke is Palpatine which is ridiculous, but even so I can see Lando being introduced in that way and I actually hope that small part of the rumor is true.
I'm really hoping we get one scene with Anakin (Vader/Hayden Christensen hybrid like in the Force Awakens concept art) Obi-Wan, Yoda, Luke and Rey. What a beautiful way to tie together all three of the trilogies
Man! you guys took a question on the next animated star wars series and no one touched on the possibility of doing a Luke trains Ben Solo before his turn to the darkside. Which I think would be so wicked cool!! In any case great episode this week!
I really think you might want to look into del toro playing Ezra especially with Sabines clan being ren maybe he and maul started the Knights after Sabines death
Billy Dee Williams was 43 in Empire Strikes Back so a 14 year old Lando would be around the era between Episode 1 and 2. I don’t know if that’s the age and era I want to see Lando.
Regarding disintegration: have Boba Fett in Rogue One, and have him "disintegrate" some people, but have their bodies look like the charred remains of the Lars family. Then also release a comic that shows Boba hanging out with Jabba in Mos Eisley and getting a call from Vader to find some droids at the Lars homestead. Boom, canonising fan theories.
Ready Player One is a love letter to the 70s and 80s geek culture. Stars Wars fans should check out Armada, Cline's second novel, which is a love letter more directly to sci-fi fantasy films and games. Star Wars, Star Trek, Battle Star Galatica, and The Last Starfighter are just a few films and series Armada pays homage too, but with it's own creative take on this genre. Cline really is a great author, and both books are home runs in my opinion. His characters are realistic, and his plots develop naturally, and it all flows together to create a great story that I think most Star Wars fans would enjoy. It would be nice if Disney could get Cline to write a Star Wars novel even! This guy is somebody to keep your eye on.
The Rebels series is excellent with a group of new characters in the Star Wars Universe, and I would like to see the focus of the anthology movies on new stories (like Rogue One) rather than young versions of old characters, i.e. Han Solo, Lando, and Obi Wan.
Wayne Pygram was Tarkin for the final moment of Episode 3, go watch him play Scorpius in Farscape and i believe he could play an awesome Tarkin in Rogue One
you guys (and gals) need to watch obi wan remebers. it's only about 1:20. and it's a really neat edit of obi wan talking to luke with cuts from episode 3
Obi-Wan’s ghost already reached out to Rey in the Force Awakens. It would be strange if Obi-Wan’s ghost doesn’t show up to speak to both Luke and Rey about what’s going on. Anakin and Yoda could return too.
I am so beyond glad that Simon Pegg's character Plutt got his arms ripped out of their sockets. I'm only sad that we didn't get to see it happen on screen. I would have jumped out of my seat and cheered in the cinema. It would be just desserts for a man like Pegg, who hates not only the prequels, but the people that like the prequels.
I think where Boba Fett first started working for Vader is in the Vader comic, I doubt he will appear in Rogue One. He will be big in Han Solo and his own film though so it's fine.
Once this trilogy is done, they should wait a few years (five at max.) and start a new trilogy (with anthology films in between this trilogy and the next)
If Benicio Del Toro is Ezra that would be great. Episode VIII wouldn't need to provide any backstory on the character, but if you want to know, go watch Rebels.
I bet that we'll see Doctor Strange and Rogue One teasers / trailers attached to Civil War. Disney has their hands full to put it out that early. Civil War has perfect distance here.
I like the idea of a Star Wars release in May, sticking with the "May the 4th Be With You" theme. Sure, release the trilogy films in December, but release the anthology films in May. One of the worst things about sequels is having to recast characters because the actors have aged, or whatever other reason. Minimize the time between releases and it will help to preserve the films' continuity.
Hi guys, love all the shows you guys do. My questions is this, why is it that Luke's arm is shown as robotic CGI in SWVII? I know when the trailers for SWVII all came out we were all like, there's Luke touching R2 with his hand, but wait his hand had skin on it, also at the end of SWVII when he pulls his hood over and you see his robotic hand.. He of course gets his arm cut off by Vader in Empire in that great scene, then he gets his new arm and it has human skin over it as the robot who does the surgery on him pokes him a few times and then he closes it up. Then flash forward to Return of the Jedi and he wears a black glove the entire film, he gets shot in that hand on the Han rescue with Jaba and then they close in on him fixing it later. What happened to it, did it malfunction after Jedi or did something happen when he was teaching the Knights of Ren? Do you think they will explain this? Rob
If you go from the original trilogy - Obi Wan was a force ghost for the last 2 movies - it would not make sense to only have yoda force ghost there - especially how connected Luke was to Obi Wan.
Love Jedi Council! How's this for a possible title for Ep.8 - "Star Wars Episode VIII: The Darkside Rises". And I hope they DO bring back Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen as Obi Wan and Anakin, because that would tie everything together and maybe the 2nd trilogy wasn't wat it could have been, it's still canon and should be acknowledged as such! (btw, that picture of Ewan made up to look like Alec Guiness is AMAZING!)
All I want is an Obi Wan Anthology film with Ewan Mcgregor. I'd even be up for an Anakin Anthology film if Hayden Christensen was actually a good actor. I don't know if him or Lucas was the problem but I would hope it was just Lucas that was holding back his acting.
+nrs10001 Hayden is actually a decent actor, but because of the prequels and his performance in those films I don't ever want to see Hayden as Anakin again. I would be all for an Obi-Wan stand-alone film, though. Make it a western on Tatooine and I'll be there day one!
twmcgraw303 I think it's less about Hayden though and more about me wanting Anakin to be redeemed in a film. He would be my favorite jedi just from watching the clone wars but every time I think of him I just think of the prequels. Kinda ruins his character all together.
he must be in 8 for 2 reasons: redemption and also it makes sense for the story this is his 2 legacies fighting as vader and the other as anakin i just dont believe that he just dissapeared while watching his grandson and possibly his granddaughter fighting with that fate of the galaxy at stake.
@ColliderVideos What if Boba Fett was actually the one who disintegrated Lukes aunt and uncle while searching for the droid bounty and for this reason, Vader pointed at him and said that.
I usually agree with Tiffany, but I disagree about Benicio Del Toro being "sub par" or minor in Guardians of the Galaxy. He did good as The Collector , the character himself is a galactic elder and he's one of the few with an infinity stone. Saying that I think the Oscar winning Del Torro is going to be huge in VIII and once again of great importance in a Disney film.
I hate the idea of a young, recast Han Solo. It worked for Obi-Wan but as great as Alec Guinness was, he still doesn't have the recognizability of Harrison Ford. There are so many other stories they could tell.
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Every Thursday I get a full chub when this comes on my feed.
+Dennis Boyd is it a sith or jedi chub?
Dumb Guys Talk About Smart Stuff A Sith of course. The Jedi are terrorist.
+Zero Cool my foreskin is actually on my balls so..
Zero Cool genetic malformation. When I get a chubby my balls go hard and the phallus constricts.
+Dennis Boyd lel the sith are war criminals from day 1 who take whatever they want by force through intimidation or murder. they also commit genocide. but sure, the jedi are the bad guys.
I love watching the Council every week.
Since Alec Guinness is dead he would be perfect for the part of Obi-Wan's ghost.
I haven't watched this yet, but I really hope Obi-Wan (played by Ewan MCGregor) is a Force Ghost in Episode 8! Ewan's portrayal of a younger Obi-Wan was a saving grace of the Prequels!!
I hope not cause I'm still getting over the dumb vader force ghost change.. it was Alec guiness so I hope they age Ewan to look like him if they do. Also change vader back to chubby white bald vader.
+Panny Bibiris Hayden should be the ghost if he shows up.
+Panny Bibiris hayden was better. gtfo
+Darovit why? it's as bad an alteration as that stupid song and dance in jabba palace.
Panny Bibiris It's not actually. It makes more sense for his spectre to appear as he was before he turned to the dark side and before he was disfigured.
When Jedi Council is uploaded my day/night is completely made, I feel like I'm sharing the love I have for Star Wars with you guys.
I've recently realized just how much I love this show and how much I look forward to it every week and thats due in large part to the always awesome Darth Harloff.
Love the Council!
YES please to having Obi Wan returning in Episode VIII! But out of the Force Ghosts, Anakin is the most important one to the story. It's his family that are in the story, it's his grandson who has fallen to the dark side and is obsessed with his grandfather. It's Anakin's legacy of destroying the Sith and bringing balance to the force that Episodes VII-IX are exploring the results and consequences of. These 9 Star Wars Episodes are about Anakin and his family, he's probably the most important character in Star Wars. PLEASE Rian Johnson, bring us Anakin Skywalker, and Obi Wan. Imagine Anakin talking to Luke or even Leia.
I completely agree with you
I couldn't agree with you more. I do really want an Obi-Wan Force Ghost in Episode 8 and/or 9, but the story itself is so calling for The Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker to show up. A confrontation between Kylo Ren/Ben Solo & the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker needs to happen.
I agree the character who is in all 6 movies and is the single most important character needs to return because this is the battle of his 2 legacies his legacy as Vader and his one as Anakin its his grandson and possibly his granddaughter fighting with the balance of the galaxy i just dont believe that he just dissapears and we never hear from him again
+Karen Catizone yeah I agree, but I think it would be cooler if it happened in nine like Ani shows up and tells Kylo/ben to overthrow Snoke or something and have Ben/Kylo return home with his tail in between his legs or end up with a dramatic sacrifice.
+David James We dont want Hayden Christiansen. Horrible actor and terrible memories of him as Anakin. Anakin's story is DONE and he has merged with the Force. I want LUKE all over Ep 8 and NO anakin.
I think a rogue one cameo for Han is bad based on how close that movie is to A New Hope
Agreed
Nothing you said makes any sense. Han doesn't make or break a movie. Rogue one is a prequel, so it wouldn't have anything to do with the force awakens.
Ryan Meaker
Well no shit, but I think if you're putting a new actor who is going to be younger. You probably shouldn't place him in right before the original movie when he was played by Harrison in his 30's.
The Narrator ah my bad, read your comment fast and assumed you were just piss poor at English lmao. I do see your point, however I feel it could be pulled off well if they cast it right (similar to how I feel about a new young indiana Jones).
Ryan Meaker
My comment is based on speculation. I was just assuming this Han Solo movie would be quite a few years before.
I 100% agree with John when he said it was a missed opportunity for Disney to not have a Rouge One commercial during the Superbowl. I also don't think it's going to hurt the movie over all, but I do think it was something Disney should have taken advantage of.
Hopefully we'll find out what the title of Episode VIII will be at this year's Star Wars Celebration.
Imagine in Episode 8, about half way through Luke is reflecting on what happened to his nephew Kylo. He is staring over the cliff of the island onto the ocean with tears in his eyes. He closes his eyes and hears a voice "Luke..." He opens his eyes and slowly turns around to Obi-Wan's ghost. He says "Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope." Yoda appears and says "no there is another, a new hope... The girl. Train her Luke."
thats sounds cheesy as fuck and pure fan fiction.
+ctgstudios421 Nah, this is silly.
Sounds like a Star Wars fan fic jerk off sesh
Then Anakin appears and says "I don't like sand"
Listen to the show multiple times a week, at work, while I shower, etc. keep up the great work guys.
Best part about Thursday's
I don't really understand how a Han Solo appearance in Rogue One makes sense considering they are probably going with a actor that is 20-22 years old, and there is no way Rogue One takes place more than weeks or even days before the start of Episode 4. Han Solo is not 20-22 year old in episode 4. I honestly wish they weren't doing a Han Solo movie
i want an Obiwan movie
+Kåre Hansen I think I would rather see an animated Han solo movie than a new actor taking on the roll
yea ur right..wasn't he in his early thirties by then?
Never been excited for Tano, wtf? She is one of the better characters in canon, and best thing with Vader about Rebels.
+WalkenAfterMidnight lol
Can't believe I just started watching this after the force awakens... now I have to get my Jedi coucil fix each and every week.
John Williams was nominated for 50 academy awards.
+59254356 Yep. And he hasn't won for Best Song. His first Academy Award was for Fiddler on the Roof in 1971 for Best Original Song Score and Adaptation, which has been known by many names over the years and was last given out in 1984, and is essentially a category for writing music for musicals.
That no disintegrations question was a great one, I hope they explain it. In the old lucas arts company, they had the jedi knight series and in that game (which was a confluence of third person and first person gaming) theres a gun you can use called the 'Tenloss Disruptor Rifle' , and when fully charged and fired, it disintegrates your target the same way fire burns a paper.. but in a split second after you fire them. So it wouldn't be the first time we see a gun do that in all of star wars, but it would be awesome to see in the film
You guys are awesome,i love watching collider jedi council every week...
The thing I liked about the space whales episode is that all of the crew, besides Ezra thought the whales were just pests. Ezra subconsciously knew, through the Force, that they were actually sentient beings. That changes everything. And creatures that can travel through hyperspace?! That's a cool addition to the canon.
"the richness in which this universe dwells and abides..." -JC talking about K Kennedy talking about loving the past stories of star wars.
well said
Christian stated in movie news that the ROGUE ONE flick is probably not sequel bound and is a one off movie only. He is thinking of it as a story with a plot so close to the events immediately leading to EP 4. However, think beyond that and retrieval of the Death Star plans and the Rebellion cast of this movie moves onto the events before, during and after EMPIRE and JEDI. Of course if this movie is a huge hit, which it will almost assuredly will be, ROGUE ONE will be ROGUE 2 and ROGUE 3 with plots on snowy Hoth or the woods of Endor with the Rebels. Take all the events of the original series from a new perspective and new characters with some familiar and you have an amazing new Star Wars trilogy if done correctly.
man that picture of old timer mcgregor looks amazing, why is disney wasting time on a han solo film that is so dependent on recasting one of the most iconic roles ever instead of taking advantage of a character people love played by an actor who really really wants to play him again and can actually pull off both a younger version of himself and an older version of himself so perfectly?
Too many star wars movies too fast?...no frickin way. As far as I'm concerned they can release one a month and I'll watch every one as long as they can keep the quality up.
If yoda is coming back, we all want puppet yoda right ?
Puppet with cgi added effects
fuck no prequel yoda looks AMAZING. pupet yoda looks like an old crusty bogger.
well he is dead so he needs to have some CGI
Yes.
puppet force yoda
John mentioned Liam Neeson's voice being in AOTC, alluding to him not appearing again... Suggesting it mean's McGregor isn't a certainty to appear in 8.
But Liam Neeson WAS supposed to be in III, but he had an accident not long before he was supposed to be Ghost Qui-Gon; near the end of III; so they instead had Yods mention Qui-Gon instead.
My Thursday is now complete! Thanks guys!
Could you guys make sidebars for council like heroes and movie talk??
there would be too many things to stack in those bars I think.
+Malik Tarrant there would always be a few perma-side bars too: 1-white slavers 2- $4 billion dollar pay day 3-Kathleen Kennedy is a genius 3-Who's Rey's Daddy 4-The Campea dismiss of the week 5 - Campea "look, this a good move" of the week.....
I hope if Obi Wan does come back, they borrow a line from the Legends (EU). I can't footnote it exactly, but Luke was lamenting the fact that he was the last of the Jedi, and Obi wan's Ghost said "Not the last of the Old Luke, But the First of the New."
That line has always stuck with me. It would play into any remaining reluctance Luke still had for getting back in the game with training Rey. The past is the past, learn from it, and move forward.
Couldn't agree more with all the early posts on here! This is indeed the best part about Thursdays! Now to watch the full episode before giving some thoughts on what's discussed.
Ahh, I always end up wanting more.
I also think having some kind of Force Ghost is a logical choice, Yoda/Obi Wan would be a good fit for obvious reasons. Anakin Force Ghost Interaction would be the one and only way for me to see any kind of logical redemption for Kylo Ren.
Firestorm (Franz Dremeh) on Legends of Tomorrow was in Attack the Block with John Boyega
I think twilight of the apprentice means three things, the death of ahsoka, ezra beginning to fall to the dark, and foreshadowing for kanan's coming demise
I love this show! It's my birthday and this just made my birthday amazing!!
I really wish they hadn't cut the scene of Ben sitting in the Falcon's cockpit. Feels like it could've added to the emotion of Han confronting him.
If they do a young Lando movie it should be about his maneuver at the Battle of Taanab. He mentions it before the briefing in episode VI.
I think vader said that because of what happened to Luke's aunt and uncle. When have you ever seen anyone burned to a crisp like that before?? Storm Troopers do not do that. But it would be cool to explain this story through Rouge One.
Guys great show btw. Don't ever stop.
Always a great show...I really look forward to this every week...Awesome! Love Tiffanys excited cute voice...Cracks me up!
I'm thinking that probably earned her some respect among the community because news travels fast in this galaxy. Plus you also need to realize that any kind of docking maneuver with the ship that is almost twice your size isn't exactly the easiest thing to do either. Plus not only that but she kept the Thai fighters from pursuing her which is something else that is not exactly the easiest thing to do. So I would have to say that that makes her a little bit more then a mechanic in my Book. And I think it's also possible to believe that chewy felt the same way. Also I think another reason why chewy liked her so much was because she could actually understand him. And she did it by using the force. And I think that because he has witnessed Luke's force abilities in the past I think that sort of made him feel like he was reconnecting with something that he lost.
The young Han Solo movie should be about when he meets Chewie.
I really want to watch this right now...but I'm at work and must wait until I'm home with a beer (or two) and some form of hot food in my hand. See you guys in three and a half hours!
Releasing the movies in December is the best idea. Create a new blockbuster season in winter and go up against no competition. Win, win!!!
I think Lucasfilm needs to focus more on a Obi Wan movie right now. Ewan wants it, many fans want it. It would definitely make the connection between the Prequels, original trilogy, and now the new trilogy.
Campea's backround it looks pretty badass with Han Solo
Here's why I think it's entirely possible that Benicio Del Toro is Ezra:
You don't have to reveal his name.
In the Star Wars universe, bad guys use pseudonyms pretty much all the time. We as Rebels fans don't need to know at the time that Episode 8 comes out that he is Ezra. They could just not reveal it at all in the trilogy. Assuming the last season of Rebels comes out around the same time as Episode 9, I think it would be super cool for Rebels fans if the show becomes a backstory for Del Toro's character without anyone even knowing it. Like, assume he has something to do with the formation of the Knights of Ren. That's how he's introduced in Episode 8. His name in the movie is _____ Ren. Then as the show comes to a close, in those last few episodes, we start to see how Ezra forms the Knights, how he goes full dark side, and it becomes more and more apparent that he was Del Toro's character the whole time. It's brilliant. And would further prove how much care and forethought and overall respect for this new canon Disney has. It has the advantage of making it so you don't need to watch Rebels to get everything out of the movie, but if you do watch the show you get that bonus backstory. Kind of like how we get so much more out of Anakin by watching Clone Wars.
You guys have been blowing this off this whole time for a good reason. Obviously you don't introduce Del Toro's character as Ezra Bridger. THAT would be really stupid because that name is meaningless to 99% of the people who will watch the movie. But you've been missing the idea of introducing him as a mysterious dark force user that doesn't need any deep explanation, and THEN, a couple years later you mould Rebels into this neat backstory. Am I crazy here?
Side note. Has anyone considered that Sabine is of clan Wren, there's a slight tease that Ezra and Sabine might have some relationship down the line, and that it's entirely possible that if he takes her name it's a possible origin for the name of the Knights of Ren?
Might as well have it written down somewhere so I can prove I was right.
+James Murray Well, I did read it all. I like it and I mostly agree. Also it's funny, the council thinks "Twilight of the Apprentice" means the death of Ahsoka. But it could also EASILY mean the fall of Ezra, to the darkside as well. (Why else bring in Maul?)
Just attempted to go see The Revenant today in mid western Canada... ended up seeing Star Wars again. It was a large cinema showing in only 2 screens in a medium-large theatre (20 screens) but still it was totally packed. Don't see many movies with legs like that... not since Avatar, Titanic.
My question is if and only if Boba is in Rogue One, who's gonna do his voice? The guy that did the clone voices and played Jango or someone else. Would be a sizable check for him
Mark is the man! We will await his return! Damn, I love this show! Thanks for what you guys do
DUDE!! two movies a year sounds great to me
So is Boyega just not gonna be on the show?
Ever?
+peterthesneakybastar well he's busy filming 8 right now so he has a ok excuse I guess but I'm patiently waiting for him
+peterthesneakybastar Entirely up to him. I'm sure if he had the time, he might stop in for a visit.
+peterthesneakybastar I don't think he's even been confirmed yet? They've talked about trying to get him on the show but it hasn't been confirmed.
Well he's currently shooting a little movie called Star Wars Episode VIII...
Thanks for making my day better
Regarding last twitter question about Vader and Boba Fett interaction over the "no disintegration" line.
[Boba disintegrated a Rebel that had key information]
Vader: [force choking Boba while lifting him off the ground] You were instructed they were no good to me dead ;)
[Vader releases him]
Vader: You're fortunate I still have use for you.
The Han Solo movie was always scheduled for a May 2018 release date. They announced that when they announced the film in general. It was announced here back in July: www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film
I read a rumored plotline for Episode VIII that said the film would open up with Finn and Poe traveling somewhere in search of Lando at Leia's request since the Resistance needs all the help it can get. They find Lando, who has been going under another name, with his daughter and he agrees to help them. I don't believe this rumor at all since later on it was said that Snoke is Palpatine which is ridiculous, but even so I can see Lando being introduced in that way and I actually hope that small part of the rumor is true.
Somehow tying in Han ditching Jabba's cargo as his cameo would be cool if done right
May and Dec every year plays nicely into the quarterly results cycle.
I'm really hoping we get one scene with Anakin (Vader/Hayden Christensen hybrid like in the Force Awakens concept art) Obi-Wan, Yoda, Luke and Rey. What a beautiful way to tie together all three of the trilogies
Man! you guys took a question on the next animated star wars series and no one touched on the possibility of doing a Luke trains Ben Solo before his turn to the darkside. Which I think would be so wicked cool!! In any case great episode this week!
I really think you might want to look into del toro playing Ezra especially with Sabines clan being ren maybe he and maul started the Knights after Sabines death
I asked a year ago if john would think that chadvic boseman would be a good fit for lando. I guess he saw the question.
God! Please don't let Ahsoka die! That would fuck me up! Such an important character to my childhood!
The Force Awakens is coming digitally April 1 and on Blu-ray/DVD April 5! Yesssssss!
for Mothma they can use the actress from the cut scenes in Episode III.
Spielberg's Ready Player One is releasing on March 30, 2018
That's why there are directors cut dvds and cut scenes on an extras discs.
wasn't the actor who plays Firestorm in Legends of Tomorrow in Attack the Black as well with John Boyega
Billy Dee Williams was 43 in Empire Strikes Back so a 14 year old Lando would be around the era between Episode 1 and 2. I don’t know if that’s the age and era I want to see Lando.
Regarding disintegration: have Boba Fett in Rogue One, and have him "disintegrate" some people, but have their bodies look like the charred remains of the Lars family. Then also release a comic that shows Boba hanging out with Jabba in Mos Eisley and getting a call from Vader to find some droids at the Lars homestead. Boom, canonising fan theories.
Ready Player One is a love letter to the 70s and 80s geek culture. Stars Wars fans should check out Armada, Cline's second novel, which is a love letter more directly to sci-fi fantasy films and games. Star Wars, Star Trek, Battle Star Galatica, and The Last Starfighter are just a few films and series Armada pays homage too, but with it's own creative take on this genre. Cline really is a great author, and both books are home runs in my opinion. His characters are realistic, and his plots develop naturally, and it all flows together to create a great story that I think most Star Wars fans would enjoy. It would be nice if Disney could get Cline to write a Star Wars novel even! This guy is somebody to keep your eye on.
The Rebels series is excellent with a group of new characters in the Star Wars Universe, and I would like to see the focus of the anthology movies on new stories (like Rogue One) rather than young versions of old characters, i.e. Han Solo, Lando, and Obi Wan.
Wayne Pygram was Tarkin for the final moment of Episode 3, go watch him play Scorpius in Farscape and i believe he could play an awesome Tarkin in Rogue One
you guys (and gals) need to watch obi wan remebers. it's only about 1:20. and it's a really neat edit of obi wan talking to luke with cuts from episode 3
Obi-Wan’s ghost already reached out to Rey in the Force Awakens. It would be strange if Obi-Wan’s ghost doesn’t show up to speak to both Luke and Rey about what’s going on. Anakin and Yoda could return too.
That last question was a doozy. Got me thinking like crazy.
My theory for the "no disintegrations" line has always been that Boba Fett is the one that torched Luke's aunt and uncle in episode 4.
I am so beyond glad that Simon Pegg's character Plutt got his arms ripped out of their sockets. I'm only sad that we didn't get to see it happen on screen. I would have jumped out of my seat and cheered in the cinema. It would be just desserts for a man like Pegg, who hates not only the prequels, but the people that like the prequels.
I think where Boba Fett first started working for Vader is in the Vader comic, I doubt he will appear in Rogue One. He will be big in Han Solo and his own film though so it's fine.
BvS trailer 4 was first released in MKJ Film Distribution youtube channel.What's MKJ Film Distribution ?
Wasn't expecting Dexter spoilers in the middle of Jedi Council. Thanks.
Really?! Dexter. Sorry, but there is an expiration date on spoilers and Dexter has long since 'spoiled'.
Once this trilogy is done, they should wait a few years (five at max.) and start a new trilogy (with anthology films in between this trilogy and the next)
If Benicio Del Toro is Ezra that would be great. Episode VIII wouldn't need to provide any backstory on the character, but if you want to know, go watch Rebels.
YES! I really like the score for FA. It's nice to hear you guys like it too.
*hums Kylo Ren's theme*
Obi wan and Yoda have to come back as force ghosts. If Luke has a lot of screen time, they will appear. I Can't wait!
I bet that we'll see Doctor Strange and Rogue One teasers / trailers attached to Civil War. Disney has their hands full to put it out that early. Civil War has perfect distance here.
I like the idea of a Star Wars release in May, sticking with the "May the 4th Be With You" theme. Sure, release the trilogy films in December, but release the anthology films in May. One of the worst things about sequels is having to recast characters because the actors have aged, or whatever other reason. Minimize the time between releases and it will help to preserve the films' continuity.
Hi guys, love all the shows you guys do. My questions is this, why is it that Luke's arm is shown as robotic CGI in SWVII? I know when the trailers for SWVII all came out we were all like, there's Luke touching R2 with his hand, but wait his hand had skin on it, also at the end of SWVII when he pulls his hood over and you see his robotic hand..
He of course gets his arm cut off by Vader in Empire in that great scene, then he gets his new arm and it has human skin over it as the robot who does the surgery on him pokes him a few times and then he closes it up. Then flash forward to Return of the Jedi and he wears a black glove the entire film, he gets shot in that hand on the Han rescue with Jaba and then they close in on him fixing it later. What happened to it, did it malfunction after Jedi or did something happen when he was teaching the Knights of Ren? Do you think they will explain this?
Rob
If you go from the original trilogy - Obi Wan was a force ghost for the last 2 movies - it would not make sense to only have yoda force ghost there - especially how connected Luke was to Obi Wan.
Love Jedi Council!
How's this for a possible title for Ep.8 - "Star Wars Episode VIII: The Darkside Rises".
And I hope they DO bring back Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen as Obi Wan and Anakin, because that would tie everything together and maybe the 2nd trilogy wasn't wat it could have been, it's still canon and should be acknowledged as such!
(btw, that picture of Ewan made up to look like Alec Guiness is AMAZING!)
First time viewer, turned subscriber. Awesome series!
I'm thinking the Shroud of Darkness episode will be when we first see Maul in Rebels..
john williams also wrote a part of fiddler on the roof
All I want is an Obi Wan Anthology film with Ewan Mcgregor. I'd even be up for an Anakin Anthology film if Hayden Christensen was actually a good actor. I don't know if him or Lucas was the problem but I would hope it was just Lucas that was holding back his acting.
+nrs10001 Hayden is actually a decent actor, but because of the prequels and his performance in those films I don't ever want to see Hayden as Anakin again. I would be all for an Obi-Wan stand-alone film, though. Make it a western on Tatooine and I'll be there day one!
twmcgraw303 I think it's less about Hayden though and more about me wanting Anakin to be redeemed in a film. He would be my favorite jedi just from watching the clone wars but every time I think of him I just think of the prequels. Kinda ruins his character all together.
Hayden, will be in viii or ix, book it. Anakin, almost has to be if they are going ghosts again.
he must be in 8 for 2 reasons: redemption and also it makes sense for the story this is his 2 legacies fighting as vader and the other as anakin i just dont believe that he just dissapeared while watching his grandson and possibly his granddaughter fighting with that fate of the galaxy at stake.
Gilmartin Pares exactly
The forgotten droid?!
HK-47: *condescending* Oh who knows who that could be! Master ;)
Jedi council before I go smoke some blunts and watch deadpool :)
Set looks amazing
These Griffin hello intro's are getting crazy. You guys should use that every intro now.
@ColliderVideos
What if Boba Fett was actually the one who disintegrated Lukes aunt and uncle while searching for the droid bounty and for this reason, Vader pointed at him and said that.
I usually agree with Tiffany, but I disagree about Benicio Del Toro being "sub par" or minor in Guardians of the Galaxy. He did good as The Collector , the character himself is a galactic elder and he's one of the few with an infinity stone. Saying that I think the Oscar winning Del Torro is going to be huge in VIII and once again of great importance in a Disney film.
I hope Dave Filoni makes a series about Luke starting the New Jedi Academy that would be amazing
you guys are so f****** informative I love it
I hate the idea of a young, recast Han Solo. It worked for Obi-Wan but as great as Alec Guinness was, he still doesn't have the recognizability of Harrison Ford. There are so many other stories they could tell.