Another defunct midwestern college football team that might be interesting to cover is UW-Superior, as they had some success early on but as time went on, they sank to the bottom of the now WIAC save some sub .500 season in the late 60s-early 70s. Two fun facts: one alum is among the Purple People Eaters and their last game against WIAC power UW-Whitewater was a win, somehow
So, my two favourite college football guys are together talking about my uni. After this is done I’ve to face the reality of Shocker basketball but I’m all in.
Wichitan, WSU fan, and football fan here: I really appreciate you telling this story. My highschool actually used to play their home games at Cessna Stadium before they started demolition, and I have a lot of memories connected to that place. I've always been interested in the WSU football program and I'm glad more people are learning about the good old Shocks.
Linwood Sexton is my uncle's father! He was a great guy, always gave my sister and I cash at Christmas. It was crazy growing up and learning the mark he'd made. I wrote a paper about him for my tenth grade English class a year before he passed, probably the last interview he ever did
My first "big time" college football game was at Cessna Stadium in 1982 against New Mexico State. I knew nothing about either team, just that I had never seen a football game in such a huge stadium. Lol! I have been hooked on college football ever since. We went to both KState and KU games that year as well. I couldn't believe how much bigger their stadiums were than WSU's. I guess when you're 8 years old, everything seems big. All 3 stadiums are (were) relatively small compared to most big time college programs.
Was surprised to find this video on my fyp. I’m around the Wichita area so I knew the story but didn’t think anyone would care enough about a Kansas school to make a video about it
@7:46 the audio says B-12. Which was a prewar twin engine bomber built by Martin. The inset says B-24 which was a wartime four engine bomber built by Consolidated. The video shows a Douglas A-20 an American plane flown by the RAF of Great Britain.
Excellent video as always, but for the sake of thoroughness, a minor correction: 5:15 although Oklahoma State had changed their team name from the Tigers to the Cowboys by 1954, the school itself was still known as Oklahoma A&M.
The last year Wichita State played football, one of their road games was against my alma mater, Arizona State in 1986. ASU went 9-1-1 during the regular season that year before beating Bo Schembechler's Michigan Wolverines in the Rose Bowl, 22-15. Jim Harbaugh started for Michigan. The game against Wichita State wasn't close. It was 52-6. The team was overmatched. I remember the game because even then there was talk that the Wichita State's football program was on the endangered list, which after the season, it was shut down.
I was a freshman up at KU the year WSU beat the Jayhawks in Lawrence 13-10 on Parents Say. My Dad, a WSU grad, was ecstatic, I was so ashamed I bombed out at KU and finished my degree at Wichita State... around the time they shuttered the football program.
By any chance could you do a video on the Carnegie Mellon football program? I've always heard of how good they were back in pre WW2 times and there are a bunch of stories on upsets that they made, such as shutting out knute rockne's Notre Dame twice and beating #1 Pitt in 1938 I think it would make a great video.
There's a severe void of FCS football in this section of the plains. Have to go to Missouri or all the way up to the Dakotas or Iowa to see it. WSU could fill that void and be incredibly successful if only the people in Wichita making the decisions could ever pull their heads out of their asses.
What if Wichita State football program started out in 1987-88 season in Division 1-AA now known as FCS for 10 years course for 9 years in the Big Sky conference from 1987 to 1996 and more up to Division 1-A now known as FBS Independent for 3 years from 1997 to 2000 and joining the C-USA for 9 years starting in 2001 to 2010 then moving from C-USA to AAC know as American after that for 3 years moving to the Big XII conference in 2014 having a biggest stadium and having back rivals in Kansas Jayhawks and the Kansas State Wildcats. Big XII conference would have 11 schools in all sports(men-women) in 2014 and when Oklahoma Sooners/Texas Longhorns go to SEC in 2024 after BYU, UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati joining the Big XII conference in 2023 also having Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah joining the Big XII conference in 2024. Oklahoma State Cowboys and Texas Tech Redraiders joining the SEC in 2026 having Rice, Memphis, Tulsa, and Tulane joining the Big XII conference in 2026. But in 1987 Wichita State Shockers football started hiring Dennis Green from Northwestern Wildcats.
As a local 316 from the ICT. Wichita will never support football. They tried to research it a few years ago and put like 50k into it. Too much Wichita is a bandwagon city. They only enjoy the chiefs when they are good. KU bball. Some KSU football. The rest is nill. We have a local NAIA school and that's hardly heard of. ICT is not a sports town. Many indoor and arena football teams and minor league hockey and baseball. Tickets are given away at the counters of local gas stations. It's not a town for it. Even though it could be the best destination for sports
Yeah they put all that money into riverfront and I hardly know anyone who goes to games. Only time they’d ever get any attendance is when kstate or ku come down to give em a beating
@@valentesolis9212 some of Riverfronts biggest turnouts were the football games. There’s definitely a market for it in Wichita it’s just not being seized!
It’d cost a lot to bring it back. If you bring back football you have to start other sports as well. Have to have a woman’s sport start up to be title IX compliant and the stadium I imagine is fairly run down. Used to go there every year for band competitions but football was still going on then. I’d love to see WSU have football. Always will love my Jayhawks but living in Hutchinson means I could take a quick drive and go watch them play
You need to know that more than funding just for renovations and such, TITLE 9 was the main factor in not being able to bring it back. Since we have to “let the girls play”, WSU would have had to add an equal amount of funding/scholarships/facilities to meaningless women’s sports that no one watches and that don’t bring in any revenue for the school.
I ain't watching the video, just came to see that I competed in track at WSU a couple times, they rebuilt the whole field and stands and stuffed their shot put ring in the corner next to it. Kinda dumb to me but I guess it's in remembrance
As a currently enrolled, soon to graduate shocker, it’s amazing to know that while Rutgers invented football and Alabama mastered it, we saved it.
Glad to have had the opportunity to work with you on this one!
goat collab
Ngl up until now I didn’t even realize yall were two different accounts
@@georgebad4229 how
@@georgebad4229you couldn’t tell from their voices?
I believe legendary NFL coach Bill Parcells played and coached here way back in the early '60's ! 🏈
Player from 1960-1963. Took a linebackers coach job at Hastings College in Nebraska in 1964 before returning to WSU in 1965.
You are correct
He did
Another defunct midwestern college football team that might be interesting to cover is UW-Superior, as they had some success early on but as time went on, they sank to the bottom of the now WIAC save some sub .500 season in the late 60s-early 70s. Two fun facts: one alum is among the Purple People Eaters and their last game against WIAC power UW-Whitewater was a win, somehow
So, my two favourite college football guys are together talking about my uni.
After this is done I’ve to face the reality of Shocker basketball but I’m all in.
Two of the best football storytellers on TH-cam, we’ve been blessed
Once Ted Lasso left all his recruiting decommitted and they were finished
Wichitan, WSU fan, and football fan here: I really appreciate you telling this story. My highschool actually used to play their home games at Cessna Stadium before they started demolition, and I have a lot of memories connected to that place. I've always been interested in the WSU football program and I'm glad more people are learning about the good old Shocks.
what school? east?
Linwood Sexton is my uncle's father! He was a great guy, always gave my sister and I cash at Christmas. It was crazy growing up and learning the mark he'd made. I wrote a paper about him for my tenth grade English class a year before he passed, probably the last interview he ever did
My first "big time" college football game was at Cessna Stadium in 1982 against New Mexico State. I knew nothing about either team, just that I had never seen a football game in such a huge stadium. Lol!
I have been hooked on college football ever since. We went to both KState and KU games that year as well. I couldn't believe how much bigger their stadiums were than WSU's. I guess when you're 8 years old, everything seems big. All 3 stadiums are (were) relatively small compared to most big time college programs.
I knew about the Wichita State plane crash, but had no idea that it was due to flying low in the Rocky mountains 🤦
Same here, it seems like common sense not to do that
Was surprised to find this video on my fyp. I’m around the Wichita area so I knew the story but didn’t think anyone would care enough about a Kansas school to make a video about it
I know right
Petrofor3 loves your content so much. Petrofor3 looks forward to every upload. This one exceeded expectation. Great stuff as usual
@7:46 the audio says B-12. Which was a prewar twin engine bomber built by Martin. The inset says B-24 which was a wartime four engine bomber built by Consolidated. The video shows a Douglas A-20 an American plane flown by the RAF of Great Britain.
My athletic advisor in highschool survived this plane crash. Told us the story about it all and it’s just such a small world we live in.
Excellent video as always, but for the sake of thoroughness, a minor correction: 5:15 although Oklahoma State had changed their team name from the Tigers to the Cowboys by 1954, the school itself was still known as Oklahoma A&M.
thanks! and yeah I stuck to Oklahoma State throughout just to remain consistent but it definitely warranted a sidenote
The last year Wichita State played football, one of their road games was against my alma mater, Arizona State in 1986. ASU went 9-1-1 during the regular season that year before beating Bo Schembechler's Michigan Wolverines in the Rose Bowl, 22-15. Jim Harbaugh started for Michigan. The game against Wichita State wasn't close. It was 52-6. The team was overmatched.
I remember the game because even then there was talk that the Wichita State's football program was on the endangered list, which after the season, it was shut down.
"Heads will roll! Heads will roll!" Washburn Icabods chant. Such a cool little campus.
Im enrolled for my freshman year at WSU for Aug 2024, and I love my home city I just wish we still had football 🥲🏈
Man I feel you. I'm 42 they have been talking about it since I was a kid.
They still hold the record for the most interceptions thrown in a year tho. 34 by John Eckman in 1966
I was a freshman up at KU the year WSU beat the Jayhawks in Lawrence 13-10 on Parents Say. My Dad, a WSU grad, was ecstatic, I was so ashamed I bombed out at KU and finished my degree at Wichita State... around the time they shuttered the football program.
I remember WSU '82 fb - which faced a talented AzSt squad. Also recall the 2 legendary hoops players who each had nicknames. Good times.
By any chance could you do a video on the Carnegie Mellon football program? I've always heard of how good they were back in pre WW2 times and there are a bunch of stories on upsets that they made, such as shutting out knute rockne's Notre Dame twice and beating #1 Pitt in 1938 I think it would make a great video.
I grew up near Wichita, went to Cessna Stadium a few times. Never put 2 and 2 together and realized they had a field and no team.
NCAA 25 WSU will be back in the glory days 😢
so cool to see this collab of in my opinion the 2 best cfb creators on the platform.
Your videos are absolutely amazing, you totally deserve more publicity
Wow. This video was just amazing.
Missed you buddy
DubK reppin!!! WSU Football undefeated since 1987!!!!
I almost enrolled in my hometown college because i thought they were bringing back football
As a kstate fan for life, I wish this team never went away or got brought back somehow
Another high quality video!
Lifelong Wichita native here, WSU ended football long before I was born. Glad to see this showcase of our history!
I'd also like to point out that the interception definitely hit the ground ok byeeeee
There's a severe void of FCS football in this section of the plains. Have to go to Missouri or all the way up to the Dakotas or Iowa to see it. WSU could fill that void and be incredibly successful if only the people in Wichita making the decisions could ever pull their heads out of their asses.
Baby Bro needs to bother Charlie Koch. He will pony up that dough for a better stadium.
What was the first down before ten yards?
How does this video only have 10k views
Love your vids
What if Wichita State football program started out in 1987-88 season in Division 1-AA now known as FCS for 10 years course for 9 years in the Big Sky conference from 1987 to 1996 and more up to Division 1-A now known as FBS Independent for 3 years from 1997 to 2000 and joining the C-USA for 9 years starting in 2001 to 2010 then moving from C-USA to AAC know as American after that for 3 years moving to the Big XII conference in 2014 having a biggest stadium and having back rivals in Kansas Jayhawks and the Kansas State Wildcats. Big XII conference would have 11 schools in all sports(men-women) in 2014 and when Oklahoma Sooners/Texas Longhorns go to SEC in 2024 after BYU, UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati joining the Big XII conference in 2023 also having Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah joining the Big XII conference in 2024. Oklahoma State Cowboys and Texas Tech Redraiders joining the SEC in 2026 having Rice, Memphis, Tulsa, and Tulane joining the Big XII conference in 2026. But in 1987 Wichita State Shockers football started hiring Dennis Green from Northwestern Wildcats.
Shocking story.
As a local 316 from the ICT. Wichita will never support football. They tried to research it a few years ago and put like 50k into it. Too much
Wichita is a bandwagon city. They only enjoy the chiefs when they are good. KU bball. Some KSU football. The rest is nill. We have a local NAIA school and that's hardly heard of. ICT is not a sports town. Many indoor and arena football teams and minor league hockey and baseball. Tickets are given away at the counters of local gas stations. It's not a town for it. Even though it could be the best destination for sports
This. Wichita is a city of so much potential with one of the worst citizenry in the country.
Yeah they put all that money into riverfront and I hardly know anyone who goes to games. Only time they’d ever get any attendance is when kstate or ku come down to give em a beating
@@valentesolis9212 some of Riverfronts biggest turnouts were the football games. There’s definitely a market for it in Wichita it’s just not being seized!
It’d cost a lot to bring it back. If you bring back football you have to start other sports as well. Have to have a woman’s sport start up to be title IX compliant and the stadium I imagine is fairly run down. Used to go there every year for band competitions but football was still going on then. I’d love to see WSU have football. Always will love my Jayhawks but living in Hutchinson means I could take a quick drive and go watch them play
BEST THING ABOUT WSU
FORT HAYS STATE MENTIONED RAHHHHH
Wonder if WSU had dropped down to D2, that they’d still be around?
Nah we are still a D1 school
outro song?
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You need to know that more than funding just for renovations and such, TITLE 9 was the main factor in not being able to bring it back. Since we have to “let the girls play”, WSU would have had to add an equal amount of funding/scholarships/facilities to meaningless women’s sports that no one watches and that don’t bring in any revenue for the school.
I ain't watching the video, just came to see that I competed in track at WSU a couple times, they rebuilt the whole field and stands and stuffed their shot put ring in the corner next to it. Kinda dumb to me but I guess it's in remembrance
oklahoma is not midwest
316 dub-k 🌾