The Surprising Link Between Intermittent Fasting, Diabetes, and Cancer. Dr. Fung Explains - Part 2
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- The Surprising Link Between Intermittent Fasting, Diabetes, and Cancer. Dr. Jason Fung Explains | PART 2 | TARGET: Cancer Podcast | Ep. 44
In this second part of the interview with Dr. Jason Fung, we delve into a new paradigm for understanding cancer and a fresh approach to treatment. Our conversation uncovers groundbreaking insights that challenge traditional views on cancer, how it evolves, and how to fight it. Join us as we take back control in the fight against cancer with Dr. Jason Fung.
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00:00 Introduction
01:20 The somatic mutation theory
08:52 There are too many mutations
12:36 The Hallmarks of Cancer
16:58 What is cancer, and how does it develop?
18:23 The jump to multicellularity
25:23 The kernel of cancer
31:26 Chronicity is the key
36:29 The evolutionary paradigm
38:45 How metastasis happens
52:25 Micro Metastases
1:03:00 Coley's Toxins story
1:09:30 How the evolutionary paradigm helps find new treatments for cancer
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- ABOUT DR JASON FUNG -
Jason Fung, MD, was born in 1973 and trained in Los Angeles and Toronto as a kidney specialist. He founded The Fasting Method (TheFastingMethod.com) to provide evidence-based advice for weight loss and managing blood sugars, focusing on low carbohydrate diets and intermittent fasting.
It has become obvious that conventional medical treatments are failing patients. Many of today’s chronic medical issues are related to diet and obesity, yet treatments are focused on medications and surgeries. If you don’t deal with the root cause, the problem never improves. A dietary problem requires a dietary solution.
Dr. Fung is the author of The Obesity Code, The Complete Guide to Fasting, and The Diabetes Code. He is also the scientific editor of the Journal of Insulin Resistance and the managing director of the nonprofit organization Public Health Collaboration (Canada), an international group dedicated to promoting sound nutritional information.
- ABOUT DR SANJAY JUNEJA -
Dr. Sanjay Juneja is a triple board-certified Hematologist & Medical Oncologist serving as Chief of Oncology Service at Baton Rouge General Hospital, a social & news media personality known as the 'TheOncDoc' with over half a million followers, and one of fifteen social media doctors participating in the Healthcare Leaders in Social Media Round Table Series for the White House.
He has been featured by The Washington Post as well as dozens of national podcasts and regional news channels (PBS, CBS, NBC, NPR), and has given keynote speeches and partnered with American Cancer Society, BeTheMatch, Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, Harvard University, Louisiana Department of Health and several others.
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This guy is a gem 💎 I just found out a friend of mine has leukaemia- in your opinion, would intermittent fasting and elimination of sugar be a positive step for her?
@@willm5814 A positive step for her would be ignoring what SGOTI says.
Dr seyfried is also another that is one to watch
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Fascinating and super informative. I would like to hear Dr Fung talk about low-dose insulin targeted chemo. Seems like it would lead to unmasking cancer and minimize the evolution of the cancer.
Fasting also stimulates phagocytosis, which is also very important for clearing cancer out of the body! Some benefits of doing occasional extended fasting: High blood pressure is lowered to normal levels very quickly while fasting.
Fibrosis/scarring is reversed over time.
Fasting increases nitric oxide release.
Fasting restores NAD+ to healthy levels.
Vitamin D plasma levels are increased as fasting improves metabolic health, and vitamin D in turn increases autophagy.
Fasting stimulates phagocytosis, the ingestion of bacteria, plaques and viruses by the immune system. It will also remove any 'foreign material' like spikes that are not supposed to be there. Whether natural or unnatural in origin..
Blood clotting is reduced and blood clots and arterial plaque are reabsorbed into the body.
Reflexes and short term memory are increased.
Fasts from 36-96 h increase metabolic rate due to norepinephrine release!
After 72 hours or more fasted, your body recycles up to 1/3 of all immune bodies, rejuvenating your entire immune system.
Fasting can help with MS, Depression, BPD, Autism and seizures.
Thymus is regenerated, which suppresses aging and renews the immune system. The thymus also plays a vital role in fighting cancer.
Blood sugar and insulin are lowered when fasting, allowing white blood cells to move more freely throughout the body and do their job. Some viruses activate glycolosis (the release of sugar in the body) and clinically it has been shown that decreasing glucose metabolism in the body weakens the influenza virus.
Weight loss from daily caloric restriction has 1/4 to 1/3 of the weight lost as lean tissue while many studies show fat loss from 36 h fasts without losing any lean tissue! The hunger hormone ghrelin also lowers with extended fasting and rises from dieting.
When you move out of MTOR your body shuts down the building blocks of the cell required for viruses to replicate.
What breaks a fast? Anything with protein or carbohydrates in it will break a fast. Most teas and herbs are OK. Most supplements and meds will either break ketosis directly or contain a filler that will. Many meds are dangerous to take while fasting.
Does fasting lower testosterone? No, it raises it when the fast is broken by increasing lutenizing hormone. Fasting also increases insulin sensitivity, which helps with muscle building.
Fasts of 36-96 will not affect short term female fertility or affect menstrual cycle. They also may increase long term fertility, especially in women with PCOS.
Fasting reduces pain and anxiety by stimulating the endocannabinoid system in a similar way to CBD oil.
Fasting very quickly reduces leptin resistance, which impairs immune function. One day of fasting can cut your leptin levels in half and gets your immune system working properly again!
Stomach acid is reduced over time while fasting and can allow for the healing of treatment resistant ulcers. Some patients may need continued acid reduction medication while fasting.
Does the body preferentially prefer glucose as a fuel? No. Except for brief periods of very intense exercise, your body mainly burns fats in the form of free fatty acids. Your brain also prefers to burn ketones at a rate of around 2.5 to 1 when they are available in equal quantity to glucose.
Fasting stimulates the AMPK complex and activates autophagy. Autophagy (literally self eating) will cause cells to recycle foreign matter such as viruses and kill cancerous and senescent cells
Lowering insulin via fasting virtually eliminates chronic inflammation in the body.
It increases mitochondrial function and repairs mitichondrial DNA, leading to improved ATP production and oxygen efficiency.
Fasting releases BDNF and NGF in the blood which stimulates new nerve and brain cell growth. This can help a great deal with diseases like MS, peripheral neuropathy and Alzheimers.
When not in ketosis, the brain can only burn carbohydrate, which produces a great deal of damaging ROS the brain has to deal with.
Fasting also increases telomere length, negating some of the effects of aging at a cellular level.
When you fast, this stimulates apoptosis in senescent or genetically damaged cells, destroying them. Senescent cells are responsible for many of the effects of aging and are a root cause of the development of cancer.
A fasting mimicking diet for 3-5 days in a row also provides many of the same benefits as water fasting. FMD usually has 200-800 calories, under 18 g of protein and extremely low carbs.
Exogenous ketones can aid with fasting, making it easier in healthy people and allowing some people with specific issues to fast in spite of them without worrying as much about hypoglycemia.
Children, pregnant or nursing women should not fast for periods longer than 16 hours. People with pancreatic tumors or certain forms of hypoglycemia generally cannot fast at all. Type 1 diabetics can also fast but it is more complicated and should be approached with caution as it could lead to ketoacidosis. If you experience extreme symptoms of some kind, especially dizziness or tremors, then simply break the fast and seek advice.
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This list compiled over years of research by the user known as Pottenger's Human on youtube but feel free to copy and paste this anywhere you like, no accreditation needed!
My channel will always contain an updated version of this list of fasting benefits on the community tab. I also have playlists on fasting and health topics.
Thank you soooo much!
@@melissadd7597 Of course!
Thank you for the research references!
@@OneWorldSinger You're very welcome!
LTP, first, you are EVERYWHERE!!! Lol. That makes me feel like I must be following all the right people and their health strategies.
Second, you mentioned blood pressure in your response. Well, I just learned through Nathan Bryan, Ph.D. (in a podcast about N.O.) that mouthwash raises blood pressure, so then I pursued THAT. (Btw, I have never used mouthwash). Well, come to find out, upon further research, xylitol is a great addition to a daily routine for a healthy oral microbiome, which, in turn, confers many other health benefits. So, whatta ya think about them apples🍎 🍎 🍎 ??!!?!?!?🙃
So once damaged mitochondria can no longer derive energy from oxidative phosphorylation, the cell, in order to survive, switches to glycolysis, which is the pathway that unicellular and cancer cells use for ATP energy? This is an A+ lecture!! Mind boggling!
Dr. Jason Fung is Brilliant, not just in his understanding, but in his ability to communicate so clearly. Thank you both for this event.
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Fung always gives the most understandable explanations for everything!!! Because it’s PURE logic!!!
Thank you both so much! I’m cooking and coaching for three people with cancer and just ordered Jason’s Cancer Code. I’ve been following Jason for a few years now and have completely turned around my own metabolic syndrome, lost 50 lbs, and no more diabetes or high BP after doing his fasting recommendations. Yay for this beyond-simple approach to fueling our meat suits! 🥳🥳🥳
Dr Jason Fung and Dr Thomas Seyfried are amazing, why can’t we change the paradigm? 😢 Thank you for putting out this information maybe we can spread the word until we can get change 🙏
Because there is no profit in healthy people.
Dr Henning Saupe #germany #author
Money and an unwillingness to admit life destroying error.
@@chineduokonkwo1775you are right on. People don’t make money on fasting. You cannot sell soda and medicine to someone fasting 😅
because they reject science in favor of anecdotes.
Dr Jason. Fung is BRILLANT❤...we have to get his information around the world🎉
Indeed. Feel free to share this video
Extremely good interview. Both of my parents died from cancer (my dad, pancreatic-58 yr, my mom, breast-79 yr), and I want to better understand the disease mechanism, prevention and cure. Videos like this elevate understanding, please keep them coming!
We are glad you found the videos useful. We have many published videos, addressing all types of cancer. Be sure to check them out too.
I hear your concern, sorry to hear about your parents. And metabolic perspective based treatment is getting increasing attention for good reasons. Sure, you're getting plenty of good information on Warburg fermentation and glutamine metabolism. That's why I suggest that you become well versed in ... yes: electromagnetic waves (also known as light). Is food / metabolism relevant? Sure. But what about light? Anyone would like to claim it stops at UVB / vitamin D production might need to educate themselves.
Fast! Keto! Carnivore! The trifecta
To learn about this is mindblowing, as our cells (competition vs collaboration) behave the same way as our society does.
If you now look at our country as a organism, individuality is prized highly in a democracy, which is similar to unicellular metabolism, rather then multicellular metabolism which demands a higher level of coorporation between individuals, then it’s logical to state that in our current state of affairs where we are more polarized then ever, meaning coorporation between individuals and groups is declining, we are moving toward unicellular states increasing the chances of driving cancer in our country(organism). Therefore institutions that promote collective consciousness are so utterly valuable in a democratic society.
Amazing interview as a person with stage four cancer since 2020. I’ve been stable when I started a treatment in 2021. This is so encouraging. If I ever won the lottery I mean a big win lol I would so support this type of research. I totally agree with the approach, and it makes so much more sense why some people do well and some people don’twith treatment… Thanks again for this amazing interview I so appreciate it❤
What treatment yo do
With knowledge like this increasing in the world, a Brighter Future is on your side!
I’m on Letrozole
Why not have a prolonged fasting therapy as part of the prevention guidelines for chronic diseases.
Why limit it to prevention only?
Because then we wouldn’t have profitable markets for pharmaceuticals and surgical interventions.
I know that sounds awful, and by no means do I believe that doctors generally see patients as walking ATMs, but I know that the corporate boardrooms are full of snakes in suits.
Modern medicine doesn’t do prevention. No doctor knows enough about prevention, they are not taught that in medical school. They are not even taught well about nutrition. How would the big pharma make any money if people were taught prévention without drugs?
@@ilegor365
Never said ONLY. I am not limiting it to prevention as all test are for cure. Lets use common sense. Fasting is now being use for cure of cancer. Fasting mimicking diet Dr Longo
@@ilegor365agreed, based on the data I'm looking through, it seems like fasting opens the window to making treatments more effective since the cancer loses it's main fuel, glucose since they rarely are able to switch to using ketones to survive...once in remission, maintaining a low glucose diet is key to reducing future cancer risk (low carb, high fat diet)
Absolutely fascinating explanation of cancer, Dr Fung. Dr Sanjay--I can't wait to watch the next episode!
adam, you a REAL one! thanks for your consistent and thoughtful support!
Dr Fung, you are the best! These informations are mind blowing, thank you very much!
We're glad you find this helpful.
Beyond fascinating…mind blowing…😳
Thank you for this really vital insight. 🙏
Another great video. Thanks Dr Sanjay and Dr Fung.
Thank you!
Outstanding video. Very scientific and must watch for the entire humanity. Thank you both.
This is utterly fantastic and fascinating As a person with a grade 4 Glioblastoma I find this gives me hope. Thanks for the great interview and for having the interest to try and solve this terrible thing called cancer. None of my oncologists in Sydney show any interest in or understanding in the metabolic links to cancer. Thanks again to both of you
Be sure and watch Dr.Seyfrieds p0dcast on your cancer also.
Avoid radiation like the plague as it will cause your tumor to grow not shrink. Good luck
Tell me about it. I'm in syd too
Audiofile, do you listen to Dr Seyfried's lectures on glioblastoma?
Yes I do. The thing I find confusing though is that one oncologist tells me that there is a risk that a Keto diet can force the tumour to become significantly for aggressive and desperate - causing mutations that will no longer respond to kemo. It’s all very confusing :)
@@audiofileptyltd5485 Glad you have heard of him he seems to have the most credible theories that I've ever heard regarding that particular diagnosis. Wishing you the very best
Love Dr fung, found him on you t during the pandemic anf started intermittent fasting more seriously. As a 77 yr old, I feel so much better.
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Fascinating discussion. Thank you!
Indeed. Thank you for commenting. Don't forget to watch Part 1 of this interview if you haven't already. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/RrGK3abwv0Q/w-d-xo.html
Unbelievably good and informative contribution here...
Glad you think so!
That interview was so mind blowingly interesting that I'm going to give it a second listen.
Mind blowing video! Amazing insight 👏
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Thank you for an excellent explanation, 🌸
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Amazing man, almost scary how clear and simple he explains. I get goose bump and sure, understood ( for the first time!)
Thank you for your comment
Do Dr Fungs book go into suggestions for healing and boosting the immune system? I had bc in 2008, did chemo and mastectomy. It was found again in 2016 with bone metastasis. I fast, change my diet, variety of supplements, etc to boost my immune system. I’m always looking for what else I can do.
Dr. Fung has published several books: The Cancer Code, The Obesity Code, The Diabetes Code. Be sure to check them out. Also, we had Dr. William Li as our guest, and we talked about the immune system. If you haven't watched that episode, we highly recommend it: th-cam.com/video/oflkgEYJFY0/w-d-xo.html
That’s why sleep, IF and exercise are so important
So informative thank you 🙏
We are glad that you found the information helpful.
Another great video.
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Thank you so much for this valuable information! I'm currently in treatment for stage 2 colorectal cancer. Just went through my first chemo
Wishing you all the best.
🙏🙏☮💝
Sending you warm wishes. Hoping you are coping well. I have a question for you…Are you a weightlifter or exercise frequently? I ask because so many younger people getting this horrible cancer seemingly are exercising frequently.
@@onemishelle Yes I love to lift weights for the last 30years and exercise, My opinion is that everything starts with your guy health. For so many of my younger years I just ate whatever I wanted to until I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in 2011 but had been probably going on longer since I never frequented Doctors. I feel diabetes is one of the number one things leading to my cancer now. That is why I feel this video is so important to me. Oncologist's do not even talk about nutrition or at least in my case, so you have to be your own advocate for your health . I have been low carb since the beginning of May 2023 trying to tackle and low my glucose levels which in turn will not feed the cancer cells. I am doing chemo as well because I feel it's a catch 22 if you don't. So far so good! I just had my updated CAT scan and nothing has metabolized :) I'm 54 years old and never thought this would happen to me but it is what it is right! Do what you can do :)
@@TheBatagsBest wishes to you for a full recovery ❤
Have you listened to any of the podcasts interviewing Fred Evard and his journey?
A brilliant explanation. My grandchildren understand it.
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I am so grateful for the insights provided by Dr. Fung!! All this brings so many questions to my mind... especially so regarding the down stream effects of hyperinsulinemia. When we look at the many hormones that insulin effects... and how chronic high insulin levels impact those hormones functions...well, it's so clear how/why hyperinsulinemia is a significant risk factor in this process. I am absolutely fascinated and could listen to Dr. Fung all day long! Thank you!
Thanks for your comment, Heather!
@@TargetCancer
Hi Doctor
Never smoked,drink alcohol,drugs ever
Yet at 70 years l now have stage 4 lung cancer
I am now taking Tagresso tabs
Only used a cPAp machine for fifteen years
Was the above the cause ?
Thank You Fatima
Thanks for reaching out. We are unable to advise on that. Please discuss it with your doctor.
This makes no sense either ...
If this was casa every diabetes would have cancer?
@@fatimaallie7141just curious if you have been jabbed and if the cancer comes after
This is awesome.
Indeed! Thanks for dropping by!
I remember reading a newspaper article years ago about a man with cancer who caught Malaria and then saw his cancer vanish. I didn't know whether the malaria was revving up the immune system or whether the high fever killed the cancer, but since then I never fight my fevers.
A lot of research is being done in this area using viruses to treat cancers by flagging the cancer for the immune system to destroy. I think this is going to be "The next big thing".
Imagine cancer is a natural healing mechanism to a toxin/trauma. What ever you do to it, the body finds a way to keep it alive as the body wants the cancer to keep growing to protect the body from the toxin/trauma. Unlike heart disease as in Jason's example, where the body wants to stop the heart disease, so what ever you do to the body to help it heal, it will want to heal. So you cannot cure cancer until you eliminate the cause, which explains those people who have 'spontaneous remission', they have resolved the cause, which is the cure! Look up German New Medicine to look at the science. Fascinating theory that makes so much sense for our highly intelligent body. If all humans and animals are able to grow cancer cells, they are there for a reason...
This is an interesting perspective I never thought of it like this but it makes sense.
Dr Fung is brilliant and fascinating.
I could really do without the noises you insert in your videos. If it wasn’t Dr Fung, I probably wouldn’t have lasted very long.
Many thanks for your feedback. We'll take into consideration all comments received. We have the podcast available on all streaming platforms to listen to without those sound effects. Here is the Spotify link: open.spotify.com/episode/4SyzdNTl8fgYKTuRqajmu1?si=RJQfys6IRB206xyqsgdMKA (it's also on Google, Apple, and others)
Amazing work, Dr. Sanjay. I really appreciate your effort. Thanks
😢thank you so much Dr.fung such a brilliant idea, 💕
You are so welcome!
I would like to hear Dr Fung talk about low-dose insulin targeted chemo. Seems like it would lead to unmasking cancer and minimize the evolution of the cancer.
Mind blown 🤘
Indeed. Thanks for dropping by
This needs to be common knowledge. Now.
16:14 - This topic is interesting... talking about today's BCRA genes being different than your mom's BCRA genes. This is where differences in the environment over generations lead to epigenetic changes in our DNA... it's really fascinating!
Fascinating! I have a friend who was treated for bladder cancer with Coley's erysipelas approach (1:03). They injected live tuberculosis bacteria into his bladder. His immune system mobilized to attack the tuberculosis bacterium, but also effectively whacked the cancer cells. Magic! And no, he didn't go on to develop TB: the TB bacterium is mutated to infect your lungs; it won't travel from bladder to lungs & infect you there.'
I wish they could use this approach for solid tumors elsewhere - breast cancer, for instance.
Big thanks for interviewing Dr. Fung. Why is he seeing this in Cancer? Because "he's not from there." He is NOT an oncologist, indoctrinated & committed to the existing (latest) paradigm of cancer. He's actually a Nephrologist (kidney specialist). Most crucially, he's an open-minded imaginative & curious doctor willing to do something truly exceptional & rare: he's willing to look across the divide between his specialty & others, and take an interest in the overlaps, in what's happening next door.
They are working this angle in lots of cancers. I read about someone being cured of esophageal cancer using the herpes virus. I think this is the next big frontier.
@robinbeers6689 great let's try it's nothing to lose if you are at the end but problem is big pharma is run on turnover first look what happened with Ivamectin so no cure unless it can make money no ethics in big pharma it's all profit then cure
So why can't they use on solid cancers
I loved this content. Jason is always opening up new and interesting ideas.
Jason led me to intermittent fasting and the keto lifestyle.
Now I'm cancer free and I reversed Diabetes. Thank you Dr. Fung.
Just diagnosed with Breast Cancer. Carnivore and Fasting here I come.
Wishing you the best! Please keep us updated!
@@user-sx6eu4rg2x thank you. ♥️🙏
I’m thinking you meant herbivore and not carnivore…
I'm 16 years past a breast cancer diagnosis and still kicking. Keto then carnivore is the way I did it. I do OMAD fasting daily.
I’m sorry. Add these: Hyperbaric oxygen. Sauna. Get the Keto Mojo.
Thank you both so much.
I am currently doing TNT for stage 2 rectal cancer. As a 54 year old “healthy” woman who has worked out with weights for the past 4 years and “ate right” I was devastated. But my question is, if cancer loves lactic acid, am I doing more harm than good by continuing to work out? I am hoping for a CCR since my tumor is very low and very close to the anus. Surgery for me = colostomy, which I am trying to avoid at all costs with the OPRAH trial.
Amazing! A tour de force of the new world of cancer cures! Bless you!!! No more drugs!
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Mind blown
It was interesting that when Dr Sanjay mentioned Dr Seyfried’s emphasis on mitochondrial damage as a hallmark in all cancers, Dr Fung appeared ready to discuss the topic but Dr Sanjay blew right it?
it's in the previous episode with dr seyfried! we already bled 20 mins over everything was so good in this episode what possibly could I have not had included from this episode to make space for the other 😭😭😭
@@sanjayjuneja5241 Of course, there is no sense in repeating the Seyfried video here, Dr. Sanjay. Like Joe Suboleski, I did have the impression that Dr Fung was sympathetic to Seyfried's view that cancer begins with damage to the mitochondria. I'd love to hear Dr Fung's reaction sometime. Maybe you could invite them both back one day to discuss or debate this idea.
@adamweiner2746 it would be nice to hear more about what specifically helps build mitochondria health once you already have cancer. Of course fasting helps... but I think copper and magnesium are super important.
I didn’t have the impression that Fung was completely sympathetic to Seyfried’s damaged mitochondria paradigm. If I’m not mistaken, Fung makes a statement in The Cancer Code, that many cancers have normally functioning mitochondria.
Damaged mitochondria may be one of the selective pressures that Fung speaks of, but not the only one.
IMO Seyfried’s view of cancer is a little simplistic (with all due respect to him, I like his work). Listening to him, one might think that all cancers use either glucose or glycogen for fuel. He says, cancers can’t use ketones. But this isn’t 100% the case, based on my reading. If memory serves (and the older I get, the LESS it does 😆), approximately 80% of cancers use glucose as their fuel, but SOME cancers CAN use ketones for fuel. This doesn’t by any means invalidate Warburg’s observation but to me it means that the whole matter of cancer cell metabolism is somewhat more complicated and nuanced than I hear Seyfried making it out to be.
@@compassionplease7380 Some can use some ketones but very few and not enough to thrive a wreak havoc.
Why is it that cells of one organ type cannot live in the proximity of other organs? If they have gone rogue already then what's stopping them?
This guy is a gem 💎 I just found out a friend of mine has leukaemia- in you opinion, would intermittent fasting and elimination of sugar be a positive step for her?
Yes. And cut out all seed oils too.
Can’t hurt to add this to her treatment plan!!
Jason, is the metastasised cancer cell capable of mitosis. Does it move only after it becoming unable to devide? Is this an escape trigger?
What's the cronic damage in case of breast cancer?
So I had breast cancer in 2003/04 and 16 years later I had fallopian tube cancer. It wasn’t in pill right before the second cancer that I found out that I have the Braca2 gene. So in my case, what caused the cancer?? hi insulin or hyper insulinemia/high glucose/way over abundance of sugar or the BRCA2 gene.. I’m guessing the BRCA2 gene and then, because I have insulinemia, way too much sugar and so on that that’s just fed it. How does that sound???
Testosterone patch caused gynecomastia (golf ball size in 3 months in left breast), I suspect on many veterans, as I saw them when we were getting breast xrays. about 2006.
Wow.
In relation to metabolic theory, are there any studies that tries to address the reason for cells bypassing apoptosis? It would be powerful to combine metabolic therapy with something that addresses apoptosis.
Look up German New Medicine. Their theory is that all cancers are as a result of a trauma. Breast cancers are related to a traumatic loss, of a job, partner, loved one, for example. The body's immune system turns off the cells ability to stop growing in order for the cells to grow around the 'trauma' to protect the rest of the body. Why else would the body provide the blood supply and food if the cancer wasn't supposed to be there? Resolve the trauma and the immune system deals with the cancer and it goes away. The trauma can be emotional, energetic, environmental/dietary toxins and so on. The problem we have is that we are exposed to more traumas/toxins than the body can cope with. Combine that with cancer treatments that ADD trauma and destroy the immune system, so even if the cancer is removed/killed, it WILL come back because the underlying cause has not been addressed. An interesting theory that makes a lot of sense. Our body is intelligent, it does nothing by accident.
I agree how to do that has anyone any ideas
Any relation to Mushtaque Juneja?
Please bring together Jason Fung and Thomas Seyfried
Thanks for the suggestion!
Oh yes. Please get them together. Two massive minds and equally brilliant educators.
Indeed
What about prostate cancer? Some claim it does not thrive on sugar but thrives on protein and fat. Who should I beleive?
it thrives on casein protein. So keep eating your dairy products and watch it grow. Just google prostate cancer + casein protein. Lot's of scientific research, which is foreign to Fung.
Cancer: cells and organ systems are not synchronised to each other and to circadian and seasonal cycles. Might fasting help? Perhaps it's about timing and light exposure as well.
UVB for vitamin D, sure. UVA for nitric oxide? Blue light for ipRGC (melanopsin cell) entrainment? Far red, infrared for mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase bound water and intramitochondrial melatonin daytime recycling?
Just wondering, if muscle cells ever become a cancer cell. If they don't, is it because of the lactic acids and the protection and sterilization that it provides??
Sanjay it's ironic, you and Jason touched on the possible links between diabetes, obesity and cancer and you're on shot drinking what looks like soda. Please tell me it's not soda.... other than that it was a very interesting conversation.
1:21:21 Tumor Self-seating
To elaborate on Dr. Fung's explanations:
The most ancient genes , having undergone far longer selection, are what are called the most Highly Conserved genes.
Highly conserved means LEAST subject to mutation.
Yes, this means that they would be more likely retained due to mutational and/or epigenetic silencing, would be lethal to the cell, Which, of course, means that :
1. Evolution is NOT completely random, but, as all evolutionary geneticists know, occurs far more commonly at loci where mutation is nonlethal, though as Dr. Fung implies, the repeated selection strips co-operation phenotypic cessation of growth
2. That cessation occurs through sometimes complex cascades of genes - most act upon the activity of other genes, which elaboration would be too extensive for a readable comment. Consider CpG methylation, the most common, and not at all random, silencing process.
Any gene with the CpG and GpC combination confers greater susceptibility to silencing.
To conserve this would not be random in multicellular organisms due to highly increased lethality of mutation.
Genes mutated that change one of these nucleotide variants, may or may not change the protein product the gene produces. Thus, this is not a completely random process, as some nucleotide variants could not produce the same amino acid.
It's too easy to get involved in overelaboration, which would require MDs to return to the pure science of evolutionary genomics, proteomics, and related information.
I had waited the entire 3 hours or so of this discussion to hear of specifics, but only in attempting comment do I realize that well-known processes would involve that lengthy background.
It is not magic, nor completely predetermined, and the alleles commonly called "cancer genes" is also incorrect terminology, though the relevant allelic variations DO induce a higher incidence of cancer, which is , again, not a random effect, but merely stochastic in a selective way.
Stochastic, from Greek for firing arrows at a target, is NOT, then, an identical synonym for random, due to the continual refining occurring through repeated selection.
A succinct discussion would have immediately focused upon evolutionary, epigenetic, repeated selection, and the nature of stochasticity leading to equifinality.
The above discussion traces history for the benefit of MDs, though it may be detrimental to specific understanding of Dr. Fung's excellent development of hypothesis from the clear Yes-No Tables he has included.
The 'Reversion to Unicellular Existence' must not be complete as prostate cancer cells retain their affinity and need for testosterone and generally respond to Androgen Deprivation Therapy(ADT) even in metastasized locations. Also sensitive to certain targeted indicators in PET scans.
I have started reading "The Cancer Code".
This is so fascinating. The way that genes are explained here is like computer code.
In programming, additional layers of code negate the effects of previous layers such as telling the program when to stop when it reaches a certain point.
If the newer layers of code such as the ones that tell the program to stop at a certain point can't be executed because some parts are missing or entire sections become deleted, the program will just execute the original lines of code that are still there without stopping, eventually causing the computer to crash.
It's so cool to learn about things the closer they resemble something else you're familiar with.
Thank you for your comment. Dr. Fung is indeed a great teacher. We're glad you found the information helpful.
PET scan would be a better screen, imho
My mother Stopped Chemo on her lung cancer after TWO treatments and she got better… 2 years later a hospital killed her with a rejected pacemaker she didn’t need after she fell and broke her hip but her cancer was not worse…
What is the chronic damage to the breast??
Maybe having non-natural hormones in milk and other dairy would affect what goes on in the breast which is naturally very sensitive to hormones.
Does taking supplements and herbs that lower chronic inflammation cause the immune system to work less effectively against cancer?
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How many hours should we fast???
Feel free to watch Dr. Fung's videos on fasting. He has a channel on TH-cam.
Polish Academy of Sciences devled into this evolutional theory of cancer in 70s of XX century. It lead to dead end and didn't help to treat cancer. I think theory of damaged mitochondrion is much more promising.
Good talk ..confirms why I've always suspected that is we all have cancer cells but they never go anywhere until you are old . Folks can even have benign tumors .. I have one for the last 68 years Why is this ? .. the immune system.. which is the ' repair man' and can contain cancer but gets overwhelmed and tired as we age . Bad lifestyle choices like smoking which causes chronic lung inflammation and increases the load on the immune system to repair the daily damage . Many cancers are in the epithelial cells or lining cells which are the exposed to the environment .. like smoking , radiation and excess food and poor diets etc .One could say that the REAL reason we die is the immune system was defeated by cancer or covid or a dozen other diseases . After all the reason we don't all die of say smallpox was some of us have strong immune systems . Isn't that how nature culls the herd ?.. it selects on strong immunity .So in many cases the death certificate should really read .. died of failing immune system . Why do babies die ? .. no immune system why do old people die ? poor immune system why do obese people die ? overloaded and poor functioning immune system . Solution? boost the immune system by diet and exercise , no sugar no smoking or overeating , eat only if hungry , reduce the load on the immune system and die of boredom instead .
17:45 Why does cancer exist?
Monsanto's chemical plant in Sauget Illinois!
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Dose Dr Fung knows about Dr Thomas Seyfried's Cancer theory, that cancer it's a metabolic desease??
It very common practice in age old Indian medicine Book called Ayurveda written more than 5000 years. My mother got typioid in her childhood and she was forced to keep fasting for three week. No food at all. Because she used to live in remote villages 75 yesrs back. Such herbal medical practitioners were available those time in villages. So this nobel finding is not new for us. Deprive the microbes of food. Simple
The story goes deeper. Light Melanin POMC and Leptin. Only then one sees the distruction to the mitochondria is linked to succinate de-hydronase... deuterim isotopes and the TCA cycle. The need to fix problems in cell respirarion and ATP synthese.... fermentation and unability to mitose division. Now they metastasise. Hmmmm
Target cancer, do you still hold on to your previous assumption that the link between sugar and cancer is unsound? THIS is the data we were looking for…
Evolution is bunk. We are as the Creator made us.
And of course being a religious zealot, your mind is closed to all other possibilities, which is why you never try to have a rational conversation with a religious zealot.
I refuse to have another mammogram or colonoscopy…
Very interesting but please know the difference between adaptation and Evolution. It makes my head explode when this simple difference isn’t understood. Darwin made the hypothesis of evolution based upon adaptation which is way older knowledge. The process of adaptation by selection is even written down in 3600 year old text which is found the book of Genesis in the bible.
Proof of selection pressure’s workings was found when we deep inside the rainforests of Africa found markings and pictures of a tribe that lived here 240 000 years ago. This tribe had as a tradition to throw their newborn down a cliff. With time the offspring of the survivors developed wings. These are probably the cause of legends of winged men, and ideas of guardian angles.
A similar thing happened in the deep amazonas where they threw their young into the river. By time the survivors offspring developed fins. In this case it was a backward evolution back toward the Coelacanth. This relationship is why their fins are also bluish int their color. They are the origin of all the merfolk of today.
One thing that all doctors have in common is that their brains are unilaterally organized. That means that their eye dominance is the same as their ear dominance and since those are the two ways of receiving information they are functionally half wits. They do all their thinking out of one brain hemisphere and ignore the other one. Two brains will usually better than one.
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Doc...a question..I read that I should NOT have a no carb diet. Or even low carb. One LICENSED nutritionist went so far as to say I would die. Is there any REAL science to prove this??
Any diet must be done with professional supervision and adjusted if necessary according to the individual needs and health situation. Follow your doctor's instructions. You can learn more about Dr. Fung on his channel: www.youtube.com/@drjasonfung/
Real answer is no.
@@TargetCancer disagree. 13 years ago I recovered from agressive bladder cancer thanks to a change in diet and nutrition with no professional supervision. My body, my responsibility, my decision.
there is NOT one single solitary carbohydrate essential to life……..
@TargetCancer my question was... was there any findings to support this UK licensed nutritionist position
well done dr fung. trying to explain to a "specialist" how "unspecial" he unfortunately is. Dr Sanjay is equally aware of his failings. How can one be sure? Turn off the sound and watch Dr Sanjay body language and facial expressions the entire last 1/2 of the presentation. It is a silent video of the definition of "cognitive dissonance". It is indeed difficult to overcome one's entire CV. Best of luck.
Islam encourages Muslims to fast every week Monday and Thursday as well as during the 13th, 14th, 15th of each lunar month.
Type 2 is a nutritional deficiency. Chromium and vanadium and trace minerals
Stop studying genes , start looking at mitocondria and metobolics. Starving cancer with fat and ketones.. Read dr Seyfried from Boston
Hey Doc...go back in 5 years and review your statement at timestamp 35:32 . You will find he was right, Otto was right. It is the damage to the microbiome. Can you get a refund on your medical education??
Jeez, please allow ur guest to speak😮
Hope you can test autophagy in all prisoners in third world.
Third world prisoners. Do you think it is a racist comment?
Reprehensible
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Why not if autophagy can help the prisoners live longer
Don’t say “My name is Doctor…”. Doctor is a title, not part of your name …
I believe God created everything can listen any more this rubbish
The host needs to take "like" out of his vocabulary. It just sounds really bad and hard to listen to.
Maybe I missed it, but where does the video talk about intermittent fasting?
This is part 2 of a 2-part interview. Please make sure to watch both parts.
Ok