Shifted to YT Music a couple of years now. And loving it since. Yes, for the most part, Spotify is better, but I can't complain as YT Music is bundled with YT Premium, so I couldn't complain more.
Thanks for making the comparison! Your criticisms are definitely valid. I personally still love TH-cam Music, though. They've been adding new features and making UI/UX improvements (some questionable ones, too). I wish we could have a crossfade feature like spotify (surprised you didn't mention this). Also, a public API would do wonders for the development community and open the doors for cool third-party products.
valid criticisms but i'll still go for YTMusic all day long just because of the infinite library it has thanks to its integration with TH-cam itself. It's something no other platform will ever match. also the fact that i'm paying 2 services for the price of one is a no brainer.
My big plus for YTM over any other platform is that my playlists that I have been accumulating over the years exist automatically on YTM, and I do not have to go through the effort of finding all the music on other platforms to put together the massive playlists I have.
-But... why do you care so much?- *EDIT:* Nevermind I'm a dumbass. I thought this comment was asking Ken to drop the MyAnimeList off of the description, as if it was already there. Which it isn't. I thought it was someone being irrationally bothered by someone putting the animes they liked in the description but turns out I just suck at reading. So yeah, I support this, I guess? Don't see anything wrong with it. :p
You were spot on with all of this. I have been using YT Music for a year or so now, and I agreed with every point made in the video. When I needed to cut costs on things, I found out YT Music was included with Premium, so cutting off Spotify was the easy choice to make. I do miss having Spotify though just because I've had that account for 10+ years at this point, so the recommendations were actually good. Having to start all that over with YT Music really sucks.
Since this is a series now, looking forward to Amazon Music comparison! I've been using amazon music because I have a "big family" but had a lot of frustrations. Would be interested to see how it compares to other paid services. Also something that sets TH-cam music apart from it's competitors that it inherited from Google Play Music days (and I made a lot of use of) is that you can upload your own library to it and use it as a free streaming platform if you curate your own library. Easier than trying to setup your own cloud service but not without downsides (tracks get re-encoded, not all metadata kept, etc.)
As someone who can't afford any premium versions of music streaming platforms, I find TH-cam Music to be the best for me, I don't want to listen to 120 seconds of ads every few songs, give me 5 seconds and I'll skip it, I hate that Spotify adds songs to your created playlists if you don't have premium, it makes playlists obsolete
As a YTPremium sub when it comes to YT Music, I use it a lot for music I know I won’t be able to find on Spotify. Another aspect is mashups. Since mashups are definitely not a thing unless they’re more or less covers of songs mashed up.
I recently got TH-cam Premium and I'm really happy with the audio quality of TH-cam Music! It has more bass and clarity compared to Spotify. I don't think I can go back now and the ad free experience on the TH-cam app is such a major plus.
I admittedly dont watch this channel as much as I should, but when I do I just want to say the production quality is off the charts! I love how well you present your thoughts, the transitions, and even the graphics, as well as the video quality of like say you using the app while walking around! Keep kicking butt!
I just switched to TH-cam Music a few days ago and it’s quite nice. It’s not perfect, far from it but the audio quality is really good and since it’s TH-cam, there’s an endless amount of music. I doubt they’ll ever change the UI of the app and make it more like Apple Music and Spotify since it’s been so long since it’s release, but I’m hopeful
You forgot to mention that you can upload your own content to TH-cam music, which is a really nice feature for me that have lots of cds and some artists is not on any digital platforms. Also the one thing I like about Spotify is they have folders for much easier organizing big music collections, really miss that on TH-cam music as well as a fast desktop app as Spotify has for fast Scroll through large playlists. Try scrolling to the end of a big 5000 songs playlist, Spotify 1 second, TH-cam music like 1 day 😅
Interestingly, the YTM free tier is what made me start using it. The ability to play whatever I wanted and skip as many times as I wanted was a huge draw. I mostly listened in my car or at my desk anyway, so I was either driving or using my computer. So having to keep the app open wasn't a big deal to me. YTM definitely is not perfect. The metadata issues need a lot of resolving. Even officially uploaded tracks and albums sometimes have some incorrect names or track orders. I've even seen bands' albums divided between 2-3 separate artist listings, or even incorrect albums from a band with the same name all lumped together. But overall, YTM definitely fits me the best. I love how good the recommendations usually are. And the way it decides what songs to play next when I just throw on a song is really good usually.
As someone who only want to listen only a few songs here and there, and the fact it came included with TH-cam Premium make this an easy choice for me. Basically just a "good enough" option to listen official songs directly from the source.
Honestly the feature that sold YT music for me, is the feature you didn't include. Personal cloud storage. Imagine you have some old songs which youtube doesn't have a license to anymore, but you have bought them on cd or itunes, while the rest of your music library is on YT music. It works similarly to Spotify's local library except you can take it with you, anywhere, and don't need a pc for it to work. There's a limit to 100 songs but i find it fine as for me, it's mostly for the music which doesn't get sourced to my country and it's stuff i have gotten imported instead. I have 2 chinese songs from a chinese "anime" (it's 3d but fits in style with anime) and the copyright holder is so aggressive that not even random uploaders can let it be available as videos. So i bought them through a proxy and got them sent to me. Now i have them available on YT music forever, without having to worry about them getting removed due to the license having expired.
i wish YTM was like apple music when it comes to this (because its pretty much just itunes). I dont like the seperation that YTM does for uploaded music. The only way i can shuffle all my music (stuff in library and uploads) is to make sure its all downloaded since it creates an automatic playlist for downloaded music. I also dont like that you cant edit songs (like track name, ect.). It would make my library way more organized if i could.
I’ve used TH-cam Music//google play music for years and I absolutely love it I was very annoyed when I had to move over to TH-cam music from google play music because the UI sucked but now that I’m used to it I don’t mind it It still sucks but I personally like it more than Spotify
Hey Denki, great video. I believe you hit the mark with your pros and cons. Hey, I was wondering if you mentioned in any video, Spotify’s “Smart Shuffle”? I personally love this feature for one of my playlists in particular. It really puts in fitting music to the type of songs I have. To me it feels like Pandora with unlimited skips but with better recommendations and without paying their price.
imo the most thing i miss when i switched from spotify to youtube music was the multi device support with some universal control shenanigan. i loved playing the music from my tv speaker and control it via my phone. also youtube sometimes cant stream both video and music at the same time, so whenever someone uses my account on the tv down stairs, my music on my room would just stop and asked me if i want to prioritized playing it from my tv or whatever gadget i use to play music, which is very infuriating considering both playing different types of media
A big pro that was glossed over here is the ability to upload your own library of music to the platform. This was vaguely touched on in the cons section without any mention of how nice it is to just add the music you want to hear if you already have it downloaded or ripped. Apple own The Beatles library so my only chance to listen to it on YT Music is by uploading my own or trying to find it through TH-cam proper which can be a headache with certain artists.
@@antftwx After checking the history it seems Apple Corp technically doesn't own it either, McCartney and Sony own the rights. I had thought Apple Inc. had made some deal with them a while back, but that was just to bring their music to the iTunes platform in 2010. I was definitely wrong on that aspect. The example is still valid given the context. There is a plethora of music options that someone might not have access to for one reason or another on a chosen platform. Having the option to upload tracks is huge for that.
I upload my music library to my apple music too and is just as easy and i can then download it on any of my devices I’ve logged in so it’s not expensive to youtube ig
I don't mind youtube music as it comes with youtube premium. My two biggest problems is that sometimes it likes to pull censored versions of songs despite the fact I have the setting to allow uncensored songs on and It's Viewer discretion is advised pop up on certain artist. You can't stop that pop up from coming up as far as I have seen and it pauses the music. So far I've only found one artist with that on there and it's rage against the machine.
TH-cam Music interface is crap indeed (could be easily solved with a redesign and update, though), but I have it because it came bundled with TH-cam Premium (can't stand ads) 🤷🏻 It also lets me download the videos I use for sleep, so I'm not constantly hogging the wifi for 8+ hours.
I agree that TH-cam music's interface is trash, but after some time you'll get used to it. As a person who doesn't use Apple music on a daily basis, i think that its interface is somehow even worse... So a lot comes down to what layout you're used to. In my opinion: song avaliability >>> better layout/making sure artist gets compensated (if a particular song is not avaliable on any other platform, the artist won't get my money anyway, so what's the difference to him xd) But at the end of the day, everyone has to decide for themselves
As far as interface and the artist pay issue, I understand, but for someone trying to cut costs, everyone in my family gets yt and yt music premium for one price. Spotify can't even touch that. There's also the benefit of the radio tuning that just got added that you didn't touch on. I wish you would have hit on more of the cool features they both have.
Everything is a fair point honestly. All the same gripes and drawbacks, but also benefit (love you showing Suisei's Phony). Honestly, it is difficult to evaluate YT Music independently since subscription to it is basically a YT Premium subscription. I am a YT Premium subscriber foremost, so I just think of YT Music as just extras, maybe using if I kinda want to listen to Risu's KING sometime.
I travel a lot for work and found myself enjoying both. I use Spotify for downloading albums and podcasts for offline use while in the air but find myself using YT Music to download concerts (video game symphony music) as well as YT videos in general. For me having both fits but were I not a traveler then I'd probably just stick with Spotify or even the dreaded Apple Music. I recently switched over to a full Apple Ecosystem and am finding it hard to want to move to Apple Music so for now I'll continue waiving the two preferred banners. Love your content btw.
I personally install the web app from Chrome in Windows in place of a stand alone application and pin the icon to the taskbar. I don't personally see the need of YT Music to compile a standalone application when it's web app is so good on it's own.
When will they get Hi-FI/lossless? They lag behind Tidal, Amazon, Apple, and some people like me want to switch but am not going to sacrifice quality for simply a new feel.
YTM is really slow on my laptop. maybe people say it's my laptop's fault. I don't think so. Spotify moves fast af without problem. this is one of the reasons why I prefer spotify over YTM.
last year I moved my playlist from Spotify to TH-cam Music using soundiiz, and man I was surprised when I saw so many unknown uploader (not the original artist)
It's ok-ish, can't integrate it on Alexa for example, the algorithm is a bit dumb repeating the same songs over and over, but you have TH-cam with no ads and music so it's a dealll
My biggest annoyance with YT music is that its directly connected to your regular YT account. So if i subscribe or like anything in YT music, it appears in regular YT. I dont want that. I dont want to my subscription feed on YT to be cluttered by bands i like. Nor i dont want my liked music be mixed with liked videos. I wish there was a seperation with an option to integrate what you what.
As someone who uses TH-cam Music because I have premium, I very much enjoy it. Every good point youve pointed out I’m all for. On my PC I just have the main YT Music home page saved as a web app cause the UI is fine for me. Also good to see the goddess Suisei in the videos!
i think its worth pointing out that apple music come with cloud library, since apple music technically comes with itunes match. this means you get free storage for up to 100,000 200mb 256kbps aac audio tracks, whuich doesn't come out of your icloud storage. so you can download your favourite youtube or soundcloud tracks and upload them to listen to all the super indie underground stuff that people go on youtube and soundcloud for. this feature caused me to leave youtube music. of course, you can also use classic usb or wifi sync if you have an iphone and forego the cloud storage entirely, but it's definitely very convenient this way
For students plan yt premium costs around a dollar, for that price it also giving the ad free music service too, so I’m using it, rather spend more on Spotify over yt premium. If i don’t need yt premium videos, I’ll use Spotify over yt music
I dont pay for a service that will and can push advertice im my face even if i pay for it. The "kick out and forced login" on YT premium isnt offline. Its always online DRM. Not ok. If i pay for a service that will allow me to download media for offline use i wont accept being forced to login to view it. Its not ok. A addon that will push the "yes" button when it show up on YT is free and i would recommend such a addon. It cost 0$ and it works fine.
I am one of those people who's just too lazy to compile a playlist by myself. I just want to pick a song and let the algorithm take me to God knows where 😂 Because of this, I find that TH-cam Music's recommendations algorithm is so much suited for my needs. I'm very picky with my songs, so, more often than not, I don't like to explore new songs, especially if it's too different with what I usually listen to. YT Music's algorithm reads my pattern whenever I play a certain song (kinda creepy if we're talking about data privacy, but hey it works for me). For instance, if I play a J Pop song, they usually play similar songs that I have played before when I am in that J-Pop mood and associate other songs that I play along with that song (e.g. 1st song is YOASOBI this, 2nd YOASOBI that, 3rd is Yama this, then whenever I play one of those songs, the other two songs will be added in the queue automatically + new songs that are similar to those, but can be hit or miss). And if it's other genres or another "set of songs that I usually play together", then the algorithm will adjust to that mood that I'm currently on when I just picked a song and not a whole playlist. If we're talking about data, yes it is kind of scary, and if we're talking about discovering new songs, yes maybe Spotify is better, but because I like to stay in my comfort zone most of the time when I'm listening to music, this works! And that initial comfort can persuade me into listening new similar music, sometimes even without me noticing.
One thing I will say about youtube music is that it's algorithm is LEAGUES ahead of spotify. Whenever my preselected tacks end, spotify almost always plays something I don't like. It would always play something in the same genre, but never an artist I actually enjoyed listening to. TH-cam music, on the other hand, almost always knows exactly what's up my alley. It has only missed once by showing me NF after a Post Malone album.
Sui-chan approved. Gonna stick with TH-cam Music to save some money. Just have to familiarise myself into this clunky UI since Spotify done it way better.
so back in the we had google play music which is still leagues better than youtube music. Its honestly such a travesty they shutdown google play music for something this is like a turd in comparison. that said as someone that jumps between services a lot i do usually end up back on google play music.
Hello. I also have TH-cam Music but for me, the order is Apple Music then Spotify then Pandora then TH-cam Music (then TuneIn, IHeartRadio, Deezer, LiveOne previously Slacker, SoundCloud, etc.). I believe things got worse for this music app specifically after the switch from Google Play Music (which is actually the offspring after Google bought Songza, one of my faves all time). I miss Songza…
I love YT Music mostly because I have found so much new music based on my likes. The UI is meh I’ll give you that and shuffle really sucks it feels like I always get the same songs in the same order. Overall I can’t find myself paying for another streaming service when it’s included with premium.
Before watching this video, I will input my thoughts. My thoughts are that I can pay for TH-cam premium and get TH-cam music, which is comparable to Spotify premium, as well. This means that for a cheaper price, I can get no ads on TH-cam and also TH-cam music with no ads. It is all around better value. Also it works more seamlessly
from deezer, to spotify, to yt music. now im back on spotify and will stay for the most part.. I exclusively use it on my car only and the simplicity of spotify and its algorithim is what got me
3:53 well to be fair the spotify desktop app is an electron app so it's almost no different from opening it on the browser and it's still pretty much eating up a lot of ram
Ive been using YT Music for about 2 years but then stop. The reason being the app freezing up and not loading my downloads. It might of been of my old phone because it was a samsung galaxy A5 2017. But i got a new phone so im going back to using yt music. If you do have a youtube membership its still a good deal. The only thing that i'll complain about is your playlists from YT show up there. I wish there was an option to only have your playlists that are on YT music.
I personally wouldn't use either of them and it's entirely a "to each their own" scenario I've got more than enough local storage for my CD rips (from CD's I totally own and didn't overpay for) plus the side loaded sony walkman app makes browsing and navigating quite nice especially since my phone didn't come with a music player app..... thanks google.
TH-cam music biggest problem is a just don't market it well when you include TH-cam premium with TH-cam music no ads it's completely better than Spotify or any other music service. All the issues ken is bringing up are with the app are because the app is still learning i dont have any these problems
I don’t really understand the love for Spotify. It is a decent app with decent music selection and UI. For me personally, it is not great. I have used the premium version of Spotify and TH-cam Music, and I found them both to not be as good as Apple Music. With Apple Music, I always find some thing I want to listen to right away. I even still have iHeartRadio and Pandora. As well as a bunch of other apps that I have tried over the years. I end up going to Spotify for Podcasts, but not for music. I use TH-cam music for searching and playing songs that way, I do not mess up my spot on algorithm that I have developed in Apple Music. Apple Music is my go to app for the gym because I am not sitting there skipping songs the whole time. As much as I go to the gym, I end up going more to listen to music while I’m working out, than looking at it the other way around. So the music Hass to be good enough not to change. I just can’t seem to do that on Spotify even with the personal DJ. TH-cam. TH-cam music seems to be even worse at it. But I don’t really pay for TH-cam music. It is just included with my TH-cam premium subscription. If I ever had to pay for it separately, I would just not. Unless the algorithm was a lot better at finding music that I want to listen to. Especially new music.
I definitely disagree with your complaints about TH-cam Music. I definitely like Spotify and I had Spotify for years. But a while back I switched to TH-cam Music and I think it's better. Spotify has become so convoluted especially when they incorporated a TikTok feed. You mentioned how bad you think the home screen is on TH-cam Music but completely left out that Spotify is home screen is much worse. I used to really love Spotify but it's just become way too convoluted. Especially the home screen.
I get Apple Music with my phone plan, which is cool but I still pay for YT Music just because of the integration with TH-cam itself and to add literally anything to your playlists - Not my favourite UI experience though
The free version of TH-cam music is better than the free version of Spotify music first of all TH-cam music has higher bitrate on the free version and you do not have shuffle like on Spotify that's a deal-breaker for me you could choose which song you want to play on TH-cam music going to have to choose TH-cam music yes the interface is different but it's fine
After a few years on spotify, im on the edge for TH-cam music. But i feel like its still worth it to wait a few years. Feel like it'll take over in a ew years tho
Trying to love YT music. Buggy compared to Apple especially on CarPlay, but it's free with YT Premium so that's what I'm using. It's amazing for finding new things though
I think you were to hard on TH-cam Music. I really like the interface and because I use Arc Browser on my Mac it's okay for me without a desktop app, but I totally understand that it's unnecessary clutter in the browser. But for me, who doesnt listen a lot of playlist and just randomly pick a song from the start page YT Music is great
Since I have 2 devices at home, TH-cam music really isn’t a bother with having the screen on since I’m doing something else on the other phone anyways. But I understand with the screen off Spotify is better in this instance, but the free version only allows shuffle play on songs you actually want to hear, maybe for some it’s not a big deal, but for me It kinda is a dealbreaker. So TH-cam Music sorta fixes it. But Spotify is better with premium. But at home TH-cam music just makes more sense, if you have multiple phones that is.
I used YT premium for students for two months, its not bad. But the UI is pretty meh I enjoy the fact that I can search up music that are covered by tons of people easily. But I hate the fact that some like music overrides? Or just in general get piled up with my like songs playlist. If YT improves this somehow and clean up their UI they will get me to switch to YT easily.
Spotify I swear is the G.O.A.T of music apps. While YT Music u can't stream music on the back ground, unless u have YT Music premium. So my recommendation is gonna be Spotify, BUUUUT the choice is yours ☺️
I like YTM alot but my problem with it is, they're not very organized. They don't keep all heir albums and artist in one place and its hard to put things in alpabetical order. I still prefer Spotify because of that.
the only thing I don't like about YT Music is that it doesn't let you turn off videos completely for free and it doesn't let you sort the songs in the playlists alphabetically
I gotta say that I think you were way too hard on YTMusic well maybe too hard on a specific thing that you care about which is something I never even think about. I would mention how hard it can be to find new albums on date of release and the lack of fun list that Spotify allows plugins to access and create.
I think normal YT is more better then YT Music 🤔, like some music is not available on the music app that is on YT, i suppose Also true as mostly YT just keep repeating the same type of song's when you want to explore new genre or artist
Now that I'm using YT Premium, the single thing that is preventing me from switching from Spotify is Shazam. Every song that I find there can easily be tracked on Shazam. Google already has a very good feature like this but I don't want to ask Google to find the song, I just want it to do it.
I love the package deal with YT Music and YT Premium being only in one payment. But I do agree with the clunkiness of the system and I hard agree with the idea that there should be desktop app for YT music. Google please make one!
Shifted to YT Music a couple of years now. And loving it since. Yes, for the most part, Spotify is better, but I can't complain as YT Music is bundled with YT Premium, so I couldn't complain more.
TH-cam music sound quality gives you cancer. Stop it. Get some help
@@AK4SHGaming the music app you’re currently subscribed on seems to give you brain damage. Get some help
No, it's Okay. Not everyone is a hi-fi fanatic, so get over it.@@AK4SHGaming
@@AK4SHGaming although as an spotify user, apple music has lossless music thats what attracts me for buying
Thanks for making the comparison! Your criticisms are definitely valid.
I personally still love TH-cam Music, though. They've been adding new features and making UI/UX improvements (some questionable ones, too).
I wish we could have a crossfade feature like spotify (surprised you didn't mention this). Also, a public API would do wonders for the development community and open the doors for cool third-party products.
valid criticisms but i'll still go for YTMusic all day long just because of the infinite library it has thanks to its integration with TH-cam itself. It's something no other platform will ever match. also the fact that i'm paying 2 services for the price of one is a no brainer.
I think finding music on TH-cam that is not available anywhere else is by itself a pro that makes the platform on par or better than other platforms
My big plus for YTM over any other platform is that my playlists that I have been accumulating over the years exist automatically on YTM, and I do not have to go through the effort of finding all the music on other platforms to put together the massive playlists I have.
Day 2 of asking Ken to drop his MyAnimeList in his description.
-But... why do you care so much?-
*EDIT:* Nevermind I'm a dumbass. I thought this comment was asking Ken to drop the MyAnimeList off of the description, as if it was already there. Which it isn't. I thought it was someone being irrationally bothered by someone putting the animes they liked in the description but turns out I just suck at reading.
So yeah, I support this, I guess? Don't see anything wrong with it. :p
@@AtPlumeyes
He doesn't care, he's just an attention seeker waiting for Ken to respond to him and give him the attention he seeks
I support this effort. Ken seems like someone with great taste.
Boku no pico
You were spot on with all of this. I have been using YT Music for a year or so now, and I agreed with every point made in the video. When I needed to cut costs on things, I found out YT Music was included with Premium, so cutting off Spotify was the easy choice to make. I do miss having Spotify though just because I've had that account for 10+ years at this point, so the recommendations were actually good. Having to start all that over with YT Music really sucks.
Since this is a series now, looking forward to Amazon Music comparison! I've been using amazon music because I have a "big family" but had a lot of frustrations. Would be interested to see how it compares to other paid services.
Also something that sets TH-cam music apart from it's competitors that it inherited from Google Play Music days (and I made a lot of use of) is that you can upload your own library to it and use it as a free streaming platform if you curate your own library. Easier than trying to setup your own cloud service but not without downsides (tracks get re-encoded, not all metadata kept, etc.)
We just need to have a video ranking the best of the best 😃 I'd definitely would love to watch something like that.
I’ll never forgive google for killing play music and making listening to your own uploaded library so god damn difficult in youtube music
It's really not that difficult
As someone who can't afford any premium versions of music streaming platforms, I find TH-cam Music to be the best for me, I don't want to listen to 120 seconds of ads every few songs, give me 5 seconds and I'll skip it, I hate that Spotify adds songs to your created playlists if you don't have premium, it makes playlists obsolete
This is the main reason I use TH-cam
As a YTPremium sub when it comes to YT Music, I use it a lot for music I know I won’t be able to find on Spotify. Another aspect is mashups. Since mashups are definitely not a thing unless they’re more or less covers of songs mashed up.
I recently got TH-cam Premium and I'm really happy with the audio quality of TH-cam Music! It has more bass and clarity compared to Spotify. I don't think I can go back now and the ad free experience on the TH-cam app is such a major plus.
I admittedly dont watch this channel as much as I should, but when I do I just want to say the production quality is off the charts! I love how well you present your thoughts, the transitions, and even the graphics, as well as the video quality of like say you using the app while walking around!
Keep kicking butt!
I just switched to TH-cam Music a few days ago and it’s quite nice. It’s not perfect, far from it but the audio quality is really good and since it’s TH-cam, there’s an endless amount of music. I doubt they’ll ever change the UI of the app and make it more like Apple Music and Spotify since it’s been so long since it’s release, but I’m hopeful
You forgot to mention that you can upload your own content to TH-cam music, which is a really nice feature for me that have lots of cds and some artists is not on any digital platforms. Also the one thing I like about Spotify is they have folders for much easier organizing big music collections, really miss that on TH-cam music as well as a fast desktop app as Spotify has for fast Scroll through large playlists. Try scrolling to the end of a big 5000 songs playlist, Spotify 1 second, TH-cam music like 1 day 😅
both trash
Cds are better
Compact Disc>>>>>>>>>>>>>>garbage youtube music spoitfy
Interestingly, the YTM free tier is what made me start using it. The ability to play whatever I wanted and skip as many times as I wanted was a huge draw. I mostly listened in my car or at my desk anyway, so I was either driving or using my computer. So having to keep the app open wasn't a big deal to me.
YTM definitely is not perfect. The metadata issues need a lot of resolving. Even officially uploaded tracks and albums sometimes have some incorrect names or track orders. I've even seen bands' albums divided between 2-3 separate artist listings, or even incorrect albums from a band with the same name all lumped together.
But overall, YTM definitely fits me the best. I love how good the recommendations usually are. And the way it decides what songs to play next when I just throw on a song is really good usually.
I've had the opposite experience. Whenever YTM autoplays music, it plays the most outlandish music I have ever heard
I think TH-cam will see this video and *probably* fix the issues you mentioned. Other than that. I think you were quite fair with YT Music.
TH-cam music will never be as good as Google music back in the day, I miss Google music totally.
Why they stop it ?
@@kh91132 Because of TH-cam Music
As someone who only want to listen only a few songs here and there, and the fact it came included with TH-cam Premium make this an easy choice for me. Basically just a "good enough" option to listen official songs directly from the source.
Honestly the feature that sold YT music for me, is the feature you didn't include. Personal cloud storage.
Imagine you have some old songs which youtube doesn't have a license to anymore, but you have bought them on cd or itunes, while the rest of your music library is on YT music. It works similarly to Spotify's local library except you can take it with you, anywhere, and don't need a pc for it to work. There's a limit to 100 songs but i find it fine as for me, it's mostly for the music which doesn't get sourced to my country and it's stuff i have gotten imported instead.
I have 2 chinese songs from a chinese "anime" (it's 3d but fits in style with anime) and the copyright holder is so aggressive that not even random uploaders can let it be available as videos. So i bought them through a proxy and got them sent to me. Now i have them available on YT music forever, without having to worry about them getting removed due to the license having expired.
The limit is actually 100,000 and you don’t even need a subscription which is awesome.
@@gcole6 100k? Must have changed it since i last uploaded then
@@Saibanaito back when it was Google play Music, it was 50K, but now it’s higher. It’s always been a large number though.
i wish YTM was like apple music when it comes to this (because its pretty much just itunes). I dont like the seperation that YTM does for uploaded music. The only way i can shuffle all my music (stuff in library and uploads) is to make sure its all downloaded since it creates an automatic playlist for downloaded music. I also dont like that you cant edit songs (like track name, ect.). It would make my library way more organized if i could.
I’ve used TH-cam Music//google play music for years and I absolutely love it I was very annoyed when I had to move over to TH-cam music from google play music because the UI sucked but now that I’m used to it I don’t mind it
It still sucks but I personally like it more than Spotify
Hey Denki, great video. I believe you hit the mark with your pros and cons. Hey, I was wondering if you mentioned in any video, Spotify’s “Smart Shuffle”? I personally love this feature for one of my playlists in particular. It really puts in fitting music to the type of songs I have. To me it feels like Pandora with unlimited skips but with better recommendations and without paying their price.
imo the most thing i miss when i switched from spotify to youtube music was the multi device support with some universal control shenanigan. i loved playing the music from my tv speaker and control it via my phone. also youtube sometimes cant stream both video and music at the same time, so whenever someone uses my account on the tv down stairs, my music on my room would just stop and asked me if i want to prioritized playing it from my tv or whatever gadget i use to play music, which is very infuriating considering both playing different types of media
A big pro that was glossed over here is the ability to upload your own library of music to the platform. This was vaguely touched on in the cons section without any mention of how nice it is to just add the music you want to hear if you already have it downloaded or ripped. Apple own The Beatles library so my only chance to listen to it on YT Music is by uploading my own or trying to find it through TH-cam proper which can be a headache with certain artists.
The Apple that owns The Beatles catalog is not the same Apple that makes iPhones. Their songs are most definitely available on YT Music.
@@antftwx After checking the history it seems Apple Corp technically doesn't own it either, McCartney and Sony own the rights. I had thought Apple Inc. had made some deal with them a while back, but that was just to bring their music to the iTunes platform in 2010. I was definitely wrong on that aspect.
The example is still valid given the context. There is a plethora of music options that someone might not have access to for one reason or another on a chosen platform. Having the option to upload tracks is huge for that.
I upload my music library to my apple music too and is just as easy and i can then download it on any of my devices I’ve logged in so it’s not expensive to youtube ig
Yuck...
The Beetles...
Thanks TH-cam I don't need to hear the Beetles.
I don't mind youtube music as it comes with youtube premium. My two biggest problems is that sometimes it likes to pull censored versions of songs despite the fact I have the setting to allow uncensored songs on and It's Viewer discretion is advised pop up on certain artist. You can't stop that pop up from coming up as far as I have seen and it pauses the music. So far I've only found one artist with that on there and it's rage against the machine.
TH-cam Music interface is crap indeed (could be easily solved with a redesign and update, though), but I have it because it came bundled with TH-cam Premium (can't stand ads) 🤷🏻 It also lets me download the videos I use for sleep, so I'm not constantly hogging the wifi for 8+ hours.
I agree that TH-cam music's interface is trash, but after some time you'll get used to it. As a person who doesn't use Apple music on a daily basis, i think that its interface is somehow even worse...
So a lot comes down to what layout you're used to.
In my opinion: song avaliability >>> better layout/making sure artist gets compensated (if a particular song is not avaliable on any other platform, the artist won't get my money anyway, so what's the difference to him xd)
But at the end of the day, everyone has to decide for themselves
Mainly i use YT for music as there are many songs/music not available on Spotify.
I can also use Spotify but now already have 4.5k+ Playlist on YT
spot on assessment of yt music. I want to try spotify but the value is just too good
I'm commenting this before I watch the video. I use YT music because I get YT premium with it. Now, back to the video.
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As far as interface and the artist pay issue, I understand, but for someone trying to cut costs, everyone in my family gets yt and yt music premium for one price. Spotify can't even touch that. There's also the benefit of the radio tuning that just got added that you didn't touch on. I wish you would have hit on more of the cool features they both have.
Everything is a fair point honestly. All the same gripes and drawbacks, but also benefit (love you showing Suisei's Phony).
Honestly, it is difficult to evaluate YT Music independently since subscription to it is basically a YT Premium subscription. I am a YT Premium subscriber foremost, so I just think of YT Music as just extras, maybe using if I kinda want to listen to Risu's KING sometime.
YT Music has a dedicated app on MAC, like the one you have. And an app for Mobile.
I was just thinking if I should change from spotify to YM... Thanks for the video, it was super useful! 💜
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I travel a lot for work and found myself enjoying both. I use Spotify for downloading albums and podcasts for offline use while in the air but find myself using YT Music to download concerts (video game symphony music) as well as YT videos in general. For me having both fits but were I not a traveler then I'd probably just stick with Spotify or even the dreaded Apple Music. I recently switched over to a full Apple Ecosystem and am finding it hard to want to move to Apple Music so for now I'll continue waiving the two preferred banners. Love your content btw.
Thanks for the shoutout! Great video as always!
I personally install the web app from Chrome in Windows in place of a stand alone application and pin the icon to the taskbar. I don't personally see the need of YT Music to compile a standalone application when it's web app is so good on it's own.
When will they get Hi-FI/lossless? They lag behind Tidal, Amazon, Apple, and some people like me want to switch but am not going to sacrifice quality for simply a new feel.
YTM is really slow on my laptop. maybe people say it's my laptop's fault. I don't think so. Spotify moves fast af without problem. this is one of the reasons why I prefer spotify over YTM.
last year I moved my playlist from Spotify to TH-cam Music using soundiiz, and man I was surprised when I saw so many unknown uploader (not the original artist)
Tidal over both of them for the music quality.
Mqa is a scam, Tidal is better but not that much compared for Spotify
ken i love how ikenai borderline appears and walküre and may'n aww noice taste bro🥰🥰🌠
It's ok-ish, can't integrate it on Alexa for example, the algorithm is a bit dumb repeating the same songs over and over, but you have TH-cam with no ads and music so it's a dealll
My biggest annoyance with YT music is that its directly connected to your regular YT account.
So if i subscribe or like anything in YT music, it appears in regular YT. I dont want that. I dont want to my subscription feed on YT to be cluttered by bands i like. Nor i dont want my liked music be mixed with liked videos.
I wish there was a seperation with an option to integrate what you what.
As someone who uses TH-cam Music because I have premium, I very much enjoy it. Every good point youve pointed out I’m all for. On my PC I just have the main YT Music home page saved as a web app cause the UI is fine for me.
Also good to see the goddess Suisei in the videos!
i think its worth pointing out that apple music come with cloud library, since apple music technically comes with itunes match. this means you get free storage for up to 100,000 200mb 256kbps aac audio tracks, whuich doesn't come out of your icloud storage. so you can download your favourite youtube or soundcloud tracks and upload them to listen to all the super indie underground stuff that people go on youtube and soundcloud for. this feature caused me to leave youtube music. of course, you can also use classic usb or wifi sync if you have an iphone and forego the cloud storage entirely, but it's definitely very convenient this way
For students plan yt premium costs around a dollar, for that price it also giving the ad free music service too, so I’m using it, rather spend more on Spotify over yt premium. If i don’t need yt premium videos, I’ll use Spotify over yt music
I love these comparaison but when Tidal vs Spotify ?
I dont pay for a service that will and can push advertice im my face even if i pay for it. The "kick out and forced login" on YT premium isnt offline. Its always online DRM. Not ok.
If i pay for a service that will allow me to download media for offline use i wont accept being forced to login to view it. Its not ok.
A addon that will push the "yes" button when it show up on YT is free and i would recommend such a addon. It cost 0$ and it works fine.
I am one of those people who's just too lazy to compile a playlist by myself. I just want to pick a song and let the algorithm take me to God knows where 😂 Because of this, I find that TH-cam Music's recommendations algorithm is so much suited for my needs. I'm very picky with my songs, so, more often than not, I don't like to explore new songs, especially if it's too different with what I usually listen to. YT Music's algorithm reads my pattern whenever I play a certain song (kinda creepy if we're talking about data privacy, but hey it works for me). For instance, if I play a J Pop song, they usually play similar songs that I have played before when I am in that J-Pop mood and associate other songs that I play along with that song (e.g. 1st song is YOASOBI this, 2nd YOASOBI that, 3rd is Yama this, then whenever I play one of those songs, the other two songs will be added in the queue automatically + new songs that are similar to those, but can be hit or miss). And if it's other genres or another "set of songs that I usually play together", then the algorithm will adjust to that mood that I'm currently on when I just picked a song and not a whole playlist.
If we're talking about data, yes it is kind of scary, and if we're talking about discovering new songs, yes maybe Spotify is better, but because I like to stay in my comfort zone most of the time when I'm listening to music, this works! And that initial comfort can persuade me into listening new similar music, sometimes even without me noticing.
One thing I will say about youtube music is that it's algorithm is LEAGUES ahead of spotify. Whenever my preselected tacks end, spotify almost always plays something I don't like. It would always play something in the same genre, but never an artist I actually enjoyed listening to. TH-cam music, on the other hand, almost always knows exactly what's up my alley. It has only missed once by showing me NF after a Post Malone album.
Sui-chan approved.
Gonna stick with TH-cam Music to save some money. Just have to familiarise myself into this clunky UI since Spotify done it way better.
so back in the we had google play music which is still leagues better than youtube music. Its honestly such a travesty they shutdown google play music for something this is like a turd in comparison.
that said as someone that jumps between services a lot i do usually end up back on google play music.
Hello. I also have TH-cam Music but for me, the order is Apple Music then Spotify then Pandora then TH-cam Music (then TuneIn, IHeartRadio, Deezer, LiveOne previously Slacker, SoundCloud, etc.). I believe things got worse for this music app specifically after the switch from Google Play Music (which is actually the offspring after Google bought Songza, one of my faves all time). I miss Songza…
I love YT Music mostly because I have found so much new music based on my likes. The UI is meh I’ll give you that and shuffle really sucks it feels like I always get the same songs in the same order. Overall I can’t find myself paying for another streaming service when it’s included with premium.
Should we compare Amazon Prime music next?
Before watching this video, I will input my thoughts. My thoughts are that I can pay for TH-cam premium and get TH-cam music, which is comparable to Spotify premium, as well. This means that for a cheaper price, I can get no ads on TH-cam and also TH-cam music with no ads. It is all around better value. Also it works more seamlessly
from deezer, to spotify, to yt music. now im back on spotify and will stay for the most part.. I exclusively use it on my car only and the simplicity of spotify and its algorithim is what got me
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3:53 well to be fair the spotify desktop app is an electron app so it's almost no different from opening it on the browser and it's still pretty much eating up a lot of ram
Ive been using YT Music for about 2 years but then stop. The reason being the app freezing up and not loading my downloads. It might of been of my old phone because it was a samsung galaxy A5 2017. But i got a new phone so im going back to using yt music. If you do have a youtube membership its still a good deal. The only thing that i'll complain about is your playlists from YT show up there. I wish there was an option to only have your playlists that are on YT music.
Can’t wait for this to become a trilogy with SoundCloud
I personally wouldn't use either of them and it's entirely a "to each their own" scenario
I've got more than enough local storage for my CD rips (from CD's I totally own and didn't overpay for)
plus the side loaded sony walkman app makes browsing and navigating quite nice especially since my phone didn't come with a music player app..... thanks google.
TH-cam music biggest problem is a just don't market it well when you include TH-cam premium with TH-cam music no ads it's completely better than Spotify or any other music service.
All the issues ken is bringing up are with the app are because the app is still learning i dont have any these problems
I use YT music mostly for my "live music" playlist. Sometimes i just wanna listen to live versions of songs that apple music and spotify doesnt have
can i get your wallpaperr???!! so cool
I don’t really understand the love for Spotify. It is a decent app with decent music selection and UI. For me personally, it is not great. I have used the premium version of Spotify and TH-cam Music, and I found them both to not be as good as Apple Music. With Apple Music, I always find some thing I want to listen to right away. I even still have iHeartRadio and Pandora. As well as a bunch of other apps that I have tried over the years. I end up going to Spotify for Podcasts, but not for music. I use TH-cam music for searching and playing songs that way, I do not mess up my spot on algorithm that I have developed in Apple Music. Apple Music is my go to app for the gym because I am not sitting there skipping songs the whole time. As much as I go to the gym, I end up going more to listen to music while I’m working out, than looking at it the other way around. So the music Hass to be good enough not to change. I just can’t seem to do that on Spotify even with the personal DJ. TH-cam. TH-cam music seems to be even worse at it. But I don’t really pay for TH-cam music. It is just included with my TH-cam premium subscription. If I ever had to pay for it separately, I would just not. Unless the algorithm was a lot better at finding music that I want to listen to. Especially new music.
I definitely disagree with your complaints about TH-cam Music. I definitely like Spotify and I had Spotify for years. But a while back I switched to TH-cam Music and I think it's better. Spotify has become so convoluted especially when they incorporated a TikTok feed. You mentioned how bad you think the home screen is on TH-cam Music but completely left out that Spotify is home screen is much worse. I used to really love Spotify but it's just become way too convoluted. Especially the home screen.
I get Apple Music with my phone plan, which is cool but I still pay for YT Music just because of the integration with TH-cam itself and to add literally anything to your playlists - Not my favourite UI experience though
The free version of TH-cam music is better than the free version of Spotify music first of all TH-cam music has higher bitrate on the free version and you do not have shuffle like on Spotify that's a deal-breaker for me you could choose which song you want to play on TH-cam music going to have to choose TH-cam music yes the interface is different but it's fine
I just wish you could search your playlists for songs
5:33 You can scroll sideways FYI
After a few years on spotify, im on the edge for TH-cam music. But i feel like its still worth it to wait a few years. Feel like it'll take over in a ew years tho
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the only reason why i still use YT music is honestly just the related and up next feature
Trying to love YT music. Buggy compared to Apple especially on CarPlay, but it's free with YT Premium so that's what I'm using. It's amazing for finding new things though
I think you were to hard on TH-cam Music. I really like the interface and because I use Arc Browser on my Mac it's okay for me without a desktop app, but I totally understand that it's unnecessary clutter in the browser. But for me, who doesnt listen a lot of playlist and just randomly pick a song from the start page YT Music is great
Me who just download the mp3 version of youtube video, and use a mp3 player app to listen to it: : |
Since I have 2 devices at home, TH-cam music really isn’t a bother with having the screen on since I’m doing something else on the other phone anyways. But I understand with the screen off Spotify is better in this instance, but the free version only allows shuffle play on songs you actually want to hear, maybe for some it’s not a big deal, but for me It kinda is a dealbreaker. So TH-cam Music sorta fixes it. But Spotify is better with premium. But at home TH-cam music just makes more sense, if you have multiple phones that is.
YT Music have better algorithms
TH-cam music sounds fuller with enough bass than spotify with a bit clearer audio but lacks the bass that i'm looking for.
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great points, wish youtube music was better so I could adopt it to easily listen to all the vtuber covers
After trying out every music app a few years ago I settled on Prime Music.
I used YT premium for students for two months, its not bad. But the UI is pretty meh I enjoy the fact that I can search up music that are covered by tons of people easily. But I hate the fact that some like music overrides? Or just in general get piled up with my like songs playlist. If YT improves this somehow and clean up their UI they will get me to switch to YT easily.
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Might I suggest, ViMusic??
I dislike the interface. It's harder to navigate and there are various missing features that Spotify has.
Spotify I swear is the G.O.A.T of music apps. While YT Music u can't stream music on the back ground, unless u have YT Music premium. So my recommendation is gonna be Spotify, BUUUUT the choice is yours ☺️
Pretty sure you can
Only wish you had access to Google Music before Google had their identity crisis and change/remake all their popular apps...
Now it's time for Tidal😂
its good for youtube+youtube music. but id rather ad blocker on youtube which i only watch on my pc, and pay for spotify for on the go with my phone
Was pretty shocked with how good the quality is with TH-cam music.
I just switched to TH-cam about a year ago and I like it better than Spotify
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I like YTM alot but my problem with it is, they're not very organized. They don't keep all heir albums and artist in one place and its hard to put things in alpabetical order. I still prefer Spotify because of that.
What is the highest music quality that both are providing?
the only thing I don't like about YT Music is that it doesn't let you turn off videos completely for free and it doesn't let you sort the songs in the playlists alphabetically
I gotta say that I think you were way too hard on YTMusic well maybe too hard on a specific thing that you care about which is something I never even think about. I would mention how hard it can be to find new albums on date of release and the lack of fun list that Spotify allows plugins to access and create.
What about prices?
I think normal YT is more better then YT Music 🤔, like some music is not available on the music app that is on YT, i suppose
Also true as mostly YT just keep repeating the same type of song's when you want to explore new genre or artist
Suiseggs
Shoutout to the OKBH
Now that I'm using YT Premium, the single thing that is preventing me from switching from Spotify is Shazam. Every song that I find there can easily be tracked on Shazam. Google already has a very good feature like this but I don't want to ask Google to find the song, I just want it to do it.
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Google did make a Chrome app for TH-cam Music where it would get its own icon and window on your desktop. They probably thought that was good enough.
I love the package deal with YT Music and YT Premium being only in one payment. But I do agree with the clunkiness of the system and I hard agree with the idea that there should be desktop app for YT music. Google please make one!