The most amazing thing is how you are just in love with photography, thinking about the picture first and loving the process and outcome no matter what gear you are using. Very inspiring thinking, this is something we should all cherish. It's the picture that truly matters.
What I love about this video is that it really drives in the point that (like many hobbies) even affordable equipment on the lower end of the scale performs much better than people's expectations.
So Chris and Jordan will come along with new-reviews that keep GAS going, and once in a while Nigel will pop in and say - nah, forget GAS, just take good pictures. Perfect balance!
These entry level cameras seem to always have amazing, professional level sensors in them (even if not the latest generation). You lose out on autofocus performance, frame rate, buffer depth, video capabilities, etc, weather sealing, etc. But, if you don't really care about any of that and your primary concern is professional image quality (as is the case with 99% of people, whether they realize it or not), these entry level cameras are actually fantastic. I've actually read about several professional photographers (real professionals, not TH-cam "professionals") who primarily use entry level cameras simply because they are so cheap (to purchase initially or to replace if they get damaged or stolen) and still have phenomenal image quality.
I bought one as a companion for my trusty 80d. It is much lighter, has a great grip - much better than many mirrorless, has focus peaking in liveview, even clean HDMI out WITH autofocus (dual Pixel). Great touchscreen as well, paired with the best (imho) usability of the touchscreen besides panasonic. Even my wife likes it a lot, and ususally she never touches DSLRs because of the bulkyness. I love this little gem:)
Thanks for the review which was very informative. What it proves to me is that a good photographer CAN get awesome results from any camera and lens setup. Keep up the good work.
Really good video and messages about putting gear into perspective. For young photographers especially they can pick up a used kit for very little and get on with the good work of making images!
Just amazing, I still don't believe this photos were taken on an entry level dslr and a 18-55 mn kit lens. Please make more videos for other camera brands like sony Or Panasonic using the kit lens with which they come
Indeed all you are doing is moving forward the understanding that it is FAR more the person behind the camera then the camera itself. Our tools assist our connection in creativity. But that doesn't mean one can't produce superb imagery with a camera that is NOT "State Of The Art". I'm currently using a Sony RX10MkIV after having owned many pro DSLR's over the last 20 years as a professional. But now finding that flexibility gives me MORE power than the shear specs.
I have an SL1 and it is great for learning. But after 3 years I start to think about something with better low light performance and better AF. Kit lens is good but wide open has some flaws. So, if you want to travel, learn and enjoy SL3 is great even for video, except for 1 thing: Canon removed the central pin in the flash shoe. I learnt a lot using cheap external flashes on camera and off camera and now you can only use Canon flashes, some of them with considerable pricetag. If you want to learn flash photography on a budget, this camera is not for you.
Thanks for that great review. I’m trying to make a newcomer decision and I loved how you showed real world prints of your work and explained how it’s skill not megapixels etc that create such nice images.
great job. i wonder, what are those red pods you have attached to the strap mounts? i see them on other people's cameras as well, wonder what they are for?
One caution: This camera doesnt have a center contact in the hot shoe. So no compatibility with most studio flash triggers (and porties as well) unless the triggers have specific Canon contacts. The Canon M50 (has the center contact) is a much better value at the same price.
@@BlueBomberTurbo While the 9 Af point in the viewfinder are far from great but greatly increase battery usage, using the live view mode the sl3 has more than 3k focus point (M50 is around 140), moreover eyedetection works in servo mode while on the M50 only for static subject.
@@dani_da_vision Neither of those. They are flawed for professional use. I would go for the (now) similar priced 77d. Great AF from the optical viewfinder, more manual control, in live view you will only miss the eye detection but still have face tracking, but with the 45 cross point AF in the optical view finder I think that you would rarely use it. The m50 is tempting but the ergonomics is far from good and with ef-s lenses is really unbalanced. Battery life ridicolous. The SL3 is a deliberately missed opportunity, it's 9 point AF makes the viewfinder inusable for professional works, you still have the (great, with great AF) live view but personally I like shooting from the viewfinder. Moreover the flash compatibility, the 24fps missing in the video, I just not undestand the Canon choice.
I have one of this n honestly im amazed with it...its really good n way better than my skills, wich always makes me push for another step forward. N I trully think this is the challenge for everyone that, like me, is starting his ways in photography, the most important thing is to find a way to learn something in every photo, about photography skills and about how we define ourselves, our style, our own mark ... gear is important, but isnt crucial, not at starts... I really loved this video, thank you so much, again, trully inspiring!🙏
Thanks for all the information im looking at buying my first dslr camera where abouts in the peak district was it took as I live in near the peak district
Would love to see more content like this. Great alternative to the people who constantly say gear doesn't matter before walking out with $15,000 worth of camera gear and a bunch of broncolor strobes then taking an amazing image, but not reminding everyone that gear doesn't matter.
I would rate them as: Most important is whether the subject is impressive. Beautiful, dramatic, important, interesting, carrying an emotion or provoking contemplation, regardless of being a natural scene, a person, a location, a moment of history, an event etc... Second most important is the ability of the photographer. To squeeze the maximum of that subject. Third most important, closely related to the previous, are some technical aspects of the picture, like proper exposure, composition, timing and additional editing. Fourth most important is the gear used. And for some reason, probably 99% of the attention goes into the 4th most important...
That is some dedication, I could see the midges swarming around you! The images look good. I suppose the saying the best camera is the one that's with you is proven to be correct.
Hello, flash is not popping up automatically in my canon 250d !! Only manual mode? I tried even in low light conditions, still not popping up automatically and it shows onscreen message like " raise the flash" How can I resolve this
So many people think kit lens are for amateurs, but this days kit lens are really sharp , only one downside is is dark glass That's it I use my mainly for landscape U have close them to f7.1 and lower anyway 🙂
The real advantages of a more expensive camera are the autofocus system and the burst rate. It makes it much easier to track moving subjects and capture the right moment. For landscapes, this is far less important. But it's crucial for sports and wildlife or even if you're trying to track kids or pets. Also, for a beginner especially (but also for everyone else), I would recommend buying a mirrorless camera instead. With the electronic viewfinder, you can preview your exposure, and that's critical. Sure, you can do that off the back screen with a DSLR, but you can't do it when the camera is up to your eye. Entry-level telephoto and prime lenses are cheap, so I would recommend that every beginner at least have at least two lenses and probably three (a portrait prime). They don't have to be fancy, but there's very little reason to buy an interchangeable lens camera if you only have one slow kit zoom lens. Buy used to save money!
Thank you very much for this video. I really appreciate it! I have just bought a Canon 250D four hours ago and I am really excited! I hope one day I will be able to take advantage of it as you do! I will start practicing right now!
@@jonathanchandeckr.132 Sure. Pair it with a Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 portrait lens ($249 from mpb.com). Later you can upgrade to an EF 85mm f/1.2 L for $1,014.
Knowing the principles of photography can make a massive difference. So many new photographers never leave one or two Auto modes. Then if you want get better glass and a body
This is completely irrelevant to the message of this video but as a camera nerd I have to ask why were you using ISO200 on many shots when you could have been using ISO100 instead? The photos were excellent in any case but I'm just wondering if there was any reasoning behind that.
For landscape this camera could be enough, when you shoot F8 up. For portraits or wildlife not so much. This camera do not have lens micro adjustment setting, so if it's off a bit with focus with the lens you got, you gonna have soft pictures at lower apertures :(. I got 200D and it was really hard to get spot on focus with 1.8 or 2.8 lens with it. But with apertures 7.1 up it was even capturing really good panning shots of fast moving cars, although hit ratio was not that good. Mirrorless is an answer here, cause in most cases you won't need any micro adjustments because of how focus is gathered in mirrorless vs dslrs.
I once had a 1200D, vastly inferior to your 200D and I never had focusing issues with moving subjects with lenses wide open. The only lens I've ever owned which needed micro AF adjustments was a Tamron 18-400mm on an 80D. I've had Canon for over 30yrs and none of my Canon lenses have had AF issues.
@@cooloox It depends of the quality of mirror attachement (Gerald Undone explains it in one of his videos). I guess my copy of the camera got focus or mine mirror slightly off. Now I switched to Sony A6400 and with the same cheap canon lens on MC-11 focus is spot on in most of the photos taken. You can adjust the mirror with the adjust screw, but for me it was to complicated thing to do. Professionals can do it, but it costs additional money and result may vary for different lenses. I'm not saying 200D is a bad camera. I was using it for almost a year and got some amazing photos with it (even wildlife). But with 9 point of AF it's sometime really hard to shoot small bird. Sure you can do MF, but MF on EVF (A6400 for example) is much easier because of MF assistants (either peeking or MF zoom). So as Nigel said in one of his videos cheap camera could be enough, but you have to know what you gonna shot, not to be disappointed with the results. Oh and that crippled hotshoe on 250D is really bad move of Canon.
I agree! I use 600d(x2) + wireless flashes (studio and event work)...good when staying aware of focus issues. The lack of micro adjusting is a big issue for other types of use...macro/semi-macro and telephoto, I have had a lot of experience of these issues, and they are real. I have tested mine and both of them front focus! If someone doesn't experience them they may have a good copy where the adjustment is spot on but on the other hand, they may not be a pixel peeper (as I am). Over the years people have referenced this problem but they won't get a reference to lack of micro adjustment. On occasions, I will have to use my Samsung NX11 (mirrorless) which is spot on for macro work and with good live view performance, the 600d can't generally be used in live view (2 to 4 seconds to focus...no dual pixel). Pros and cons but never rely on one review! The 200d, 250d can be considered as a mirrorless with an optical viewfinder. Sub £1000 (variable) DSLRs cannot be micro-adjusted, this is a lot of money to invest in a camera and possible expensive glass. Canons dual pixel is very good so beginners need to be aware that if they like to use live view, make sure it has dual pixel! I won't upgrade my cameras until they pack in but keeping up with the way technology is progressing is vital. Lots of great photographers are invested and experienced in the gear they have and if it's working for them...great but in 2019 for a new photographer moving into photography they need to be aware of the pro photographer who hasn't moved with the times', even this photographer has moved into mirrorless (Nikon Z7).
The problem is not the lens and the camera but mostly photographer error. Once a lens focuses, it will always focus until you press the shutter button unles you pick the wrong focus point.
Confused between sl3 (this) and the m50... As a budget backup camera for weddings... Every comment on YT saying m50 But then again those commenters on YT. Anyway i understand sl3 has a lot more focusing points than the m50.. Confused
Thanks for this video, I really appreciate your insight. I've been using no professional M43 for 3-4 years now but I'm considering moving up to an affordable, reasonable size 24+mp SLR. I had looked at the original Canon SL a few years back but passed on it. The New Canon SL3 is looking pretty good now. If only I had your composition skills....
This is the same camera I just bought and I'm really impressed by it. However, I came directly from a Digital Rebel 300D 6.3MP dinosaur, so there's that.
Please don't kill DSLR, i'm mirrorless user but mirrorless is rarely get 350 shot of photos, but with dslr you can easy get 500 shot in one charge. That's the thing i didn't get with mirrorless 😢
Great video, but, you did pictures that fit perfectly the camera specs, maybe in other conditions it isn’t very good camera, anyway you took amazing shots in the right conditions for that camera! (sorry for my English)
Right. The SL3 has no weather sealing, a primitive autofocus system through the viewfinder, and a slow burst rate. It will really let you down with moving subjects. For the same money, you're much better off getting a gently used camera with better features. May I recommend the original Olympus OM-D E-M1 with 14-150mm f4.0-5.6 II lens? You can find that camera used for very little money (even with very few shutter variations), and it's extremely powerful. The only thing I don't like about my E-M1 is the video quality, but it's still usable for beginners. If you must have APS-C, the Sony a6000 is a better choice than the SL3 even though it doesn't have weather sealing either. And, if you must have Canon, try the EOS M5 or M50.
They don't make bad sensors anymore. It is a simpler bodies canon, with less functionality, so easier on the beginner. And yet a lot further and more capable then the old photographers had. So, yeah they kinda work and are fine. Now, don't get me wrong, I do like the modern additions we have. Better, quicker focus, easier handling, extra tools... as long as the camera is seen as a tool all is fine. But in the end, it is about getting a picture, a moment caught in time, and again, there are no bad sensors anymore. Some are a bit better than others, but even the most simple of sensors is still pretty darn good by old standards. And for that price, it is a good begin, right? Leaves you more money for some decent lenses.
Canon still makes one sensor that is definitely bad. The one in the 6D II and EOS RP is based on 7 year old tech. Its performance is dismal: www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%206D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%20RP,Sony%20ILCE-7M3 The skies would be far more clipped in the images in the video than with just the SL3, which significantly outperforms the 6DII/EOS RP sensor at base ISO, making it the superior landscape camera: www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%206D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%20800D,Canon%20EOS%20RP
I agree with the sentiment that a camera is a a tool and it shouldn't hold you back, that being said, would it be possible to have these videos in 4K, youtube compression is wrecking havoc on all the greenery shots and photos in 1080p.
It's interesting the TH-cam algorithms will now only allow 4K if your screen and likely your graphics card too are able to reproduce it. I have a "decent" monitor and a "decent" graphics card but nothing above 1080 60p shows on the YT quality list. It used to and I would try it but I used to get lots of random pixelization so had to switch back to 1080. An upgrade is on the list but expensive to get both at the same time. I will try a card first.
For that price I would get a used 5d mark ii with a 17-40mm, since that lens sell for like 350 used and the 5d mark ii its like 450 used. But the thing is get a camera and learn how to shoot, get better, craft your skills and start editing them. After that you might get a new lens, and the quality of the lens is what makes the image good or bad, not that much the sensor soo invest in good lens and dont buy many cheap lens but buy one good lens. Thats my advice. And really nice video! I would like to see you guys using older gear with older lens to show peole that they can get great images with used cheap gear and they dont need to pay that much gor a good combo.
To be honest, i wouldnt do that anymore. the sensor on the 250D is much better than the 5DII sensor. especially when it comes to dynamic range. Also for video its much more usable with the dualpixel AF and eye AF.
I've had a 5Dmkiii and a 50D and the 250D has beat them both small light and with Digic8 and full 4k HD eyeA/f and the amazing 1000+ shot count. The 5D's not been out once since I've owned it fantastic little camera much more than a newbie unit it's almost the same as the new 850D at a fraction of the price. For once a real bargain from Canon
Yes, compared to digital cameras from 10 years ago this far exceeds in every department. But new high value kit makes it easier, I think that is the point now, the quality difference is minimal or can be worked around....Thanks
The sunset shots definitely show what a better camera could get you. The sky wouldn't have been clipped into the middle of the image. There would instead be full cloud detail there, as the off-screen sun is the true clipping point. Any recent APS-C from Nikon, Pentax, or Sony (and maybe Fuji) would have been able to fix that, along with any recent FF except the EOS RP or 6D II.
Thats kinda nonsense. the 250D sensor is basically the 80D sensor. which also has really good dynamic range. very similar to the Sony A6500 for example. Even the predecessor the 200D had pretty good DR already. There is not really difference anymore between the APS-C canon cameras and other brands.
Hi Nigel, Best Wishes for 2021 ! Thanks for that review, I'm owner of a 250D and a 100D , I've always ben impressed by the quality of their 18-55 kit lenses...and quite upset of the 50mm1.8, so bland and missing contrast... I'm also using a 24mm 2.8 which is my favorite street photo lens. You can see my BnW work on Insta: christian_henry.poli Have a nice day !
For what you are shooting the 250D sensor is indeed good enough. However, showing us the results of a $100 kit lens and saying it is fantastic is highly misleading even for a gent whose every other word uttered is a "superlative." Are you saying that the results of the 250D with high quality glass would be the same or would such be incredibly fantastic times ten!
depends on what you looking for. as a landscape camera you are right. but as a beginners camera, i wouldnt put a D700 in the hands of a beginner. the 250D is super easy to use. especially with the dual pixel touch AF, Super intuitive menu, Wifi funktions for your smartphone and so on.
They Caged Non has a different approach to controls(fuji or leica), the lens has bokeh etc, this is all menu camera, there is nothing in it thats done for a photographer, its 100% marketed, its not allowed to be good but can be decent, its not allowed to be comfortable or well thought out as it will rival more expensive cameras..
@They Caged Non well, its nice that you are happy with your camera, many people are, but imagine you are doing a review of a camera that havent changed since the invention of 300d, so if you done 1 review of a camera like that, youve done them all, thats where my comment comes from, and thats why we see a pretty video with sceneries instead of a technical review
@They Caged Non well I think it depends on a person you are recommending to, I wouldnt recommend a d750 but I would recommend a 6d mk1 with a cheap youngnuo 50mm lens, but for someone that most probably will never buy a second lens I would recommend to go mirrorless - olympus m10 mk3 for example or a sony rx1 if rich ;]
They Caged Non all these good for nothing hasselblads and leicasonics :))) fuji system is great, but a bit pricey, I had it for a while but then fell in love with omd :))
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Great to see a great photographer using and reviewing a camera (and lens) for mortals.
Thank you very much for your time and effort
The most amazing thing is how you are just in love with photography, thinking about the picture first and loving the process and outcome no matter what gear you are using. Very inspiring thinking, this is something we should all cherish. It's the picture that truly matters.
What I love about this video is that it really drives in the point that (like many hobbies) even affordable equipment on the lower end of the scale performs much better than people's expectations.
So Chris and Jordan will come along with new-reviews that keep GAS going, and once in a while Nigel will pop in and say - nah, forget GAS, just take good pictures. Perfect balance!
we need more entry level camera challenge from profesional...
Love the positive vibe Nigel gives to this video. Great work!
These entry level cameras seem to always have amazing, professional level sensors in them (even if not the latest generation). You lose out on autofocus performance, frame rate, buffer depth, video capabilities, etc, weather sealing, etc. But, if you don't really care about any of that and your primary concern is professional image quality (as is the case with 99% of people, whether they realize it or not), these entry level cameras are actually fantastic. I've actually read about several professional photographers (real professionals, not TH-cam "professionals") who primarily use entry level cameras simply because they are so cheap (to purchase initially or to replace if they get damaged or stolen) and still have phenomenal image quality.
it is canons best APS-c sensor
@@77appyi Yes a real bit of quality kit from Canon and at that price it's amazing.
Please which is better for photograhy nikon d5600 or canon m50 or canon 250d?
I bought one as a companion for my trusty 80d. It is much lighter, has a great grip - much better than many mirrorless, has focus peaking in liveview, even clean HDMI out WITH autofocus (dual Pixel). Great touchscreen as well, paired with the best (imho) usability of the touchscreen besides panasonic. Even my wife likes it a lot, and ususally she never touches DSLRs because of the bulkyness. I love this little gem:)
The touch screen on my relatively 80D is way better than the one on my G9, for navigating menus and photos.
Great images! Good example of knowing what you're doing is more important than buying an expensive camera.
And the winner of the most expensive tools today is the tripod! Yay!!
The best shots were the ones he took handheld when the light was best though.
@@eiricnj7664 When the time is right and you have your tools!
The best camera is the one that's with you - Chase Jarvis
Nice video! I was wondering: what would be the result if you had used a higher iso, especially with the sunset photo?
Thanks for the review which was very informative. What it proves to me is that a good photographer CAN get awesome results from any camera and lens setup. Keep up the good work.
Really good video and messages about putting gear into perspective. For young photographers especially they can pick up a used kit for very little and get on with the good work of making images!
Just amazing, I still don't believe this photos were taken on an entry level dslr and a 18-55 mn kit lens. Please make more videos for other camera brands like sony Or Panasonic using the kit lens with which they come
This video can inspire many people ♥
Indeed! I have just bought this camera and I am even more excited now after watching the video.
@@raulsuhett I am going to get this camera after a week... 💕
@@angatkaycee4060 what do you think of the camera so far? Good pictures?
@@raulsuhett how do you like it so far?
@@Cav_Farms awesome till now !
I just bought the older version of this camera, the 200D. I'm glad to know you can use these entry-level DSLR cameras to take good landscape photos.
Love your channel and calm way of explaining things, just got my self a Canon 250D for my retro review show and learned a lot from this
Indeed all you are doing is moving forward the understanding that it is FAR more the person behind the camera then the camera itself. Our tools assist our connection in creativity. But that doesn't mean one can't produce superb imagery with a camera that is NOT "State Of The Art". I'm currently using a Sony RX10MkIV after having owned many pro DSLR's over the last 20 years as a professional. But now finding that flexibility gives me MORE power than the shear specs.
I have an SL1 and it is great for learning. But after 3 years I start to think about something with better low light performance and better AF. Kit lens is good but wide open has some flaws. So, if you want to travel, learn and enjoy SL3 is great even for video, except for 1 thing: Canon removed the central pin in the flash shoe. I learnt a lot using cheap external flashes on camera and off camera and now you can only use Canon flashes, some of them with considerable pricetag.
If you want to learn flash photography on a budget, this camera is not for you.
What lens you are using on this video?
Have a T4i kicking around here. Nothing wrong with its pictures. Easy to get sucked into the spec vortex.
Hi. Thank you so much for the video. Can you please tell me if this camera is good for still life photography in low light? Thank you already
Thanks for that great review. I’m trying to make a newcomer decision and I loved how you showed real world prints of your work and explained how it’s skill not megapixels etc that create such nice images.
great job. i wonder, what are those red pods you have attached to the strap mounts? i see them on other people's cameras as well, wonder what they are for?
Love my SL3!!
One caution: This camera doesnt have a center contact in the hot shoe. So no compatibility with most studio flash triggers (and porties as well) unless the triggers have specific Canon contacts. The Canon M50 (has the center contact) is a much better value at the same price.
And the focus accuracy will be absolute on the M50 (on static subjects, anyway), being mirrorless.
That pin removal was a real head scratcher for me as well Canon really does some stupid crap sometimes!, but their cameras do work flawlessly IRL!
@@BlueBomberTurbo While the 9 Af point in the viewfinder are far from great but greatly increase battery usage, using the live view mode the sl3 has more than 3k focus point (M50 is around 140), moreover eyedetection works in servo mode while on the M50 only for static subject.
@@earthless8781 if u were to choose between the two for budget backup wedding camera.. wguch one will it be? And why please
@@dani_da_vision Neither of those. They are flawed for professional use. I would go for the (now) similar priced 77d. Great AF from the optical viewfinder, more manual control, in live view you will only miss the eye detection but still have face tracking, but with the 45 cross point AF in the optical view finder I think that you would rarely use it. The m50 is tempting but the ergonomics is far from good and with ef-s lenses is really unbalanced. Battery life ridicolous. The SL3 is a deliberately missed opportunity, it's 9 point AF makes the viewfinder inusable for professional works, you still have the (great, with great AF) live view but personally I like shooting from the viewfinder. Moreover the flash compatibility, the 24fps missing in the video, I just not undestand the Canon choice.
I have one of this n honestly im amazed with it...its really good n way better than my skills, wich always makes me push for another step forward. N I trully think this is the challenge for everyone that, like me, is starting his ways in photography, the most important thing is to find a way to learn something in every photo, about photography skills and about how we define ourselves, our style, our own mark ... gear is important, but isnt crucial, not at starts... I really loved this video, thank you so much, again, trully inspiring!🙏
Great explain, almost all cameras are better than
good enough now.
Thanks for all the information im looking at buying my first dslr camera where abouts in the peak district was it took as I live in near the peak district
Would love to see more content like this. Great alternative to the people who constantly say gear doesn't matter before walking out with $15,000 worth of camera gear and a bunch of broncolor strobes then taking an amazing image, but not reminding everyone that gear doesn't matter.
I would rate them as: Most important is whether the subject is impressive. Beautiful, dramatic, important, interesting, carrying an emotion or provoking contemplation, regardless of being a natural scene, a person, a location, a moment of history, an event etc... Second most important is the ability of the photographer. To squeeze the maximum of that subject. Third most important, closely related to the previous, are some technical aspects of the picture, like proper exposure, composition, timing and additional editing. Fourth most important is the gear used. And for some reason, probably 99% of the attention goes into the 4th most important...
That is some dedication, I could see the midges swarming around you! The images look good. I suppose the saying the best camera is the one that's with you is proven to be correct.
A good and sensible review, refreshing.
Nigel and DPReview together, how can the world be better ?
Hello, flash is not popping up automatically in my canon 250d !!
Only manual mode? I tried even in low light conditions, still not popping up automatically and it shows onscreen message like " raise the flash"
How can I resolve this
So many people think kit lens are for amateurs, but this days kit lens are really sharp , only one downside is is dark glass That's it
I use my mainly for landscape U have close them to f7.1 and lower anyway 🙂
SL3 VS D5600
WHICH IS BETTER
Some truly amazing images taken there. Great video
I used to pair the 1000d rebel xs with the 70-200 f4 is and the combo provides pretty good results.
Cool video and some great shots. Well done 👍👍
The real advantages of a more expensive camera are the autofocus system and the burst rate. It makes it much easier to track moving subjects and capture the right moment.
For landscapes, this is far less important. But it's crucial for sports and wildlife or even if you're trying to track kids or pets.
Also, for a beginner especially (but also for everyone else), I would recommend buying a mirrorless camera instead. With the electronic viewfinder, you can preview your exposure, and that's critical. Sure, you can do that off the back screen with a DSLR, but you can't do it when the camera is up to your eye.
Entry-level telephoto and prime lenses are cheap, so I would recommend that every beginner at least have at least two lenses and probably three (a portrait prime). They don't have to be fancy, but there's very little reason to buy an interchangeable lens camera if you only have one slow kit zoom lens.
Buy used to save money!
Thank you very much for this video. I really appreciate it! I have just bought a Canon 250D four hours ago and I am really excited! I hope one day I will be able to take advantage of it as you do! I will start practicing right now!
I am going to get this beast after a week ♥️
After this couple months using it, would you recommend this camera for doing portrait photography??
@@jonathanchandeckr.132 Sure. Pair it with a Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 portrait lens ($249 from mpb.com). Later you can upgrade to an EF 85mm f/1.2 L for $1,014.
Nigel i have to say you composition skills are on point & the lighting yielded some really nice shutters :)
Knowing the principles of photography can make a massive difference. So many new photographers never leave one or two Auto modes.
Then if you want get better glass and a body
Nigel, Chris, Jordon.. DP review is equivalent of Avengers in photography...
This is completely irrelevant to the message of this video but as a camera nerd I have to ask why were you using ISO200 on many shots when you could have been using ISO100 instead? The photos were excellent in any case but I'm just wondering if there was any reasoning behind that.
FYI: This camera in some markets (for example: Thailand) is sold as a Canon EOS 200DII (Mark II). Great video by the way!
Nigel is using a Canon SL3 DSLR. I am still using my Canon SL1.
For landscape this camera could be enough, when you shoot F8 up. For portraits or wildlife not so much. This camera do not have lens micro adjustment setting, so if it's off a bit with focus with the lens you got, you gonna have soft pictures at lower apertures :(. I got 200D and it was really hard to get spot on focus with 1.8 or 2.8 lens with it. But with apertures 7.1 up it was even capturing really good panning shots of fast moving cars, although hit ratio was not that good. Mirrorless is an answer here, cause in most cases you won't need any micro adjustments because of how focus is gathered in mirrorless vs dslrs.
I once had a 1200D, vastly inferior to your 200D and I never had focusing issues with moving subjects with lenses wide open. The only lens I've ever owned which needed micro AF adjustments was a Tamron 18-400mm on an 80D. I've had Canon for over 30yrs and none of my Canon lenses have had AF issues.
@@cooloox It depends of the quality of mirror attachement (Gerald Undone explains it in one of his videos). I guess my copy of the camera got focus or mine mirror slightly off. Now I switched to Sony A6400 and with the same cheap canon lens on MC-11 focus is spot on in most of the photos taken. You can adjust the mirror with the adjust screw, but for me it was to complicated thing to do. Professionals can do it, but it costs additional money and result may vary for different lenses. I'm not saying 200D is a bad camera. I was using it for almost a year and got some amazing photos with it (even wildlife). But with 9 point of AF it's sometime really hard to shoot small bird. Sure you can do MF, but MF on EVF (A6400 for example) is much easier because of MF assistants (either peeking or MF zoom). So as Nigel said in one of his videos cheap camera could be enough, but you have to know what you gonna shot, not to be disappointed with the results. Oh and that crippled hotshoe on 250D is really bad move of Canon.
Lol. For portraits its enought. Even for fashion or beauty. I would prefer something better for weddings etc., because of AF.
I agree!
I use 600d(x2) + wireless flashes (studio and event work)...good when staying aware of focus issues. The lack of micro adjusting is a big issue for other types of use...macro/semi-macro and telephoto, I have had a lot of experience of these issues, and they are real. I have tested mine and both of them front focus! If someone doesn't experience them they may have a good copy where the adjustment is spot on but on the other hand, they may not be a pixel peeper (as I am). Over the years people have referenced this problem but they won't get a reference to lack of micro adjustment. On occasions, I will have to use my Samsung NX11 (mirrorless) which is spot on for macro work and with good live view performance, the 600d can't generally be used in live view (2 to 4 seconds to focus...no dual pixel). Pros and cons but never rely on one review!
The 200d, 250d can be considered as a mirrorless with an optical viewfinder.
Sub £1000 (variable) DSLRs cannot be micro-adjusted, this is a lot of money to invest in a camera and possible expensive glass. Canons dual pixel is very good so beginners need to be aware that if they like to use live view, make sure it has dual pixel!
I won't upgrade my cameras until they pack in but keeping up with the way technology is progressing is vital. Lots of great photographers are invested and experienced in the gear they have and if it's working for them...great but in 2019 for a new photographer moving into photography they need to be aware of the pro photographer who hasn't moved with the times', even this photographer has moved into mirrorless (Nikon Z7).
The problem is not the lens and the camera but mostly photographer error. Once a lens focuses, it will always focus until you press the shutter button unles you pick the wrong focus point.
Canon's kit lens works best stopped down. f/8 to f/16
Fantastic shots my friend!🙏
What a wonderful review. This is sure different than Chris and Jordan’s stuffs, but you got your own great style. Keep it up man!
The tool can only do so much and as my tutor has always said its best to be able to take a great photo rather than having the best tools
Nice rundown. Cheers!
Nice work Nigel.
Confused between sl3 (this) and the m50...
As a budget backup camera for weddings...
Every comment on YT saying m50
But then again those commenters on YT.
Anyway i understand sl3 has a lot more focusing points than the m50..
Confused
DPReview filming back in the UK again? Where are the nice Canadians? 😁
Thanks for this video, I really appreciate your insight. I've been using no professional M43 for 3-4 years now but I'm considering moving up to an affordable, reasonable size 24+mp SLR. I had looked at the original Canon SL a few years back but passed on it. The New Canon SL3 is looking pretty good now. If only I had your composition skills....
You don't need a new camera to improve your skills.
You might watch a few James Popsys videos, to find out why he switched from Nikon to Panasonic.
I think it's gonna be my first cameras.
My too...
I'm Gonna get this beast after a week ♥️
@@angatkaycee4060 I still should collect my money, I think I need 6 months more 😭
@@dafi8342 no problem brother your dream will come true 💕
@@angatkaycee4060 ameen, thanks 🙏
This proves what I say all the time, that gear is irrelevant. It is the creative mind behind the viewfinder that makes the difference.
This is the same camera I just bought and I'm really impressed by it. However, I came directly from a Digital Rebel 300D 6.3MP dinosaur, so there's that.
great content!
Please don't kill DSLR, i'm mirrorless user but mirrorless is rarely get 350 shot of photos, but with dslr you can easy get 500 shot in one charge. That's the thing i didn't get with mirrorless 😢
This is my next buy.
Great video, but, you did pictures that fit perfectly the camera specs, maybe in other conditions it isn’t very good camera, anyway you took amazing shots in the right conditions for that camera! (sorry for my English)
Right. The SL3 has no weather sealing, a primitive autofocus system through the viewfinder, and a slow burst rate. It will really let you down with moving subjects.
For the same money, you're much better off getting a gently used camera with better features. May I recommend the original Olympus OM-D E-M1 with 14-150mm f4.0-5.6 II lens? You can find that camera used for very little money (even with very few shutter variations), and it's extremely powerful. The only thing I don't like about my E-M1 is the video quality, but it's still usable for beginners.
If you must have APS-C, the Sony a6000 is a better choice than the SL3 even though it doesn't have weather sealing either. And, if you must have Canon, try the EOS M5 or M50.
@@danieldougan269 This video is about photography, not cameras. Choose any cheap 24 megapixel ILC, the outcomes will be much the same.
They don't make bad sensors anymore.
It is a simpler bodies canon, with less functionality, so easier on the beginner. And yet a lot further and more capable then the old photographers had. So, yeah they kinda work and are fine.
Now, don't get me wrong, I do like the modern additions we have. Better, quicker focus, easier handling, extra tools... as long as the camera is seen as a tool all is fine. But in the end, it is about getting a picture, a moment caught in time, and again, there are no bad sensors anymore. Some are a bit better than others, but even the most simple of sensors is still pretty darn good by old standards. And for that price, it is a good begin, right? Leaves you more money for some decent lenses.
Canon still makes one sensor that is definitely bad. The one in the 6D II and EOS RP is based on 7 year old tech. Its performance is dismal:
www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%206D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%20RP,Sony%20ILCE-7M3
The skies would be far more clipped in the images in the video than with just the SL3, which significantly outperforms the 6DII/EOS RP sensor at base ISO, making it the superior landscape camera:
www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%206D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%20800D,Canon%20EOS%20RP
He had really fortunate light.
I agree with the sentiment that a camera is a a tool and it shouldn't hold you back, that being said, would it be possible to have these videos in 4K, youtube compression is wrecking havoc on all the greenery shots and photos in 1080p.
It's interesting the TH-cam algorithms will now only allow 4K if your screen and likely your graphics card too are able to reproduce it. I have a "decent" monitor and a "decent" graphics card but nothing above 1080 60p shows on the YT quality list. It used to and I would try it but I used to get lots of random pixelization so had to switch back to 1080. An upgrade is on the list but expensive to get both at the same time. I will try a card first.
Real entry level camera would be a 2000d (t7 in the us)
For that price I would get a used 5d mark ii with a 17-40mm, since that lens sell for like 350 used and the 5d mark ii its like 450 used. But the thing is get a camera and learn how to shoot, get better, craft your skills and start editing them. After that you might get a new lens, and the quality of the lens is what makes the image good or bad, not that much the sensor soo invest in good lens and dont buy many cheap lens but buy one good lens. Thats my advice. And really nice video! I would like to see you guys using older gear with older lens to show peole that they can get great images with used cheap gear and they dont need to pay that much gor a good combo.
To be honest, i wouldnt do that anymore. the sensor on the 250D is much better than the 5DII sensor. especially when it comes to dynamic range.
Also for video its much more usable with the dualpixel AF and eye AF.
I've had a 5Dmkiii and a 50D and the 250D has beat them both small light and with Digic8 and full 4k HD eyeA/f and the amazing 1000+ shot count. The 5D's not been out once since I've owned it fantastic little camera much more than a newbie unit it's almost the same as the new 850D at a fraction of the price. For once a real bargain from Canon
Yes, compared to digital cameras from 10 years ago this far exceeds in every department. But new high value kit makes it easier, I think that is the point now, the quality difference is minimal or can be worked around....Thanks
The problem is, in IQ, Canon is just catching up to 10 years ago:
www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%2080D,Nikon%20D7000
Hah, Florida State University ball cap...go Seminoles!
San Francisco, actually
Nicholas Jones uh, no. it’s trade marked. It has the ‘47 athletic gear logo on side. FSU branding. Go Noles!
The sunset shots definitely show what a better camera could get you. The sky wouldn't have been clipped into the middle of the image. There would instead be full cloud detail there, as the off-screen sun is the true clipping point. Any recent APS-C from Nikon, Pentax, or Sony (and maybe Fuji) would have been able to fix that, along with any recent FF except the EOS RP or 6D II.
Thats kinda nonsense. the 250D sensor is basically the 80D sensor. which also has really good dynamic range. very similar to the Sony A6500 for example.
Even the predecessor the 200D had pretty good DR already. There is not really difference anymore between the APS-C canon cameras and other brands.
Good explanation but I can definitely tell the difference between the quality of the kit lens and something a bit beefier.
Shoulda pulled your hood up... Loved the video though!
Next, Canon m100?
LOL!!! What new shooter uses a tripod, bracketing and focus stacking?
New? Unlikely but certainly someone without a big budget but who knows the value of good tools.
ho the 250D ....the much watered down 200D
Canon crippled their sl3.
Hi Nigel, Best Wishes for 2021 ! Thanks for that review, I'm owner of a 250D and a 100D , I've always ben impressed by the quality of their 18-55 kit lenses...and quite upset of the 50mm1.8, so bland and missing contrast... I'm also using a 24mm 2.8 which is my favorite street photo lens. You can see my BnW work on Insta: christian_henry.poli
Have a nice day !
24 megapixels? Luxury! When I was a lad we would DREAM of 24 megapixels ... ;-)
Why?
For what you are shooting the 250D sensor is indeed good enough. However, showing us the results of a $100 kit lens and saying it is fantastic is highly misleading even for a gent whose every other word uttered is a "superlative." Are you saying that the results of the 250D with high quality glass would be the same or would such be incredibly fantastic times ten!
Actually it's not an entry level camera!😬
Not worth mentioning the price in pounds?
For this amount of money, I think you better of buying a used (semi)-pro camera from around 2014.
D P review eh....
Redo the video but using expensive glass
18- 55 kit lens @ about 8mins 10s it looks more a shift lens than a kit lens , never seen a kit lens do that !
how ever nice video for beginners .
I could do it with a phone : )
$650 would get you a Nikon D700 with a 50mm 1.8 lens with some spare cash. Skip the low end cameras they are terrible value.
depends on what you looking for. as a landscape camera you are right. but as a beginners camera, i wouldnt put a D700 in the hands of a beginner. the 250D is super easy to use. especially with the dual pixel touch AF, Super intuitive menu, Wifi funktions for your smartphone and so on.
@@MikedieONE The D700 was just an example. The used market is so full of great deals, that it makes buying new just a waste of money!
@They Caged Non the idiots. So me and you benefit.
its when you have to review a really boring camera and a very boring lens :D
They Caged Non has a different approach to controls(fuji or leica), the lens has bokeh etc, this is all menu camera, there is nothing in it thats done for a photographer, its 100% marketed, its not allowed to be good but can be decent, its not allowed to be comfortable or well thought out as it will rival more expensive cameras..
@They Caged Non well, its nice that you are happy with your camera, many people are, but imagine you are doing a review of a camera that havent changed since the invention of 300d, so if you done 1 review of a camera like that, youve done them all, thats where my comment comes from, and thats why we see a pretty video with sceneries instead of a technical review
@They Caged Non well I think it depends on a person you are recommending to, I wouldnt recommend a d750 but I would recommend a 6d mk1 with a cheap youngnuo 50mm lens, but for someone that most probably will never buy a second lens I would recommend to go mirrorless - olympus m10 mk3 for example or a sony rx1 if rich ;]
my first dslr was kodak dcs 520 and I loved it ;] so really it depends on a person
They Caged Non all these good for nothing hasselblads and leicasonics :))) fuji system is great, but a bit pricey, I had it for a while but then fell in love with omd :))