@@afgh1408 it really is a fantastic game. I still replay it two or 3 times a year on gamecube. The gameplay and sountrack are top notch. Great maps and missions. Love it.
@@UseHerNiem I honestly think it's the best Tony Hawk clone ever! I also love how you can use cheat to see where the gaps are. It's probably the only TH that I mastered 100%
Having tortured myself a bit playing this game i discovered you can guaranteed perform a manual if your second input is held down, so when you do up up or down down, the second up/down must be held down. Also on the challenge with the 525 meter grind, you can begin a combo anywhere in the level, rack up some grind meter and then grind any one of the rails which makes it a little easier. This game seems like they didn't have enough time to QA test a lot of things. I think it's not terrible, but not good either. When you get enough respect points and attempt the competition levels, they are BRUTAL. You can get a 500k+ run and the judges will still not be happy with your score, the scoring system seems nonsensical. I complain about Tony Hawk's competitions being too easy, but god the competitions in this game are brutal. The trick system is pretty damn amazing in this game, it's just a shame they couldn't iron out all the clunky parts of the physics and the annoying collision detection.
Whoever told you this was good, definitely lied. I remember as a kid at one house I had Tony Hawk on PS2 and at the other I had this on Xbox (the advantages of being a kid with divorced parents lol). I remember having no other games on Xbox and being stuck with this and just longing to play Tony Hawk the whole time. All of your complaints here were exactly mine back then. Hated the first level, could never figure out how to do the rail grind, always got lost in every level, controls never felt tight, everything just overall very sloppy and clunky as you said. As someone who played this back then, I don't remember it any differently. I believe BMX XXX did actually tighten up a lot of the mechanics, I think - I dont remember where I even played it lol. I think you could get away with covering BMX XXX on this channel, just skip the stripper vids, don't play as nude characters, and mute during any super offensive dialogue. Another great video as usual Rad Rat!
Ya the thousands of ppl who liked this game must of lied yah that must be it 🤦♂️ , not that you suck or don’t know how to play the game properly..... this game is pure butter if you know how to play it properly. It’s called a learning curve. “tHiS gAmE iS hArD, i DoNt kNoW hOw tO pLaY, tHaT mEaNs iT’s bAd” 😐
“Could never figure out how to do the rail grind, always got lost in every level” Lack of intelligence and poor sense of direction.....? 🤔 Those sound like “you” problems
“Controls never felt tight....overall very sloppy and clunky” lack of dexterity and hand eye coordination much? 🤔 again...... more “ you” problems Also sounds like you don’t understand bicycles let alone BMX
I'll defend this game intelligently to a TH-cam legend, that guy can go to hell. There's 2 key things RadRat didn't know about in this video that make this game functional. The first is the trick modifier system which is actually pretty brilliant and ahead of it's time. I can't remember which buttons correspond to which tricks because it's been years since I played it on PS2, but when you do a trick like a backflip or superman or turndown or whatever, you can keep holding the square button and hit circle button plus a direction and modify it to be no handed or one handed or cross legged or whatever. The other is that landing from vert to a manual actually increases your speed greatly, which is how you do the bridge transfer and upper level awning challenges in the last level in this video. That said, there are a lot of challenges in this game that are total BS for how the physics engine, controls and trick system work, like that 525 foot rail grind in the first level. I did it before, but I don't know how I did it looking back.
I have fond memories of this game and especially its soundtrack. Admittedly I haven’t played it in 15 years but I remember some challenges being impossible and the level editor being leaps and bounds ahead of the Tony hawk games.
Xin is currently doing an 100% let's play on his game as of posting this comment and it destoryed him. completly drained him out and made him near-depressed from months of playing the game. i'm not kidding.
I'm forever protecting this game rad rat! I SHALL NOT LET YOU THROW IT FROM IT'S THRONE!!!! It's one of funnest games on the ps2 and 100% recommend it don't listen to rad rat 😂😭
I think the giant levels is the best part of Dave Mirra 2 for me. as an arcade experience like THPS games it fails miserably, I think I always just used the unlock all levels cheat as a kid and would just spend hours cruising around and finding gaps. I also think the variety of tricks in that game was really good, I think you had to do certain directional inputs and there was different variations of these tricks too if my memory serves me right
Seriously, I used to spend hours just exploring all the levels. Especially the first one. Playing around grinding the go karts, trying to get on top of the pool slide, ragdolling and grabbing the moving cars.
I love how you tackle these games from both a gamer perspective AND a skater perspective (or just general extreme sports). The review was really funny!
The 1st Dave Mirra had a challenge about grinding a wire for some hundred ft but you have to unlock a better bike/stats and go back then do it you can't do it with the first bike why idk lol.
Hey man, you might give a try to Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX, which is made using THPS formula. If you remember, back in those days, Activision decided to capitalize on the success of the Tony Hawk series and established O2 department dedicated specifically to making extreme sports games: Mat Hoffmann's Pro BMX 1-2, Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder, and many others. I've beaten the first Mat Hoffman game about 10 years ago and I remember I quite liked it, however you pointed out correctly that the control over the BMX is significantly less fluid and comfortable comparing to skateboarder. Anyway, I think you might give it a shot
Not even going to watch the video if you're bashing Dave Mirra 2... Played it a ton back in the day and even a couple of years ago on a PS2 and it's still amazing. If you don't like it then you probably just suck at it. It flows really well and once you get a few of the tricks down and the timing of the grinding it's super fun! People complain when anything isn't as good as GTA V or God Of War and it's sad. Great game from an even greater era! LONG LIVE DAVE MIRRA!
This game is amazing! it has its flaws and it can be clunky, glitchy and just brutally hard in some places. But the fun levels, fun challenges and the insanely in depth trick system (which I'm surprised you didnt talk about) makes up for it! Game has loads of replayability just like the Tony Hawk games and in my most recent play through (today) I 100% it for the first time. I have no idea why you struggled with manuals as for me I can nail them 100% of the time, and the game does tell you how to get a new bike on the loading screen it's for every 5000 respect points. neat review dude :)
I’m gonna play the devils advocate here and say ignore the other comments that say you should try Matt Hoffman and any and all other BMX games. They all play identical and are all clunky and not worth it.
Fun fact I know the original slim Jim guy his name is Steven and he in fact still rides till this day. I also know mike laird from riding bikes at Chenga way back
It kind of annoys me Rad Rat never mentions anything about the soundtrack in any game, lol. Especially how popular songs like "Goldfinger" and "No Cigar" are from playing the THPS games.
@@emaheiwa8174 Agreed! It lent a lot to the gameplay - being able to just cruise with those tracks. Music is so apart of every rose-tinted game experience from that age. And to not bring it up in any capacity for any game he reviews is insane. We get it, copywrite strikes. But to not even mention it shows apathy.
Do you even modify bro? Besides the (accidental I’m guessing) double truck driver and rocket air back flip...... You can literally one hand, one foot, no hands, no foot almost any trick/ grind / manual in the game. And doing that lets you do more complicated tricks.....
it has the best feel for this type of gameplay. i have yet to find another enjoyable bmx game that i can whiplash to nose pick to flair. people hating this game just suck at it.
I've personally played this on GameCube myself either the emulator is at fault or you were doing the wrong input for manuals which if I remember correctly the second down should always be when you hit the ground.
I agree with a lot of what radrat has to say about dm2 but it's also pretty clear he hasn't invested any time into getting good at it. I think it's stupid to complain about games being difficult. Like if they were all easy and you could do everything first try they wouldn't be any fun. The sense of achievement when I finally get the rail challenge after months of playing the game was basically the same as landing a trick in real life lol
I’m starting to feel like you just don’t have the patience for games that require you to really learn their systems because you just want to blast through the game for a review. It’s challenging and frustrating at points, but that doesn’t make it bad. Just means you have to play it more and get better. This is a classic. Loved it back then and loved it when I re-played it in college.
I think this is good game if you are willing to leave areas & come back with a better bike, but he is right about a lot. Manuals don't always work & some jobs like that grinding & destroy the awnings are ridiciously hard. I don't think anybody can do that rail thing without luck, so it's not just about getting better.
Tell em.... Lmfao. I'm not a rider and own this gem in my collection. I have played all the games. This one is the BEST!!! This Woodward is one of the best levels ever.
I'm a skater, and dabbled in bmx here and there over the last 15 years. Rat just can't play this worth a damn. The Dave Mirra series is dope af. Thrasher was too. Rad Rat is just a scrub at the game.
@@willmcg Big facts. I still could play thrasher and put down decent lines. Especially when Nollie tricks get learned. Rad rat don't know you can do modifier grinds too. Like a nosepick one footer... Or double peg No hander. Icepick barspin. He claims riding fakie isn't viable... If ya learn it tricks and stuff can be linked from fakie. Or land into it and roll out. He did admit he didn't put much effort into learning the trick system. If you double tap the manuals and hold down the second tap... He woulda did them 100%. Bruh can't game on the level. He is exposed. He don't wanna see me in THPS 1-3.
@@willmcg Me also being a skater still appreciates this dope game. And bmx ad a whole. Freestyle bmx 2 is one of those games that appeal to a certain crowd
The game is difficult, but the original consoles do work better than emulators. I had them for all 3 systems and the gamecube version works well on the wii as well. Honestly I wish they would do another bmx game similar to dave mirra, the trick system is great for bmx games.
You’re right that this game has some impossible challenges, but I think you really missed out on the trick modifying system. On PS, the circle button can be hit before a you hit triangle or square to create an insane amount of gravity defying tricks. Superman Double Backflip? No Handed Bar Spin? All possible and so much fun to play around with. Add in the rag doll physics and this game still holds up and one of my favorite action sports games.
I would consider myself a THPS veteran, but I very much enjoyed the Dave Mirra games as well. It's 2 different beasts. Tony Hawk games are pretty easy to pick up and play, as where the Dave Mirra games need some figuring-out to be had... My first 2 games on the PS1 were THPS2 and Dave Mirra 1. So maybe for me, the second game was easier to play and figure out the mechanics of it than someone who is just picking it up for the first time. Luckily I played Thrasher Skate & Destroy beforehand and maybe that acquired taste made these games easier to stomach and have fun with? Super glad you reviewed this game, though! I've been thinking of replaying it recently, so this satisfied my nostalgia-tooth and I thank you for that ☺
I used to always just fuck around on Woodward. I didn’t even care about unlocking levels, the game was just a blast to me. Remember bailing and grabbing on to the golf carts and just getting dragged around
Dave mirra 2 was more impactful to me than Tony hawk I feel. I never actually got into BMX because it was just too expensive and i was fully immersed in the viva la bam world but this game was just amazing to me.
I loved this game on Xbox when I was a teen but I tried to play it on dolphin last year and I was like, wait, I liked this game? I don't know if the gamecube version is fucked or if the emulator fucks it but man I did not have a good time. I remember it being brutally difficult too, so I don't think I want to get back into it. I'll let good memories be good memories with Dave.
I genuinely loved this game as a kid. The controls are different than THPS type input style but if you're used to it the possibilities are limitless. Comparing to Thrasher SD at all - other than ragdoll mechanics - is kinda just rude. The playstation version is *LESS* complete than game cube? That makes Zero sense. This was an early PS2 launch game. Knocking the Woodward level is insane too - this was a groundbreaking sprawling level that brought us all to a very accurate (for the time) Camp Woodward. Not trying to be mean, but I just think to enjoy this game you need to forget THPS controls and get better at this game. You really aren't scratching the surface of the creative possibilities that work with the Mirra control scheme. Also, the bikes are SO important. You're basically reviewing the game with the lowest possible stats and missing the point of the amazing trick modification system. THPS games take like 4 hours to beat - this is more like a SIM with challenges that are actually challenging.
It’s been a while but I think you can hold the hop button to ride fakie. I think you were just prejudice when making this review. Plus you might not really understand bmx and how to ride a level.
If you come back into a quarter fakie then that's your fault for not trying a realistic trick and just trying to spin as much as u can like u do in thps
This really is a good game, some people just can’t handle it. I would say the PlayStation version playes better than emulators or any other platform, but I wouldn’t know
Its kind of funny to me somehow that yoi hate of my favorite games from childhood. I will admit though that it dates itself when you revisit it, and that the soundtrack had a lot to do with why i liked it.
@@emaheiwa8174 nah I played Dave Mirra 1 a few years back and it was like someone had made a videogame version of the AIDS virus, it was virtually unplayable.
@@liamwynne566 I can do the weirdest funny tricks and unlock stuff pretty fast on the first, on the second I get lost and can't land half the things I try lol
Dave Mirra 2'ss a good game when yer just doing tricks and shit like normal, getting into a groove and nailing the lines and momentum. Objectives? They're hell
😭😭😭 The game gave me things to find without telling me where they are 😭😭😭 Lol. Love you rat. Love your work, but you were so off the mark with this one. 💚
I loved all the bmx games...even bmx xxx..abd especially matthoffman since it had thps controls. Also gamefaqs still coming in clutch 20 year later i love it haha
To be honest, the soundtrack for this game is weak. When I was little, I probably would have liked it, but it's obvious Acclaim were all like "okay, nu metal and pop punk are popular, you gotta put it in these popular artists on major labels to appeal to the MTV crowd". It just hasnt aged well. Also, it's only ten songs so it gets repetitive very quickly.
Please do the actual Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder game! I can't believe you've only done the gba version. Also wouldn't mind seeing SSX 3 since it's one of the best snowboarding games made and has a sick open world feeling that makes it really unique.
If a rail you're trying to jump to is off to the side of the one you're currently grinding, you simply have to lean towards it before jumping off the current rail. It blows my mind you didn't figure that out.
That works in most cases in this game except the 525 feet rail challenge, it's very unpredictable where your guy ends up landing and there is very little rail magnetism to snap into grinds meaning you have to be super precise. I put it down to them not having enough time to QA test their game before shipping.
It's funny how any other extreme sport like bmx snowboards fmx etc. Enjoy skateboarding, but I've never met a skateboarder that started skating first enjoy any other extreme sports
This game is flawed but I personally didn't have as many issues doing the challenges. Minus the grinding 500ft of rail and transfering the pedestrian overpass, fuck those challenges.
Maybe try reviewing games on the actual console like xbox instead of a pc emulator......could be the reason u can't control well...I played the hell out of these games on xbox when they came out and had zero problems and I was 12yo lol
Yup it also doesn’t help that he goes into the review with such edge and resentment. He doesn’t take the time to bother to learn eff all and he just whines that it’s bad cuz he doesn’t understand it. Nor does he understand BMX as a whole. And instead of taking the time to do that he’d rather 💩 on it for views.
Damn you two are salty. I have this game on the original Xbox. I played it again after this review came out and can say for certain it is very clunky. How you remember you had zero problems when you were twelve is beyond me. It’s not a perfect game so relax.
I used to play this game a lot back when it came out. Got it on discount from Blockbuster less than a year from the release. haha. But I too became quickly frustrated with the Career Mode. Eventually I found a cheat code online and opened all the levels to play them in Free Ride. Which made the game far more enjoyable. But the manuals and wallrides were pretty bad. Along with the geometry/physics when you would do double peg grinds was pretty weird, feebles usually worked best. The Swamp level was one of my favorites too. I still want to play a good BMX game. The Matt Hoffman's weren't bad. Had controls almost identical to the THPS engine. I just didn't find the levels that interesting.
I loved this game. xbox version is best IMO. the grind 525 feet frustriated me also but i got it without doing wheelies, just grinding like a old school RPG
I love this game, but playing it when I got older and understood what to do, it is definitely clunky. Giving some commentary, level design, I disagree with, especially playing the levels in "Free Ride" (if I recall the name; equivalent of "free skate") mode. That rail challenge is infamous, and your criticisms are correct; I had no issues with the manuals in the game, though (PS2 version on the PS2). With the bikes, I remember the PS2 version saying you need "X Respect" for each respective one. You also did not do any of the competitions. There is a lot nostalgia clout with this game, but I feel a lot of your issues with it are that you just do not like BMX games (as said in the beginning). I also enjoy playing "ESPN X Games Skateboard 2001," so what do I know about commenting on the quality of video games... Still appreciate you playing the game, and keep up the great content.
I loved this game as a kid, but all I ever did was use the cheats and free ride around. But all your gripes about this game are valid because it is pretty awkward and clunky
I love all those games made by z axis... All those games are classic. Those were the most realistic games at the time and were all we had.i definitely prefer those games over the arcade style of thps and Matt hoffman
I don’t remember manualing and grinding being that hard when I played back in the day. I actually remember being quite good at manuals. I think that just might be a control difference with the emulator
The fact he even reviews games on emulator when they don’t work 1 for 1 (Some emulators can’t handle waverace 64’s tricks unless you play with dead zone) is absolutely mind boggling
Bought it ps2 version around a year ago. Was super undrwhelming. The physics and ragdoll physics are more simulation like then thps and i like that better but like you said its waaay to clunky in almost every aspect (controls, map design, task design, etc). I later found out bmx triple x was kind of its sequel and wouldve loved to have that one more. At least theres a dumb theme going on. Dave m 2 has nothing.
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I’d like to see a review of Kelly Slater’s Pro Surfer.
this game's actually good.
I second this
Loved that game
Soooo relaxing to smoke a bowl and surf after a long day
Good game also . Trans world surf was goof to
You gotta do BMXXXX next, thats a great BMX game. Trust me.
Haha facts tho
Tbh it's actually a great game.
@@afgh1408 it really is a fantastic game. I still replay it two or 3 times a year on gamecube. The gameplay and sountrack are top notch. Great maps and missions. Love it.
Weird that I played that game once and I kinda liked DM Bmx. Never really played MH pro bmx or DM 2
@@UseHerNiem I honestly think it's the best Tony Hawk clone ever! I also love how you can use cheat to see where the gaps are. It's probably the only TH that I mastered 100%
I absolutely LOVED this game as a kid, it was my first trick type game.
So good.
now i love slim jims
same haha @@paddymills2144
Hell ya, this guy is just a lame
Having tortured myself a bit playing this game i discovered you can guaranteed perform a manual if your second input is held down, so when you do up up or down down, the second up/down must be held down. Also on the challenge with the 525 meter grind, you can begin a combo anywhere in the level, rack up some grind meter and then grind any one of the rails which makes it a little easier. This game seems like they didn't have enough time to QA test a lot of things. I think it's not terrible, but not good either. When you get enough respect points and attempt the competition levels, they are BRUTAL. You can get a 500k+ run and the judges will still not be happy with your score, the scoring system seems nonsensical. I complain about Tony Hawk's competitions being too easy, but god the competitions in this game are brutal. The trick system is pretty damn amazing in this game, it's just a shame they couldn't iron out all the clunky parts of the physics and the annoying collision detection.
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Honestly I liked this game, BMX XXX was the one that sucked so bad it bankrupted Z-Axis
It really isn’t
Whoever told you this was good, definitely lied. I remember as a kid at one house I had Tony Hawk on PS2 and at the other I had this on Xbox (the advantages of being a kid with divorced parents lol). I remember having no other games on Xbox and being stuck with this and just longing to play Tony Hawk the whole time. All of your complaints here were exactly mine back then. Hated the first level, could never figure out how to do the rail grind, always got lost in every level, controls never felt tight, everything just overall very sloppy and clunky as you said. As someone who played this back then, I don't remember it any differently. I believe BMX XXX did actually tighten up a lot of the mechanics, I think - I dont remember where I even played it lol. I think you could get away with covering BMX XXX on this channel, just skip the stripper vids, don't play as nude characters, and mute during any super offensive dialogue. Another great video as usual Rad Rat!
Ya the thousands of ppl who liked this game must of lied yah that must be it 🤦♂️ , not that you suck or don’t know how to play the game properly..... this game is pure butter if you know how to play it properly. It’s called a learning curve.
“tHiS gAmE iS hArD, i DoNt kNoW hOw tO pLaY, tHaT mEaNs iT’s bAd” 😐
“Could never figure out how to do the rail grind, always got lost in every level”
Lack of intelligence and poor sense of direction.....? 🤔 Those sound like “you” problems
“Controls never felt tight....overall very sloppy and clunky” lack of dexterity and hand eye coordination much? 🤔 again...... more “ you” problems
Also sounds like you don’t understand bicycles let alone BMX
Very well-spoken and thought out argument. You convinced me, this game is good.
I'll defend this game intelligently to a TH-cam legend, that guy can go to hell. There's 2 key things RadRat didn't know about in this video that make this game functional. The first is the trick modifier system which is actually pretty brilliant and ahead of it's time. I can't remember which buttons correspond to which tricks because it's been years since I played it on PS2, but when you do a trick like a backflip or superman or turndown or whatever, you can keep holding the square button and hit circle button plus a direction and modify it to be no handed or one handed or cross legged or whatever. The other is that landing from vert to a manual actually increases your speed greatly, which is how you do the bridge transfer and upper level awning challenges in the last level in this video.
That said, there are a lot of challenges in this game that are total BS for how the physics engine, controls and trick system work, like that 525 foot rail grind in the first level. I did it before, but I don't know how I did it looking back.
I have fond memories of this game and especially its soundtrack. Admittedly I haven’t played it in 15 years but I remember some challenges being impossible and the level editor being leaps and bounds ahead of the Tony hawk games.
Doin' Time mann
Xin is currently doing an 100% let's play on his game as of posting this comment and it destoryed him. completly drained him out and made him near-depressed from months of playing the game. i'm not kidding.
“meaning and happiness in real life”
feel that one man...
Hope both you and rad rat doing okay man it always makes me sad to hear rad rat feeling so down
I'm forever protecting this game rad rat! I SHALL NOT LET YOU THROW IT FROM IT'S THRONE!!!! It's one of funnest games on the ps2 and 100% recommend it don't listen to rad rat 😂😭
I think the giant levels is the best part of Dave Mirra 2 for me. as an arcade experience like THPS games it fails miserably, I think I always just used the unlock all levels cheat as a kid and would just spend hours cruising around and finding gaps. I also think the variety of tricks in that game was really good, I think you had to do certain directional inputs and there was different variations of these tricks too if my memory serves me right
Seriously, I used to spend hours just exploring all the levels. Especially the first one. Playing around grinding the go karts, trying to get on top of the pool slide, ragdolling and grabbing the moving cars.
You can mix any two tricks together. Sometimes even three or four. It's the coolest trick system and no game has ever matched it.
I was doing shit back then in the game that was unthinkable in real life. Now they're casually doing said tricks in real life wtf 🤣
I love how you tackle these games from both a gamer perspective AND a skater perspective (or just general extreme sports). The review was really funny!
The 1st Dave Mirra had a challenge about grinding a wire for some hundred ft but you have to unlock a better bike/stats and go back then do it you can't do it with the first bike why idk lol.
That first level rail challenge is cursed. I have never been able to complete it.
I did when I was 13
Done it several times, even on all 3 platforms. It's more than possible.
took me like 75 tries but i eventually got it. the worst was when i got to 500 feet and got hit by a golf cart driving by
Hey man, you might give a try to Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX, which is made using THPS formula. If you remember, back in those days, Activision decided to capitalize on the success of the Tony Hawk series and established O2 department dedicated specifically to making extreme sports games: Mat Hoffmann's Pro BMX 1-2, Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder, and many others.
I've beaten the first Mat Hoffman game about 10 years ago and I remember I quite liked it, however you pointed out correctly that the control over the BMX is significantly less fluid and comfortable comparing to skateboarder.
Anyway, I think you might give it a shot
Doesn't fill me with confidence that the worst level in THPS4 was a Hoffman level ported over.
Square Eyed Jak has a killer set of videos for the activision O2 games.
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Yeah... in his Hawktober playlist!
Matt Hoffman Pro BMX is arguably worse than Dave Mirra.
@@TheEncounterMusicthe 2nd one was better than the Dave mirra game but it came out after.
"I found this guy". Yooo have some respect that's mike laird bro hahaha
This game was so good! You gotta just do what challenges you can, and then go back repeatedly for the harder challenges.
Not even going to watch the video if you're bashing Dave Mirra 2... Played it a ton back in the day and even a couple of years ago on a PS2 and it's still amazing. If you don't like it then you probably just suck at it. It flows really well and once you get a few of the tricks down and the timing of the grinding it's super fun! People complain when anything isn't as good as GTA V or God Of War and it's sad. Great game from an even greater era! LONG LIVE DAVE MIRRA!
This game is amazing! it has its flaws and it can be clunky, glitchy and just brutally hard in some places. But the fun levels, fun challenges and the insanely in depth trick system (which I'm surprised you didnt talk about) makes up for it! Game has loads of replayability just like the Tony Hawk games and in my most recent play through (today) I 100% it for the first time. I have no idea why you struggled with manuals as for me I can nail them 100% of the time, and the game does tell you how to get a new bike on the loading screen it's for every 5000 respect points. neat review dude :)
I played this on ps2 really nostalgic even for being a skater
I’m gonna play the devils advocate here and say ignore the other comments that say you should try Matt Hoffman and any and all other BMX games. They all play identical and are all clunky and not worth it.
You should give Rolling a try. It's a rollerblading game that was only released in Europe, but shouldn't be a big deal to run it on emulator.
I'll be honest, at first I thought you were talking about taking Molly.
Great game
Maaan tell em. I still haven't played Rolling... I am a blader still to this day. I wanted to play as Julio soo bad.
I’m getting old. I remember playing the demo 15 + years ago when it came in a magazine
Was this the game you can play as a slim jim??
Yes it was
He was in both Dave Mirra games!
@@tombstonejones9581 sick
Fun fact I know the original slim Jim guy his name is Steven and he in fact still rides till this day. I also know mike laird from riding bikes at Chenga way back
Lol damn, I loved this game so much.
Soundtrack is amazing too.
It kind of annoys me Rad Rat never mentions anything about the soundtrack in any game, lol. Especially how popular songs like "Goldfinger" and "No Cigar" are from playing the THPS games.
@@TheAvi8tor55 he's said before he doesn't really listen to/like music which is yet another strike against this nerd
Yah man it’s cuz he’s basic AF
The soundtrack is the only good thing about this game. She sells sanctuary, all my fault... A lot of good songs
@@emaheiwa8174 Agreed! It lent a lot to the gameplay - being able to just cruise with those tracks. Music is so apart of every rose-tinted game experience from that age. And to not bring it up in any capacity for any game he reviews is insane. We get it, copywrite strikes. But to not even mention it shows apathy.
Rip the goat Dave Mirra and for kids who loved bmx this was the best on a rainy day
she sells sanctuary blasting on a crappy midwest overcast day. time was different
Do you even modify bro?
Besides the (accidental I’m guessing) double truck driver and rocket air back flip......
You can literally one hand, one foot, no hands, no foot almost any trick/ grind / manual in the game. And doing that lets you do more complicated tricks.....
it has the best feel for this type of gameplay. i have yet to find another enjoyable bmx game that i can whiplash to nose pick to flair. people hating this game just suck at it.
I've personally played this on GameCube myself either the emulator is at fault or you were doing the wrong input for manuals which if I remember correctly the second down should always be when you hit the ground.
I agree with a lot of what radrat has to say about dm2 but it's also pretty clear he hasn't invested any time into getting good at it.
I think it's stupid to complain about games being difficult. Like if they were all easy and you could do everything first try they wouldn't be any fun. The sense of achievement when I finally get the rail challenge after months of playing the game was basically the same as landing a trick in real life lol
I love the sass 😂 "think again idiot." (Paraphrasing) You're clearly so mad about it hahaha
I’m starting to feel like you just don’t have the patience for games that require you to really learn their systems because you just want to blast through the game for a review. It’s challenging and frustrating at points, but that doesn’t make it bad. Just means you have to play it more and get better. This is a classic. Loved it back then and loved it when I re-played it in college.
I think this is good game if you are willing to leave areas & come back with a better bike, but he is right about a lot. Manuals don't always work & some jobs like that grinding & destroy the awnings are ridiciously hard. I don't think anybody can do that rail thing without luck, so it's not just about getting better.
Facts. And he don’t respond. No wonder he got dumped lol dudes a chump
This was a get good game I loved it
bruh I was doin the 170m grind thing for litteral hours and I grew up with this game its jank
I was good at that game. It was way better then Tony hawk
There’s something so therapeutic about watching Rad Rat suffer through a crappy GameCube game from 20 years ago.
Rest in peace Dave Mirra. Any bmx rider adores this game, sorry you dont know how to play, try eating more slim jims.
Straight up bro
Tell em.... Lmfao. I'm not a rider and own this gem in my collection. I have played all the games. This one is the BEST!!! This Woodward is one of the best levels ever.
I'm a skater, and dabbled in bmx here and there over the last 15 years. Rat just can't play this worth a damn. The Dave Mirra series is dope af. Thrasher was too. Rad Rat is just a scrub at the game.
@@willmcg Big facts. I still could play thrasher and put down decent lines. Especially when Nollie tricks get learned. Rad rat don't know you can do modifier grinds too. Like a nosepick one footer... Or double peg No hander. Icepick barspin. He claims riding fakie isn't viable... If ya learn it tricks and stuff can be linked from fakie. Or land into it and roll out. He did admit he didn't put much effort into learning the trick system. If you double tap the manuals and hold down the second tap... He woulda did them 100%. Bruh can't game on the level. He is exposed. He don't wanna see me in THPS 1-3.
@@willmcg Me also being a skater still appreciates this dope game. And bmx ad a whole. Freestyle bmx 2 is one of those games that appeal to a certain crowd
The game is difficult, but the original consoles do work better than emulators. I had them for all 3 systems and the gamecube version works well on the wii as well.
Honestly I wish they would do another bmx game similar to dave mirra, the trick system is great for bmx games.
I remember doing that stupid grind challenge forever when I played it on PS2. Brought back that anger 20 years later. Thanks Rad Rat...
You’re right that this game has some impossible challenges, but I think you really missed out on the trick modifying system. On PS, the circle button can be hit before a you hit triangle or square to create an insane amount of gravity defying tricks. Superman Double Backflip? No Handed Bar Spin? All possible and so much fun to play around with. Add in the rag doll physics and this game still holds up and one of my favorite action sports games.
Best trick system ever!
I would consider myself a THPS veteran, but I very much enjoyed the Dave Mirra games as well. It's 2 different beasts. Tony Hawk games are pretty easy to pick up and play, as where the Dave Mirra games need some figuring-out to be had... My first 2 games on the PS1 were THPS2 and Dave Mirra 1. So maybe for me, the second game was easier to play and figure out the mechanics of it than someone who is just picking it up for the first time.
Luckily I played Thrasher Skate & Destroy beforehand and maybe that acquired taste made these games easier to stomach and have fun with?
Super glad you reviewed this game, though! I've been thinking of replaying it recently, so this satisfied my nostalgia-tooth and I thank you for that ☺
c'mon rad rat SSX3 this winter let's go you can do this - you deserve to treat yourself to a decent game this christmas
Aye back in the day this was the skate 2 of BMX games
3:49: he just described Woodward in real life.
Without watching the video yet. I loved this game! The soundtrack was awesome.
I used to always just fuck around on Woodward. I didn’t even care about unlocking levels, the game was just a blast to me. Remember bailing and grabbing on to the golf carts and just getting dragged around
Dave mirra 2 was more impactful to me than Tony hawk I feel. I never actually got into BMX because it was just too expensive and i was fully immersed in the viva la bam world but this game was just amazing to me.
I loved this game on Xbox when I was a teen but I tried to play it on dolphin last year and I was like, wait, I liked this game?
I don't know if the gamecube version is fucked or if the emulator fucks it but man I did not have a good time. I remember it being brutally difficult too, so I don't think I want to get back into it. I'll let good memories be good memories with Dave.
Lmao it was this exact challenge that made me nope out!
Nah this game wasnt bad
Screw that multiple rail transfer on the woodward level. I somehow got it when I was in 5th grade...but holy fuck lol
I loved the differences between this and mat Hoffman
Legit was one of my favorite games on ps2 such a blast
I spent probably half of my life playing this game and I still love it. Mirra forever.
I genuinely loved this game as a kid. The controls are different than THPS type input style but if you're used to it the possibilities are limitless. Comparing to Thrasher SD at all - other than ragdoll mechanics - is kinda just rude. The playstation version is *LESS* complete than game cube? That makes Zero sense. This was an early PS2 launch game. Knocking the Woodward level is insane too - this was a groundbreaking sprawling level that brought us all to a very accurate (for the time) Camp Woodward. Not trying to be mean, but I just think to enjoy this game you need to forget THPS controls and get better at this game. You really aren't scratching the surface of the creative possibilities that work with the Mirra control scheme. Also, the bikes are SO important. You're basically reviewing the game with the lowest possible stats and missing the point of the amazing trick modification system. THPS games take like 4 hours to beat - this is more like a SIM with challenges that are actually challenging.
did you seriously just say JK lolling? Genius lol
I know you are not about to tear up dave mirra 2 like it's nothing this game was a *legendary* classic 😂
I loved this game in 2002 currently wishing I had the GameCube and could play this!
I remember renting the gamecube version back in 2004, raging at some of the goals in the forest style area while Sublimes What I Got plays
It’s been a while but I think you can hold the hop button to ride fakie. I think you were just prejudice when making this review. Plus you might not really understand bmx and how to ride a level.
Children: 100% Dave Mirra 2
Rad Rat: I can't do it so it's impossible.
He made me laugh during the mystery guy part and the rail transfer part with what he was saying
If you come back into a quarter fakie then that's your fault for not trying a realistic trick and just trying to spin as much as u can like u do in thps
At least the soundtrack was excellent, what with RATM, Black Sabbath, Sublime, ATCQ and Gang Starr
Mann for real, Moment of Truth is one of my favorite songs ever
I love this game but your complaints are valid.
Ok i loved this game, but this review is probably the funniest youve done
Hope Matt Hoffman pro BMX is next
This really is a good game, some people just can’t handle it. I would say the PlayStation version playes better than emulators or any other platform, but I wouldn’t know
I've been subbed for 4 years just to hear RR say "guess again bitch."
The grind sound is now seared into my brain
Its kind of funny to me somehow that yoi hate of my favorite games from childhood. I will admit though that it dates itself when you revisit it, and that the soundtrack had a lot to do with why i liked it.
Whaaaat? This game was awesome back in the day, I guess it's not aged well
The first DM bmx still holds up. This? Nope
Nah man he just sucks at it
@@emaheiwa8174 nah I played Dave Mirra 1 a few years back and it was like someone had made a videogame version of the AIDS virus, it was virtually unplayable.
@@liamwynne566 I can do the weirdest funny tricks and unlock stuff pretty fast on the first, on the second I get lost and can't land half the things I try lol
@@akoyash9964 ok bud
Dave Mirra 2'ss a good game when yer just doing tricks and shit like normal, getting into a groove and nailing the lines and momentum. Objectives? They're hell
The gameplay is fine, the objectives and career is stupid though
😭😭😭 The game gave me things to find without telling me where they are 😭😭😭
Lol. Love you rat. Love your work, but you were so off the mark with this one. 💚
I loved all the bmx games...even bmx xxx..abd especially matthoffman since it had thps controls. Also gamefaqs still coming in clutch 20 year later i love it haha
To be honest, the soundtrack for this game is weak. When I was little, I probably would have liked it, but it's obvious Acclaim were all like "okay, nu metal and pop punk are popular, you gotta put it in these popular artists on major labels to appeal to the MTV crowd". It just hasnt aged well. Also, it's only ten songs so it gets repetitive very quickly.
Please do the actual Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder game! I can't believe you've only done the gba version. Also wouldn't mind seeing SSX 3 since it's one of the best snowboarding games made and has a sick open world feeling that makes it really unique.
O yea AND THAT SOUNDTRACK!
The first Dave Mirra game had a sick soundtrack. I still get nostalgia everytime I hear Deftones.
this introduced me to the cult man good old times
If a rail you're trying to jump to is off to the side of the one you're currently grinding, you simply have to lean towards it before jumping off the current rail. It blows my mind you didn't figure that out.
That works in most cases in this game except the 525 feet rail challenge, it's very unpredictable where your guy ends up landing and there is very little rail magnetism to snap into grinds meaning you have to be super precise. I put it down to them not having enough time to QA test their game before shipping.
It's funny how any other extreme sport like bmx snowboards fmx etc. Enjoy skateboarding, but I've never met a skateboarder that started skating first enjoy any other extreme sports
The gba pro skater games were pretty decent. Most of them at least.
Underground 2 and sk8land were the ones to avoid
@@WoddCar Sk8land was impressive. Just not good
@@sybrstupidhead5526 I’m talking about the gba one, not the ds game, the ds game was good
@@WoddCar ik. It was very impressive for a NBA game, no matter how trash it was
This game is flawed but I personally didn't have as many issues doing the challenges. Minus the grinding 500ft of rail and transfering the pedestrian overpass, fuck those challenges.
Maybe try reviewing games on the actual console like xbox instead of a pc emulator......could be the reason u can't control well...I played the hell out of these games on xbox when they came out and had zero problems and I was 12yo lol
Yup it also doesn’t help that he goes into the review with such edge and resentment. He doesn’t take the time to bother to learn eff all and he just whines that it’s bad cuz he doesn’t understand it. Nor does he understand BMX as a whole. And instead of taking the time to do that he’d rather 💩 on it for views.
Damn you two are salty. I have this game on the original Xbox. I played it again after this review came out and can say for certain it is very clunky. How you remember you had zero problems when you were twelve is beyond me. It’s not a perfect game so relax.
HAY!!!!! In my defence I didn't even know about tha game.
I feel like this game would've been fine if they gave you more time to play or get rid of the clock.
Thrasher s&d is a national treasure
I used to play this game a lot back when it came out. Got it on discount from Blockbuster less than a year from the release. haha. But I too became quickly frustrated with the Career Mode. Eventually I found a cheat code online and opened all the levels to play them in Free Ride. Which made the game far more enjoyable. But the manuals and wallrides were pretty bad. Along with the geometry/physics when you would do double peg grinds was pretty weird, feebles usually worked best. The Swamp level was one of my favorites too. I still want to play a good BMX game. The Matt Hoffman's weren't bad. Had controls almost identical to the THPS engine. I just didn't find the levels that interesting.
And a small thing but from what I can tell, manuals work by pressing down then holding down
"Guess Again Bitch."
RadRat 2020
I forgot it even played this game back in the day, i dont think i ever got past the farm level
As a kid I loved just free skating and not doing the challenges that’s probably why it was fun to me
I loved this game. xbox version is best IMO. the grind 525 feet frustriated me also but i got it without doing wheelies, just grinding like a old school RPG
yee more maps on the xbox version
I love this game, but playing it when I got older and understood what to do, it is definitely clunky. Giving some commentary, level design, I disagree with, especially playing the levels in "Free Ride" (if I recall the name; equivalent of "free skate") mode. That rail challenge is infamous, and your criticisms are correct; I had no issues with the manuals in the game, though (PS2 version on the PS2). With the bikes, I remember the PS2 version saying you need "X Respect" for each respective one. You also did not do any of the competitions.
There is a lot nostalgia clout with this game, but I feel a lot of your issues with it are that you just do not like BMX games (as said in the beginning). I also enjoy playing "ESPN X Games Skateboard 2001," so what do I know about commenting on the quality of video games... Still appreciate you playing the game, and keep up the great content.
I loved this game as a kid, but all I ever did was use the cheats and free ride around. But all your gripes about this game are valid because it is pretty awkward and clunky
The rail transfers aren't hard, lean towards the next one, bunnyhop off and HOLD triangle. You were probably tapping it.
“i DoNt KnOW hOw tO dO tHe cHaLLenge, ThAT mEaNs ThE GaME iS bAd”
Loved this game and it's soundtrack.
I love all those games made by z axis... All those games are classic. Those were the most realistic games at the time and were all we had.i definitely prefer those games over the arcade style of thps and Matt hoffman
first time ive heard rat rat say bitch
You have to play it on XBOX or Playstation else it's not the same. This game is actually amazing
I don’t remember manualing and grinding being that hard when I played back in the day. I actually remember being quite good at manuals. I think that just might be a control difference with the emulator
I also remember it having a decent soundtrack with some chill songs. Sublime, sum 41, gang starr etc
The fact he even reviews games on emulator when they don’t work 1 for 1
(Some emulators can’t handle waverace 64’s tricks unless you play with dead zone) is absolutely mind boggling
That's what I'm saying. You could basically manual forever until you come to a dead stop. It was sooooo easy and satisfying.
I loved that game, it was sort of broken but playable. I beat it, it was really cool I thought
I loved this game though :(
Its aged bad
@@Beengus August 15 2021 just had a get together with old friends they all loved it stop lying !!
@@goharderthanyesterday3935 nostalgia
@@Beengus Never played until today I swear lol .. Cant say much for the story mode but the free ride is hella fun
@@goharderthanyesterday3935 yeah ill agree with free ride being fun but the challenges are annoying
Bought it ps2 version around a year ago. Was super undrwhelming. The physics and ragdoll physics are more simulation like then thps and i like that better but like you said its waaay to clunky in almost every aspect (controls, map design, task design, etc). I later found out bmx triple x was kind of its sequel and wouldve loved to have that one more. At least theres a dumb theme going on. Dave m 2 has nothing.