Cases With The Most INSANE Twists You've Ever Heard | Episode 2

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  • @laurahughes8902
    @laurahughes8902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7649

    You know you watch too many true crime channels when they start overlapping and you hear the same stories from every channel. Each time it’s covered it’s done differently though so I still watch hoping to hear new information. Plus, the raven is an amazing story teller so I don’t mind.

    • @ilonamasesie8963
      @ilonamasesie8963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Girl same!!!

    • @oliviawilliams6524
      @oliviawilliams6524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      These are all from forensic files episodes

    • @melissaschreiber7
      @melissaschreiber7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You know I think it's ridiculous how many years these guys set on death row before they're killed living off the states money the taxpayers money just inject them and get it over with already

    • @deedansby6419
      @deedansby6419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      It is and I'm also familiar with the "List Murders" 😂😂😂 Lord I need new hobby and friends

    • @deedansby6419
      @deedansby6419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Girl I do the same and i just started watching the first Few mins and if this is the one about the "serial killer real estate agent" I need a new hobby 😂😂😂

  • @princessofhardrock3934
    @princessofhardrock3934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2357

    Only 6 years for drugging and assaulting a woman?!?! And all that B.S. with using someone else’s blood? What is wrong with the system?

    • @Maxbps88
      @Maxbps88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Exactly. And drugging and raping his step-daughter?!?!? He should get life for both w/o parole. We have to reverse Liberal-Democrat criminal policies.

    • @horrific_dream7111
      @horrific_dream7111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At the very least he will forever be a registered sex offender so everyone will know.

    • @obecity8227
      @obecity8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i agree thats fuckin bsss. mans was faking tests for years and there was 0 punishment for that?

    • @Candy-xk6gg
      @Candy-xk6gg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he also drugged and raped his daughter multiple times...

    • @prettylily247
      @prettylily247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      After all the stress that lady went through, he was given just 6years too bad

  • @wowyathink5982
    @wowyathink5982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1985

    I’d heard the story about the murders at the motor bike shop but had not heard about the whole DNA mix-up. That is insane! I cannot imagine how she felt.

    • @hardver8855
      @hardver8855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Todd Kohlepp killed the 4 people at Bikeshop. The same guy who was caught by having captives at his property. He killed two more people and luckily one girl escaped i think and got help or he was a suspect in their missing people cases.

    • @meganlangreck2488
      @meganlangreck2488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      So much stress and mistreatment at such an awful time. A brand new baby, and a violent crime against a loved one -- and getting grilled and accused like that.

    • @marcusmoore5191
      @marcusmoore5191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yep keystone cops ruin investigations and innocent peoples lives every day

    • @isabellaangeline2175
      @isabellaangeline2175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Knowing how narcissistic and asshole like cops are, they most likely didn’t even say sorry.

    • @peppermintpetty6766
      @peppermintpetty6766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Me neither! Ifelt so bad for her! That was awful!

  • @djm8814
    @djm8814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    That dude only got 6 years in prison?! For drugging and raping his stepdaughter, a patient and sticking some weird blood tube in his arm to evade detection?? That is insane. How much time ya get for a pound of weed? You have got to be kidding me

    • @ActuallyAShrimp
      @ActuallyAShrimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Yup. Most rapists don't even get put in jail anyway. It's horrible

    • @christoffesedao3579
      @christoffesedao3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Agreed, such an injustice. Just drugging someone against their will should be at least 15 years. Raping them should be a life sentence.

    • @yemarican
      @yemarican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats what I was thinking ... its all twisted

    • @estrella5935
      @estrella5935 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@christoffesedao3579 guy who did both those things to me went on the be a teacher.

    • @ryankasik7911
      @ryankasik7911 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yea thats the system that americans dont care enough about to change hahahaha and keep giving cops bigger budgets and salaries

  • @mandarina4157
    @mandarina4157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    6 years in prison for raping at least two people (imagine how many women didn’t realise what happened to them or did dare call the police on him), one of them being his 15yo step daughter, after drugging them, AND making a mockery out of the police department and the whole justice system? I-

    • @trainier
      @trainier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I scrolled through comments before asking this very question. Shocking.

    • @karynasta6447
      @karynasta6447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Canada justice for you🤷🤦

    • @atlantamedia9541
      @atlantamedia9541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@karynasta6447 For Sex Predators the whole world justice system seems like the same. Best criminal activity with low sentences. Victims often don‘t go to police, because they all know, it will not help much. It‘s so sad.

    • @hoesmad_17
      @hoesmad_17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@atlantamedia9541 Horrible.. that is so heartbreaking..

    • @sofienummers
      @sofienummers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was so pissed off and upset about this!!

  • @littleredsubmarine
    @littleredsubmarine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4224

    Imagine being told your husband had been murdered in cold blood and then after all that, the police call you up and tell you your child isn’t your deceased husbands…you had an affair with his best friend and you’re now the prime suspect. Then 18mo later, they call and say “oops, we’re sorry, we mixed up the samples. Your son IS your dead husbands. You’re no longer a suspect. Sorry for the life long trauma. Byeeee!”. It’s so wrong.

    • @mariannecontrino6297
      @mariannecontrino6297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      Right?!?! As sad as it is to say, at least they finally did acknowledged they messed up. I mean, how many times do we hear stories about people wrongly convicted of a crime, sitting in prison for DECADES, even though there is copious amounts of evidence proving their innocence?!?! All because the prosecutor's, and/or detective's egos are too fragile to actually admit they were wrong. People locked up behind bars for most of their lives, while the real culprit commits more crimes, so the "good guys" can keep their reputations in tact. I've seen so many shows about cases like that, where you can't believe they were even charged, let alone found found guilty, and man they are infuriating. "We're truly sorry that we were too lazy to actually do our jobs, destroying your, and your family's lives in the process. I know it can never replace what was taken from you, but here's some money to help you rebuild what we so negligently stole..........Hahaha. Psych, rot in hell you innocent bastard! Soooo, so long sucker!! Not our problem anymore."

    • @rodericperez4204
      @rodericperez4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      I could only imagine how hard her life was and how hard it still is with rumors and whispers behind her back continuing after the “mea culpa” of the police dept. I hope she sued so she could move away from that now toxic town and has enough left over for Scott’s child to pay for college using the rest.

    • @ricofreakinaro6768
      @ricofreakinaro6768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Good ol fashioned police work 👮‍♂️

    • @albtckl
      @albtckl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Hugo_Tateewww stop being a creeper.

    • @andygygi5135
      @andygygi5135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Hugo_Tate dude…

  • @Synster73
    @Synster73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    The really creepy part of the John List murders were that when the authorities arrived the soft audio of gospel music accompanied with the smell of decomposition, haunted the officers who were present so immensely, some quit and/or started therapy to deal with the nightmares.

    • @thecalmplayer6555
      @thecalmplayer6555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh my....

    • @Xvladin
      @Xvladin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk, the police I know share gruesome pictures of people dying violently and laugh. Also cops are the ones who tend to just shoot someone innocent, pretend it's okay because they were scared and then go on paid vacation leave.
      It would surprise me if seeing a decomposing body would be enough for them to quit or really even feel anything honestly

    • @ladybugmac
      @ladybugmac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      If I remember correctly, the bodies in the ballroom were also arranged in a cross shape in the ballroom

    • @paulx3827
      @paulx3827 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ladybugmac beautiful

    • @thebutchernassa8384
      @thebutchernassa8384 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Holly shit dude

  • @adamlaporte5338
    @adamlaporte5338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    stole her childs diaper, ran a dna test unbeknownst to her, and then tried to accuse her of having an affair...no idea why she didnt want to talk to police

    • @katdg
      @katdg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe she did tried to explain the first time they accused her. The second time, maybe she was hurt abt her husband's death, then still being accused of having an affair and no way of proving it false cause she didnt have her husband's dna to conduct her own dna test made her like dismissive of em

    • @RobloxGamer12941
      @RobloxGamer12941 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would've sued their asses. That's horrible. But I believe they can get DNA however they want but I'm not sure. I know cops do that but not sure if a warrants needed

    • @JamesKing-yr2ng
      @JamesKing-yr2ng ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RobloxGamer12941 you need a warrant for it to be used in court but they can use it personally in interrogations.

    • @sofakingimmature
      @sofakingimmature ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@JamesKing-yr2ngIt depends on your area. Trash is public so using it is no different the police following an anonymous tip on a phone line.

    • @TiaMarie96
      @TiaMarie96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JamesKing-yr2ngonce trash is out it’s not owned by the original owner

  • @ashleyhansen7146
    @ashleyhansen7146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +651

    Can’t imagine the horror Brian’s wife was put through….losing her husband and then being told their baby wasn’t Brian’s after being tested on two different occasions. Mistakes like that should never happen!

    • @wowyathink5982
      @wowyathink5982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I agree! (The husband was Scott and the best friend was Brian, though) That whole thing just blew my mind. Imagine what she went through just in regards to the opinion of his family members after that. I mean, you can’t blame them if they believed police/DNA test but still, I can only imagine how infuriating and heartbreaking that must’ve been for her . I’ve been accused of things I didn’t do and it was a terrible feeling but being accused of something THAT important must be a complete mind-f*ck.

    • @Anita-k
      @Anita-k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Seriously, I'm surprised she didn't lose her mind during these 18 months ... I wouldn't be baffled to learn about people committing su1c1de over such painful mistakes (bc it also made her the main suspect in her husband's murder).
      Just imagine, what she went through!
      & Mix-ups aren't as rare as we'd like to believe, thankfully most don't have the gravity of this one, but damn.

    • @elhurricane1706
      @elhurricane1706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The wife of Scott remarried, only to have her husband who was a Sheriff Deputy in Maricopa County die in 2021 when he was struck and killed by a car.

    • @jennag3226
      @jennag3226 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yet, humans make mistakes all the time

  • @teresab5842
    @teresab5842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    EWU “I don’t think there is a way to remove feet without suspicion” priceless 🤣

    • @bodhiswayze1892
      @bodhiswayze1892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lol, that was literally my favourite line of the entire video......

    • @tislyworrell2446
      @tislyworrell2446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed!!

  • @Sammy-cm9ce
    @Sammy-cm9ce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +704

    The doctor in the third story, and everyone who believed him over the victim.... Heart breaking...
    And all the dodgy things he did to cover his tracks, the blood tube, and only 6 years... 💔 Injustice...

    • @FRLN500
      @FRLN500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Typical of the Canadian Injustice System. An acquaintance of mine served 8 1/2 years for kidnapping, torturing and then killing someone in British Columbia, Canada. He received a sentence of life with no parole for 25 years but was released after 8 1/2.

    • @sweetbeauty2153
      @sweetbeauty2153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@FRLN500Well Good Lord, what the f?🤷‍♀️😱

    • @cob6648
      @cob6648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@FRLN500 Isn't our system great .. I agree this is cruel to te victims how broken things are handled at many times.

    • @austingoyne3039
      @austingoyne3039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@FRLN500 wouldn’t there be a problem with repeat offenders? Serial rapists like this doctor don’t tend to stop.

    • @bobbuilder6903
      @bobbuilder6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      these people r fucking scum, a woman had semen on her underwear after she woke up, there are way too many instances women who are victims of sa get treated as a joke until mass media erupts and they have to save face but by then its too late and more people become victims, its just sad and pathetic

  • @briannafollmer7602
    @briannafollmer7602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    Sometimes I get kinda bummed that I have so many cases memorized, I immediately knew all of these but I love The Raven’s voice so much that I’ll happily relive all of them again.

    • @nurseelliott4256
      @nurseelliott4256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes he sounds like you are listening to an audio book which is an compliment

    • @tish5492
      @tish5492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same on The Raven's voice. Is it weird when I 1st starting watching all these I watched all of his before the others?! Haha Idk just fits True Crime sooooo good. So does JCS!

    • @ingGS
      @ingGS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here! I know all these cases very well, but watched them anyway, because I need them narrated by him hahaha.

    • @alisongriggs9692
      @alisongriggs9692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TRU TRU same here I just love your voice!! 🤪😘

    • @jjmarie3472
      @jjmarie3472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same! I've also heard all of these 🤣

  • @andrewdarley3373
    @andrewdarley3373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1010

    The fact you paused to reveal the fate of the puppy tells me you totally understand your audience! I instantly wanted to know the answer and you providing it meant I could relax and carry on enjoying the story ! 😂

    • @emilyjane8044
      @emilyjane8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same!!

    • @thubakabra
      @thubakabra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly the same here!

    • @musicisgoodforthesoul999
      @musicisgoodforthesoul999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too🐕

    • @luvennepearl6081
      @luvennepearl6081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Are these stories meant to be enjoyed?

    • @thubakabra
      @thubakabra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luvennepearl6081 No, you watch the videos to torture yourself.

  • @yadinavarro9810
    @yadinavarro9810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    In the second story, John also put the thermostat on low so the temperature was freezing and the bodies didn’t decomposed sooner. When he got caught the police asked him why he didn’t kill himself he said suicide is a sin

    • @catmoore2443
      @catmoore2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      But apparently murder isn't. What an evil sadistic, selfish man he was.

    • @tomlinn1703
      @tomlinn1703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I enjoy that the police had expected him to kill himself

    • @janedoe-hq9vn
      @janedoe-hq9vn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      What? And murder ain't?

    • @Alcoholpad
      @Alcoholpad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was mental sounds like

    • @Xvladin
      @Xvladin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@janedoe-hq9vn it's a sin but you can repent be forgiven for any sin. There are murderers that have gone on to become saints or enlightened monks. He could repent for murder, but if he killed himself he would have to be judged by God immediately with no real time to repent.
      Just pointing out why I think his thought process did make some sense

  • @marygonzalez5907
    @marygonzalez5907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    The kohlepp case is never truthfully told- it only takes one more step to get the real story there, and personally, I think its one very interesting part. The POLICE didnt track the location of Carver's phone...HIS EX-WIFE DID. She was not getting her child support and the authorities were paying her no mind when she started complaining. SHE called the phone company and said she was a detective and SHE located the property. She went there snooping. When she informed the Sheriffs ofc. the information she had gotten and threw a fit until they went and investigated,(bc they did not take the missing persons cases seriously.) The police charged HER with impersonating a police officer. This was widely reported when the story broke, but the police have been able to cover their poor response in the media with their own B.S. (I'd like to see a movie made from Carver's ex-wife's perspective)

    • @sdsamara
      @sdsamara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Great clarification. Also they made it sound like kohlepp just “got in a fight” with the guy. Just skipped right over that insanity of holding a whole person captive in a shipping container. He was an absolute monster who lured those couples to his property to kill the male and enslave the woman.

    • @boogiedownn2870
      @boogiedownn2870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you. This story is never told fully. Appreciate your insight and info

    • @ryankasik7911
      @ryankasik7911 ปีที่แล้ว

      ppl trust cops and the courts too much for no good reason smfh sheep

    • @b2kzangelalwayz
      @b2kzangelalwayz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Okay so create content and tell it the way you want. Exactly.

    • @Assimandeli
      @Assimandeli ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@b2kzangelalwayz Why are you so salty? The criticism was pretty legit.

  • @JosephKulik2016
    @JosephKulik2016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    An interesting fact about the John List case is that the family mansion in NJ had an antique skylight made by Tiffany that was worth enough money to solve all of List's money problems. Had he been aware of this rare piece of art that had come with his home, he could've sold it for BIG Bucks instead of murdering his family.

    • @FRLN500
      @FRLN500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There is absolutely no evidence to support this story. This is an urban legend.

    • @Flowerbloom-ft7ru
      @Flowerbloom-ft7ru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      What a tragedy, the fact that he went with his son to soccer first while planning to kill him…. Can’t imagine

    • @AntediluvianRomance
      @AntediluvianRomance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Had he tried working before killing all his family, he could have solved his problems without making even more of them. If he was able to hide his not working, he could've hidden his working a lower-tier job.

    • @drkrishnap
      @drkrishnap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody kills like that. He had mental issues

    • @nobodynothing8234
      @nobodynothing8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@AntediluvianRomance honestly I think he was just a sick individual looking for a reason to do what he did

  • @LoucheWoman
    @LoucheWoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    You missed the absolute BIGGEST twist in the John List case: the ballroom he put the bodies in had a chandelier. A rare Tiffany chandelier, worth around $40,000.

    • @catwoman2596
      @catwoman2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ehhh...that's horrible

    • @seanstuchbery
      @seanstuchbery ปีที่แล้ว +3

      $40,000 then or now?

    • @LoucheWoman
      @LoucheWoman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seanstuchbery: Then.

    • @seanstuchbery
      @seanstuchbery ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@LoucheWoman damn

    • @ChildOfYahuahElohim
      @ChildOfYahuahElohim ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Man's could've just asked for the family chandelier and would've been just fine for a good while🤦🏽‍♀️unbelievable

  • @Jennifer-iz4qq
    @Jennifer-iz4qq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I am so happy for the mother of Zebb Quinn to finally be on the path to having answers and some sort of closure. I have followed this case for years and you could see how much it aged and weighed on her. It was also very obvious that there was something off with the coworkers story about pulling over and am surprised it took all these years to finally have the evidence needed to charge him.

  • @leighannmcdowell7005
    @leighannmcdowell7005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    That doctor creep only got 6 years! Yet someone who sells certain things that are harmless get life... blows my mind.

    • @skiessure6178
      @skiessure6178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I was SHOCKED when I heard that! Awful

    • @jimgriggy3257
      @jimgriggy3257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@FrenkTheJoy not to mention injecting drugs into someone? That poor lady! She knew in her mind he did something to her and she did everything she could including spending time and money of her own to prove this SOB raped her! Like you said he absolutely beyond any doubt he did it to other women because she wasn't his first, I hope she got millions from the civil law suit she filed. It didn't mention nothing, but he did say there was a civil trial but maybe he wasnt found guilty that time?

    • @gaaraxnaru
      @gaaraxnaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimgriggy3257 They said it was dropped. Not sure if she tried again after he was finally convicted in criminal court.

    • @scottwilson2812
      @scottwilson2812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Please clarify your stance, are you saying we treat drug dealers too harshly? Lol c”mon man

    • @gaaraxnaru
      @gaaraxnaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@scottwilson2812 They said harmless things. As in the drugs that are relatively harmless, like marijuana. I doubt they're talking about crack dealers.

  • @MrCocoMocoLoco2
    @MrCocoMocoLoco2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I feel sorry for the Brian’s wife. Not only did she have to deal with her immense loss, she was labeled as a cheater because of the mistakes the detectives made.

  • @samuelidredd8921
    @samuelidredd8921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    SIX YEARS!!! Thats all the Dutty Doctor Got. Shameful crime , Shameful sentence.

    • @suadfaraj5712
      @suadfaraj5712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To top that, it was a six year sentence for MULTIPLE accounts of assault of two victims, one of which was a minor!!! What the hell were they thinking?!

    • @christoffesedao3579
      @christoffesedao3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@suadfaraj5712 And he only served 4 years. Only good thing is that he was deported back to Zambia and when he got there they called him Doctor Rape. He couldn’t practice medicine because of his reputation. Hopefully he never abused more people.

  • @FatRescueSwimmer04
    @FatRescueSwimmer04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    As a fellow AFG Vet who knows how damn hard Sam worked for that 62k, makes this case even more upsetting! RIP Brother!

    • @khure711
      @khure711 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts too, the amount of sacrifice for that 62k and knowing how that man had to earn it and to murder and chop his head off. I hope that monster gets tortured every day till finally gets put down.

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I’ve heard the Schneiberger story before... it’s a perfect example of an individual who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. I’m glad he got what he deserved.

    • @malinataras8983
      @malinataras8983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      6 years in prison?? That is just baffling

    • @blondieb91390able
      @blondieb91390able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's a creep in every way.

    • @Sthephyr12
      @Sthephyr12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, the whole false vein thing with decoy blood is pretty ingenious. Too bad it was to evade consequences for his awful crime.

    • @kaidyn12345
      @kaidyn12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      6 years was all he deserved?

  • @NannupTiger
    @NannupTiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The forensic sculptor responsible for finding John List is Frank Bender, just thought he deserves the recognition OK...
    RiP Mr Frank Bender, you were an extremely talented man and a member of the VIDOCQ society...

  • @kasatka3690
    @kasatka3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Wow... That's insidiously amazing what that doctor did with the blood. I have many medical problems, so I get blood drawn often, and they never use the same vein. How is it they happened to get that precise one? I wonder what other creepy things he's done that nobody has caught him for.

    • @FRLN500
      @FRLN500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Him being a doctor, he was allowed to draw the first samples himself! This case was full of police incompetence.

    • @Sara-sn5gd
      @Sara-sn5gd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I'd like to hear why they decided to just drop it after he said she 'hallucinated' the assault, but clearly had semen traces and drug traces in her body. Even if he didn't do it, someone did, right?

    • @ndawn90
      @ndawn90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It's not uncommon for phlebotomists to ask if there is a good vein to draw from. Some people really only have one good one, my mom for example.
      As a doctor, it would be really easy for him to direct them to the correct spot by saying it's the only good vein to draw from.

    • @kasatka3690
      @kasatka3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ndawn90 true. They always ask me, and I tell them, but they done listen. If course my veins are trashed, I'm T1D. That's scary not just what that dr did, but the lengths he went to.

    • @iasminp41
      @iasminp41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sara-sn5gd as the doctor admitted that he had given her the drug, only the semen would be left, they must have assumed that she had sexual intercourse and then the semen came.

  • @Scotia__
    @Scotia__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    would really love a clearer audio & visual cue to separate each story! I have ADHD and it makes me very confused at times (and even when paying close attention it sometimes takes me ages to realize they're different cases, not connected in any way).
    aside from that the videos have been as good as ever! great narration. :)

    • @kevinmiller4371
      @kevinmiller4371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thank you. I was hoping I wasn't the only one tripping on that. I had to rewind the video a few times to see what was going on.

    • @Scotia__
      @Scotia__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@kevinmiller4371 They hearted my comment 48 seconds after I posted it, so I think chances are high they'll be trying something out for the next video they edit! 😊 I love their content, and how respectfully they treat the cases they cover. Absolute top notch quality!

    • @kevinmiller4371
      @kevinmiller4371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Scotia__ Oh yeah they really do make some great videos and I love how respectful they are. Have a good one though. Happy holidays.

    • @laoman888
      @laoman888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes mate thanks for bringing that up I wouldn’t have thought about that I just started it again like 10 times.

    • @Anita-k
      @Anita-k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha, I'm curious what they'll come up with!
      The first 12 sounds of "Smoke on the water" from Deep Purple came to my mind, there're actually lots of songs with great intros or could also be something totally different.

  • @yoursotruly
    @yoursotruly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Have you ever gone to your doctor for a blood workup and the "vampire nurse" has trouble getting a sample so they just give up? The court order said, "get a sample of this man's blood under supervision" and someone said, "Nah, too hard." WTF?

    • @FRLN500
      @FRLN500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's Canada, eh.

    • @JustKrista50
      @JustKrista50 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a professional vampire nurse type person, you are only legally/ethically allowed to attempt blood collection 2xs. Up to 3 people can try, a total of 6 attempts. After that, the Dr can write for different types of blood collection. Artery or foot collection, PICC line.
      So, yes, "too hard" is an actual thing.

    • @drewfromyay882
      @drewfromyay882 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JustKrista50 I've had a nurse struggle with taking my blood before and they just switched to a different vein. That's just incompetence. He's a suspect, he shouldn't be allowed to direct them to the same spot over and over again.

  • @TheLeadingCat
    @TheLeadingCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    One of my favorite things about this channel has to be how you tell us what happens to the pets that were abandoned or belonged to convicts. I've seen that happening in two of your videos so far where the pet was taken into a new home, and each time it really helps alleviate the heaviness of the story. As a pet owner myself, I always worry about those things.

  • @cannons2daleftofthem253
    @cannons2daleftofthem253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Is dumping bags into a dumpster actually suspicious behavior? 🤔 My entire neighborhood gets real suspicious every Sunday night.

    • @CrimsonAlice
      @CrimsonAlice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      LOL!! Now im just imagining all the neighbors emptying their trash simultaneously, giving each other suspicious eyes, then a slow understanding nod before they all shuffle inside.
      " hey Tim, you had a killer party huh?"
      "Yeah Bill, and you?"
      " Nah, family troubles"

    • @punxie89
      @punxie89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ahaha I always feel like I look suspicious when I have to really struggle to get the bag in because it's heavy (I'm just weak lmao)

    • @amandaschmucker2787
      @amandaschmucker2787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@punxie89 🤣

    • @amandaschmucker2787
      @amandaschmucker2787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CrimsonAlice 😂

  • @malloryblackstar5388
    @malloryblackstar5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I appreciate the part about the puppy! So glad that it found a loving home!🐶✨❤️

  • @LegBreakMMA
    @LegBreakMMA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Love how there is multiple channels I always love these videos. Raven is the best glad he is the one doing all these now! Reminds me of old school TV

    • @EWUCrimeStorytime
      @EWUCrimeStorytime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ❤️

    • @cmd_f5
      @cmd_f5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Legendary voice and presentation for sure

  • @JESShatt44
    @JESShatt44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I had just moved to Asheville and started school at TC Roberson as a sophomore. I had met Zebb once before he went missing not long after, he was such a sweet kid, I had friends that were really good friends of his. Every now and then his mom and sister will post on Facebook begging for answers. His disappearance hit hard and still haunts the community.

  • @NatureLover-62
    @NatureLover-62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I always wondered what happened to Quinn. It’s been so long and so intriguing, that you could never pin point an actual time or person that he came into contact with. I hope we find out what happened to Quinn, as his family and loved ones deserve answers.

    • @cindypyles6281
      @cindypyles6281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For the murder of the Codds, Jason Owens was convicted and will serve a minimum of 59 ½ years in prison up to a maximum of 74 ½ years. This trial brought attention once again to Zebb's case. On July 10, 2017, a grand jury indicted Owens for first-degree murder in his death. Owens told a strange story blaming his uncle, Gene Owens, for killing Quinn. He claimed that his uncle forced him to help dispose of the body by dismembering and burning it. Rather than go to trial, Owens pleaded guilty to being an accessory after the fact to first-degree murder. He received a sentence of ten years, which he will serve concurrently with those in the Codd case. He should have gotten more time but at least he'll never set foot out of the prison again.

  • @diehardeaglesfansince1994
    @diehardeaglesfansince1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That real estate story about the guy who had the girl in the shipping container....... him shooting the boyfriend had nothing to do with an argument. he lured them there to kill the boyfriend and keep her as a sex slave

  • @Jezebel066
    @Jezebel066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I know these cases so far (first 2) ... but every time I never fail to get so angry at the cops & their incompetence!!!
    Imagine being pregnant & your love is murdered.. you deliver your baby alone. Then the cops accuse you of having an affair w your husbands best friend & being his killer!
    I can’t imagine... poor woman had a rough year for sure
    Prob for the wrong man. Since they are so good at their jobs 🤦🏻‍♀️
    And the sociopath who killed all his wives & anyone who crossed him should have been put away after killing the first family. So sad his wife at time stood by him. When you’re on their good side, you can’t imagine what monsters they are. My “Prince Charming” was the cruelest person I’ve ever known

    • @ingGS
      @ingGS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Or how the rapist doctor abused of his daughter, his patient, obstructed justice for years and only got 6 YEARS IN PRISON, insane, that guy should have been locked up for a longer time.

    • @miramuchachito296
      @miramuchachito296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The police is miserably bad. And this come over and over again.

    • @rogerramjet6429
      @rogerramjet6429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cops aren't always incompetent.
      Some know exactly what they are doing.
      Which is why I got charged twice, 6 years apart, for a crime that never happened.
      Even having a witness, to the entire nights events in 2002, was totally ignored.
      My crime was being male, with a complainant being female.
      That nasty girl screwed my life over, (as I later found out, I was the fourth) and there was no evidence anywhere.
      It's a long story with a number of twists, which many think I'm making up.
      HELLOOO the girl had been off her meds for 10 months apparently.
      And real life isn't always logical. So just because brainless twats don't see the logic they expect, doesn't mean the entire case is a lie.
      People can be immensely stupid while thinking they're really smart.

    • @rogerramjet6429
      @rogerramjet6429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ingGS patient didn't obstruct justice. Are you on drugs?

    • @ingGS
      @ingGS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miramuchachito296 I would put the blame more on the justice system than on the police. At the end the justice system is in charge of investigating and convicting, the police is there to keep the other and catch criminals, which they did.

  • @professorplum3858
    @professorplum3858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember this first story. Its just so creepy how nonchalant he was about his Amazon purchase reviews. His reasoning and justification for his crimes were even creepier.

  • @leese.23
    @leese.23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That case with the doctor and the blood, too bad he hadn't used someone's blood that was wanted for serial killing...

  • @veronicaescobedo6240
    @veronicaescobedo6240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love watching true crime stories from EWU CRIME STORIES. I watch this channel everyday. Thank you EWU for the great crime stories.

  • @adri7352
    @adri7352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Personally, I can't imagine a not-suspicious way to remove feet." That was too funny, man. 🤭

  • @Dapperdan0680
    @Dapperdan0680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The John List one is even more insane when you hear all the details

  • @gypsygirlkelly
    @gypsygirlkelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Came across your channel last night... subscribed!! Brilliant content, impecable delivery....God bless...!

  • @timgreen2426
    @timgreen2426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So let me get this straight, not only did the police sneak a DNA test behind her back, accuse her for 18 months, but they did it by mixing up DNA samples twice? You’ve got to be kidding me. The incompetence & the audacity!

  • @maddyshea916
    @maddyshea916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "most people notice when they are bleeding and are pretty weary about someone approaching them with a needle" 😳👀😆👏🏻🤫🙃🤣🤣

  • @you_know_me8218
    @you_know_me8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love how they knew we were more concerned about the puppy than anything else 😂 I was like ‘okay but what happened to the puppy’ and then they said he was adopted so I felt happier

  • @thomasj.foolery7025
    @thomasj.foolery7025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The Raven is right on time. Just sat down with a cup of coffee. Cheers!

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've missed these crime videos from you guys. Amazing work. It's a nice change of style then most other crime channels.

  • @infantrygrunt44
    @infantrygrunt44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Geez can u imagine the state of the poor lady about to marry Daniel Wozniak?? She's about to marry this guy and then, literally right before, finds out he's murdered a military veteran and an innocent girl to pay for your upcoming wedding and honeymoon!! She's gonna be needing some therapy...for life

  • @ell6867
    @ell6867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    How did I just find out you guys started this channel!? I’ve missed these videos so much! Thanks guys for the great content :)

  • @TheTaurean
    @TheTaurean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idk how you guys find these cases but no other channel blows my mind with the lengths these criminals go and the outcome of the cases. 👏🏾 great job.

  • @bibbicus3942
    @bibbicus3942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You missed a twist in the List story. List killed his family because he was broke and couldn't keep them in the lifestyle they were accustomed to. The twist is that the skylight in the mansion was an original Tiffany stained glass and was valued at 6 figures in the 70s. He could have helped the money issues had he only put some thought into it rather than murdering his family. Then again, he had much bigger issues than money apparently.

  • @sefarinatabor9329
    @sefarinatabor9329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What's up EWU CREW❤
    I love these episodes!!
    I Hope and Pray You all Have a VERY SAFE and BLESSED DAY. Thank God my husband's surgery was perfected... I'm very thankful, grateful & humbled by all you CREW members who showed us love & blessings..especially the Dr's! Thank you❤❤

  • @DeepThought420
    @DeepThought420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Man I can't get enough of this channel! Thank you for the awesome videos!

  • @PianoDisneygal10
    @PianoDisneygal10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As soon as you mentioned “motorcycle shop”, I knew exactly which case this was. Sick dude he is.
    Never knew about the baby’s dad potentially not being the wife’s husband.

  • @andromedannn783
    @andromedannn783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Finally back good job EWU!

  • @dylanregan9439
    @dylanregan9439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    No lie I'd be really mad that the police ran a DNA test on my underage brand new child with out my consent, I'd be trying to sue the he'll out of them or something for harassment and then some as if my infant child was a criminal under investigation...no there is no reason anyone should have done that

  • @iloveoklahoma6592
    @iloveoklahoma6592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So good to hear stories from you again!! Welcome back Raven!!
    I haven’t heard anything from you lately so I don’t know if I was unsubscribed or what. I have made sure I am subscribed so I don’t ever miss an episode again! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍!!!

  • @Panda-cute
    @Panda-cute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for putting in the detail about the puppy, most crime stuff just breezes past stuff like that. The one good thing of the case 😊

  • @esshor.
    @esshor. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You didn’t include the detail about John list that his last son to be killed wasn’t shot dead immediately, but instead was shot elsewhere and so tried to flee. So had to be shot repeatedly.
    Also that he claimed to have killed his family in order to make sure they went to heaven because apparently his wife had started drinking and he was worried his kids wouldn’t be raised in religion. Also he claimed to have abandoned his family because he couldn’t afford their bills as he lost his job, but it turned out that the chandelier in the ballroom in the house was worth over $100,000 which could’ve easily tied them over until he found another job.

  • @jwsuicides8095
    @jwsuicides8095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6 years in prison for violating his position as a doctor, using drugs on at least 2 females in order to violate them??? Really???!!!?!?!!!

  • @Mandy_Lee
    @Mandy_Lee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What's up EWU Crew ...
    Always a pleasure to hear the Raven exploring new cases with us. 😁

  • @barbarajean426
    @barbarajean426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looking forward to more content. Love sitting and enjoying your uploads. I have to say…they are my favorite. 💙

  • @princessofhardrock3934
    @princessofhardrock3934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m a little late, but excited for a new case with twists video! Love these! ❤️Thanks Raven!!

  • @6235river
    @6235river 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    the case involving the doctor is infuriating. it's insane that he could shrug off the accusations as a figment of her imagination and instead of the police and everyone else in town being like "uh, did she hallucinate the semen sample too?", they're instead like "yeah that makes sense". i've been binge watching so many of these videos and even when rape victims do everything right and report it to the police, everyone around them will find the most illogical ways to discredit the victim.

    • @tislyworrell2446
      @tislyworrell2446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So darn true!!

    • @BlueYellowGreenVc
      @BlueYellowGreenVc ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! It's so infuriating because they act like this even when you do everything right but when a victim waits years to come forward, all of a sudden it's "she's lying because why didn't she say something sooner". As if victims aren't dismissed whether they speak up sooner or later.

    • @Assimandeli
      @Assimandeli ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I mean, the first two blood samples didn't match the semen's DNA. Considering that the guy does sound innocent. But sure, if she denies knowing why there would be semen in her underwear, you'd assume that the police would suspect somebody else in the hospital for raping her.

    • @6235river
      @6235river ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Assimandeli I'm specifically talking about the semen sample in my comment. What purpose does your comment serve?

  • @raythornton8578
    @raythornton8578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How can the cops and supposedly experts continually screw up every case. It’s crazy.

  • @jacquelinesmith7756
    @jacquelinesmith7756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm just a new subscriber, I am now happily binging on your video's lol x There are so many to enjoy. Thank you for having an amazing voice, it makes such a difference when listening x

  • @highflowerfairy2554
    @highflowerfairy2554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Personally, I can't imagine a not* suspicious way to remove feet." 😂

  • @JJvr1111
    @JJvr1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love falling asleep to the voice of the raven. It's sooo soothing even when talking about murder 🤣🤣🤣

  • @teresab5842
    @teresab5842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THANK YOU 🙏 for uploading new insane twists episodes LOVE them! As a criminologist I am always intrigued by ‘twists’!

  • @williamwade3443
    @williamwade3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why is it in every single case I watch online, the police botch, mess up, or pursue leads that could have prevented so many of these crimes?

    • @MrGorillafist
      @MrGorillafist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Their main goal is to keep everyday people in line and serve the whims of the rich and powerful. Solving real crimes is a side gig to appease the public and even then a lot of times they couldn't be arsed.

  • @GoldenYoshi1
    @GoldenYoshi1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Personally I can't imagine a not suspicious way to remove feet" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine being too ashamed to admit you lost your job and may have to go on assistance but you shrug off annihilating your family as "just another day at the office".

  • @grisvolonte
    @grisvolonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like that these crime videos don’t show any gruesome scenes which makes it watchable for me

  • @_am.ber_
    @_am.ber_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Happy Sunday to us!

  • @b-d3vil16
    @b-d3vil16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fresh angle on the fist story with more background on the victims, I’ve heard/seen the story covered but with added info it made it interesting all over again.

  • @batmonibat
    @batmonibat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you! And a special thanks for letting us know the puppy was ok.
    How crazy is the case with the r**pist doctor 😳😳😳

  • @nicholasadams9535
    @nicholasadams9535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man i miss the old explore with us. Don't get me wrong these are great. But Brian, Emma and ewu mama all getting stuck in the desert, and physically exploring things was the best times. I hope you're all well guys.

  • @lunarbunny3021
    @lunarbunny3021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The type of effect that drug has is known as “twilight” sedation… It’s commonly used for wisdom teeth removal.
    It allows the person to still be able to respond… But it also creates an amnesiac affect so you don’t remember having them removed.

  • @caticornpurrmaid2049
    @caticornpurrmaid2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! I'm very familiar with the story of John list, but this channel gave a lot of details that I did not know. What a cold-hearted...you fill in the blank.

  • @kaylamcclatchy8087
    @kaylamcclatchy8087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why am I addicted to this channel now ? One hour ago this was posted and I think I’m late

  • @daxmonkeyfeet2574
    @daxmonkeyfeet2574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm so glad you specified "I can't think of a not suspicious way to remove feet" when they said the feet were removed in a suspicious way thats exactly what came to my mind 🤣
    If its not animals its suspicious

  • @KCsFunHouse
    @KCsFunHouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The case with the doctor is exactly why so many women don’t come forward.

  • @verisheri1979
    @verisheri1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You know you're a true crime junkie when you've heard all of the cases covered here.

  • @creescrazylife901
    @creescrazylife901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wooooh!!! Ewuuuuu Creeeewwwww!!! 🙏💗🧿✋🏽 YAASSS!! 🙏 Thank you! 🙏

  • @tinak.356
    @tinak.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I binge watch this channel..

  • @multiverse45
    @multiverse45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate the hell out of what you guys do

  • @EzeK5
    @EzeK5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That sculpturist was very on point👌🏽

  • @BeverlyHighland
    @BeverlyHighland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should talk about the hunter murders by brothers in Mio, Michigan. Their bodies were fed to the pigs, and the one witness said that their heads being hit by baseball bats sounded like watermelons being hit. It’s very gruesome, and was a cold case for 20 odd years. No one talks about it.

  • @Styrac
    @Styrac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely crazy listening to that first story, I've heard the story about the Amazon Review murderer so many times but no one has ever mentioned that part of his crimes. Really shows that every crime has a tragic story behind it, even if they aren't the ones that seem immediately interesting.

  • @PapaMidnite56
    @PapaMidnite56 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John List literally chose the hardest option possible. Literally just had to get a job.

  • @kbeari
    @kbeari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “We know you are wondering about the puppy” Yes you are absolutely correct.

  • @sarahlouise690
    @sarahlouise690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Glad I woke up at 3 am to this :)

  • @dezw510
    @dezw510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for informing us about the adopted puppy!!

  • @phartphayce7542
    @phartphayce7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So the doctor who sexually assaulted his patient and his 15 yr old step daughter only got 6 years?!

  • @fallennarcotic6981
    @fallennarcotic6981 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The case with the blood drain injected in the doctors arm sounds like it came right out of a thriller novel

  • @randycassidy198
    @randycassidy198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great video guys! Ty 🙏🏼

  • @tfree7273
    @tfree7273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Walked into a bar one day in Piedmont, SC. I was having a horrible day and just walked out of my plant job down the road. After hours and hours of sitting at the edge of the bar the female bartender that I had talked to all day just kinda whispered in passing "youre sitting in Todd Kohlhepps normal seat." I instantly moved.

  • @isabelladepetrillo8883
    @isabelladepetrillo8883 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the john list case was mentioned in the watcher

  • @initforcake3159
    @initforcake3159 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys officially became my favorite true crime channel when you stopped the main story just to let us know what happened to the random puppy. Bless you all.

  • @itarfer
    @itarfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just 6 years for the doctor?? That's horrifying!!

  • @heehoopeanut6160
    @heehoopeanut6160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my god!!!! I remember watching your video on the Kolhep (idk how to spell that loosers name) case!! When that tied in to the first one my jaw literally dropped. What a good video oh my god