This thing is officially the single most over BRd vehicle in the game. It now faces the tiger 2 H. So its a heavy tank. That faces a heavy tank it cant penetrate ANYWHERE frontally. And can be penetrated by the enemy tank anywhere.
RIP 4.7 US lineup T14 and M4A1 76 W + duster and plane it was solid for doing daily tasks even if 19/20 games you played against ussr and now with m4 going to 5.0 constant uptier
As angry as people are over this change, this is the real reason it happened. Years of seal clubbing seared pain into peoples brains about playing against 3.0-5.3 USA and overcorrections like these are the result.
Its not exactly mediocre armour when its turret is impenetrable on the front and side, and its hull is impenetrable from the front and extremely strong on the side, with only a single tinl weakspot, plus a barrel that cant be shot out. Then add fast turret traverse, fast elevation, and a overperforming stabiliser, and its too much of a nightmare to justify 4.7 tanks facing. Try going up against this in a T-34-57 or an Avenger. Its probably overtiered now, just because the gun is so bad, but its not exactly an easy tank to balance, plus a lot of other tanks went up too, so its not being singled out. It could probably go back down to 5.7 if its stabiliser was nerfed to be historically accurate, but ultimately a highly mobile stabilised heavy tank is going to be a balancing issue.
Gaijin is right back to compressing BRs again. Give Tiger 1s the chance at seeing lower BR cold war vehicles, and pushing jumbos up to face Tiger 2s, Jagdtigers, Elefants, and damn near everything else at 6.7 that can slice right through a Jumbo's upper front plate at nearly any angle.
Nice, so my ARL-44, E.B.R 1951, and Sa-50 are now alone in the br unless they wanna fight Tiger 2 H's, meanwhile the only other 5.7 is the M36B2. Not much of a lineup there gaijin, but thank you for this magnificent, entirely useless change that nobody asked for
dont think this tank should have moved up, it now takes even more skill to play and new players will really struggle with it, idk what gajin is doing at this point
And they moved up lots of German stuff: Tiger 1s Tiger 2P Panthers Jagdpanther Lekpz M41 Ostwind 2 (reasonable) Panzer IV 70 (Heh?) Honestly if Gaijin want to decompress a br from higher tier vehicles )as was needed, honestly) they have to increase the br of every vehicle above a certain br
Yea I had a dedicated lineup with my french jumbo, ARL-44, FL11 EBR, and my SA-50 sherman. The lineup is now broken and the only other 5.7 french vehicle is the M36B2. Hardly a linup worth fighting with
Nice that’s what I was looking for. Had a pretty terrible time yesterday in the Jumbo. But did some misplays and also had some bad luck. It’s kinda funny. I’ve drawn the attention of like 3-4 tanks at once, including Panthers which gave my team a huge advantage but it’s kinda like sacrificing yourself for your team without getting rewarded. Gotta bring some smoke shells next time. Didn’t even know the Jumbo had them 😮
It would be literally like it has always been if gaijin moved the tiger 2 H up too. But no, now u face all ur previous enemies, but also an inpenetrable tiger 2 wich pens u anywhere
i want what gaijin is smoking in the office. they've destroyed APCR, APDS. they cant stop copy pasting maps into the game. they think winter maps are the cats meow.
Probably not a lot of people play it. Gaijin just moved the most played vehicles because they cause the most problems for Gaijins economy. The more players earn too much with a vehicle the faster it’s going move up in BR.
HMS Gay Archer's last log: "Captain we're is going down down by the head " "No power Mr Scott? The screws have stopped" "Nee Sir shafts are bent out of alignment" "Right then gentlemen get the boys off quick as you can"
Oftentimes thats the only shot you can make in a jumbo, for example, a Tiger H1 thats facing you Of course its been worse off for barrels since gaijin changed the rng of criting a barrel
They should folder it so people who aren't good at the game yet can skip it and come back to it later. its clearly still very strong if someone who's good at the game like you is using it but someone who just reached rank III USA should absolutely not touch this thing
@@iamspid3717 I really disliked playing the 76 shemans & jumbo especially, enough that I stopped playing because of them and when I came back I literally switched to Germany and the game was 10x more fun. Maybe if I go back to them I'll be better considering I've played several hundred more hours but they are not new player friendly tanks at all.
@@Rosaslav I know for a fact Odd doesn't take full ammo, and especially on Shermans because they store the ammo on the left wall if above a certain amount which Phly, Odd, and Spookston have all made videos on.
I was really hoping to see you fight a kv 220, basically impossible to kill as a jumbo point blank without apcr. I dread fighting them more than i do tiger 2s
This is a lil story of 5 Jumbos in an alleyway pushing a herd of panthers and Tigers from the side but they run into a white Is-2 1944 and well it didn't end well for them 😅 I killed them all tho I have a much slower reload but I'm a good brawler
@@mobilememes1313 on the contrary my friend I'm a very good brawler in the Is-2 1944, I managed to kill 3 Panthers, 2 Tiger E, Tiger P and a Jagdtiger, a Pershing and a Jumbo by myself 😂 in a city that is on Maginot line Map on the A point
Bruh what you're dumber than a rock if you think 75 Jumbo is equal to Tiger E,with Tiger H1 i can see for the argument but E is just a straight up improved Tiger H1.
I cannot comprehend how the Panther D stayed at 5.3. It's a 6.0 tank (without the weak machine gun port). I don't care that the turret traverse is bad, it's an absolute behemoth to face now.
@@Corellian_SmugglerThe Panther D is just a bigger Flatpanzer. It’s a tank destroyer like the M10 disguised as medium tank. It works when you point your gun forward but that’s it.
@@Corellian_Smuggler If you compare the Panther D to a heavy tank you don’t know what you’re talking about. The Panther D faces much more capable medium tanks than the M10 does. So the heavier armor is basically a necessity to even be competitive.
@@kimjanek646 Panther D frontally is a very difficult target for most guns conventional and sub-calliber to 100mm.That's why I compared it to a heavy tank play-style. I wasn't referencing to how it was used historically, but how it plays in the game currently. The other panthers are now 6.0 with the same gun and armour- you could say worse due to the machine gun ports. It doesn't make sense that it's .7 below the other panthers due to its bad turret traverse. On a large map its a trade off that hardly matters anyway. Panther-D should have gone to 5.7 if the Jumbo did..
they should not change premium BR since they are selling an item and then reneging.Very bad business practice.The only 2 friends i had on here quit when the Magach went up to 8.0 and this put them over the edge.Now I might as well not even use the magach,it gets wiped out now.Can't pen anything in 8.0
80 mm sloped at 27 degrees makes it around 95 mm. Throw in a 10 degree heading angle and then it becomes nearly impenetrable. Keep in mind the Tiger can pen anywhere on a jumbo except the mantlet, so it doesn't leave a lot of room for error
@@robertharris6092 Almost every 37 mm can pen a jumbos track area, while the german short 88, long 75, and russian 85 can't reliably pen the front of it. My point was that a Tiger 2 H can generally kill you just by looking at you, while you yourself would have to get in a very tricky and exact spot in a jumbo
i have the cobra king . every time i see your videos Turny i get convinced that i too can excel like you and get confidence. every single time i prove myself wrong 🥲
It's 2025 the Jumbo 75 is now 7.7 and faces T55AM-1s, you have entered the Twilight Zone
would not be surprised.
2024 November jumbo 8.3 with 76mm gun
as long as it faces Germany mains, it will be playable
I am going to start doing this now so I can be ready.
Dang...
This thing is officially the single most over BRd vehicle in the game. It now faces the tiger 2 H. So its a heavy tank. That faces a heavy tank it cant penetrate ANYWHERE frontally. And can be penetrated by the enemy tank anywhere.
It's not the most over-br'd. While that still belongs to a US vehicle, this is not the worst case.
Nuh uh
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 then what?
Don't forget about the t25
So kinda like most heavy tanks that face other heavies in full uptier.
Not like the Tiger II H didn’t see IS-3s, IS-4Ms and T32s.
RIP 4.7 US lineup T14 and M4A1 76 W + duster and plane it was solid for doing daily tasks even if 19/20 games you played against ussr and now with m4 going to 5.0 constant uptier
M6A1 aswell
My German 5.3, 6.3, 6.7 😢
6.7 USA ;)
As angry as people are over this change, this is the real reason it happened.
Years of seal clubbing seared pain into peoples brains about playing against 3.0-5.3 USA and overcorrections like these are the result.
I'm still impressed that Tiger 2H didn't go up as well. Because what it needed is to face even more tanks that can't do anything to it.
Smartest gaijin decision
Unless I misread somewhere I'm certain it did to 7.0... and the tiger 1's to 6.0
Didn't it? They were initially planning on raising it to 7.0 same as the panther 2 and tiger 10,5
Weird that you didn't mention US T34 too but anyway average US main
That would make sense to move the T34 US but probably not the other two tech tree heavies
The 75mm can't pen 80% of tanks it encounters.
Gayjin: "yeah but it has stab and slightly less mediocre armor, so Nerf it is!"
but the KV1E stays 4.0 for the better part of a decade because reasons
the checks of the kv-1e is a easy weakspot @@weiwu1442
Its not exactly mediocre armour when its turret is impenetrable on the front and side, and its hull is impenetrable from the front and extremely strong on the side, with only a single tinl weakspot, plus a barrel that cant be shot out. Then add fast turret traverse, fast elevation, and a overperforming stabiliser, and its too much of a nightmare to justify 4.7 tanks facing. Try going up against this in a T-34-57 or an Avenger. Its probably overtiered now, just because the gun is so bad, but its not exactly an easy tank to balance, plus a lot of other tanks went up too, so its not being singled out. It could probably go back down to 5.7 if its stabiliser was nerfed to be historically accurate, but ultimately a highly mobile stabilised heavy tank is going to be a balancing issue.
you are basically using a 3.3 gun in a 5.7. Well done Gaijin.
Only jumbo worth using now is the 76 gunned jumbo. It still gets shit on at 6.3 but at least it can pen some of the things it sees
Next year the Jumbo its gonna be 8.0 cause it can kill leo 1's. Meanwhile the tiger 2 H stays chilling at 6.7, balance baby!
Gaijin is right back to compressing BRs again. Give Tiger 1s the chance at seeing lower BR cold war vehicles, and pushing jumbos up to face Tiger 2s, Jagdtigers, Elefants, and damn near everything else at 6.7 that can slice right through a Jumbo's upper front plate at nearly any angle.
Nice, so my ARL-44, E.B.R 1951, and Sa-50 are now alone in the br unless they wanna fight Tiger 2 H's, meanwhile the only other 5.7 is the M36B2. Not much of a lineup there gaijin, but thank you for this magnificent, entirely useless change that nobody asked for
The 5.7 French line up its not worth it anymore now. But the 5.3 line up its still good
dont think this tank should have moved up, it now takes even more skill to play and new players will really struggle with it, idk what gajin is doing at this point
And they moved up lots of German stuff:
Tiger 1s
Tiger 2P
Panthers
Jagdpanther
Lekpz M41
Ostwind 2 (reasonable)
Panzer IV 70 (Heh?)
Honestly if Gaijin want to decompress a br from higher tier vehicles )as was needed, honestly) they have to increase the br of every vehicle above a certain br
Gaijin listen at these german main who complain can't kill jumbo in their panther
i get that but having less then 100 mm of pen at 5.7 is something, you now need to know weakspots or shoot barrels@@AxlePlaysGames
german mains when their tank cant kill something in 1 shot:@@kaitotara734
I feel like gaijin doesn't know either
What a joke, this tank now facing Tiger II H. Might as well make it shoot 50 cal only at this point
IS-6 is 7.7 now, you mean to make the Jumbo 6.7
@@ruub9971 I just checked and IS6 is actually 7.3, but I'm sure the Jumbo 75 will get to 6.3 soon anyway
@@DatNguyen-wd4tl yeah looks like they reverted the IS-6 BR change for now, but still gave it a new round
@@DatNguyen-wd4tl I checked in game+the actual BR change log and the IS-6 definitely is 7.7 now.
@@ruub9971 Okay, that makes sense since I played the Leopard 1 the other day and it was 8.0
Its incredible, gaijin is willing to do anything but decompress the BRs ranges.
and stop 1 BR up tiers
@@michaelstjohn6086 If they at least stopped 1 br difference when you are STOCK woudl be an improvement
I am infuriated, i had a pergect 5.3 lineup with my cobra king and jyst reslised its 5.7, massive fckn nerf
Yea I had a dedicated lineup with my french jumbo, ARL-44, FL11 EBR, and my SA-50 sherman. The lineup is now broken and the only other 5.7 french vehicle is the M36B2. Hardly a linup worth fighting with
I feel that I had a 4.0-5.0 line up I loved and gaijan ruined it by raising the jumbo and T1E1’s BR
Nice that’s what I was looking for. Had a pretty terrible time yesterday in the Jumbo. But did some misplays and also had some bad luck.
It’s kinda funny. I’ve drawn the attention of like 3-4 tanks at once, including Panthers which gave my team a huge advantage but it’s kinda like sacrificing yourself for your team without getting rewarded.
Gotta bring some smoke shells next time. Didn’t even know the Jumbo had them 😮
It would be literally like it has always been if gaijin moved the tiger 2 H up too. But no, now u face all ur previous enemies, but also an inpenetrable tiger 2 wich pens u anywhere
US mains always acting as if lots of tanks don't face impenetrable T34 too. Why the double standards dude?
@@maxwellmaragia2272 don't even play murica 💀
I said ALL tanks
Probably doesn’t change much. The Tiger II P was already almost unkillable.
@@kimjanek646 at least u can pen it's cheeks with apcr with luck. The tiger 2 H is just unpenable
Bro a tank made in 1944 - 1945 shouldnt face a tank made in cold war
Meanwhile the KV-1E / B is still at 4.0. No russian bias here.
i want what gaijin is smoking in the office. they've destroyed APCR, APDS. they cant stop copy pasting maps into the game. they think winter maps are the cats meow.
Pretty soon the jumbos are going to be worthless if they keep raising the br
They are worthless now
Players like Turny are what makes Jumbo will eventually be at 11.7
Hhh jk love u bud!
@6:27 textbook reaction to tiger 2 haha. amazing
Gaijin be rolling down on our Jumbos yo. This is a sad day. Someone take me back when it was 4.7.
More morsels for the jumbus to feast on...
The Tiger E moved up, BUT THE PREMIUM PORSCHE TIGER STAYED AT 5.7
Probably not a lot of people play it. Gaijin just moved the most played vehicles because they cause the most problems for Gaijins economy.
The more players earn too much with a vehicle the faster it’s going move up in BR.
the porsche tiger is pretty bad, much worse than the tiger E
@@daskollektiv4593 i wouldn't say its Bad, bc its got like 200mm armor on the Front and the very good reverse speed
@@idkwhattoputhere6394 only has 200mm armour is people hit the very obvious 200mm plates and not the various weakspots
@@daskollektiv4593 Not really. Since it didn’t move to 6.0 it’s even stronger than before.
I'm going assume them saying that this can rightfully face a Tiger II (H) is a half year early bad in taste April Fools event.
HMS Gay Archer's last log:
"Captain we're is going down down by the head "
"No power Mr Scott? The screws have stopped"
"Nee Sir shafts are bent out of alignment"
"Right then gentlemen get the boys off quick as you can"
@ 3:50 im not trying be critical here because i almost NEVER do barrel shots but even i was like "shoot its barrel wtf."
Oftentimes thats the only shot you can make in a jumbo, for example, a Tiger H1 thats facing you
Of course its been worse off for barrels since gaijin changed the rng of criting a barrel
They should folder it so people who aren't good at the game yet can skip it and come back to it later. its clearly still very strong if someone who's good at the game like you is using it but someone who just reached rank III USA should absolutely not touch this thing
Oh hey, it's me. My experience is now miserable.
@@iamspid3717 I really disliked playing the 76 shemans & jumbo especially, enough that I stopped playing because of them and when I came back I literally switched to Germany and the game was 10x more fun. Maybe if I go back to them I'll be better considering I've played several hundred more hours but they are not new player friendly tanks at all.
I'd get the BR increase if APCR worked as intended, but it's gaijin 🤣
APCR works just like as intended, it was pretty useless against anything other than flat armor plates.
@@AFT_05Gno it worked against a varital of angles, it was basically just a faster AP round
Mmmm can't wait to watch a video of stiff Turny grinding his way to being able to drop a huge load on everyone on the field
Dude you carry so much ammo, like I've never seen someone who carries so much
Jumbo stores ammo in the bottom of the the hull so it only gets hit in side shots.
@@Keep3r1438 which is the most common way of killing it
OddBawZ also carries full load.
I tend to limit the amount I carry, but in shermans your crew is much more likely to be taken out anyway.
@@Rosaslav I know for a fact Odd doesn't take full ammo, and especially on Shermans because they store the ammo on the left wall if above a certain amount which Phly, Odd, and Spookston have all made videos on.
Next update: Jumbo goes to 10.3
it became more and more clear that i have big skill issue
Turny new video rule: Like the video before watching
The IS-6 is now at the same br as the MAUS
what happeneds to the 76mm jumbo???
I bought the cobra king like three months ago just to grind more SL and I love the jumbos. now we just need a premium jumbo 76.
I was really hoping to see you fight a kv 220, basically impossible to kill as a jumbo point blank without apcr. I dread fighting them more than i do tiger 2s
There is no way u actually would rather face a 75mm jumbo with less armor then a tiger 2
@@mobilememes1313 reading comprehension of a 3rd grader
@@IvanIvanovv bro ngl I was high asf my bad bro💀
@@mobilememes1313 it is all good my boy 😂
This is a lil story of 5 Jumbos in an alleyway pushing a herd of panthers and Tigers from the side but they run into a white Is-2 1944 and well it didn't end well for them 😅 I killed them all tho I have a much slower reload but I'm a good brawler
Your not a good brawler, you have great armor that the jumbo can't pen
@@mobilememes1313 on the contrary my friend I'm a very good brawler in the Is-2 1944, I managed to kill 3 Panthers, 2 Tiger E, Tiger P and a Jagdtiger, a Pershing and a Jumbo by myself 😂 in a city that is on Maginot line Map on the A point
Does it have the worst gun of its br? Is there anything worse than it?
Time to take Tiger II ( H ) for a spin xD
Why did they raise it it’s fine just bad German players
The suffering simulator raises the bet…
T 80 U bias the Swedish one
The big Jumbus.
And I'm left here wondering why Gaijin hasn't introduced a new game mode for "WWII Battles", only including vehicles that actually faced each other.
It's a terrible idea
Yet the main tank it struggles against here. is a ww2 vehicle.
@@Azzoz1 No it isn't.
What you're looking for is *GROUND SB*
@@urip_zukoharjo Oh? Might have to make an attempt at that.
why did they do this to my boy the jumbo
Great! So now not even the APCR round can help you 😂
Pzgr 39 pens jumbos lower armor plate
your baby has gone to 7.7
I would understand if gaijin had moved everything up, but they didn't. This isn't proper decompression. Wat did gaijin do if it wasn't decompression?
You can only make decompression by raising the be ceiling without adding newer tanks they never have and never will actually decompress the brs
7:28 🤨
If Tiger E is 6.0, Jumbo should be 6.0?
Also Tiger 2 P and H are both 6.7 GAIJIN WHAT THE F-
Bruh what you're dumber than a rock if you think 75 Jumbo is equal to Tiger E,with Tiger H1 i can see for the argument but E is just a straight up improved Tiger H1.
And yet the tiger 1 the panther d and the flatpanzer are 5.3
I cannot comprehend how the Panther D stayed at 5.3. It's a 6.0 tank (without the weak machine gun port). I don't care that the turret traverse is bad, it's an absolute behemoth to face now.
@@Corellian_SmugglerThe Panther D is just a bigger Flatpanzer. It’s a tank destroyer like the M10 disguised as medium tank.
It works when you point your gun forward but that’s it.
@@kimjanek646 Except it's extremely heavily armoured for it's BR so in turn can be used as basically a heavy tank. Yeah, an M10 for sure..
@@Corellian_Smuggler If you compare the Panther D to a heavy tank you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The Panther D faces much more capable medium tanks than the M10 does. So the heavier armor is basically a necessity to even be competitive.
@@kimjanek646 Panther D frontally is a very difficult target for most guns conventional and sub-calliber to 100mm.That's why I compared it to a heavy tank play-style. I wasn't referencing to how it was used historically, but how it plays in the game currently. The other panthers are now 6.0 with the same gun and armour- you could say worse due to the machine gun ports. It doesn't make sense that it's .7 below the other panthers due to its bad turret traverse. On a large map its a trade off that hardly matters anyway. Panther-D should have gone to 5.7 if the Jumbo did..
Absolutely dumb they moved IIP and 75 Jumbo up while keeping IIH in place.
Tiger II P is still very fine at 6.7 just get better
yikes. what a mess. ruined my "feel good" line-up
Horrible change along with the Tigers as well...there was nothing wrong with their BRs ..might as well put everything at a single BR at this point
Nah, at least Tigers have firepower.Tiger H1 rightfully deserves to be 5.7 if a damn Sherman can be 5.7.
bro jumbo front plate isn t reliable it can be peened by pahters
Protection analysis says it should be pennable up to 500m but it should be perfectly straight,same elevation and everything.
they should not change premium BR since they are selling an item and then reneging.Very bad business practice.The only 2 friends i had on here quit when the Magach went up to 8.0 and this put them over the edge.Now I might as well not even use the magach,it gets wiped out now.Can't pen anything in 8.0
Dude Gaijin is litteraly ruining the game with every update
9:33 did you fail math class? Or do they teach that 104 is smaller than 80 there?
80 mm sloped at 27 degrees makes it around 95 mm. Throw in a 10 degree heading angle and then it becomes nearly impenetrable. Keep in mind the Tiger can pen anywhere on a jumbo except the mantlet, so it doesn't leave a lot of room for error
@@Gracefulwarrior2124 shoot behind the tracks... thats literaly the jumbos weakspot too.
@@robertharris6092 Almost every 37 mm can pen a jumbos track area, while the german short 88, long 75, and russian 85 can't reliably pen the front of it.
My point was that a Tiger 2 H can generally kill you just by looking at you, while you yourself would have to get in a very tricky and exact spot in a jumbo
@@Gracefulwarrior2124 im not commenting on the balce of it. Im commenting on his failed math.
@@robertharris6092 Yea, and I commented on your math that only works on paper at 0 degrees, when in game it is far, far more complicated
why 437 like to this kind of video it video this deserved better
Day 159 of asking for some juicy black prince gameplay 👾
Only works for an expert player, everyone else, it's worthless.
Good luck getting a nuke in this thing without using sound mods and other cheats.
The cope is crazy
First!!!
Say it ain't so!😢
i have the cobra king . every time i see your videos Turny i get convinced that i too can excel like you and get confidence. every single time i prove myself wrong 🥲