They actually made 7.7-8.3 tanks with their new BRs such pain to play cause now they face 8.7-9.3 tanks all day long and get absolutely slammed. They fixed 6.3 6.7 only to destroy 7.7 and 8.0 BRs LOL.
Yeah if before it was 6.7/7.3 the suffering br, now playing 7.7/8.3 is a fucking nightmare, tanks there have laser rangefinder and stab, you probably don't have neither lol
br change is pretty good. however, regardless of changes, 6.3 and 6.7 are always uptiered. i don’t know why but there was no single down tier match after br changes
I play with maus all the time, I'm surviving a lot of matchs with bounces and bombs dropping everywhere and I live somehow... Skill issue in angling the armor lmao
@@condes9188 mate, I know angling, and its not skill issue whenIm still facing things with 300 plus apds, Rocket launchers, 400m heats fins, and apdfs and the fact most teammates, Im getting are complete morons when Im marking potential enemies, its a struggle enough with incapable teammates its still the fact that its still within the range of 8.0 and above and I have extremely low chances to even getting 6.7 matches since Im only using ww2 tanks within my line up
@errorpanzeriv yeah the centurions 3 and 5, caernarvon are older than the conqueror, use ww2 designs and tech, still use conventional ammunition, have shell shatter and un historically slow reloads yet face cold war tanks firing heat and heatfs as well as apfsds. Makes sense.....
@@Hatfieldfarms44 The changes do seem bizarrely inconsistent. I personally don't think it's an issue for Late WWII vehicles to meet Early Cold war tanks as long as it's balanced. Tanks like the T-54 were almost invulnerable from the front while M48 still have many weak spots so i don't see an issue there. Seems fair that T-54 are at 8.0 while M48's aren't. Gun Stabilization and Thermal Sights are a much bigger issue for balancing compared to a Tiger II vs M48 or BMP-1
Been playing US 6.7/7.0 and Ru 7.0 and got 2 nukes while playing as the US and 1 as Ru. Both in heavies partly for the Russia as the ZSU-57-2 is disgusting. Got 5 kills in 5 mins playing that thing but died and rest played in the IS-3 and had a friend give me some cover so i could get the nuke too. It was a fantastic game :)
@@phoenix_radio friend of mine got the 120 and he's happy the 120 got moved. he sees it as a buff now as the things at 6.3 would get overpenned and not do anything. mainly happy just not seeing them or leos anymore. so glad for that. still wish the T32s would go down though. but glad 6.0/6.7 doesn't suffer like it used to.
@@USSWISCONSIN64t32 is in a hard situation, like the Jumbo problem when It was at 4.7. The gun on t32 is not that good for such high BR but the armor makes It almost impenetrable frontaly ( 7.3 one), and the 7.7 one is unvulnerable frontaly against common ammunition( even its cupola can absorb shots).
I honestly can’t think how this would even be a good change for the 5.7-7.0 bracket. 6.7-7.0 will now club the shit out of 5.7-6.0 vehicles since without HEAT-FS most guns can’t pen the late war heavies. Before that change light armored HEAT-FS slinger were a threat to heavy armor while they could be taken out by other WW2 vehicles.
@@kimjanek646 And it's not like those HEATFS slingers had armor Most of them had horrible survivability, and even if they did pen you HEAT causes low DMG which rarelly onetapped If you played heavies correctly and not like a German main thinking you should be front invincible to everything then youd do just fine If heavies were so bad explain how my first nuke was on the Maus of all things, a tank people complained so much of it facing ATGMs and HEAT. It was against a bunch of T54s too. I've given up on playing my 8.0 tanks now, I'm sick and tired of the constant downtiers and winning/losing based on which side gets Russia with their stupid good lineup
You're not alone, since the past month or so my crew has also been disappearing out of thin air with no sound or visual indication of anyone shooting at me.
I strongly dislike the changes. It doesn't improve the middle BR's for anything except heavies and further misguides players before they transition to even higher tiers where armor stops mattering as much again and they have to relearn the game to fight. The new meta around 8.0 has tanks with thermals, apfsds, stabs, and LRF's, all on the same vehicle, while some tanks in the same match have none of those things. This was done all because a few tanks with heatfs were causing grief and instead of nerfing just those tanks, the whole thing has to get reworked. I've played 6.7-7.7 in japan, USA, USSR, and france all the way through to spade before these changes and failed to find any matches where there was a systemic balancing issue. Some nations are forced to use prop planes and BR 4.0 AA to fight german jets, and some nations have heat-fs for days, and some have armor that actually works. It seemed all OK to me. I know it's rude to call skill issue but I genuinely think the problem is more with the players than it was with the tanks, barring some narrow situations like the Object 120 which could have been nerfed on its own.
Totally agree. This change did nothing except please the late war enthusiasts who want post-war vehicles to stay away from WW2 vehicles. I think at one point I was also for it but in reality it only works with some hefty BR compression. If you go from 5.7 Tiger to 6.7 Tiger II, then you also need the other vehicles to get some insane boost as well. It worked because there was a balance between APHE, armor and HEAT-FS. 6.7/7.0 had insane armor but it only mattered against maybe 50%, while penetrations most likely didn’t instantly take them out, so it was balanced.
I don't have a problem with new BR changes , if there is a weak spot . But the IS3 is king now , no conventional APHE round can reliably pen this monster from the front . Just a luck shot over the mantlet , but not like the IS6 . Not even the big 128mm can do so , they should change something on the IS3 if they keep this BR . Just a tiny weak spot gaijin , nothing more .
@@tm1182 Those line ups were already strong, the only vehicle that really benefits is the AMX-50 Foch and maybe the Somua. France 8.0 to 9.0 got butchered. I don't see it as a buff. Several vehicles under 8.0 got moved up for France, but they are unarmored so it doesn't really matter, though over br'd.
@thatoneguy1741 True for France. My Normal at 7.3 is against 8.3 which most have stabilizers and non conventional rounds. Once in awhile I get a downtier
@@penclaw While that is true, going out alone without a spotting system similar to AB or WoT is mostly suicide. A little teamplay already helps a lot. Leave the spawn in two or three and not alone, stay together and keep covering eachother. Ah yes and this was a 7.0 battle. Good luck with Panthers and Tiger I vs. 100mm+ guns. Sorry, I am too scared by this xD I see people spawn in outmatched tanks in outmatched situations all the time. It is exhausting haha
Playing ger 7.7 now and 8.0 out of 27 games I lost 19 , every game except 4 have been UPTIERS And my kd on all rank 5 tanks have turned to SHIT so if anyone says these changes are good , think very hard
Sounds like you need to get a squad together so you know at least 3 on the team know how to play. I can't tell you how many times my squad gets"best squad" doing hardly anything because we are the only ones trying to capture and hold points. Everyone else races to one point, captures, races to spawn camp, gets killed, and repeat process from spawn point. German teams are terrible
They actually made 7.7-8.3 tanks with their new BRs such pain to play cause now they face 8.7-9.3 tanks all day long and get absolutely slammed. They fixed 6.3 6.7 only to destroy 7.7 and 8.0 BRs LOL.
Yeah if before it was 6.7/7.3 the suffering br, now playing 7.7/8.3 is a fucking nightmare, tanks there have laser rangefinder and stab, you probably don't have neither lol
I would add even 8.7 to the sufference
bro wdym most of 8.7-9.3 tanks also got moved up by 0.3 BR, so relatively there is no difference for the 7.7-8.3 tanks
@@BrezhnevStanLeopard players mad that their tank is at a correct BR
Good lol, let the leopard players suffer
T34 is a bit more satisfying because of the solid shot spalling. 120s sound and do amazing
Just a lil heads up if u shoot Is-4/6/3 just above the cannon barrel where that steel plate is it will kill it
br change is pretty good. however, regardless of changes, 6.3 and 6.7 are always uptiered. i don’t know why but there was no single down tier match after br changes
i played 7.3 america and every single game was a downtier
because 5.7 was wiped clean... nothign is left there.
The M6A2E1 has the same shell at 6.7, its even better in that BR😀
1,469 silver lions I’ve felt that love you turny ❤
2:08 The southern, hillbilly impression never fails to amuse me😂😂
Soooooo we’re not gonna talk about his SL amount?
Bro is broke ass
Richest War Thunder player:
I just unlocked the Conqueror, and I think its great in Full downtiers, also when playing the Tea-Baggers, prepare to get Gaijined. Like, a LOT
how does it make it right for me to play against tanks with thermals and laser rangefinders on a dam M60
Turny you need to get your silver lions up bro
He "deleted" them all
Wish the maus was great with the new br change but still see cold war tanks which is annoying
I play with maus all the time, I'm surviving a lot of matchs with bounces and bombs dropping everywhere and I live somehow... Skill issue in angling the armor lmao
@@condes9188 mate, I know angling, and its not skill issue whenIm still facing things with 300 plus apds, Rocket launchers, 400m heats fins, and apdfs and the fact most teammates, Im getting are complete morons when Im marking potential enemies, its a struggle enough with incapable teammates its still the fact that its still within the range of 8.0 and above and I have extremely low chances to even getting 6.7 matches since Im only using ww2 tanks within my line up
Except the caernarvon is now the same br as the conqueror and the cent mk 10 is a higher br then the conqueror. Some of these changes are rediculous
Fr, they said that they were bumping up Cold War tanks Br so they don’t face ww2 tanks, yet the forgot the tiger 2s
@errorpanzeriv yeah the centurions 3 and 5, caernarvon are older than the conqueror, use ww2 designs and tech, still use conventional ammunition, have shell shatter and un historically slow reloads yet face cold war tanks firing heat and heatfs as well as apfsds. Makes sense.....
@@Hatfieldfarms44 The Tiger IIs aren't cold war?
@@ducksonplays4190 I mean that there WW2, yet some Cold War tanks, like BMP-1 and M48 got put to 7.7, so they can still fight tiger 2s
@@Hatfieldfarms44 The changes do seem bizarrely inconsistent. I personally don't think it's an issue for Late WWII vehicles to meet Early Cold war tanks as long as it's balanced. Tanks like the T-54 were almost invulnerable from the front while M48 still have many weak spots so i don't see an issue there. Seems fair that T-54 are at 8.0 while M48's aren't.
Gun Stabilization and Thermal Sights are a much bigger issue for balancing compared to a Tiger II vs M48 or BMP-1
could you play 9.0 Britain mainly the chieftain mk10 since just like this stuff around it moved up but it stayed the same so it's pretty good.
the T34 at 6.7 is super fun as well
Which better that and t29?
Been playing US 6.7/7.0 and Ru 7.0 and got 2 nukes while playing as the US and 1 as Ru. Both in heavies partly for the Russia as the ZSU-57-2 is disgusting. Got 5 kills in 5 mins playing that thing but died and rest played in the IS-3 and had a friend give me some cover so i could get the nuke too. It was a fantastic game :)
7.0 russia is just so fun
@@phoenix_radioIt's disgusting
@@USSWISCONSIN64 at least the is6 and object 120 got moved. Those were just filthy (is6 still is but it's a little better for the 6.0 players)
@@phoenix_radio friend of mine got the 120 and he's happy the 120 got moved. he sees it as a buff now as the things at 6.3 would get overpenned and not do anything. mainly happy just not seeing them or leos anymore. so glad for that. still wish the T32s would go down though. but glad 6.0/6.7 doesn't suffer like it used to.
@@USSWISCONSIN64t32 is in a hard situation, like the Jumbo problem when It was at 4.7.
The gun on t32 is not that good for such high BR but the armor makes It almost impenetrable frontaly ( 7.3 one), and the 7.7 one is unvulnerable frontaly against common ammunition( even its cupola can absorb shots).
So much boom in the APHE shell. My favorite premium.
that shot on the is6 was guided by god
Turny kills an IS6 frontally: OH BOYYYY herbert the pervert initiated 3:19 😂
Ferdinand player top 5% of German mains
The new BR changes are awful for the 7.7s that went to 8.0
Constant uptiers and the matches are determined by which side has 8.7 Russia
I honestly can’t think how this would even be a good change for the 5.7-7.0 bracket.
6.7-7.0 will now club the shit out of 5.7-6.0 vehicles since without HEAT-FS most guns can’t pen the late war heavies.
Before that change light armored HEAT-FS slinger were a threat to heavy armor while they could be taken out by other WW2 vehicles.
@@kimjanek646 And it's not like those HEATFS slingers had armor
Most of them had horrible survivability, and even if they did pen you HEAT causes low DMG which rarelly onetapped
If you played heavies correctly and not like a German main thinking you should be front invincible to everything then youd do just fine
If heavies were so bad explain how my first nuke was on the Maus of all things, a tank people complained so much of it facing ATGMs and HEAT. It was against a bunch of T54s too.
I've given up on playing my 8.0 tanks now, I'm sick and tired of the constant downtiers and winning/losing based on which side gets Russia with their stupid good lineup
I used to dislike 105mm cannons. Must be doing something wrong now turny learned me
Aww yisss my favorite American bonker (:
👍. They have imo screwed up the br changes. Even more tanks are at higher br’s then they should be. How do u get down tiers in this tank?
this gun depresses so much to the point i'm depressed cuz i'm a soviet player.
That IS6 got Top Attack APHE
I wonder if this means that it's safe to dust off the Maus now.
Tiger 2 is so fun and good now
I got the t29 2 months ago and 80% of the time I get shot and killed I don't hear the noises. Am I the only one this is happening to?
where are they shooting you on the T29?, what noises now?
@gv4058 It used to be pure silence and it still is pure silence . Just imagine being shot but not hearing the shell hit you
@@blahblahblahblah6339 well that's a new one
You are not the only one
You're not alone, since the past month or so my crew has also been disappearing out of thin air with no sound or visual indication of anyone shooting at me.
Why did bro have like 1k sl at the start
Yay, a new Turny video ❤️🔥
Also, i feel like you are playing premiums because of some certain chests
Is it possible for two players to spawn nuke at the same time?
Yes.
You will get good game with that kind of Ping.. 60ms 😢😢, me always 190ms everytime
Why don't you make air rb content if you play it?
Prob a bunch of nothing. Would take a lot of time just to get enough footage.
I faced a 279 in a cent Mk3 and I gotta tell ya... That wasn't great...
Maybe that's why they left the conqueror at 7.7
I strongly dislike the changes. It doesn't improve the middle BR's for anything except heavies and further misguides players before they transition to even higher tiers where armor stops mattering as much again and they have to relearn the game to fight. The new meta around 8.0 has tanks with thermals, apfsds, stabs, and LRF's, all on the same vehicle, while some tanks in the same match have none of those things. This was done all because a few tanks with heatfs were causing grief and instead of nerfing just those tanks, the whole thing has to get reworked.
I've played 6.7-7.7 in japan, USA, USSR, and france all the way through to spade before these changes and failed to find any matches where there was a systemic balancing issue. Some nations are forced to use prop planes and BR 4.0 AA to fight german jets, and some nations have heat-fs for days, and some have armor that actually works. It seemed all OK to me. I know it's rude to call skill issue but I genuinely think the problem is more with the players than it was with the tanks, barring some narrow situations like the Object 120 which could have been nerfed on its own.
Totally agree. This change did nothing except please the late war enthusiasts who want post-war vehicles to stay away from WW2 vehicles.
I think at one point I was also for it but in reality it only works with some hefty BR compression.
If you go from 5.7 Tiger to 6.7 Tiger II, then you also need the other vehicles to get some insane boost as well.
It worked because there was a balance between APHE, armor and HEAT-FS.
6.7/7.0 had insane armor but it only mattered against maybe 50%, while penetrations most likely didn’t instantly take them out, so it was balanced.
You know you have 3 .50 Cals to work with right? That seems a bit excessive.
I don't have a problem with new BR changes , if there is a weak spot . But the IS3 is king now , no conventional APHE round can reliably pen this monster from the front . Just a luck shot over the mantlet , but not like the IS6 . Not even the big 128mm can do so , they should change something on the IS3 if they keep this BR . Just a tiny weak spot gaijin , nothing more .
If u havent, try the israeli M-51 plays like a sherman but with a fucking 400mm HEAT shell, its broken
Except for France, but France always get's screwed.
France didn't move under 8.0, so all their normal enemies moved up while their 6.7 and 7.3 lineups stayed the same. That's a buff my dude
@@tm1182 Those line ups were already strong, the only vehicle that really benefits is the AMX-50 Foch and maybe the Somua. France 8.0 to 9.0 got butchered. I don't see it as a buff. Several vehicles under 8.0 got moved up for France, but they are unarmored so it doesn't really matter, though over br'd.
@@tm1182 It's not a buff at all.
France's 7.7 grinding lineup was completely broken and now you are forced to take your 7.3s and 7.0s at 8.0.
When you going to take out the Jagdtiger?
Could be me but 9.0 is 9.3 and seems meh now given it's a constant 10.3 fight.
Thankfully I can grind China at 8.7, compared to france where I’m grinding at 9.3 I’m not a huge of that br range rn either
@@thatoneguy1741 Low tier is also kinda painful, getting uptiered from 6.0 to 7.0 all the time
@keylorv1533 that's crazy. 6.0 I get 6.7 on occasion but normally it's a full downtier but that was before the change.
@thatoneguy1741 True for France. My Normal at 7.3 is against 8.3 which most have stabilizers and non conventional rounds. Once in awhile I get a downtier
@@mtrblue If u are not USA, its just hell, cant even pen most of the heavy tanks USA have, and in most of the games, only heavy tanks are there
The second game is perfectly showing a German Team. Keep spawning, keep getting played
Well it shows the game state, nothing changed in shitty respawn locations
@@penclaw While that is true, going out alone without a spotting system similar to AB or WoT is mostly suicide. A little teamplay already helps a lot. Leave the spawn in two or three and not alone, stay together and keep covering eachother. Ah yes and this was a 7.0 battle. Good luck with Panthers and Tiger I vs. 100mm+ guns. Sorry, I am too scared by this xD I see people spawn in outmatched tanks in outmatched situations all the time. It is exhausting haha
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yes agreed
Bro I have the same amount of sl of you
Wooo finally
Fighting T29 in 6.0 (i know it's rare, only 1:5 chance) is totally impossible, side shot is the only chance
MG port
Unless you're a Charioteer player with cheeky 380mm pen APDS.
Lower front plate
Chonker,
0:16 *weakest ferdinand player
I think the T29 should be at 7.3, unless you agree, tell me where a Tiger II (6.7, just .3 BR lower) can kill it frontally.
Mg port, lower plate, turret face, cupola.
@@Hovis_Enjoyer Thanks!
Day 145 of asking for some juicy black prince gameplay 👾
as always thanks for the video mate , i never thought i could be the first one to comment ^^
edit : 3rd ^^'
Playing ger 7.7 now and 8.0 out of 27 games I lost 19 , every game except 4 have been UPTIERS And my kd on all rank 5 tanks have turned to SHIT so if anyone says these changes are good , think very hard
I think the issue is that you have german teammates
@@tm1182So he didn’t have German teammates before? 🙃
Sounds like you need to get a squad together so you know at least 3 on the team know how to play. I can't tell you how many times my squad gets"best squad" doing hardly anything because we are the only ones trying to capture and hold points. Everyone else races to one point, captures, races to spawn camp, gets killed, and repeat process from spawn point. German teams are terrible
@@TeamValkyrie2023 they truly are the worst
*me who never touched 5.7*
First, also pog
How would a lass get to collab with the turny?