Entire MOTU line is build on reuse bodies and in much bigger scale and nobody cares, it's part of that brand. Transformers have so many repaints too, also NECA with Predators and Aliens... Why is so problem at Marvel Legends? As NECA creators says, repaints make money for new sculpts.
Is motu charing 35 dollars for a basic figure in windowless packaging ? NO Motu offers more plastic and better accessories on average at a lower price point thanks for listing out the other brands doing it better at a similar price or cheaper. Legends now priced with neca predators (35 to 40 bucks) basically with 10x less accessories and 10x less sculpting detail and 10x less packaging appeal the problem is not the reuse specifically its the value per dollar and the value is not there and fake marvel influencers and fanboys keep praising and defending lazy bare minimum products. Similar to how you just tried to defend them at there current price point.
@@ArticulatedNinja exactly. for 30 to 35 dollars, you should feel like you're getting your money's worth. most legends, I'm never really wowed by them when I get them in hand. mcfarlane is the opposite. the promo pictures look terrible but the figures look way better in hand. plus, they're 20 bucks (40 for megafigs). the only cons I can think of is working on the scale between figures, lil more paint and some more hands but tbh, most of the accessories end up staying in a box somewhere so that part isn't really that important to me. they could improve on the ab crunch. people cry about thigh swivel but I could care less. it just seems like a redundant point of articulation when you can turn at the ankles. thigh swivels only matter if you wanna put them in a crisscross apple sauce position like a kid sitting on the floor in pe.
Isn't parts reuse a primary aspect of every brand? It's not just Marvel Legends. It's MOTU Classics, Origins, and Revelations. It's Valaverse, Mythic/Cosmic Legions, JoyToy, Boss Fight, Marauders, Mafex, etc... The practice is manifesting more in more in 3rd party transformers with mulitple recolors, rereleases, and remolds. It's the only economical way to put out product without going bankrupt. In many ways it's beneficial for creating uniformity across a brand, but one does run the risk of over saturation. That's probably the biggest crime of Marvel Legends. (That and collectors finally realizing they don't matter as much they'd like to think they do)
@@trialsandtribulations7181 the problem is not reuse its the newer price point they put themselves in without increasing the value of the product in anyway. But at this point lets just say your right I explained myself enough in the video if they were still around 19.99 nobody would care but now they are about $35 for nothing new just a standard blank repaint.
I’m getting really sick of the price increase because “plastic shortage” and “licensing” when the quality is getting worse and you can’t even see the figure anymore before purchasing so potentially every figure will have QC issues. All of this has become a boiling point to where I may just get imports at this point.
No value 25 dollars for nothing. They are struggling because new disney characters do not sell...so they increase prices and repaint classic pieces over and over. Yet non of the savings go towards fans.
With the windowless boxing, there has been a problem with the Spidey Mary Jane 2 pack. Folks are taking the spiders and throwing wwe figures in there. That's messed up. I think I've lost faith too. 😔
Yeah, I’m starting to feel the same way. I went from completist to now getting only what I want. I never praised that GORR for people to buy. I told them straight up that it’s not worth the $30 in my videos. LOL! I feel you on this video bro. Keep doing your thang, Boricua. 😎👊🏽🇵🇷
Manny showing love i appreciate it and we all know you not on that list of influencers that just tell people to buy anything legends , yea i know did tell em its not worth it but we know many that believe it is. Its annoying praising a company clearly barely trying for nothing other then max profit margins. And that's ok I get it just not for me i hope legends start to increase the value of what they offer since they so quick to increase the price. 🤜🤛 #Boricua
I’m in the same boat. Started collecting legends in 2014 and within a year of collecting became a completist too. X-Men was always my main passion but with the price and quality I didn’t mind buying other things at all and it quickly became me wanting everything. My passion started to dwindle with the rerelease of BAFs as single deluxe figures or in multipacks. I still purchased the upgraded figures though because I still loved legends and pricing wasn’t a major turn off at that time. Fast forward to this year though I have narrowed my collection down from roughly 1,200 legends to around 600 due to price increases making me less inclined to collect teams I didn’t care as much about, reuse being worse than ever as well as quality and now I can’t even see the figures paint apps in stores due to windowless packaging. It’s sad seeing a line I loved so much become something I hardly ever am actually excited for now. This is the first year I won’t be backing a legends haslab either.
As a fairly new collector I’m actually grateful for some of their re releases cause I missed a lot of those early figures but I’m getting to a point where I’m getting all the figs that I want so now I’m extremely picking and choosing what I buy, also I don’t buy any repaints like all those Spideys they released this year and last so now I really don’t care about 95% of what they release, the last ones I preordered were Dark Phoenix and Spiral, so yeah I get your point
I’m at the same state. I’ve honestly felt better serviced buying McFarlane’s DC Multiverse especially with their Blackest Night Wave. For $100 you get 4 uniquely sculpted figures at a bigger scale AND a 9 inch Atrocitus that’s also a brand new sculpt. Meanwhile, Hasbro has managed to nostalgia-bait people into buying a $90 Spiderman 3-pack all because 2 of those 3 three figures are new sculpts.
But I think the spider-man pack is worth it, they have the accessories for them. Which I think is pretty cool. But then yeah again they are basically using the same stuff over and over. Your comment is a good argument though.
Hasbro just announced a yellow Daredevil included with Marvel Unlimited for $99. That figure is a repaint of the yellow Daredevil from 2016, which was in turn a repaint of the red Daredevil from 2015 WHICH IN TURN is a repaint of the 2012 Bucky mold. 10 YEARS OF BUCKY CAP. Ridiculous, I was sick of it by 2014-2015.
Same here my dude. I've been buying Super 7 and I'm loving the figures. I've also been delving into Mythic legions and man the difference is staggering. I love the Marvel Legends I have but I find it hard to get myself to even want to buy ML due to Boxes and price not to mention no accessories for the most part.
That base price of 24.99 is atrocious. These should not exceed 19.99. Years ago, I was in contact with a local toy dealer that talked to a Hasbro rep at a toy show weeks prior. This was around the time that Hasbro acquired ML from Toybiz. Remember what you could get from an 8.99 ML Toybiz figure? The Hasbro rep said that Toybiz was charging too little for all that stuff. Hasbro took away a lot and started charging more. And here we are today.
I remember when ToyBiz Legends were $7.99....then they went up to like $12/15. Hasbro came along, and bam! $20 price. Like you said, they said ToyBiz wasn't charging enough lol.
Without plastic on front they are supposed reducing cost but it really doesn’t look like at all. They give you less for more money, it’s really disappointing
I agree completely! Especially the influencer part. They let so many problems slide because hasbro sends them figures. I like how you spoke your mind. I’ll pick a few up but I’ll never pay $30 for a Bucky cap or pizza spidey mold. Never sellout bro!
Never bro im getting that 3 pack you spoke off before n calling it a day even i know im even getting ripped off on that but oh well 😂 was gonna make a mcfarlane video but you already killed that one so i had to focus on marvel 😂
The repaint for 1 or 2 figures a wave I get to offset cost, it's the price increase that took me out like powerturtlebuster reviews was saying. Paying more for less. Todd putting our figures of multiple properties even through the pandemic at break neck speeds, while hasbro kept talking about precedented times and acted like they were struggling. But now the prices went up they are dropping figures like crazy. Weird how that happened
Exactly. Thought that for a while now, all the other Hasbro lines like Power Rangers, Fortnite and G.I. Joe, have better articulation and more accessories for the price.
Just bought the whole bonebreaker wave on clearance at target 12.99 a figure. That's the only way I buy legends now is sales but I agree with everything you said about legends in this video
I barely buy legends anymore except for the occasional figure that strikes my fancy, but classified is my jam nowadays. An example i like to give is the wwe dx line of figures, you get an accurate face, well articulated figure, accessories and two pieces of soft goods all for twenty dollars so what's marvels excuse exactly?
I just came back to collecting and I have to say that the prices they charge now compared back then and what you get, damn. The last ML figure I got is the 20th anniversary cap then I stopped.
I’m so glad you did a 20 minute video talking about me or I would never know who you are this video that I just watched might be the best video on TH-cam thank you for taking the time
Same here dude . I'm stacking my paper now they just cost to much and most are just repaints just facts . Not to mention we get nothing with our figures these days I'm done .
Hell yeah. This would be the only way I would even consider the current Haslab Robbie Reyes: If the figure was Mafex level premium with the car, and include the civilian Robbie as well, it would be worth the price. But the current offering is a very mid repaint. The headsculpt is good, but the body looks like standard cartoony Legends body to me...
I agree with you 100%, but I kinda like the Gorr the God Butcher figure. I did notice the feet, but I didn't know that it was a complete repaint of another figure.
AMEENN AMEEEN AMEEEEEEEENNNNNN man, if only these toy "influencers" watched this and swallowed their pride. I a million percent agree with this. Influencers are basically paid promoters and salesmen.
I just started to make enough money to start collecting I'm just trying to get the better version of what I had and some that I didn't even know of or didn't exist back then like Iron Spidey. But I am not a completionist
The problem with marvel legends is that there's too much. we get like 18-20 figures for the baf series of the year, then the deluxes, retro cards, and exclusives. it feels like Hasbro is banking on having 90% of these on clearance. This is the case here overseas, since we pay 5-10$ more on retail. Hasbro is pulling the same shit they did for transformers; having the influencers and community leaders placate the dent-head with their pignosis.
Thank you stating what I sincerely feel about Hasbro's ML brand. It is comforting to hear someone else articulate the same feelings I have shared within the last 6-8 months. If dedication and commitment are forsaken by the manufacturer to justify keeping costs comparable to value, I understand. To oppose and misguide the brand to increase the prices instead (while lowering the quality) dismisses collecting their product as a hobby. Perhaps Hasbro could recognize their faulty direction and focus on the issues that hold a higher priority over the needs of their collectors - their black hole of a distribution network. The bottom line for the boardroom is money. Lower quality + higher prices + less product for public consumption + unquestionably lousy character selection and design = a soon to be tax right off for Hasbro with at least three faces unemployed. 11 billion dollars in revenue people. And they expect reasonable collectors to fork over their $$$ for a Venom with wings (that appeared in 2 comic book panels?) that disengages the articulation of the figure to a statue-state. If you can port them on it. 11 billion dollars. REVENUE. One would think someone at Hasbro rationalized 10 billion dollars was not enough, so lets push the consumers, and see if the marketplace follows. Hasbro has a lot to learn about greed.
Honestly man I quit buying marvel legends like crazy. At this point I only own very few marvel legends as I saw that molds where being used again and again and again! I feel you brother! Though I'm guilty of getting that no way home figure. 🤣
100% agree I’m extremely selective when it comes to marvel legends these days just pick up the very rare comic release like the Amazon exclusive Venom 3 pk but I’m all in on classified line they utilize clever reuse mixing arms legs torsos etc not just repainting the same mold over and over, also buying a lot of DC multiverse lately.. dark days are ahead for Marvel Legends and Star Wars Black Series thanks to Disney.
As someone who started collecting again last year, I'm close to being in the same boat but I'm missing plenty characters I want, and seems like a bad time now more than ever to get em. But getting more selective/patient, waiting for discounts etc. Black series is also seemingly in a bad place at least worth-wise. When they mold something new you get punished for it with a deluxe price on some bullshit. If the licensing fees are mostly to blame (idk how bad it is) then damn some people need to get together and work a new deal out. If you can't afford to put out quality products cuz you're paying too much for the privilege, noone really wins except Disney. Until people stop buying so damn much
@@gmedrano3720 It'd be super tough for me to switch like that but I've thought about it, the benefits probably outweigh the issues. The kit bashing possibilities alone are a good enough excuse for me, plus I feel I'm all in on 6 inch scale at this point, minus some McFarlanes I cant resist
I've always bought just the figures I wanted but i too have cut back. I usually buy the z-lister characters like Rock Python, White Rabbit and Frog Man. The thing that gets me more than just simply reusing bodies is some of the choices for those bodies. Some are pretty clever but then you get Sleepwalker and D'Spayre on bodies far too small to represent them properly. Using the Gwen Stacy body on Marvel Girl puts her at a different scale than the other Jean Grey figures.
I agree with you but I stopped in 2020. I buy now 1 or 2% of there figures now. I recently bought the Renew Your Vows 2 pack. Before that was the Hydro Stomper.
I rarely buy Legends these days and it's depressing because that was the main thing I was collecting for years. Prices raising with re-used molds is forcing me out. I would've went all in on the X-Men VHS repaints though because I waited for figures in that style since Hasbro got the license- but they did the horrible cel shading and ruined them 😩
I’m with you 100 percent…. At this point I can buy cheaper figures to customize for the price of these marvel legends, which will be more detailed and accurate than the cheap paint apps they give us
its no different with WWE, Mattel & their Elites etc. Theyve used the same molds since 2010. They still use some headsculpts from 2010 when the line first started.
Is motu charing 35 dollars for a basic figure in windowless packaging ? No Neither is wrestling figures Motu and wrestling figures are bigger offering more plastic and better accessories on average at a lower price point. Legends now priced with neca predators (35 to 40 bucks) basically with 10x less accessories and 10x less original sculpting detail and 10x less packaging appeal the problem is not the reuse specifically its the value per dollar and the value is not there and fake marvel influencers and fanboys keep praising and defending lazy bare minimum products.
ML is still my number 1 line for collecting, but I've become more selective with the figures over the last couple of years. Yes, repaints suck, but it does allow for a higher amount of more obscure figures to be produced, as opposed to just more versions of Iron Man, Wolverine and Spider-Man being made. I do also appreciate that the figures are slowly getting better, even if it's not happening very fast. The pinless joint tech being applied is something I've waited a very long time for, so even though I'm being more selective, I'm still going to stick with the line.
I feel you. I've been cherry picking Marvel figures for years. I basically pick figures I have nostalgia for, like the 80th anniversary Avengers figures or the 30th anniversary Captain America , or obscure figures like Death-lock or Captain Mar-Vel.
That same Deathlok now would be a pulse con haslab disney + whatever exclusive for $39.99. Legendary Riders went from $8/10 to $50, now they'd be $80. By the beginning of next year, Legends are gonna cost the same as Mafex. No more objectively can't compare the two lines since one's a premium import company.
I'm done with Marvel Legends just for the price alone. It's not worth what they are asking for at all. It would be neat to see a video of your Marvel Legends figures that have different sculpts. Like your definitive versions of the characters.
Well speaking for myself. I have been a comic book reader since 1973 yup 73 and I have gone through the mego, metel , toy biz era’s and I love seeing all of my characters I have been reading for 50 years be represented on the shelves. All of you collectors are so spoiled. Wah wah wah I want , I deserve more. Wah wah wah!! Back in my youth I would have never thought I would see a razorback or a spy master or a grey gargoyle and so on and so on be on my shelf in a actual articulated Poseable figure. So my old 56 year old collector loves to see these toys. It is like a friend thought I would never see . So yes tge prices are a bit higher then they should be. But as you said your in control of your collection and how you go about growing it. But when it comes down to it hasbro and McFarlane who are the leaders in this business are out to make money. So you can either keep crying about it, choose to not buy them or enjoy the ones you do buy. Whatever you choose keep collecting and enjoying your action figures.
I collected Marvel Universe. They’re smaller and I can work them into my 3.75” Joes if needed. My legend collection is barely big enough to even call a collection.
This is why I am very selective when it comes to collecting Marvel Legends. If I have a decent comic book Spidey, Punisher, Ghost Rider and Iron Man then that do be it for me really.
That list needs updating. They are STILL using that bucky cap mold in 2022, sleepwalker comes to mind. Look at the new?? ghost rider figure. I saw a comment on boogs channel where someone said dc multiverse are dominating marvel legends right now and boog laughed and said no way. Man these influencers so far up hasbros ass its unreal. Do better hasbro, before you kill this line for good.
100% Respect for the honest opinion. I've been collecting for a few years now and the majority of my collection is Legends. I'm fine with the reuse if done right, but the lack of accessories and rigorous use of outdated molds is getting old hands down "no hands if it's Legends". Gi Joe classified is fantastic for the price and they give you accessories for each figure. Recently got Croc Master and Storm Shadow awesome figures..... Legends are going downhill for the most part.... every now and then they nail it, I do like that they give us more obscure characters. That Amazon Spiderman 5 pack was a hard slap in the face....
Im fine with the reusing of sculpts of bodies when it comes to comic figures, since most of them have a similar anatomy and form, but the prices are really unjustified
Me too, I cancelled Apocalypse, Scorpion and many others, they are lowering the quality, the paint, releasing years old figures and engineering, re-use, while being a multi billion dollar company they are severely cheaping out and disrespecting the consumers and fans who have been loyal for years. They want to fool a new group and set a new high base line eventually for what they can get away with charging, and are running off all the old collectors and those unwilling to pay. When a lot of the old versions were better and cheaper, selling newer, more expensive, lower quality and less paint versions for people is just an insult for those who know, those who don't know are being tricked and scammed, and those who give in are only helping Hasbro to ruin things for all of us and themselves to. Everyone should always want the very best for the lowest possible, the highest quality for free being best of all, and what is next to that being the next best for the consumer and enjoyer, and so on, but Hasbro is moving in the direction of giving the least for the most cost to us, so that is not the direction anyone should want. They won't listen until most people stop. We demand better than this after giving the company so much. Do not buy!
Really nice video with a lot of great points. I was really surprised by all the praise for Gorr too, and the Captain America side-by-side was a nice touch
At this point I am starting to wonder if there is better options for Marvel figures. Is SH Figuarts decent or do they have QC issues? I know MAFEX has its issues too right?
If you mainly collect Iron man or Spidey figures, you may want to take a look at ZD toys. Decent quality, generous amount of accessories and alt hands, for a fraction of what you'll pay for marvel legends. Plus their packaging is really good kinda like other premium brands.
Church!!!!! I’ve been cut back on ML… it’s sad to have so much great material misused… shout out to you for point out the obvious, we need more voices like yours gang
The last one I got was Walgreens Jigsaw, and it was close to $30, and wasn't exactly happy with it, still in the box. The last one before that was Wong, and only Wong from that wave. 🤷 I want Ned and Peter, we'll see, but I don't really care for them anymore.
This company has been lazy from the jump, in 2007 they reused the toybiz molds? Like really, reuse the molds from the previous company and give them worse paint jobs? This was for the Spider-Man 3 6 inch figures and they’ve been trying to cut corners since the beginning, trying to have 5 inch figures for the Spider-Man 3 line also. The toybiz move figures were killer, and hasbro robbed us of an epic Spider-Man 3 line. From the start they didn’t care about the buyer, it isn’t gonna change.
Started streamlining my Marvel Legends starting with the MCU figures then Spidey figures. Only collected X-Men until last year, with so many repaints I already stopped buying Marvel Legends. My last ML figures will be Vulcan anf Siryn and they will be the last. Will only concentrate with the GI Joe Classified line and a little bit of Action Force
Everything you said is 100% factual. I collected Legends for a good 10 years and finally sold my entire collection and stopped collecting new ones this year, once the trends you pointed out got noticeably worse and finally made me say enough is enough. And it got REALLY bad for me, because I, like most collectors, only collected comic based figures, but the comics based figures are the ones that Hasbro takes the most shortcuts with and makes look the cheapest, while jacking the prices on them up higher and higher. I'm glad I got out of collecting Legends when I did.
You know what it is bruh??? They feel like they don’t have to try with marvel legends cus the fan base is so big.. so they put effort into the other lines in order to get a core customer base then they gonna start hitting them with the same b.s
I started collecting Marvel Legends in 2007 and the line has been my mainstay for 15 years, and it remains the main display today. That said, due to the very reasons you stated in this video, I've been extremely selective with the line this year. How many? So far in 2022, I've picked up seven ML figures in total. Among these seven are the 20th Cap, Classic Dr. Strange, Baron Zemo and Shocker -- most of them have new, unique sculpts. From a character perspective, I want some of the new releases such as USAgent, Speedball, Madame Hydra and Siryn, but the reuses and repaints just don't cut it anymore at the high price points. So, I'm in complete agreement with you on this. I too am done with Marvel Legends.
my sentiments exactly. enough with the painted gloves and boots, the price raise already sucks, the uninspired reused body mold plus the bazillion times they keep releasing different versions of the same character is killing my love for this toy line.
I'm in the same state as well because I haven't bought a marvel legends figures since July the last figure that I bought was the black suit spiderman from the sandman wave the only figures I'll probably going to pick up is the iron spider and the first appearance spiderman
I realized this a few years ago. It started slowing down. Then when multiverse started coming out, I pretty much stopped buying legends all together save for very specific character families and even then Im very picky. The bafs can't even bring me back.
They may aswell be sold on the second hand market on a lower price. Hell, I found a Marvel Legend in full packaging sold for 11.00, which should be the price for figures with little to no accessories. and the sunfire body mold is doo doo.
Damn bro you said a mouth full I've been got rid of my Marvel Legends 2 years ago same figures back to back repaints reissue and thank you to some people still collect this s***
Not to mention the multi figure pack scams, I did not buy Nimrod because it was packed together with two random figure i did not needed, I did not buy Shadowcat... well 1) because it was a lazy repain no updated articulation, no pinless, 2 the head does not look like her in my opinon. 3) because it was a 3 pack. I remember I really wanted a Black Tom to company my Juggernaut... but that figure came out the same time as Major Bludd, and when I compared the two... i just could not justify buying Black Tom. Recently I really wanted to have a Madam Hydra/viper next to Silver Samurai, that figure looks so horrible inhand, I sold it to a customizer friend XD
Yeah man, I've been super pick and a choose when it comes to Legends lately as well. I would rather spend the $ on a different line that has more to offer or get an import or something, i just recently got on the wait list for that Mezco Gig from Hell box set, that set is right up my alley(i was a drummer for a few metal bands) I still haven't opened my series 1 Captain America since I got it back in series 1, any idea how hard it was to not open that? Lol.
Just like you I only collect VERY specific legends anymore. When toybiz was making them I am pretty sure I had Atleast 85% , now because of all the repaints and price increase I probably buy one figure per every 3 or 4 waves that come out 😩 As for influencers…. You’re the only person that makes me run and buy the stuff you review because your opinion is on point and you’re so creative !
I hear ya bruh, Hasbro known for their cash grabs, that's their M.O. and I predicted McFarlane's going to take over once DC multiverse was introduced & he decided to bring back Spawn action figures. Btw that Mech you needed, Avatar movie AMP mega fig now available for preorder on Amazon Gamestop EE and BBTS. I preordered 2 since you came up with the idea use for EXO suits for GI Joe Classified series. Good stuff bruh 👍
I totally agree too. I have no problem paying more for more. They are cutting corners and increasing the price. I'm very selective in what I buy now. More and more I get a figure, and carry it around for a bit, then I end up just putting it back. I've been buying only what I really like. I know this isn't Marvel Legends related, but the one new mold that they did for Transformers ended up as a Walmart exclusive. Not only that, they short packed it...putting only one in each case. Scalpers have been having a field day with that one. And no, I am not paying scalper's prices for that.
With the price increase Hasbro could at least give more. Different heads, weapons, better effect parts. I realized I kinda stopped buying new legends figures this year. I been buying figures loose for $10-$15 at toy shows.
I gave up Marvel Legends and Black Series, they seems to be made of cheaper plastic and don't come with much, Other lines seem to have more bang for the buck
I’ve been collecting for 18 years now. Legends have been my bread and butter. Over the last 3 years the lack of accessories and now this price hike has killed the line from me. I can afford the line but the value just isn’t there. When I can purchase a mythic legion/cosmic legion or a Action Force for the same price with plentiful accessories and a quality product. I would rather purchase custom head sculpts and parts for the figures I already own. Support small businesses because we know big businesses don’t care about the consumer.
I have cancelled more Marvel Legends orders than ever lately. I used to buy 2 of each, one to open and let my kid play with and one to open and display or keep MOC. Now, if I buy, I get just one….and I am only buying what I LOVE, not what seems cool. Reuse is ok, but not when you aren’t getting what you pay for…the $22 to $24 to $27 to $30 to $35 price increase…..nope
I have sold pretty much all of my Marvel Legends years ago. It was in 2018. A big reason why is because of the repaints too. I have recently bought some movie ones because they look good and the design are bland enough that with some small changes they would not look out of place with GI Joe Classified, which is my brand. Since I got back into collecting this year, I have bought some Legends, it's a lot less than what I used to buy, and I have no interest trying to assemble a major ML collection. Most of the toys they make nowadays are very bland looking, they lack exciting features, and as you mentionned, when guys like Valaverse make stuff that is that awesome, I just don't care anymore for Legends for the most part. So I am pretty much on the same boat as you are.
That is probably the biggest issue I’ve had. How did toybiz do dioramas, accessories figure and a comic without charging an arm and a leg? Like does it cost hasbro a lot or are they just being greedy
Only time I buy Marvel Legends is if it's on clearance, but since their distribution sucks you rarely see them at all... With all the reuse the least they could do is make them cheaper.
Was just talking about how great the toybiz line was and how original, then came across this, I agree with you and like the little acknowledgment of Mcfarlane original sculpts Atleast
I pretty much only get what I really like, and it’s not much, waiting for figures like Sabertooth TAS figure, A Zombie Wolverine, a new werewolf by night, a new blob and new Daken
My pre order came in for Toad in Canada its 45 plus tax I said thanks all pass on that. Definitely getting to the point where I buy one ML every 5 waves. Awesome video as usual
I mostly agree. There have always been those stand out legends, ones with amazing head sculpts or just a new body that fits well. You can look at a shelf and tell which are "new" and which are repaints, with the price going up it increases that quality gap, the repaints just don't look good at a price above $19.99. Last legend I bought was the 80th anniversary Captain America and I dont have any I plan to pick up ATM. Basically just looking for upgrades in my Marvel vs Capcom collection at this point. I'm more tempted by Power Ranger releases these days, GI Joe has almost gotten me to buy some too lol.
What killed it for me was the price, 30 for a spiderman is insano. Reuse doesn’t really make me upset, as a MOTU collector, it’s just par for the course for the same body over and over again. But hasbro reuse is lazy
5:45 and further, so sad , but that HISS tank is going to be 🔥, but with even the place you work, and I work. The skill is dumbed down so there is no thought process so it brings stress to the employees. It's not just at Hasbro. And CEO's are the profit suckers of the world . And design and new product will always loss. But you also have to look at the amount of figures that are being made per year. Going from 20 "new" figures back in 1999, to now and we are getting 60 "new" figures .
Entire MOTU line is build on reuse bodies and in much bigger scale and nobody cares, it's part of that brand. Transformers have so many repaints too, also NECA with Predators and Aliens... Why is so problem at Marvel Legends? As NECA creators says, repaints make money for new sculpts.
Is motu charing 35 dollars for a basic figure in windowless packaging ? NO
Motu offers more plastic and better accessories on average at a lower price point thanks for listing out the other brands doing it better at a similar price or cheaper.
Legends now priced with neca predators (35 to 40 bucks) basically with 10x less accessories and 10x less sculpting detail and 10x less packaging appeal the problem is not the reuse specifically its the value per dollar and the value is not there and fake marvel influencers and fanboys keep praising and defending lazy bare minimum products. Similar to how you just tried to defend them at there current price point.
@@ArticulatedNinja exactly. for 30 to 35 dollars, you should feel like you're getting your money's worth. most legends, I'm never really wowed by them when I get them in hand. mcfarlane is the opposite. the promo pictures look terrible but the figures look way better in hand. plus, they're 20 bucks (40 for megafigs). the only cons I can think of is working on the scale between figures, lil more paint and some more hands but tbh, most of the accessories end up staying in a box somewhere so that part isn't really that important to me. they could improve on the ab crunch. people cry about thigh swivel but I could care less. it just seems like a redundant point of articulation when you can turn at the ankles. thigh swivels only matter if you wanna put them in a crisscross apple sauce position like a kid sitting on the floor in pe.
@@ArticulatedNinja not to back up Marvel Legends but NECA’s figures are soooo brittle. They’re both ripping us off.
Isn't parts reuse a primary aspect of every brand? It's not just Marvel Legends. It's MOTU Classics, Origins, and Revelations. It's Valaverse, Mythic/Cosmic Legions, JoyToy, Boss Fight, Marauders, Mafex, etc... The practice is manifesting more in more in 3rd party transformers with mulitple recolors, rereleases, and remolds. It's the only economical way to put out product without going bankrupt. In many ways it's beneficial for creating uniformity across a brand, but one does run the risk of over saturation. That's probably the biggest crime of Marvel Legends. (That and collectors finally realizing they don't matter as much they'd like to think they do)
@@trialsandtribulations7181 the problem is not reuse its the newer price point they put themselves in without increasing the value of the product in anyway. But at this point lets just say your right I explained myself enough in the video if they were still around 19.99 nobody would care but now they are about $35 for nothing new just a standard blank repaint.
I’m getting really sick of the price increase because “plastic shortage” and “licensing” when the quality is getting worse and you can’t even see the figure anymore before purchasing so potentially every figure will have QC issues. All of this has become a boiling point to where I may just get imports at this point.
Well worded 🔥
No value 25 dollars for nothing.
They are struggling because new disney characters do not sell...so they increase prices and repaint classic pieces over and over.
Yet non of the savings go towards fans.
Same marvel legends is not worth it anymore might as well buy an shf or mafex instead
With the windowless boxing, there has been a problem with the Spidey Mary Jane 2 pack. Folks are taking the spiders and throwing wwe figures in there. That's messed up. I think I've lost faith too. 😔
There's a plastic shortage?
It's made out of oil , there's plenty of oil or is it the plastic factories shortage?
Imagine if toybiz was out making figures today, all their figures would be bangers
Most likely yea 🔥
Yeah, I’m starting to feel the same way. I went from completist to now getting only what I want. I never praised that GORR for people to buy. I told them straight up that it’s not worth the $30 in my videos. LOL! I feel you on this video bro. Keep doing your thang, Boricua. 😎👊🏽🇵🇷
Manny showing love i appreciate it and we all know you not on that list of influencers that just tell people to buy anything legends , yea i know did tell em its not worth it but we know many that believe it is. Its annoying praising a company clearly barely trying for nothing other then max profit margins. And that's ok I get it just not for me i hope legends start to increase the value of what they offer since they so quick to increase the price. 🤜🤛 #Boricua
I’m in the same boat. Started collecting legends in 2014 and within a year of collecting became a completist too. X-Men was always my main passion but with the price and quality I didn’t mind buying other things at all and it quickly became me wanting everything. My passion started to dwindle with the rerelease of BAFs as single deluxe figures or in multipacks. I still purchased the upgraded figures though because I still loved legends and pricing wasn’t a major turn off at that time. Fast forward to this year though I have narrowed my collection down from roughly 1,200 legends to around 600 due to price increases making me less inclined to collect teams I didn’t care as much about, reuse being worse than ever as well as quality and now I can’t even see the figures paint apps in stores due to windowless packaging. It’s sad seeing a line I loved so much become something I hardly ever am actually excited for now. This is the first year I won’t be backing a legends haslab either.
As a fairly new collector I’m actually grateful for some of their re releases cause I missed a lot of those early figures but I’m getting to a point where I’m getting all the figs that I want so now I’m extremely picking and choosing what I buy, also I don’t buy any repaints like all those Spideys they released this year and last so now I really don’t care about 95% of what they release, the last ones I preordered were Dark Phoenix and Spiral, so yeah I get your point
I’m at the same state. I’ve honestly felt better serviced buying McFarlane’s DC Multiverse especially with their Blackest Night Wave. For $100 you get 4 uniquely sculpted figures at a bigger scale AND a 9 inch Atrocitus that’s also a brand new sculpt. Meanwhile, Hasbro has managed to nostalgia-bait people into buying a $90 Spiderman 3-pack all because 2 of those 3 three figures are new sculpts.
But I think the spider-man pack is worth it, they have the accessories for them. Which I think is pretty cool. But then yeah again they are basically using the same stuff over and over. Your comment is a good argument though.
@@Oreo__. be gone shill
Hasbro just announced a yellow Daredevil included with Marvel Unlimited for $99. That figure is a repaint of the yellow Daredevil from 2016, which was in turn a repaint of the red Daredevil from 2015 WHICH IN TURN is a repaint of the 2012 Bucky mold. 10 YEARS OF BUCKY CAP. Ridiculous, I was sick of it by 2014-2015.
😂 well worded you got me over here cracking up
Dude the Bucky cap mold is STILL in use…parts of it certainly are…arms, legs, especially those awful small ass feet
😂😂😂
Same here my dude. I've been buying Super 7 and I'm loving the figures. I've also been delving into Mythic legions and man the difference is staggering. I love the Marvel Legends I have but I find it hard to get myself to even want to buy ML due to Boxes and price not to mention no accessories for the most part.
I can dig it! $25 - $40 for a figure with no accessories. I'll pass. No thank you.
same here
Get into 1/6 figures. You’ll appreciate the figures more.
I moved to hot toys. Reason is I feel happier with hot toys, despite paying the extra money.
That base price of 24.99 is atrocious. These should not exceed 19.99. Years ago, I was in contact with a local toy dealer that talked to a Hasbro rep at a toy show weeks prior. This was around the time that Hasbro acquired ML from Toybiz. Remember what you could get from an 8.99 ML Toybiz figure? The Hasbro rep said that Toybiz was charging too little for all that stuff. Hasbro took away a lot and started charging more. And here we are today.
I remember when ToyBiz Legends were $7.99....then they went up to like $12/15. Hasbro came along, and bam! $20 price. Like you said, they said ToyBiz wasn't charging enough lol.
I feel mcu figures are more worth paying the money for since everything is usually new sculpt and new extra shit.
Without plastic on front they are supposed reducing cost but it really doesn’t look like at all. They give you less for more money, it’s really disappointing
I agree completely! Especially the influencer part. They let so many problems slide because hasbro sends them figures. I like how you spoke your mind. I’ll pick a few up but I’ll never pay $30 for a Bucky cap or pizza spidey mold. Never sellout bro!
Never bro im getting that 3 pack you spoke off before n calling it a day even i know im even getting ripped off on that but oh well 😂 was gonna make a mcfarlane video but you already killed that one so i had to focus on marvel 😂
@@ArticulatedNinja that’s what’s up man!
Nowadays i buy toybiz figures cuz hasbro legends sucks at making Spiderman figures since they can't make wall crawling hands
The repaint for 1 or 2 figures a wave I get to offset cost, it's the price increase that took me out like powerturtlebuster reviews was saying. Paying more for less. Todd putting our figures of multiple properties even through the pandemic at break neck speeds, while hasbro kept talking about precedented times and acted like they were struggling. But now the prices went up they are dropping figures like crazy. Weird how that happened
Exactly. Thought that for a while now, all the other Hasbro lines like Power Rangers, Fortnite and G.I. Joe, have better articulation and more accessories for the price.
So, I am picking up Marvel Legends figures for the variety of characters that I care about. Just got that Blue Marvel. It's fire 🔥.
Yea his head sculpt looks really good
Just bought the whole bonebreaker wave on clearance at target 12.99 a figure. That's the only way I buy legends now is sales but I agree with everything you said about legends in this video
Yea 12.99 id pick them up to no questions asked 😂
Is this clearance nation wide? I've been waiting for a sale for those figures.
@@holonet1 targets are preparing for the mind controller wave so the bonebreaker wave is on clearance to make space
only wish it is same here.....too bad it is not
@@holonet1 check Amazon they go up and down weekly
I barely buy legends anymore except for the occasional figure that strikes my fancy, but classified is my jam nowadays. An example i like to give is the wwe dx line of figures, you get an accurate face, well articulated figure, accessories and two pieces of soft goods all for twenty dollars so what's marvels excuse exactly?
I just came back to collecting and I have to say that the prices they charge now compared back then and what you get, damn. The last ML figure I got is the 20th anniversary cap then I stopped.
I left Marvel Legends alone months ago and sold all of the Legends that I owned. It was a fun time, but that chapter is closed in my collecting life.
I’m so glad you did a 20 minute video talking about me or I would never know who you are this video that I just watched might be the best video on TH-cam thank you for taking the time
I appreciate that art thanks 🤜🤛
Same here dude . I'm stacking my paper now they just cost to much and most are just repaints just facts . Not to mention we get nothing with our figures these days I'm done .
You hit the nail on the head. I’d much rather spend $100 and get Mafex
Hell yeah. This would be the only way I would even consider the current Haslab Robbie Reyes: If the figure was Mafex level premium with the car, and include the civilian Robbie as well, it would be worth the price. But the current offering is a very mid repaint. The headsculpt is good, but the body looks like standard cartoony Legends body to me...
I agree with you 100%, but I kinda like the Gorr the God Butcher figure. I did notice the feet, but I didn't know that it was a complete repaint of another figure.
AMEENN AMEEEN AMEEEEEEEENNNNNN man, if only these toy "influencers" watched this and swallowed their pride. I a million percent agree with this. Influencers are basically paid promoters and salesmen.
And they barely get paid to be such sellouts 😂
I just started to make enough money to start collecting I'm just trying to get the better version of what I had and some that I didn't even know of or didn't exist back then like Iron Spidey. But I am not a completionist
The problem with marvel legends is that there's too much.
we get like 18-20 figures for the baf series of the year, then the deluxes, retro cards, and exclusives. it feels like Hasbro is banking on having 90% of these on clearance.
This is the case here overseas, since we pay 5-10$ more on retail.
Hasbro is pulling the same shit they did for transformers; having the influencers and community leaders placate the dent-head with their pignosis.
Good point well worded
Thank you stating what I sincerely feel about Hasbro's ML brand. It is comforting to hear someone else articulate the same feelings I have shared within the last 6-8 months. If dedication and commitment are forsaken by the manufacturer to justify keeping costs comparable to value, I understand. To oppose and misguide the brand to increase the prices instead (while lowering the quality) dismisses collecting their product as a hobby.
Perhaps Hasbro could recognize their faulty direction and focus on the issues that hold a higher priority over the needs of their collectors - their black hole of a distribution network. The bottom line for the boardroom is money. Lower quality + higher prices + less product for public consumption + unquestionably lousy character selection and design = a soon to be tax right off for Hasbro with at least three faces unemployed.
11 billion dollars in revenue people. And they expect reasonable collectors to fork over their $$$ for a Venom with wings (that appeared in 2 comic book panels?) that disengages the articulation of the figure to a statue-state. If you can port them on it. 11 billion dollars. REVENUE. One would think someone at Hasbro rationalized 10 billion dollars was not enough, so lets push the consumers, and see if the marketplace follows. Hasbro has a lot to learn about greed.
Well worded man well worded 🔥
@@ArticulatedNinja bro - your video said it all!
They should be $15 a figure period.
Honestly man I quit buying marvel legends like crazy. At this point I only own very few marvel legends as I saw that molds where being used again and again and again! I feel you brother!
Though I'm guilty of getting that no way home figure. 🤣
100% agree I’m extremely selective when it comes to marvel legends these days just pick up the very rare comic release like the Amazon exclusive Venom 3 pk but I’m all in on classified line they utilize clever reuse mixing arms legs torsos etc not just repainting the same mold over and over, also buying a lot of DC multiverse lately.. dark days are ahead for Marvel Legends and Star Wars Black Series thanks to Disney.
As someone who started collecting again last year, I'm close to being in the same boat but I'm missing plenty characters I want, and seems like a bad time now more than ever to get em. But getting more selective/patient, waiting for discounts etc.
Black series is also seemingly in a bad place at least worth-wise. When they mold something new you get punished for it with a deluxe price on some bullshit.
If the licensing fees are mostly to blame (idk how bad it is) then damn some people need to get together and work a new deal out. If you can't afford to put out quality products cuz you're paying too much for the privilege, noone really wins except Disney. Until people stop buying so damn much
I stopped buying black series a few months back. I sold most of them and switched to the vintage collection.
@@gmedrano3720 It'd be super tough for me to switch like that but I've thought about it, the benefits probably outweigh the issues. The kit bashing possibilities alone are a good enough excuse for me, plus I feel I'm all in on 6 inch scale at this point, minus some McFarlanes I cant resist
Ahmen brother ! Same here. Im tired of having to repaint and even resculpt certain marvel legends.
I've always bought just the figures I wanted but i too have cut back. I usually buy the z-lister characters like Rock Python, White Rabbit and Frog Man. The thing that gets me more than just simply reusing bodies is some of the choices for those bodies. Some are pretty clever but then you get Sleepwalker and D'Spayre on bodies far too small to represent them properly. Using the Gwen Stacy body on Marvel Girl puts her at a different scale than the other Jean Grey figures.
Good points
Thank you
I agree with you but I stopped in 2020. I buy now 1 or 2% of there figures now. I recently bought the Renew Your Vows 2 pack. Before that was the Hydro Stomper.
Yes that stomper was nice to me 🔥
Legends' quality is never consistent. Has pinless tech but can't do it for every figure, smh.
I pretty much only buy Marvel Legends if they're discounted. I just bought Vulcan and the new Sabretooth at Target for $12.50 each.
I rarely buy Legends these days and it's depressing because that was the main thing I was collecting for years. Prices raising with re-used molds is forcing me out. I would've went all in on the X-Men VHS repaints though because I waited for figures in that style since Hasbro got the license- but they did the horrible cel shading and ruined them 😩
I’m with you 100 percent…. At this point I can buy cheaper figures to customize for the price of these marvel legends, which will be more detailed and accurate than the cheap paint apps they give us
I significantly had stopped buying Legends. For me it's the character selection. I like more comic characters. Price doesn't bother me too much.
its no different with WWE, Mattel & their Elites etc.
Theyve used the same molds since 2010.
They still use some headsculpts from 2010 when the line first started.
Is motu charing 35 dollars for a basic figure in windowless packaging ? No Neither is wrestling figures
Motu and wrestling figures are bigger offering more plastic and better accessories on average at a lower price point.
Legends now priced with neca predators (35 to 40 bucks) basically with 10x less accessories and 10x less original sculpting detail and 10x less packaging appeal the problem is not the reuse specifically its the value per dollar and the value is not there and fake marvel influencers and fanboys keep praising and defending lazy bare minimum products.
ML is still my number 1 line for collecting, but I've become more selective with the figures over the last couple of years. Yes, repaints suck, but it does allow for a higher amount of more obscure figures to be produced, as opposed to just more versions of Iron Man, Wolverine and Spider-Man being made.
I do also appreciate that the figures are slowly getting better, even if it's not happening very fast. The pinless joint tech being applied is something I've waited a very long time for, so even though I'm being more selective, I'm still going to stick with the line.
I agree most of my custom mold are the same body and the prices are getting nuts with them too
I feel you. I've been cherry picking Marvel figures for years. I basically pick figures I have nostalgia for, like the 80th anniversary Avengers figures or the 30th anniversary Captain America , or obscure figures like Death-lock or Captain Mar-Vel.
That same Deathlok now would be a pulse con haslab disney + whatever exclusive for $39.99. Legendary Riders went from $8/10 to $50, now they'd be $80. By the beginning of next year, Legends are gonna cost the same as Mafex. No more objectively can't compare the two lines since one's a premium import company.
I'm done with Marvel Legends just for the price alone. It's not worth what they are asking for at all. It would be neat to see a video of your Marvel Legends figures that have different sculpts. Like your definitive versions of the characters.
Yea i gotta work on that one 🔥
Well speaking for myself. I have been a comic book reader since 1973 yup 73 and I have gone through the mego, metel , toy biz era’s and I love seeing all of my characters I have been reading for 50 years be represented on the shelves. All of you collectors are so spoiled. Wah wah wah I want , I deserve more. Wah wah wah!! Back in my youth I would have never thought I would see a razorback or a spy master or a grey gargoyle and so on and so on be on my shelf in a actual articulated Poseable figure. So my old 56 year old collector loves to see these toys. It is like a friend thought I would never see . So yes tge prices are a bit higher then they should be. But as you said your in control of your collection and how you go about growing it. But when it comes down to it hasbro and McFarlane who are the leaders in this business are out to make money. So you can either keep crying about it, choose to not buy them or enjoy the ones you do buy. Whatever you choose keep collecting and enjoying your action figures.
Yea i speak with my money unlike others who continue to buy everything and cry or act like nothing is wrong 😂
I collected Marvel Universe. They’re smaller and I can work them into my 3.75” Joes if needed. My legend collection is barely big enough to even call a collection.
My toybiz Mr sinister and many other Toybiz classics can't be beat!
This is why I am very selective when it comes to collecting Marvel Legends.
If I have a decent comic book Spidey, Punisher, Ghost Rider and Iron Man then that do be it for me really.
That list needs updating. They are STILL using that bucky cap mold in 2022, sleepwalker comes to mind. Look at the new?? ghost rider figure. I saw a comment on boogs channel where someone said dc multiverse are dominating marvel legends right now and boog laughed and said no way. Man these influencers so far up hasbros ass its unreal. Do better hasbro, before you kill this line for good.
100% Respect for the honest opinion. I've been collecting for a few years now and the majority of my collection is Legends. I'm fine with the reuse if done right, but the lack of accessories and rigorous use of outdated molds is getting old hands down "no hands if it's Legends". Gi Joe classified is fantastic for the price and they give you accessories for each figure. Recently got Croc Master and Storm Shadow awesome figures..... Legends are going downhill for the most part.... every now and then they nail it, I do like that they give us more obscure characters. That Amazon Spiderman 5 pack was a hard slap in the face....
Its definitely getting tough with how silly the prices are getting especially when they put shit we want into 2 and 3 packs with shit we don't want.
I never was a completionist, only get the ones I need and not the ones I want
Yah know what’s kinda weird is that none of the new figures that just came out and arrived in my area have not had any of the price increases
That's a good weird man lol
Im fine with the reusing of sculpts of bodies when it comes to comic figures, since most of them have a similar anatomy and form, but the prices are really unjustified
Me too, I cancelled Apocalypse, Scorpion and many others, they are lowering the quality, the paint, releasing years old figures and engineering, re-use, while being a multi billion dollar company they are severely cheaping out and disrespecting the consumers and fans who have been loyal for years. They want to fool a new group and set a new high base line eventually for what they can get away with charging, and are running off all the old collectors and those unwilling to pay. When a lot of the old versions were better and cheaper, selling newer, more expensive, lower quality and less paint versions for people is just an insult for those who know, those who don't know are being tricked and scammed, and those who give in are only helping Hasbro to ruin things for all of us and themselves to.
Everyone should always want the very best for the lowest possible, the highest quality for free being best of all, and what is next to that being the next best for the consumer and enjoyer, and so on, but Hasbro is moving in the direction of giving the least for the most cost to us, so that is not the direction anyone should want. They won't listen until most people stop. We demand better than this after giving the company so much. Do not buy!
Really nice video with a lot of great points. I was really surprised by all the praise for Gorr too, and the Captain America side-by-side was a nice touch
At this point I am starting to wonder if there is better options for Marvel figures. Is SH Figuarts decent or do they have QC issues? I know MAFEX has its issues too right?
If you mainly collect Iron man or Spidey figures, you may want to take a look at ZD toys. Decent quality, generous amount of accessories and alt hands, for a fraction of what you'll pay for marvel legends. Plus their packaging is really good kinda like other premium brands.
Church!!!!! I’ve been cut back on ML… it’s sad to have so much great material misused… shout out to you for point out the obvious, we need more voices like yours gang
I appreciate it thanks 🙏
Legends are 44.99 CAD here in Quebec. We almost hitting 50$ for a standard release now.
The last one I got was Walgreens Jigsaw, and it was close to $30, and wasn't exactly happy with it, still in the box. The last one before that was Wong, and only Wong from that wave. 🤷 I want Ned and Peter, we'll see, but I don't really care for them anymore.
This company has been lazy from the jump, in 2007 they reused the toybiz molds? Like really, reuse the molds from the previous company and give them worse paint jobs? This was for the Spider-Man 3 6 inch figures and they’ve been trying to cut corners since the beginning, trying to have 5 inch figures for the Spider-Man 3 line also. The toybiz move figures were killer, and hasbro robbed us of an epic Spider-Man 3 line. From the start they didn’t care about the buyer, it isn’t gonna change.
Good points
Started streamlining my Marvel Legends starting with the MCU figures then Spidey figures. Only collected X-Men until last year, with so many repaints I already stopped buying Marvel Legends. My last ML figures will be Vulcan anf Siryn and they will be the last. Will only concentrate with the GI Joe Classified line and a little bit of Action Force
Everything you said is 100% factual. I collected Legends for a good 10 years and finally sold my entire collection and stopped collecting new ones this year, once the trends you pointed out got noticeably worse and finally made me say enough is enough. And it got REALLY bad for me, because I, like most collectors, only collected comic based figures, but the comics based figures are the ones that Hasbro takes the most shortcuts with and makes look the cheapest, while jacking the prices on them up higher and higher. I'm glad I got out of collecting Legends when I did.
You know what it is bruh??? They feel like they don’t have to try with marvel legends cus the fan base is so big.. so they put effort into the other lines in order to get a core customer base then they gonna start hitting them with the same b.s
Your right 🔥
I started collecting Marvel Legends in 2007 and the line has been my mainstay for 15 years, and it remains the main display today. That said, due to the very reasons you stated in this video, I've been extremely selective with the line this year. How many? So far in 2022, I've picked up seven ML figures in total. Among these seven are the 20th Cap, Classic Dr. Strange, Baron Zemo and Shocker -- most of them have new, unique sculpts.
From a character perspective, I want some of the new releases such as USAgent, Speedball, Madame Hydra and Siryn, but the reuses and repaints just don't cut it anymore at the high price points.
So, I'm in complete agreement with you on this. I too am done with Marvel Legends.
Yea its the price point now thats killing it
my sentiments exactly. enough with the painted gloves and boots, the price raise already sucks, the uninspired reused body mold plus the bazillion times they keep releasing different versions of the same character is killing my love for this toy line.
I'm in the same state as well because I haven't bought a marvel legends figures since July the last figure that I bought was the black suit spiderman from the sandman wave the only figures I'll probably going to pick up is the iron spider and the first appearance spiderman
I realized this a few years ago. It started slowing down. Then when multiverse started coming out, I pretty much stopped buying legends all together save for very specific character families and even then Im very picky. The bafs can't even bring me back.
They may aswell be sold on the second hand market on a lower price. Hell, I found a Marvel Legend in full packaging sold for 11.00, which should be the price for figures with little to no accessories.
and the sunfire body mold is doo doo.
I’d really like to get those new Disney+ waves but yeah after my galactus gets here I’m kinda done
Damn bro you said a mouth full I've been got rid of my Marvel Legends 2 years ago same figures back to back repaints reissue and thank you to some people still collect this s***
Not to mention the multi figure pack scams, I did not buy Nimrod because it was packed together with two random figure i did not needed, I did not buy Shadowcat... well 1) because it was a lazy repain no updated articulation, no pinless, 2 the head does not look like her in my opinon. 3) because it was a 3 pack. I remember I really wanted a Black Tom to company my Juggernaut... but that figure came out the same time as Major Bludd, and when I compared the two... i just could not justify buying Black Tom. Recently I really wanted to have a Madam Hydra/viper next to Silver Samurai, that figure looks so horrible inhand, I sold it to a customizer friend XD
Yeah man, I've been super pick and a choose when it comes to Legends lately as well. I would rather spend the $ on a different line that has more to offer or get an import or something, i just recently got on the wait list for that Mezco Gig from Hell box set, that set is right up my alley(i was a drummer for a few metal bands) I still haven't opened my series 1 Captain America since I got it back in series 1, any idea how hard it was to not open that? Lol.
Shit, I just slapped down the money for the Mafex Jean Grey. Probably gonna slap down more for the Mafex Storm and Psylocke.
Just like you I only collect VERY specific legends anymore. When toybiz was making them I am pretty sure I had Atleast 85% , now because of all the repaints and price increase I probably buy one figure per every 3 or 4 waves that come out 😩
As for influencers…. You’re the only person that makes me run and buy the stuff you review because your opinion is on point and you’re so creative !
I hear ya bruh, Hasbro known for their cash grabs, that's their M.O. and I predicted McFarlane's going to take over once DC multiverse was introduced & he decided to bring back Spawn action figures. Btw that Mech you needed, Avatar movie AMP mega fig now available for preorder on Amazon Gamestop EE and BBTS. I preordered 2 since you came up with the idea use for EXO suits for GI Joe Classified series. Good stuff bruh 👍
Thanks i gotta check em out hopefully i can get that mech suit idea to work 🔥
I totally agree too. I have no problem paying more for more. They are cutting corners and increasing the price. I'm very selective in what I buy now. More and more I get a figure, and carry it around for a bit, then I end up just putting it back. I've been buying only what I really like. I know this isn't Marvel Legends related, but the one new mold that they did for Transformers ended up as a Walmart exclusive. Not only that, they short packed it...putting only one in each case. Scalpers have been having a field day with that one. And no, I am not paying scalper's prices for that.
Big facts bro! Bonebreaker wave is getting cleared out at Target. 4/7 of the set are down to $12.50, hopefully this trend continues lmao.
I feel the same. I only get characters that I loved back when I use to collect and read comics and main characters
With the price increase Hasbro could at least give more. Different heads, weapons, better effect parts. I realized I kinda stopped buying new legends figures this year. I been buying figures loose for $10-$15 at toy shows.
I gave up Marvel Legends and Black Series, they seems to be made of cheaper plastic and don't come with much, Other lines seem to have more bang for the buck
I’ve been collecting for 18 years now. Legends have been my bread and butter. Over the last 3 years the lack of accessories and now this price hike has killed the line from me. I can afford the line but the value just isn’t there. When I can purchase a mythic legion/cosmic legion or a Action Force for the same price with plentiful accessories and a quality product. I would rather purchase custom head sculpts and parts for the figures I already own. Support small businesses because we know big businesses don’t care about the consumer.
I have cancelled more Marvel Legends orders than ever lately. I used to buy 2 of each, one to open and let my kid play with and one to open and display or keep MOC. Now, if I buy, I get just one….and I am only buying what I LOVE, not what seems cool. Reuse is ok, but not when you aren’t getting what you pay for…the $22 to $24 to $27 to $30 to $35 price increase…..nope
I have sold pretty much all of my Marvel Legends years ago. It was in 2018. A big reason why is because of the repaints too. I have recently bought some movie ones because they look good and the design are bland enough that with some small changes they would not look out of place with GI Joe Classified, which is my brand.
Since I got back into collecting this year, I have bought some Legends, it's a lot less than what I used to buy, and I have no interest trying to assemble a major ML collection. Most of the toys they make nowadays are very bland looking, they lack exciting features, and as you mentionned, when guys like Valaverse make stuff that is that awesome, I just don't care anymore for Legends for the most part.
So I am pretty much on the same boat as you are.
That is probably the biggest issue I’ve had. How did toybiz do dioramas, accessories figure and a comic without charging an arm and a leg? Like does it cost hasbro a lot or are they just being greedy
Only time I buy Marvel Legends is if it's on clearance, but since their distribution sucks you rarely see them at all... With all the reuse the least they could do is make them cheaper.
I'm on the verge of quitting Marvel Legends as well. Price increase and the amount of repaints is not worth it.
Switching it up to McFarlane and Valaverse for more bang for the buck.
I stopped buying Marvel Legends altogether. The prices in Canada go for $40 a figure! Plus the constant reuse and repaints turns me off completely.
the good marvel legends are heading to exclusive packs hard to get. while the retail get the crappy ones..
I'm already selective.
Was just talking about how great the toybiz line was and how original, then came across this, I agree with you and like the little acknowledgment of Mcfarlane original sculpts Atleast
Yeah I don't see the line less than too much longer either but they do something about the boxes and the price and the repaint bull crap good video
I pretty much only get what I really like, and it’s not much, waiting for figures like Sabertooth TAS figure, A Zombie Wolverine, a new werewolf by night, a new blob and new Daken
My pre order came in for Toad in Canada its 45 plus tax I said thanks all pass on that. Definitely getting to the point where I buy one ML every 5 waves. Awesome video as usual
Thanks 🙏 and yea i agree in there every 10 waves i ll get 1 😂
I mostly agree. There have always been those stand out legends, ones with amazing head sculpts or just a new body that fits well. You can look at a shelf and tell which are "new" and which are repaints, with the price going up it increases that quality gap, the repaints just don't look good at a price above $19.99.
Last legend I bought was the 80th anniversary Captain America and I dont have any I plan to pick up ATM. Basically just looking for upgrades in my Marvel vs Capcom collection at this point.
I'm more tempted by Power Ranger releases these days, GI Joe has almost gotten me to buy some too lol.
What killed it for me was the price, 30 for a spiderman is insano. Reuse doesn’t really make me upset, as a MOTU collector, it’s just par for the course for the same body over and over again. But hasbro reuse is lazy
I concur sir..and they jacked up the price.....wow..Awesome VID man
Bro where did you get that RC tank from?👍🏼🔥
I gor vids up on my channel
Toybiz ML's were phenomenal and affordable, every Marvel legend I see now has no detail or shading.
Ahhh yes the good ol toybiz days
@@ArticulatedNinja Back when even the accessories had detail to them, hell the hand guns compared to what you get today is a joke
5:45 and further, so sad , but that HISS tank is going to be 🔥, but with even the place you work, and I work. The skill is dumbed down so there is no thought process so it brings stress to the employees. It's not just at Hasbro. And CEO's are the profit suckers of the world . And design and new product will always loss. But you also have to look at the amount of figures that are being made per year. Going from 20 "new" figures back in 1999, to now and we are getting 60 "new" figures .