I honestly agree with your opinion regarding cross training in both bjj/judo and the importance of maintaining their styles independently. If anything, it helps cultivate you as person and helps you build a better well rounded perspective in grappling martial arts overall. I also feel that it is important to train the throw game as it is the ground game, you honestly cant have on without the other.
I wonder how much judo would be needed for karate? Having in mind in some styles you are allowed to do some judo style throws... I bet judo yellow/orange belt would be a good starting point...
Amazing content as always, OG ! I know this is one of the old video of yours but I was just watching it earlier for guidance. Now - I could probably guess your respond to this question, but perhaps you may have a preference for a good reason ( Which is what I am looking forward to hear ) Would you prefer doing Judo and BJJ on the same day or spread them across the week? Long story short - My school offers BJJ 4 times a week and Judo 2 times a week, hence we can either train 4 times a week or 2 times a week by doing a "double" (BJJ and Judo back to back) I had done experiment doing both option but couldn't decide which one it would be better: While doing 2 days of "double", I find it more challeging (Especially mentally), because that is a 3-hour training session with 2 half an hour sparing at the end of EACH class ( Randori Newaza for BJJ and Randori Tachiwaza for Judo, obviosly ) - However, I found myself more "warmed up" for Judo and ready to do Uchikomi, thanks to the BJJ class right before. 4 days of single class are more relaxing as it is simply 1 class per day and theortically sound better because we may focus on one skill set per day. Thank you for taking the time to view my (Kinda long) question !
Good video. Funny you mention about how square Judo is compared to BJJ and how can you be put off by this. To me, happend to oposite way, ive done Karate want to learn grappling and i was a little put off because the BJJ club i visited was too relax, too free spirted, with music, etc. lol and left with the feeling that this people werent taking seriously their martial arts training lol later i understood why this happend and how serious BJJ people really is.
@@OGFITNESS your content la awesome You inspred me many times judo is boy good as is in other contries, si they can hurt You do much Manu times but all your advices were a great hepl yo me, thanks. Grettings from bolivia.
I can agree but also disagree all my favorite BJJ players have strong judo backgrounds Ray Stevens, flavio Canta, Travis Stevens, ffion davis, Brett Johns. Id say go all the way with judo I've been to ray stevens seminars where he's said its how to build a complete grappling game.
I binge your videos man You have great energy and your enthusiasm into combat is motivation as f##k Personally I'm self motivated, but I would lie if I said listening to guys like yourself and Ramsay don't make me want to go out and train more!
I like judo instead of BJJ during quarantine because less rolling and fewer classes. Also I understand what you are saying about more control in judo classes but judo is like BJJ if you go to multiple schools you might find one that is more chill. I tried one judo school where the instructor was impossible because you had to bow 10 times to the mat, 10 times to the mosquito, pat your tummy after situps, bow to the ceiling fan. wtaf. Obviously i'm exaggerating but what the hell. You had to put a mat on the mats, you had to bow as entering the mini mat, bow when exiting, bow on introduction and exit to each five minute training partner. However, my current school has like a tiny bit more bowing than we had at BJJ. People barely bow to the mat to be honest. I am more traditional than them sometimes. BJJ schools also vary, some of them have ridiculous traditions. I went to one school where the kids would yell "jiu jitsu" after doing each exercise. what the hell. Some of the traditions are weird but cool. But anyway the point is schools vary.
You said in a different video sport Judo would work for self defense if you adapt. But you didn't address the fact that self defense Judo has some awesome moves that pertain to self defense an not a judo tournament an if you take sport Judo you are missing those awesome self defense moves in your Arsenal. I'd appreciate your feedback. Awesome page by the way very informative.
Hi man!!, I am new here and I recently found a BJJ and Judo dojo at the same place, but I want to focus most on Judo, makes Judo my base, I want to know your opinion if I should do crosstraining (maybe 2 day of bjj at week) or choose Judo first, and what time i need it to perform my newaza. Thanks for your work man, seriously 👐😁
hmm... thats an interesting question, it would then resemble greco roman wrestling a bit more but with all the judo techniques. I think so, Grappling is grappling and as such i think if would open up the practionner's mind and force them to adapt their judo. And imo its always a good thing to be force to be more creative.
@@OGFITNESS it would resemble greco roman, however, judo has submissions, so how about no-gi judo with extended time for ne waza, say 15 seconds before the ref stands you up?
is it worth doing an ippon deserving throw in a bjj competition? it wouldnt give more points, they might think you are an asshole if they fall flat on their back, maybe the impact gives you an opening for your submission unless its one of those throws that throw far away(like a tomoe nage)
@@OGFITNESS i dont know if you got to make the video and i missed it, but i was watching this video sgain and saw the comment and got reminded about it, is it out yet? Cos in going to try judo soon, a gym has just open
@@gingercore69 sorry i havent gotten to it yet, but let me answer it here for ya, i once got thrown in a bjj comp, years before taking up judo, landed hard on my back, cracked a rib, dude fell into half guard, passed my guard, and i think he subbed me. I was told he was a judo guy b4 the match, and even then, didn't see it coming. All is fair in war, in competition if youre allowed to throw and your opponent cant defend it thats his pb. I never thought of on opponent as an asshole for that, it inspired me even more to learn Judo, later on as a yellow/orange belt in judo i met him again and we sparred in Judo, he wasnt able to throw me. Judo brings alot to the table for bjj, and vice versa
is it normal to get a green belt in 11months? asking because I'm up for promotion in august. Mind you, I'm a blue belt in Bjj, so that might have something to do with it.
Agree, now if only i can keep my body together until i can afford cutting edge medical care to rehab my injuries and for the science of lifespan and healthspan to become advance enough, one of my dreams/fantasy is to live till 200 strong.
I have a friend who lives in Quabec he studies Judo and Sambo he also told me they added a BJJ class not long ago and the Judo has been helping him out.
Blue belt in BJJ is good enough for most. Purple belt in BJJ is hard to get. They say a BJJ purple belt can start teaching and knows most the stuff a black belt knows. Blue belt you will have the fundamentals down. Purple belt you will be very well rounded and very technical. Getting a purple belt in BJJ is like getting nominated for black belt. Going from blue to purple is where people struggle the most.
How do you feel judo and bjj compare according to belts? Is a black belt judo players knowledge of judo the equivalent of a purple belts knowledge of bjj?
I don't understand the comparison your making. Why would you compare a black belt to a purple? To answer the question, in general, the only 2 styles that I take the black belt seriously is Judo and BJJ. Are there mcdojos in either? Yes. But in general, the black belts in both are very knowledgeable in their respective styles.
I think a judo black belt is equivalent to a bjj blue belt in ground fighting, and a bjj black belt is probably equivalent to a judo green belt in takedowns
I am 25 and planning to start judo. I currently train bjj, do you think alternating 3 months bjj 1 month judo is a good idea? I am not a competitor, i train for self defense and i'm enjoying the sport
@@OGFITNESS yep that's exactly what i'm thinking, and also keeps the mind fresh with doing different activities with different people. Do you think it's enough judo to help my standup game in jiu jitsu? I'm a guard puller and am really afraid of doing standup especially since i have no experience in it
@@ScopeFater if u do judo for only 1 month then no, but if you rotate this way regularly then over time youll gain confidence standing up. If possible You can always try to intergrate judo once or twice a week while ur doing bjj and that would be even better. But if money and time is an issue then rotating is a pretty smart idea too.
I honestly agree with your opinion regarding cross training in both bjj/judo and the importance of maintaining their styles independently. If anything, it helps cultivate you as person and helps you build a better well rounded perspective in grappling martial arts overall. I also feel that it is important to train the throw game as it is the ground game, you honestly cant have on without the other.
I wonder how much judo would be needed for karate? Having in mind in some styles you are allowed to do some judo style throws... I bet judo yellow/orange belt would be a good starting point...
Love the video and you have a great point, I started off in Judo before I got in BJJ and that helped me out a lot.
Thx brother! My goal is double black in this lifetime. In judo first then bjj later
Amazing content as always, OG !
I know this is one of the old video of yours but I was just watching it earlier for guidance.
Now - I could probably guess your respond to this question, but perhaps you may have a preference for a good reason
( Which is what I am looking forward to hear )
Would you prefer doing Judo and BJJ on the same day or spread them across the week?
Long story short - My school offers BJJ 4 times a week and Judo 2 times a week, hence we can either train 4 times a week or 2 times a week by doing a "double" (BJJ and Judo back to back)
I had done experiment doing both option but couldn't decide which one it would be better:
While doing 2 days of "double", I find it more challeging (Especially mentally), because that is a 3-hour training session with 2 half an hour sparing at the end of EACH class ( Randori Newaza for BJJ and Randori Tachiwaza for Judo, obviosly ) - However, I found myself more "warmed up" for Judo and ready to do Uchikomi, thanks to the BJJ class right before.
4 days of single class are more relaxing as it is simply 1 class per day and theortically sound better because we may focus on one skill set per day.
Thank you for taking the time to view my (Kinda long) question !
I’m definitely going to add judo to my BJJ once this quarantine is over!
Love your videos!
Thx man!!! Appreciate the support brother!
O.G. FITNESS I’m currently a white belt in both and I love them equally. I’m on track to becoming black belt in both.
Wild that your videos address such a huge number of questions I have. Uncanny! Much appreciated.
Glad it helps, send me your questions on IG or email of you need something answered faster. I'll do my best to answer you asap.
Good video. Funny you mention about how square Judo is compared to BJJ and how can you be put off by this. To me, happend to oposite way, ive done Karate want to learn grappling and i was a little put off because the BJJ club i visited was too relax, too free spirted, with music, etc. lol and left with the feeling that this people werent taking seriously their martial arts training lol later i understood why this happend and how serious BJJ people really is.
As a judoca and a bjj practicioner i agree in all he says, judo is a great adittion to your bjj many times a good trow can be the difference.
thx for the support brother!
@@OGFITNESS your content la awesome You inspred me many times judo is boy good as is in other contries, si they can hurt You do much Manu times but all your advices were a great hepl yo me, thanks. Grettings from bolivia.
I can agree but also disagree all my favorite BJJ players have strong judo backgrounds Ray Stevens, flavio Canta, Travis Stevens, ffion davis, Brett Johns. Id say go all the way with judo I've been to ray stevens seminars where he's said its how to build a complete grappling game.
I think the problem with judo is the lack of leg grabs and shido rules on defensive judo.
Definitely takes away from the sport
I binge your videos man
You have great energy and your enthusiasm into combat is motivation as f##k
Personally I'm self motivated, but I would lie if I said listening to guys like yourself and Ramsay don't make me want to go out and train more!
The big leagues you mean. Great video man.🤘
Voila! Thx
i think more than belts it is concepts and movement and control skills like kazushi which are important.
I like judo instead of BJJ during quarantine because less rolling and fewer classes. Also I understand what you are saying about more control in judo classes but judo is like BJJ if you go to multiple schools you might find one that is more chill. I tried one judo school where the instructor was impossible because you had to bow 10 times to the mat, 10 times to the mosquito, pat your tummy after situps, bow to the ceiling fan. wtaf. Obviously i'm exaggerating but what the hell. You had to put a mat on the mats, you had to bow as entering the mini mat, bow when exiting, bow on introduction and exit to each five minute training partner. However, my current school has like a tiny bit more bowing than we had at BJJ. People barely bow to the mat to be honest. I am more traditional than them sometimes. BJJ schools also vary, some of them have ridiculous traditions. I went to one school where the kids would yell "jiu jitsu" after doing each exercise. what the hell. Some of the traditions are weird but cool. But anyway the point is schools vary.
You said in a different video sport Judo would work for self defense if you adapt. But you didn't address the fact that self defense Judo has some awesome moves that pertain to self defense an not a judo tournament an if you take sport Judo you are missing those awesome self defense moves in your Arsenal. I'd appreciate your feedback. Awesome page by the way very informative.
U might as well get ur black. Belt in judo. You only need to do it once or twice a week for like 7 years.
Hi man!!, I am new here and I recently found a BJJ and Judo dojo at the same place, but I want to focus most on Judo, makes Judo my base, I want to know your opinion if I should do crosstraining (maybe 2 day of bjj at week) or choose Judo first, and what time i need it to perform my newaza. Thanks for your work man, seriously 👐😁
Do you think that judo would benefit from a no-gi version? Like 10th Planet did for BJJ.
hmm... thats an interesting question, it would then resemble greco roman wrestling a bit more but with all the judo techniques. I think so, Grappling is grappling and as such i think if would open up the practionner's mind and force them to adapt their judo. And imo its always a good thing to be force to be more creative.
@@OGFITNESS Thank you!
@@OGFITNESS it would resemble greco roman, however, judo has submissions, so how about no-gi judo with extended time for ne waza, say 15 seconds before the ref stands you up?
Hell Yes!!! The no gi version should allow wrestling takedowns too
@@treroney4720 I'm for that!
subbed man. Hope you get two blackbelts in your lifetime.
Thank you brother! I'll do my best, osu!
When I was in Thailand, I met a guy that said blue belt in bjj was enough for him.
everyone is different, heck im blue, but been blue for a very long time lol
is it worth doing an ippon deserving throw in a bjj competition? it wouldnt give more points, they might think you are an asshole if they fall flat on their back, maybe the impact gives you an opening for your submission unless its one of those throws that throw far away(like a tomoe nage)
I actually have a great story for that. Will make video for ya. Osu!
@@OGFITNESS nice! I hope to watch that soon
@@OGFITNESS i dont know if you got to make the video and i missed it, but i was watching this video sgain and saw the comment and got reminded about it, is it out yet? Cos in going to try judo soon, a gym has just open
@@gingercore69 sorry i havent gotten to it yet, but let me answer it here for ya, i once got thrown in a bjj comp, years before taking up judo, landed hard on my back, cracked a rib, dude fell into half guard, passed my guard, and i think he subbed me.
I was told he was a judo guy b4 the match, and even then, didn't see it coming. All is fair in war, in competition if youre allowed to throw and your opponent cant defend it thats his pb. I never thought of on opponent as an asshole for that, it inspired me even more to learn Judo, later on as a yellow/orange belt in judo i met him again and we sparred in Judo, he wasnt able to throw me. Judo brings alot to the table for bjj, and vice versa
is it normal to get a green belt in 11months? asking because I'm up for promotion in august. Mind you, I'm a blue belt in Bjj, so that might have something to do with it.
Wisdom and maturity comes with age.
Agree, now if only i can keep my body together until i can afford cutting edge medical care to rehab my injuries and for the science of lifespan and healthspan to become advance enough, one of my dreams/fantasy is to live till 200 strong.
Im from Montreal and studying bjj. Would you recommend a judo school.
I have a friend who lives in Quabec he studies Judo and Sambo he also told me they added a BJJ class not long ago and the Judo has been helping him out.
What about the other way? How much BJJ does a Judo guy need? Blue Belt, Purple Belt?
Blue belt in BJJ is good enough for most. Purple belt in BJJ is hard to get. They say a BJJ purple belt can start teaching and knows most the stuff a black belt knows. Blue belt you will have the fundamentals down. Purple belt you will be very well rounded and very technical. Getting a purple belt in BJJ is like getting nominated for black belt. Going from blue to purple is where people struggle the most.
How do you feel judo and bjj compare according to belts? Is a black belt judo players knowledge of judo the equivalent of a purple belts knowledge of bjj?
I don't understand the comparison your making. Why would you compare a black belt to a purple?
To answer the question, in general, the only 2 styles that I take the black belt seriously is Judo and BJJ.
Are there mcdojos in either? Yes. But in general, the black belts in both are very knowledgeable in their respective styles.
I think a judo black belt is equivalent to a bjj blue belt in ground fighting, and a bjj black belt is probably equivalent to a judo green belt in takedowns
I am 25 and planning to start judo. I currently train bjj, do you think alternating 3 months bjj 1 month judo is a good idea?
I am not a competitor, i train for self defense and i'm enjoying the sport
That wouldnt be bad at all, gives your body a break from the movement patterns of bjj and ull learn new ones from Judo.
@@OGFITNESS yep that's exactly what i'm thinking, and also keeps the mind fresh with doing different activities with different people.
Do you think it's enough judo to help my standup game in jiu jitsu? I'm a guard puller and am really afraid of doing standup especially since i have no experience in it
@@ScopeFater if u do judo for only 1 month then no, but if you rotate this way regularly then over time youll gain confidence standing up.
If possible You can always try to intergrate judo once or twice a week while ur doing bjj and that would be even better. But if money and time is an issue then rotating is a pretty smart idea too.
@@OGFITNESS yeah the plan was to keep rotating between them. thanks for your replies man, keep up the great content!
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Nice! Thanks man!
You don't do judo for bjj, you do bjj for judo.
How far should Judo players go in BJJ? Just for the masses.
Definitely at least purple. I would recommend mastery tho