It has some good details, but the actual visuals are on parr with the shitty 90s cgi of the special editions... (also some of cinematography is really jarring next to the rest of the film)
A bit different in Legends; Tenn Graneet, the master chief gunnery officer of the Death Star, felt extremely guilty over the destruction of Alderaan, and kept repeating "standby" over the intercom, hoping for something to happen that would prevent him from pulling the trigger and killing so many people yet again.
And this is why I love this fandom, look at what people make. Their own version of the special editions, a restoration of the 1977 theatrical cut and a despecialised edition, this is passion, how people take the time to make this.
@raven4k998 the planet it is orbiting is a gas giant. Due to its size and heavy atmosphere, it is highly likely a single beam from the Death Star isn't enough to destory it. Even if it was, the Death Star is also next to it. So if they tried blowing up the planet and were successful and the resulting explosion could destroy the moons, then the Death Star is also getting destroyed since it is also nearby.
@@Terranhawk but your not thinking 4th dimensionally what would happen to a gas giant hit by the death star beam at full power would the moon survive it is all that matters not would the gas giant survive it because you seen what it does at low power to a planet so if what it does to a gas giant kills the moon that's good enough for scaring people into submission in gene Roddenberry's Andromeda a nova bomb will blow up a star or planet 40 will temporarily turn a black hole into a white hole so what would the death star beam do to a gas giant it may blow it up it might punch right through and hit the moon destroying the moon like the gas giant wasn't even there who knows because they didn't try it
Nope, hate it. Should be deleted and he should be banned from the internet, never to return. It's terrible. I disagree. I don't like it. It's no good. Horrible. I'm nauseated.
I love Adywan's version, but the one attention to detail I especially enjoy (and one I feel was absolutely necessary) is the addition of Yavin in the background.
A final shot of Tarkin is more intense to me than seeing the Death Star begin to fire its lasers, Tarkin is one of the saga's primary antagonists, seeing his steely gaze before his imminent demise is great because we are left to wonder what his last thoughts are. Is he patiently waiting for the Rebel base's destruction? Is he having a brief moment of doubt? Is he excited? Apprehensive? Afraid? It seems an injustice that we are denied our last glimpse into his character.
I think both are good (on top of what you said, I think that the death star powering up shots really add some tension when viewed after the destruction of alderan)... maybe if should have started to fire up in the background of the ships flying away?
he's a psychopath. after Alderan, he lost any connection to empathy/sympathy for human beings. he's a tool in Palpatine's hands. a person who valued environment/system over life.
Watching these scenes back again, I realize I forgot just how professional Vader was in his first appearance. No backstory beyond "He was a Jedi until he turned evil" in a time so early Darth was still his first name. And yet he is a soldier through and through, something that stayed pretty consistent as his character was expanded over the years.
Your perspective will change a lot when you think of it as a movie called "Star Wars". No Episodes or other films. - Big Boss is Grand Moff Tarkin, not Vader. - Vader supposed to be Tarkin's henchman. Best soilder/commando Tarkin have. Not 2nd in command of Galactic Empire. This is why some random officer mock Vader. And Vader took order from Tarkin to stop choking him. Compare to the sequel, his rank is more like Capt. Phasma. Not Gen.Hux or Kylo Ren. Story is extremely goofy too. Whole story can be boiled down to some random unimportant guy saw a beautiful princess asked for help. Got horny. Go on an adventure to help her and succeed. And become famous. That's all Star Wars story. Which is quite similar to Mario story.
I love Adywan's edit overall, but there are two changes I find difficult to accept. The C-3PO reaction shot to "I lost R2" as well as the final shot of Tarkin before the Death Star blows. I miss those.
@@omarbaba9892 Yeah, well the Theatrical Release doesn’t exactly make that clear. If this was the first Star Wars thing you saw and you weren’t a kid or something you’d be like: Wait, six fighters took out almost twenty elite fighters? No mention of those first guys being from Vader’s own squadron, no mention of Tarkin blocking Vader’s order to get the crews to their fighters as he feels confident in the station’s defensive batteries, no nothing. You probably would’ve thought only his two wingmen were guys worth talking about. If you didn’t read the Novelization back then, you wouldn’t know this stuff. I’m speaking from the standpoint of someone who’s new to Star Wars. If I was new, I would likely be thinking this.
Not a fan of the Adywan TIE fighter sequence but I do like some of his more subtle edits, like removing matte lines in some model shots, removing the jumpcuts in the film whenever R2 would switch from bipedal to rolling mode, making Luke stand still when he opens and closes that super-fast door in the Death Star control room. And last but not least... GREEDO NEVER SHOOTS AT HAN, the way it was meant to be.
He basically did a George Lucas and people are going gaga over it...ironic, really. I dislike the changes, they feel even more out of place than the GL's special editions.
Adywan's extra dogfight sequence feels like it just has too long without dialogue. This scene has a lot of dialogue throughout and that empty space just feels out of place. It's still a badass edit nonetheless.
Not at all. Do you think fighters have the luxury of chatting to each other in the heat of an intense battle? Adywan gives the film what it so desperately deserves. The original never feels threatening in a realistic sense. In fact, he doesn't give it enough. Hopefully when he polishes up ANHR he'll tweak some things that still need improving. I respect what should be kept from the original version, but not the action sequences. CGI should be used sparingly, which is rare these days of course, but in this case it's as justified as the effects for Jurassic Park. If that was done in stop motion (almost was) & then a fan had created an improved CGI version, the purists would still go for the original worse effects simply for the sake of it...
why can't the death star blow up the planet instead of orbiting it to reach the moon it would be much quicker and make it look more terrifying you cannot hide from the emperor kids🫵✊✊
@@raven4k998 The lore reason not given in the movie is that the first death star needed a certain time to recharge between shots, depending on the power output. Blowing up an entire planet required a full day to recharge, if I remember correctly.
The Death Star can't destroy Yavin itself for two reasons: 1 - The superlaser takes 24 hours to recharge after a complete blast. Even if they could clear Yavin out of the way, that gives the rebels time to evacuate Yavin IV. 2 - Yavin is a gas giant. The chemical reaction caused by the superlaser igniting it would produce a stellar body on par with a supernova, which even the Death Star couldn't withstand. Destroying a gas giant would destroy the station, and even a hit and run would leave no time for a jump to hyperspace. It would be suicide.
@@tsukopara2054 your not thinking 3 dimensionally about the damage if they blew up Yavin going what would that blast do to Yavin moon wouldn't that take the moon out? think about it a Moon from a planet sized explosion unlike the death star which has shields the moon does not wouldn't the explosion and shock wave take it down?
Also love Adywan's version, but I agree -- some of his recolor choices aren't to my taste. He should have kept the X-Wings' engine glow magenta instead of the "corrected" red his version has.
I love Puggo's because it doesn't try to hide what it is. It's gritty, authentic, scratched, light damaged, worn, like the galaxy we all came to know and love. Yes, the roll of film is over 40 years old, but its message, its sense of rebellious adventure, its beauty, is timeless. It's the only version I watch now. And I'm one of the few who has all three of Puggo's original trilogy scans.
Puggo just gives it so much more a "nostalgic" vibe tbh. Don't get me wrong; I enjoyed the crisp clean remasterings of the others. But, I'd definitely be happy to keep a copy of this render just as a momento for my childhood days of Star Wars fandom. =)
@@coinerman9946 Agreed. I downloaded them off the Internet archive a few years back when all 3 were still available. Glad I did too. All are in their original resolutions so they're small but they're crisp for scans. The sound also is their original, it hasn't been re-recorded or anything so each track in the original edit is the same, no compromises.
at 0:13, That hologram effect is so cool! But I think it's much better for the Adywan version to retain the death star orbiting the Yavin the get to the Yavin 4 instead zoom in onto it's top hemisphere.
It makes more sense that they'd be watching the battle, and the audience gets visual updates of the Death Star approach from the Tarkin shots, as well as audio from the Rebel base PA system. having them stare at it on the display as well was always kind of redundant.
That very last shot at 13:20 the falcon is flying at a 45° angle and it has bothered me since I first saw this movie as a kid - I was hoping someone would fix it!!!
I like that. It makes it seem as if the Death Star firing is what caused it to explode. Not: *Nothing going on.... BOOM!* It kinda reminded me of how Malevolence was ravaged. After the Y-Wings torpedoes the shit out of one of the ion cannons, Malevolence still tried to fire. But when it did, instead of releasing an ion blast, the ignition of the ion cannon destroyed it.
@@maxstirnersego the guy in charge of pulling the lever to fire had a huge amount of guilt and self hatred for blowing up alderaan, so he said "standby" a few times hoping something bad would happen to the death star
I am an Orthodox Original Trilogist, Reformation 1981, but man... I would not ever mind seeing the Death Star begin to fire like that. What an exciting detail.
So... something just occurred to me. Just the X-wing lasers were able to do massive damage to the surface of the Death Star, so it clearly wasn't shielded. Did nobody think to just go over and SHOOT THE SUPERLASER DISH?!
Some canon books and etc say the rest of Gold squad was tasked to take out the dish if the trench run didnt work. We only see one Y-wing left flying away so we can guess how that plan went.
In Legends, Blue and Green Squadrons did indeed attack the superlaser dish in an effort to damage it to the point that the _Death Star_ couldn’t fire, or at the very least draw attention away from Red and Gold Squadrons. From my understanding, Blue and Green Squadrons didn’t suffer as many casualties.
@@jaziferret1138 I suppose the Imperials expected an attack on a such an onvious (and large) target so it was heavily defended, whilst they probably didn't anticipate the Rebels having discovered the exhaust port (maybe they didn't know themselves) or underestimated the danger
You know blends EVEN BETTER to Rogue One in the Revisited version? After Vader captures Leia and returns to the Death Star, when his star destroyer is approaching the Death Star, the Death Star is orbiting a planet very much like Skairf, where Rogue One ends. And it makes perfect sense considering that's the last place the Death Star was at the end of Rogue One, so Vader simply went back there. I truly wonder if John Knoll and/or Gareth Edwards saw Revisited and liked that scene enough to fit Rogue One to it. After all Skarif could have looked very different in Rogue One but didn't.
My brother even tought the shot of the ton of TIE Fighters scrambling from the gate station hangars into the battle was a nod to Adiwan's quite similar shot
Holy shit! I loved the bit at the end when you see the Death star lasers about to fire!! that was strangely awesome! made the scene more intense in my opinion!
It also makes a bit more sense than the original. With the laser firing, you would have no idea whether Luke truly succeeded or not. In the original, you pretty much know it's about to blow.
Exactly, with less tension. With Darth Vader distracting Luke long enough for the Death Star to power up the laser, yet the torpedo hit the sweet spot just in time.
The 2011 Special Edition is really the Adywan but with Puggo Grande and it's pretty much a perfect blend. I do wish that they didn't add the TIE sequence from Adywan, since they could've easily made it look better. Also, the little extras from Adywan like Yavin Prime and the rest of the starfighters battling in the background, along with the extra X-Wings in the trench makes the battle more consistent lore and timeline-wise. Also, that shot of the Death Star blowing up as it was about to fire reminds me of the stakes in such a chilling way and it's so cool! Nevertheless, this iconic battle and iconic effects will never get old!
The "purist" version of Adywan's edit (which leaves the movie relatively untouched in regards to big changes, i.e., doesn't have things such as the extended battle sequence with the imperial march seen in this video) is the definitive edition of the film for me. While I respect and understand the need to preserve the original movie and have it as an available option to watch, I couldn't for the life of me watch the movie again without the small tweaks and effects that Adywan adds and that actually makes sense.
I agree. Adywan may have even been more of a closet EU fan than originally thought. But there's nothing wrong with that. Nothings ever gonna be perfect. But on topic, the improvements from a logical perspective definitely work for sure. He added a strain of tension when the additional Ties and the Imperial Anthem played. Even in the background having some Y-Wings take down some fighters so they don't always look like they're just cannon fodder makes even the small things stand out.
The thing I LOVE about Adywan's version is the dogfight in the background. It's kinda stupid that they just sent out 6 beginning fighters hoping it would help. The increased number of fighters really hypes up the scene and shows where all the other X-Wings went. Poor CGI though on the fighters, but hey, it's a fan edit, they didn't STUDY their lives for this.
2:59 all those extra fighters feels right because it reminds of all those hours playing Rogue Squadron. Still think all the model work looks better than the CGI models, even with all the graphical glitches on the engine lights The 3D model of the planet + Deathstar ala Return of the Jedi was neat but you could tell he had to change a bunch of scenes to avoid showing the table.
The Y Wings are bombers which means they slower. So they're more easy pickings for the Tie-Fighters (but they can do more damage than the X-Wings against the towers). Besides, they're attacking one of the most heavily fortified space stations in the entire galaxy so casualties are bound to be high.
Would have liked to have seen what that Y-wing was doing for 5 minutes or 10 minutes, since it wasn't in the trench. Like bombing runs on the tower or as someone said, the dish. Maybe bombing a fighter bay before some got off.
I enjoyed the additional starfighters in the approach, the extra scene and the adjustment to the Death Star's explosion. Nixed the halo (I'm not opposed to it but it would've made more sense along the thinner midsection) and added the charging sequence to illustrate better how close it was.
in those times the effects were awesome but now it seems outdated, thats why some ppl will say adywan is better, the reason why movies like godfather, cytizen kane,casablanca can still be great is cause they didnt need special effects, all are stories of any ppl, not a space war, even 2001 space odyssey seems outdated in some parts
I love the added detail of the Death Star actually powering up to fire moments before exploding in Adywan's version of the scene. It makes the tension much higher.
Adywan is a masterpiece. That one actually looks like a full three squadron attack getting shot at. The additional shot of the Tie fighter counter attack was brilliant. You actually get a sense of dread when they all start intermixing it with the Rebel Squadrons. And they do the Tie Fighters justice as they appear as a potent threat. All it needed was the audio clip of Luke crying for Biggs after he got blasted by Vader.
1. Adywan (fantastic dogfight scene, I wish there was a way to add some dialogue though) 2. 2011 SEB (Overall a big improvement on some of the previous remasters) 3. Harmy's (The original. Enough said) 4. The toilet fire on the top right
Adywan version is nice, but it feels like a 'fan-edit'(which it is) instead of how Star Wars is meant to watched to newcomers. The newly added dog-fightings ruins the pacing, and there's no dialogue to justify it. Especially it drastically reduces the impact of Imperial March from TESB. Not to mention, CGI doesn't match to other special effects. The hologram and the prequelesque technology are extremely video gamy. The ending feels over the top and poor CGI didn't helped. Minor fixes are really awesome. Like laser color correction is cool, the continuity fix including X-Wing in the trench and the red planet in the background is great. The dogfight in the background adds the intensity. Luke shouting Biggs in his death scene, focusing on Leia's face in Yavin IV, and I even liked the slight additional turret shot. This edit should have remain as minor fix-edit. It seems like he was too overzealous at adding new shit. I would watch it for repetitive viewings, I wouldn't show it to first timers.
To be honest the CGI is much better than some of the crap that Lucas added officially, so that doesn't bother me, but I agree the extended dogfight didn't work without dialogue, plus the pilots don't look stressed from all the tie-fighters because of the footage he's used.
the way the death star's lasers are already firing up when it explodes in the Adywan Revisited is so fucking cool and the best addition from that version
What I love about the Adywan edition is how certain scenes are slightly rearranged. It really creates a different dynamic, adding more energy to the scene and modernising the editing style. It's not overly flashy or anything like the special edition. It's what the special edition should have been.
One thing I adore about Adywan’s version is how he fixed the continuity of the final trench run, and just by adding a third x wing in the background to show the two swerving ones were Red 2 and 3
Something i will give the Adywan version credit for is we actually get a spit second shot of Porkins X Wing being grazed by a laser before he says "Ive got a problem here." In the original film you dont fully know what hes talking about, you have to just assume he got hit my ground fire but its not super clear.
The official blu-ray is so fucking dark. Call me a hipster, but I LOVE the look of the 16mm print of Puggo Grande. I'm usually a "I want to watch my favorite movies in the best possible presentation" kinda guy. But the gauzy authenticity of the 16mm prints just give the films such a sense of texture and life. It makes you appreciate the tactile " they did it all for real" reality of the films all the more.
Not sure about the added dogfight from Ady...but I gotta say that last second explosion where you can see the superlaser seconds away from firing definitely ups the tension.
The reason this whole scene worked so well is that we gave a darn about what happened to the pilots. They were afraid and acting on training and every time one is lost we have to experience the fear and witness the loss. It was a brilliant piece of directing. In the force awakens and rogue one we don't care what happens in the battles and the body count because we don't have to experience the battle in the cockpit along side the pilots. It's sloppy.
My first introduction to Star Wars may have been Shadows of the Empire on N64, and my first cinematic experience may have been the Prequel Trilogy but I was fortunate to watch the 1st edition home video release of "A New Hope" through my local public library.
Adywan is a huge improvement as well as the Death Star nearly firing, but we need a final shot of Tarkin so that way we feel justice. Due to him being the main antagonist of the film and him being so despicable, we need a final shot with him thinking that he’s got everything in the bag, and then it blows up in his face
I always loved how Tarkin looks in this sequence. You can tell how cocky he is, how stoic he's trying to remain. In his mind, hes Invincible right now. Just toying with the rebels, about to blow up an entire planet. However, I feel like you can tell just by his silence and expression that deep down, there's that nagging feeling in his mind that the rebels fighting just outside could actually win. That he very might just lose his life in this moment... And oh how he should have listened to that gut feeling...
Eh, the added dogfight scene is wierd and the new graphics at the rebel base look bad and don't give as much information as the much simpler one from the original.
The added dogfighting battle fixes a plot hole when Vader says "there are 30 fighters" so I understand the fix for a larger battle, yet it needs to have dialogue, they're just kinda like "yeah whatever a bunch of tie fighters no biggie, keep quiet and fight" I also liked that he changed the trajectory of Vader's shot when he nails a hit on R2. In original he shoots below Luke's x wing then all of a sudden R2 gets hit. I don't agree with the scene change after this though when Luke says "I've lost R2". He removes C-3P0s emotional reaction. That scene is super important and it feels empty without it. In Star Wars Droids have feelings too.
On yo feet maggot Only because the audio switched from Puggo's edit to Adywan's. In Adywan's edit, the transition from the original soundtrack to Imperial March is almost seamless.
![Battle of Naboo - Gungans vs Droids [4K HDR] - Star Wars: The Phantom Menace](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8oBEzKm9grM/mqdefault.jpg)
Such a small detail in the Adywan edition I appreciate is the death star starting to fire. Really drives home how close they were to losing.
It has some good details, but the actual visuals are on parr with the shitty 90s cgi of the special editions... (also some of cinematography is really jarring next to the rest of the film)
Exactly! It's my new favorite version.
You got it.
A bit different in Legends; Tenn Graneet, the master chief gunnery officer of the Death Star, felt extremely guilty over the destruction of Alderaan, and kept repeating "standby" over the intercom, hoping for something to happen that would prevent him from pulling the trigger and killing so many people yet again.
loses the shot of Tarkin though, what a complete fucking bungle!
Puggo Grande looks like a war documentary
lol
Gotta admit it's got some interesting lighting at times
it looks like the copy Turkish Star Wars stole the footage from
@@jeezed2950 interesting as in total sh*t
@@omarbaba9892 go shut up
Comment section:
50% "Andywan's edit ruins the originals"
50% "Andywan's edit is amazing"
Because of additional scene
i think we can admit that its pretty impressive even if we dont prefer it.
How to fix it just put tarkin back in before it goes to the additional scene
The music for the vader kenobi fight was unnecessary but it was a great effort
@@josh-kg1rb this I agree with. Lol
And this is why I love this fandom, look at what people make. Their own version of the special editions, a restoration of the 1977 theatrical cut and a despecialised edition, this is passion, how people take the time to make this.
Question why cannot the Death star blow up the planet the moons orbiting to take out the moon?
It is a gas giant. Might not work. @@raven4k998
@raven4k998 the planet it is orbiting is a gas giant. Due to its size and heavy atmosphere, it is highly likely a single beam from the Death Star isn't enough to destory it. Even if it was, the Death Star is also next to it. So if they tried blowing up the planet and were successful and the resulting explosion could destroy the moons, then the Death Star is also getting destroyed since it is also nearby.
@@Terranhawk but your not thinking 4th dimensionally what would happen to a gas giant hit by the death star beam at full power would the moon survive it is all that matters not would the gas giant survive it because you seen what it does at low power to a planet so if what it does to a gas giant kills the moon that's good enough for scaring people into submission in gene Roddenberry's Andromeda a nova bomb will blow up a star or planet 40 will temporarily turn a black hole into a white hole so what would the death star beam do to a gas giant it may blow it up it might punch right through and hit the moon destroying the moon like the gas giant wasn't even there who knows because they didn't try it
Weird to attribute a small few's hard work to "fandom." Passively watching Star Wars doesn't make you part of any of their work
Adywan did pretty well. I especially like the addition of Yavin in the background. This guy _definitely_ played Rogue Leader.
It's people like him that give us hope that there are ways to enjoy Star Wars that's not made by Disney
i agree but thats not Yavin in the back, remember the death star was still trying to get in range of it
@@archangel9092 Yavin the gas giant.
@@archangel9092 Yavin is the planet. Yavin 4 is the moon the rebel base is on.
Nope, hate it. Should be deleted and he should be banned from the internet, never to return. It's terrible. I disagree. I don't like it. It's no good. Horrible. I'm nauseated.
I love Adywan's version, but the one attention to detail I especially enjoy (and one I feel was absolutely necessary) is the addition of Yavin in the background.
It looks accurate to the fictional events
That version is garbage
@@MikehMike01 like you
@@MikehMike01 like you
@@MikehMike01 then you dont know what to look for in a good movie
A final shot of Tarkin is more intense to me than seeing the Death Star begin to fire its lasers, Tarkin is one of the saga's primary antagonists, seeing his steely gaze before his imminent demise is great because we are left to wonder what his last thoughts are. Is he patiently waiting for the Rebel base's destruction? Is he having a brief moment of doubt? Is he excited? Apprehensive? Afraid? It seems an injustice that we are denied our last glimpse into his character.
I think both are good (on top of what you said, I think that the death star powering up shots really add some tension when viewed after the destruction of alderan)... maybe if should have started to fire up in the background of the ships flying away?
he's a psychopath. after Alderan, he lost any connection to empathy/sympathy for human beings. he's a tool in Palpatine's hands. a person who valued environment/system over life.
I feel sorry for him, he waited so long, and did not wait
He's both tense, and excited. He gets a powerful satisfaction from seeing masses destroyed. (That's why you can't see his left hand.) He's a bad man.
Oh well. Thrawn will take his place. 😎
The theatrical version of the film still holds up so well imo.
100%
Watching these scenes back again, I realize I forgot just how professional Vader was in his first appearance. No backstory beyond "He was a Jedi until he turned evil" in a time so early Darth was still his first name. And yet he is a soldier through and through, something that stayed pretty consistent as his character was expanded over the years.
Your perspective will change a lot when you think of it as a movie called "Star Wars". No Episodes or other films.
- Big Boss is Grand Moff Tarkin, not Vader.
- Vader supposed to be Tarkin's henchman. Best soilder/commando Tarkin have. Not 2nd in command of Galactic Empire. This is why some random officer mock Vader. And Vader took order from Tarkin to stop choking him. Compare to the sequel, his rank is more like Capt. Phasma. Not Gen.Hux or Kylo Ren.
Story is extremely goofy too. Whole story can be boiled down to some random unimportant guy saw a beautiful princess asked for help. Got horny. Go on an adventure to help her and succeed. And become famous. That's all Star Wars story. Which is quite similar to Mario story.
I love Adywan's edit overall, but there are two changes I find difficult to accept. The C-3PO reaction shot to "I lost R2" as well as the final shot of Tarkin before the Death Star blows. I miss those.
darthen856 yup 100%
Yeah no it shouldn’t and stop
@@Optimus-Prime-Rib Nope
just the extra emotional shots
I agree adds more emotion seeing C3PO worried and Tarkins final shot reminds us that he is still on the death star and thus meets his fate.
2:30 i love it how he made it actually say 7 minutes in Adywan
Now that’s a fix that helps
I love Ady's death star explosion! It emphasizes how close it is to firing right before it blows
Adywan is so cool looking, I’d definitely check it out.
2:59 that is such an improvement. "ooh scary, six fighters, we're doomed"
Yeah of some of the best pilots in the empire being led by Vader and including people like Iden Versio
@@omarbaba9892 well. Yes but is a movie we can't depend of extra content, it is not bad but it lukes better if we see a full army of fighters
@@omarbaba9892 Yeah, well the Theatrical Release doesn’t exactly make that clear. If this was the first Star Wars thing you saw and you weren’t a kid or something you’d be like: Wait, six fighters took out almost twenty elite fighters?
No mention of those first guys being from Vader’s own squadron, no mention of Tarkin blocking Vader’s order to get the crews to their fighters as he feels confident in the station’s defensive batteries, no nothing. You probably would’ve thought only his two wingmen were guys worth talking about. If you didn’t read the Novelization back then, you wouldn’t know this stuff.
I’m speaking from the standpoint of someone who’s new to Star Wars. If I was new, I would likely be thinking this.
There were like 39
I counted. There were 30 X- Wings, 28 if you count Porkins and that guy in the background at 1:36, and there were 30 TIES.
Adywan looks like a installed mod for star wars
Star-wars-Episode-4-A-New-Hope-Mod.Apk
Man this gmod mod is so intense
150th like and 3rd comment
@@projectblade82 .rar you mean
I mean, that’s basically what it is as far as I’m concerned.
Adywan feels like dumping a big bag of M&Ms on a wedding cake: a sweet addition but not really necessary.
I like what it did with the map, but the fighting has too little dialouge
Lightscribe225 you can never have too many sweets.
Not a fan of the Adywan TIE fighter sequence but I do like some of his more subtle edits, like removing matte lines in some model shots, removing the jumpcuts in the film whenever R2 would switch from bipedal to rolling mode, making Luke stand still when he opens and closes that super-fast door in the Death Star control room.
And last but not least... GREEDO NEVER SHOOTS AT HAN, the way it was meant to be.
He basically did a George Lucas and people are going gaga over it...ironic, really. I dislike the changes, they feel even more out of place than the GL's special editions.
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Adywan's extra dogfight sequence feels like it just has too long without dialogue. This scene has a lot of dialogue throughout and that empty space just feels out of place. It's still a badass edit nonetheless.
Agreed.
That bugged me too. I suspect when he does the HD update for revisited he'll dub in some dialogue.
Not at all. Do you think fighters have the luxury of chatting to each other in the heat of an intense battle? Adywan gives the film what it so desperately deserves. The original never feels threatening in a realistic sense. In fact, he doesn't give it enough. Hopefully when he polishes up ANHR he'll tweak some things that still need improving. I respect what should be kept from the original version, but not the action sequences. CGI should be used sparingly, which is rare these days of course, but in this case it's as justified as the effects for Jurassic Park. If that was done in stop motion (almost was) & then a fan had created an improved CGI version, the purists would still go for the original worse effects simply for the sake of it...
I agree also. Although I find it exciting. But hearing Darth Vader's theme was weird.
Whats funny is when the rebel pilot die he makes a wilhelm scream but the other wilhelm scream nit famous one
The trench run is one of the few scenes in movies that still gets my heart racing. Star Wars is a magical thing.
Like the touch of the Death Star about fire.
why can't the death star blow up the planet instead of orbiting it to reach the moon it would be much quicker and make it look more terrifying you cannot hide from the emperor kids🫵✊✊
@@raven4k998 The lore reason not given in the movie is that the first death star needed a certain time to recharge between shots, depending on the power output. Blowing up an entire planet required a full day to recharge, if I remember correctly.
The Death Star can't destroy Yavin itself for two reasons:
1 - The superlaser takes 24 hours to recharge after a complete blast. Even if they could clear Yavin out of the way, that gives the rebels time to evacuate Yavin IV.
2 - Yavin is a gas giant. The chemical reaction caused by the superlaser igniting it would produce a stellar body on par with a supernova, which even the Death Star couldn't withstand. Destroying a gas giant would destroy the station, and even a hit and run would leave no time for a jump to hyperspace. It would be suicide.
@@tsukopara2054 your not thinking 3 dimensionally about the damage if they blew up Yavin going what would that blast do to Yavin moon wouldn't that take the moon out? think about it a Moon from a planet sized explosion unlike the death star which has shields the moon does not wouldn't the explosion and shock wave take it down?
I love Adywan's version but I hate how he made the background of the Death Star all grey. I love that Harmy kept in the color to a darkish blue hue
ADYWAN IS GOOOD
Umm, the Death Star WAS just different versions of grey....
He wanted to give it more of a battleship feel. I kinda like it.
Also love Adywan's version, but I agree -- some of his recolor choices aren't to my taste. He should have kept the X-Wings' engine glow magenta instead of the "corrected" red his version has.
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I love Puggo's because it doesn't try to hide what it is. It's gritty, authentic, scratched, light damaged, worn, like the galaxy we all came to know and love. Yes, the roll of film is over 40 years old, but its message, its sense of rebellious adventure, its beauty, is timeless. It's the only version I watch now. And I'm one of the few who has all three of Puggo's original trilogy scans.
Puggo just gives it so much more a "nostalgic" vibe tbh. Don't get me wrong; I enjoyed the crisp clean remasterings of the others. But, I'd definitely be happy to keep a copy of this render just as a momento for my childhood days of Star Wars fandom. =)
@@coinerman9946 Agreed. I downloaded them off the Internet archive a few years back when all 3 were still available. Glad I did too. All are in their original resolutions so they're small but they're crisp for scans. The sound also is their original, it hasn't been re-recorded or anything so each track in the original edit is the same, no compromises.
at 0:13, That hologram effect is so cool! But I think it's much better for the Adywan version to retain the death star orbiting the Yavin the get to the Yavin 4 instead zoom in onto it's top hemisphere.
It makes more sense that they'd be watching the battle, and the audience gets visual updates of the Death Star approach from the Tarkin shots, as well as audio from the Rebel base PA system. having them stare at it on the display as well was always kind of redundant.
That very last shot at 13:20 the falcon is flying at a 45° angle and it has bothered me since I first saw this movie as a kid - I was hoping someone would fix it!!!
Plo with pg I hope that they fix it 11:30 12:09
Yeah there's a lot of starnge angles of ships flying in the original version. The Falcon ecaping from Mos Eisley is another example of that.
I've never seen the Adywan version before and absolutely love the extended dogfight scenes. Cheers mate, thanks for the comparison.
Honestly, the original X-wings at 0:19 look more convincing than the cgi ones
Amen to that.
In the Adywan Revisited one, on 12:53, I noticed that the Death Star tried to fire at them before exploding... well, that was ironic...
I do wonder what went on in their heads while that was happening. Did they know they were doomed?
They were trying to shoot Yavin 4, where the rebel base was.
I like that. It makes it seem as if the Death Star firing is what caused it to explode. Not: *Nothing going on.... BOOM!*
It kinda reminded me of how Malevolence was ravaged. After the Y-Wings torpedoes the shit out of one of the ion cannons, Malevolence still tried to fire. But when it did, instead of releasing an ion blast, the ignition of the ion cannon destroyed it.
@@thecatfather857 yeah that would be more ironic
@@maxstirnersego the guy in charge of pulling the lever to fire had a huge amount of guilt and self hatred for blowing up alderaan, so he said "standby" a few times hoping something bad would happen to the death star
I am an Orthodox Original Trilogist, Reformation 1981, but man... I would not ever mind seeing the Death Star begin to fire like that. What an exciting detail.
So... something just occurred to me. Just the X-wing lasers were able to do massive damage to the surface of the Death Star, so it clearly wasn't shielded.
Did nobody think to just go over and SHOOT THE SUPERLASER DISH?!
That would have at least put it out of action for a while......
Some canon books and etc say the rest of Gold squad was tasked to take out the dish if the trench run didnt work. We only see one Y-wing left flying away so we can guess how that plan went.
You realize how large it is, right?
In Legends, Blue and Green Squadrons did indeed attack the superlaser dish in an effort to damage it to the point that the _Death Star_ couldn’t fire, or at the very least draw attention away from Red and Gold Squadrons. From my understanding, Blue and Green Squadrons didn’t suffer as many casualties.
@@jaziferret1138 I suppose the Imperials expected an attack on a such an onvious (and large) target so it was heavily defended, whilst they probably didn't anticipate the Rebels having discovered the exhaust port (maybe they didn't know themselves) or underestimated the danger
Adywan version of the dogfight blends well with the Rogue one version
Carlos Guevara I don't understand the other Versionsnummer xD
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You know blends EVEN BETTER to Rogue One in the Revisited version? After Vader captures Leia and returns to the Death Star, when his star destroyer is approaching the Death Star, the Death Star is orbiting a planet very much like Skairf, where Rogue One ends. And it makes perfect sense considering that's the last place the Death Star was at the end of Rogue One, so Vader simply went back there. I truly wonder if John Knoll and/or Gareth Edwards saw Revisited and liked that scene enough to fit Rogue One to it. After all Skarif could have looked very different in Rogue One but didn't.
Carlos Guevara It does, doesn't it? It makes the other three look like a lonely battle.
My brother even tought the shot of the ton of TIE Fighters scrambling from the gate station hangars into the battle was a nod to Adiwan's quite similar shot
3:00 This is the best scene of Adywan Revisited, i love it!!!
Although it’s feels weird with the lack of dialogue
@@privatecheems9808 but is still amazing
I wish it kept the original music
Holy shit! I loved the bit at the end when you see the Death star lasers about to fire!! that was strangely awesome! made the scene more intense in my opinion!
you are correct!
I like seeing tarkin last before the explosion
It also makes a bit more sense than the original. With the laser firing, you would have no idea whether Luke truly succeeded or not. In the original, you pretty much know it's about to blow.
Exactly, with less tension. With Darth Vader distracting Luke long enough for the Death Star to power up the laser, yet the torpedo hit the sweet spot just in time.
Nick930 He could have added Tarkin looking concerned AND have the Death Star about to fire before exploding. That would have been perfect.
I love every part of Adywan's except for the extra dogfight scene. Maybe a little dialogue in there?
Adywan Revisted is so dense, every single image has so many things going on. ;)
The 2011 Special Edition is really the Adywan but with Puggo Grande and it's pretty much a perfect blend. I do wish that they didn't add the TIE sequence from Adywan, since they could've easily made it look better. Also, the little extras from Adywan like Yavin Prime and the rest of the starfighters battling in the background, along with the extra X-Wings in the trench makes the battle more consistent lore and timeline-wise. Also, that shot of the Death Star blowing up as it was about to fire reminds me of the stakes in such a chilling way and it's so cool! Nevertheless, this iconic battle and iconic effects will never get old!
The "purist" version of Adywan's edit (which leaves the movie relatively untouched in regards to big changes, i.e., doesn't have things such as the extended battle sequence with the imperial march seen in this video) is the definitive edition of the film for me.
While I respect and understand the need to preserve the original movie and have it as an available option to watch, I couldn't for the life of me watch the movie again without the small tweaks and effects that Adywan adds and that actually makes sense.
I agree. Adywan may have even been more of a closet EU fan than originally thought. But there's nothing wrong with that. Nothings ever gonna be perfect. But on topic, the improvements from a logical perspective definitely work for sure. He added a strain of tension when the additional Ties and the Imperial Anthem played. Even in the background having some Y-Wings take down some fighters so they don't always look like they're just cannon fodder makes even the small things stand out.
3:40 it’s kind of cool how for once, you see the inside view of a tie fighter being destroyed and how the pilot reacts
One thing to be said about older aged film...the dated special effects look more real.
The thing I LOVE about Adywan's version is the dogfight in the background. It's kinda stupid that they just sent out 6 beginning fighters hoping it would help. The increased number of fighters really hypes up the scene and shows where all the other X-Wings went. Poor CGI though on the fighters, but hey, it's a fan edit, they didn't STUDY their lives for this.
It makes perfect sense that an arrogant and unconcerned command would only send out a few fighters.
I love the rustic 8mm look of Puggo Grande, it makes it look like you're actually watching this at a theatre in May 1977.
Film was at its peak by 1977, the visuals would have been razor sharp not washed out like that version.
2:59 all those extra fighters feels right because it reminds of all those hours playing Rogue Squadron.
Still think all the model work looks better than the CGI models, even with all the graphical glitches on the engine lights
The 3D model of the planet + Deathstar ala Return of the Jedi was neat but you could tell he had to change a bunch of scenes to avoid showing the table.
That explains why only 2 x-wings and a y-wing returned from that battle...
William KS that's pretty well explained in the original. we see tons of fighters blasted out of the sky
The Y Wings are bombers which means they slower. So they're more easy pickings for the Tie-Fighters (but they can do more damage than the X-Wings against the towers). Besides, they're attacking one of the most heavily fortified space stations in the entire galaxy so casualties are bound to be high.
Luke Skywalker, Wedge Antilles, Evaan Verlaine.
@@Joesolo13 Yeah, only about half of the reported thirty.
Would have liked to have seen what that Y-wing was doing for 5 minutes or 10 minutes, since it wasn't in the trench. Like bombing runs on the tower or as someone said, the dish. Maybe bombing a fighter bay before some got off.
Dear Blackout Despecialized while it says in the description that you own nothing I hope some day you have enough money to own something.
351cleavland lol
I like the change to green light flashes in the interior turbolaser bays. I really like all the alternative shots too.
I love how adywan is making it more intense.
And how i love how he's fixing mistakes from both original and special editions.
I enjoyed the additional starfighters in the approach, the extra scene and the adjustment to the Death Star's explosion. Nixed the halo (I'm not opposed to it but it would've made more sense along the thinner midsection) and added the charging sequence to illustrate better how close it was.
in those times the effects were awesome but now it seems outdated, thats why some ppl will say adywan is better, the reason why movies like godfather, cytizen kane,casablanca can still be great is cause they didnt need special effects, all are stories of any ppl, not a space war, even 2001 space odyssey seems outdated in some parts
So according to you only older fans are allowed to enjoy Star Wars?
M8 LOLZ 2 it sucks hard. Badest colour grading ever.
I love the added detail of the Death Star actually powering up to fire moments before exploding in Adywan's version of the scene. It makes the tension much higher.
Adywan is prety much a rogue squadron fan edit. And you know what, I'm ok with it. It gives some love to the boys of Red squad
Adywan is a masterpiece. That one actually looks like a full three squadron attack getting shot at. The additional shot of the Tie fighter counter attack was brilliant. You actually get a sense of dread when they all start intermixing it with the Rebel Squadrons. And they do the Tie Fighters justice as they appear as a potent threat. All it needed was the audio clip of Luke crying for Biggs after he got blasted by Vader.
1. Adywan (fantastic dogfight scene, I wish there was a way to add some dialogue though)
2. 2011 SEB (Overall a big improvement on some of the previous remasters)
3. Harmy's (The original. Enough said)
4. The toilet fire on the top right
Puggo Grande actually looks like a 1944 documentary
Adywan's attention to detail is unmatched. By far the best.
damn Adywan's final edit where the Death Star blows up as the lasers come online. That's the sickest edit I've seen
ive seen this scene hundreds of times and i think it gains with intensity the more i see it
Despecialized Edition all the way. The need to own it is a strong one.
Adywan version is nice, but it feels like a 'fan-edit'(which it is) instead of how Star Wars is meant to watched to newcomers.
The newly added dog-fightings ruins the pacing, and there's no dialogue to justify it. Especially it drastically reduces the impact of Imperial March from TESB. Not to mention, CGI doesn't match to other special effects. The hologram and the prequelesque technology are extremely video gamy. The ending feels over the top and poor CGI didn't helped.
Minor fixes are really awesome. Like laser color correction is cool, the continuity fix including X-Wing in the trench and the red planet in the background is great. The dogfight in the background adds the intensity. Luke shouting Biggs in his death scene, focusing on Leia's face in Yavin IV, and I even liked the slight additional turret shot. This edit should have remain as minor fix-edit. It seems like he was too overzealous at adding new shit.
I would watch it for repetitive viewings, I wouldn't show it to first timers.
To be honest the CGI is much better than some of the crap that Lucas added officially, so that doesn't bother me, but I agree the extended dogfight didn't work without dialogue, plus the pilots don't look stressed from all the tie-fighters because of the footage he's used.
The visual effects are amazing with Adyawan Revisited but the tie fighter part felt very out of place
Me too, like, if it took 1 second later they would be all dead
Ow. 1 second. That must be a pain for Darth Sidious.
yeah, it wont ever explode that fast
The 30 second extension scene was cut from the Purist Edition of Revisited as long as the throwback Episode 3 OST used in Vader vs. Obi Wan fight
the way the death star's lasers are already firing up when it explodes in the Adywan Revisited is so fucking cool and the best addition from that version
What I love about the Adywan edition is how certain scenes are slightly rearranged. It really creates a different dynamic, adding more energy to the scene and modernising the editing style. It's not overly flashy or anything like the special edition. It's what the special edition should have been.
Though, the special editions never should have replaced the originals... only appeared alongside them
That revisited one is almost perfect, adding the planet in the background and the addition of a ton of fighters (finally)
I wished we were listening to the revisted audio at 10:45.
Luke calling out to Biggs was an excellent addition to the moment.
The Star Wars fandom proves itself to be like the sonic fandom sometimes.
One thing I adore about Adywan’s version is how he fixed the continuity of the final trench run, and just by adding a third x wing in the background to show the two swerving ones were Red 2 and 3
Something i will give the Adywan version credit for is we actually get a spit second shot of Porkins X Wing being grazed by a laser before he says "Ive got a problem here." In the original film you dont fully know what hes talking about, you have to just assume he got hit my ground fire but its not super clear.
0:47 “We’re passing through the magnetic field! Hold tight!”
Even watching this in a four-panel comparison shot it was still really intense. One of the greatest films of all time.
Adywan and Harmy's Despecialized look best at different parts
The official blu-ray is so fucking dark. Call me a hipster, but I LOVE the look of the 16mm print of Puggo Grande. I'm usually a "I want to watch my favorite movies in the best possible presentation" kinda guy. But the gauzy authenticity of the 16mm prints just give the films such a sense of texture and life. It makes you appreciate the tactile " they did it all for real" reality of the films all the more.
DeEd all the way, gives us the original version, with improved visuals
@@EvantheKidDS No
@@EvantheKidDS Sounds great! Will definitely be checking it out.
At 13 this was a life changing experience in 1978.
That revisited version actually had the Death Star beginning to fire and exploded JUST before getting the shot out, that was a really good change.
i lovebthe hologram. very nice touch up dog fights and showing planet in background. amazing effort and skills to do all this. great job.
Not sure about the added dogfight from Ady...but I gotta say that last second explosion where you can see the superlaser seconds away from firing definitely ups the tension.
Tahkaullus01 all it needed was the big ring in the explosion to be perfect
The one thing I like is that when vader shoot luke for the first time, his laser went up not down which is where R2 exactly is
Where can I watch the full version of Adywan Revisited SW trilogy?
Looking in the description may be helpful.
Star Wars Comparison I meant with polish subtitles... sorry xD
I don't believe that exists anywhere. Use the goog.le link in the description to find places where you can ask about this.
I feel the revisiting really amps up the scale of the fight scenes. I especially love the detail of the Death Star ready to fire before it exploded.
0:18 I like how they combined those two scenes in the blu-ray release
Upper right made me feel like was back at the drive-in. Very nostalgic.
The reason this whole scene worked so well is that we gave a darn about what happened to the pilots.
They were afraid and acting on training and every time one is lost we have to experience the fear and witness the loss.
It was a brilliant piece of directing.
In the force awakens and rogue one we don't care what happens in the battles and the body count because we don't have to experience the battle in the cockpit along side the pilots.
It's sloppy.
You see the pilot’s in their cockpits plenty of times in Rogue One. I’d would suggest rewatching it, you aren’t remembering it correctly.
I love the Adywan’s Revisited version!
We finally see in Adywan's version what Porkin's "problem" was.
My first introduction to Star Wars may have been Shadows of the Empire on N64, and my first cinematic experience may have been the Prequel Trilogy but I was fortunate to watch the 1st edition home video release of "A New Hope" through my local public library.
5:20 Adywan Revisited is satisfying af
3:16 Look at how calm Wedge is, even when tailed.
This proves that wedge is a brave rebel pilot and that is why he's my favorite character.🔥🔥🤍🖤💚
Adywan is a huge improvement as well as the Death Star nearly firing, but we need a final shot of Tarkin so that way we feel justice. Due to him being the main antagonist of the film and him being so despicable, we need a final shot with him thinking that he’s got everything in the bag, and then it blows up in his face
I always loved how Tarkin looks in this sequence. You can tell how cocky he is, how stoic he's trying to remain. In his mind, hes Invincible right now. Just toying with the rebels, about to blow up an entire planet. However, I feel like you can tell just by his silence and expression that deep down, there's that nagging feeling in his mind that the rebels fighting just outside could actually win. That he very might just lose his life in this moment...
And oh how he should have listened to that gut feeling...
Adywans looks soooooooooo good
Eh, the added dogfight scene is wierd and the new graphics at the rebel base look bad and don't give as much information as the much simpler one from the original.
Star Wars Hub i liked how more intense it was, like how the laser started firing before it blew up
Star Wars Hub adywan looks awful and shitty
Mobile Band well i respect your opinion that happens to differ from mine
+Mobile Band I think you missed out the line "...in my humble opinion..."
I love how you can see the superlaser almost fired in the background.
Like how sinister Adywan made the TIEs seem @ 3:25.
The added dogfighting battle fixes a plot hole when Vader says "there are 30 fighters" so I understand the fix for a larger battle, yet it needs to have dialogue, they're just kinda like "yeah whatever a bunch of tie fighters no biggie, keep quiet and fight"
I also liked that he changed the trajectory of Vader's shot when he nails a hit on R2. In original he shoots below Luke's x wing then all of a sudden R2 gets hit. I don't agree with the scene change after this though when Luke says "I've lost R2". He removes C-3P0s emotional reaction. That scene is super important and it feels empty without it. In Star Wars Droids have feelings too.
0:00-5:00 Osleo Prennert (That One Rebel Guy You Briefly See On Yavin IV)
Just come to think about it, what if the Adywan version was the actual one released back in 1977?
Tom *Thomas* *Jasper* Cat then there'd be a lot less edits
...then the 1977 original would be the Special Edition.
Lol a movie I'd get today still (I didn't like puggo grande
Tom Cat Productions, Inc. Then no one would hate it.
that brief frame at 9:00 of Red leaders X-wing impacting the surface is so small, but makes the scene make more sense.
12:46 that is Tenn Graneet the main gunner of the superlaser.
I love in the adywan one where the Death Star almost fires but it explodes instead
I really like puggo grande cockpit scenes, makes it feel more natural since they're in space
Adwans's is the best. I love how it exploded just before it was able to fire, makes the scene more intense.
“Remember, the fans will be with you, always.”
I like the revisited version even tho i wouldn’t have changed some scenes, good work
I kinda like the soundtrack of puggo grande and I don't know why. There's just something about it that I like
Harlan Dy it's got the grainy nostalgic music lol
It’s the mono mix it is also on the despecialized edition
Great job of edition, congratulation and thanks!
I like the added tie fighter battle but the music starts and ends so abruptly and it doesn't fit with the original music
On yo feet maggot Only because the audio switched from Puggo's edit to Adywan's. In Adywan's edit, the transition from the original soundtrack to Imperial March is almost seamless.
That’s was the switch in Audio between revisited and grande my friend
Adywan is by far the best edit for the battle of Yavin. in my opinion.