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Wiring a motorbike (or caferacer) 'Bare Bones' (part 2 of 2)
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This is part 2 of 2 video’s about how to sort your wiring on a motorbike.
This part talks you through how to hook up your different components which we tested in part 1. With these you are able to start and fire up your engine. You don't need more...
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Brother, I just wanted to thank you and let you know that I'm gonna go out tomorrow and wire up my 81 xv750 because of how easy you made all this. Thank you so much! It's been sitting in my garage for years because I was too scared to start taking out the 42 year old harness but now , I'm gonna get that fiery woman roadworthy!
ok, so I have a fuse block but I'm confused as to where I should attach the brown wire from the main switch(not the tap to the regulator/rectifier) onto the fuse block...to clarify, I do not know whether to connect it at the +,-, or to the side positive output terminals, or the ground input terminals... I think 90% of everything else is correct with uncertainty resting in the fuseblock connections and whether I have the two wires connecting the starter and solenoid attached the proper wires "the aftermarket solenoid uses two completely different colored wires than the stock wires. Any further help you can give me or if you explained it in the videos and I missed it maybe some time stamps? Thanks!
Killer videos man! These are really helpful in demystifying bike wiring. Its much easier as a new builder to break down these steps into individual components. This way the project doesn't seem so daunting and over complicated. Once the bike fires up, everything else just seems less complicated.
You also mentioned Antigravity batteries in one of your other posts, can you be a little more specific?
Good job. This stuff is what stops a lot of bike builders in their tracks, I'm sure the video will be a big help to many people.
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Very good video. I am getting ready to completely rewire an old bike and this was the most helpful so far. I feel it is possible finally.
Dude im wiring a 85 yamaha virago and you have helped me so much and you are a beast keep it up bro thx again from chi-town
Video was made 4 years ago and still helping people.. thank you!
I studied part 1 and 2 of starting ignition systems of motorcycle. It's very helpful to me. I'm a retired Warrant Officer 1 Sri Lanka Army Signals Corps. Now I'm a elderly person. Your explaining in this regard very keen interest to any person. God bless you. I'm Tharick.... Wish you a happy future...!
I feel so much more confident on my bobber build. I'm chugging away mocking up parts as I can afford em. The whole time watching videos dreading the wiring. I'm looking forward to it now... thanks!
Can't thank you enough man. Got my 84 virago 750 to fire up straight away for the first time last night
Thank you Chief Pep. Good video like the first. It’s helping me put some of the fundamentals together. I think I’ll fully “get it” soon. Thanks!
You solved all my problems I've been dealing with for a month now thank you
I've just picked up a bobber project and the wiring is like a bird's nest but this video has broke it down nice a simple, I look at the wiring diagram and it's to busy looking for me to follow but this makes it look a lot easier thank you very much.
Good luck with the re-wiring!
Hi there bud, just want to say thanx alot your video helped alot, got my bike to run. Regards from South Africa
Thanks you made me understand fully how the wiring system works.
Thank you so much! This really demistifies the wiring system. Thank you, it really gave me the courage to redo the wiring on my TW 😄
Good videos straight forward and easy to understand. I am learning a lot from watching your videos, well done!
I am completely new to this, wiring has scared me since the beginning, with your step by step, I’m slowly getting more familiar and confident in understanding! Thank you!!
I am not yet in this part, but watching your videos is help to not be afraid when It comes.
Best video I’ve seen yet about this subject great job
Thank you 2014 softail knowing about ground from run start switch is gold.god bless your soul army core of engineers
Awesome video, saved my life. I have an 82 XV750 I need to fabricate a new wire system for.
Take it step by step and definitely start with video part 1 of 2!
You really made a wonderful job making these videos ! I learned a lot and it helps me with my build you are answering all my interrogations thank you very much keep going !
Awesome video I’m trying to get my gpz750 up an running this is really helpful
Thanks so much! I'm wiring a 'bare bones' electrical system for a 1978 Yamaha XS750 Triple! Basically it ends up being identical to your bike, except my bike has 1 more cylinder than yours.
I have a xs triple aswell i dont understand everytime i get to key switch part sparks fly
Thank had the same thought myself. Still good video I still learned somethings from this, keep up the good work mate, bike was amazing you should have won something just for that....
Very nice idea for producing a “blank diagram to draw on.”
Very enlightened. Thank you very much.
Well done as a Aircraft avionics Tech i say great video and explanation. Top Notch
Super ! fantastic video
Great job with this video. Taking it step by step, paciently, is very helpful! TKS
Actually, you didn't help me a little bit, you helped me a great deal. Thanks you so very much, keep up the good work.
Hey man I appreciate you I don't know how to work this phone hardly but I'd I really appreciate your videos I'm time to wire up a 1988 250
Thanks alot. I'll try fixing my Honda 600 f4i, it's been down for 2yrs checked by so many people.
It looses voltage 8volts to nothing from the icu when cranking.
Good job, thanks for explaining
That is a detailed videos which helpful in wiring 👍👍
Amazing going to help me wire my bike up today been putting it off for months
Thanks man I appreciate it
really good video
Clearly explained. Thanks, mate.
Fabulous, because of this my xj900 is soon to run:)
Thanks for video
awesome video this will help a lot lol i found a 1970 to 1980 first gen Honda Odyssey go cart atv and someone put a Yamaha xj 400 engine from the bike in it and lot of the wires aren't hooked up and the spark plug wires are cut and nothing is hooked to the cgi box and they made there own control box with the key and push buttons and fuses and switches and that but from the key both blue wire goes out of the box somewhere lol and an orange comes back into the box i'm guessing cause its to the start button so there's no spark at all its a mess
For you to wire it up properly! 👍
I was wondering if you can do a video with fuel injection along with the bare wiring your information
Is great well put
I don't have a bike right now. Perhaps in the future I could do something like that.
Great video, Mate!
Thank you, extremely educational, thank you.
That's hilarious! Were you up all night? Holding the solenoid in your hand and repeatedly calling it a coil.
very well explained. Thank you
You are a good instructor now when you Gunnar come and fix my klr 250. Lol
You don't wanna know how many of these requests I had! 😅
Excellent!... very informative. Thank you :)
Hey Chief! thanks for your videos! i just discovered your channel as I'm in the process of rewiring my XV750 from 1982. any chance you could share the link to the PDF document?
Much appreciated! cheers!
In the discription
The link is dead for me :( does it work for you?
Great step by step I am going to use this next bike I rebuild!
Thanks
Nice 👍
Great series of vids. Question: On Kickstarter bikes - instead of a battery - if you use a Battery Eliminator - is it just a matter of direct swap of batter for Eliminator? Meaning: everything stays the same wiring wise? Thanks.
I am sorry. I have no experience with this...
thank god i found this. thank you!!
Worth GOLD!
this is great man ! so good for rookies. there aint that much content like this for us ;)
Love your videos. They have helped me with a lot of my questions and build ideas with my 81 virago build. I am having one issue, and I hope you can point me in the right direction. I was removing the starter to replace it because the gear was broken off into the case. After removing the shift lever and case, the shift mechanism pulled off of the shift cylinder (not sure what to call it). I've tried putting back into the right orientation several times thinkin I was putting it back wrong but, once it's put together, it will only shift into first and neutral. Is it because I have to put the case back together and fill it with fluids? I know some older bikes have a hydro lock system but I don't want to waste new fluids and have to dump it back out if that's not it. Just trying to save money and time. I've watched so many videos on TH-cam, especially yours, and you have a super firm grasp on a lot of Virago issues and workings. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Mike McDermott Thank you so much! Are you trying to shift it static? Because that won't work. You only can shift up further then second gear when you spin your wheel or shaft. Rather with the wheel on so you make big turns. Or roll the bike if you can't lift the wheel. The shafts and all won't find their way static... Have you found my video where I install the shift mechanism? You can pause the video and compare your installation. Just to make sure.
Thanks for getting back to me. I will definitely have to go back to that video and study it a little further. I will definitely try it out. The bike is looking fantastic. Keep making videos, you have a life long fan. Thanks again.
Hi! Great videos:) helps me alot👍🏻 i have a question about rectifier. I bought a new aftermarkert rectifier and i wonder how i connect the cables when i just have the black,red and yellow cable? I use the same fusebox and try doing the same set up like you:)
That's what I explain exactly in the video. Aftermarket R/R' s only have three wires. The yellow is for the ignition switch. Red black positive negative. Just follow/listen to that part of the video.
Is TCI same as CDI ?
Please watch part 1 of 2. All will be much clearer!
thank you and bless you. easy to understand. worth to sub
You are the best!
Very well
Helped so much thank you!!!
Help a bit??? Fuck.... This helps a lot, is like a bible!!! My 1T5 is a mess... Thank you!
Where does the black/white stripe wire for the kick stand relay go?
I don't know. You would have to follow the original wire scheme. I don't have that handy. You can act the sidestandswitch the same as the killswitch. It just cuts off power. It's nothing special.
Great video
Hi, you install relays ?? Is necessary or just fuses are good ? Thanks !!
Felipe Iturra fuses. And later 1 blinker relais
I wired my 79 xs1100 like this and still can't get it to start it seems like its not getting enough power to crank starter and hints on what it mite be
Pay good attention at this video th-cam.com/video/FJs1IAaEWVo/w-d-xo.html start at 5 minutes and listen carefully.
thanks again, hop to see more...
You mean headlights and stuff? That's the easy part. You will see that in my regular series.
Good evening sir, greetings from india. frequent visitor of your channel.just wanted to give a simple suggestion regarding your videos...sir,can you please divide your videos in parts??like part 1,part 2..?so that we can easily see all your videos according to their building process...thank you
Ratnarajsinh Jadeja Thank you for your reply. I would advice you to just look at the upload date... Than you see the upload order...
Hi. is it possible to use one motorcycle electricity to another one?
Offcourse. A wire is a wire 😊
Ok if you have a bike A Kawasaki GPZ 600R that came without a wiring harness, one that had been cooped up so much that I had nothing to go on or no Patton to follow what do you do? terminals 5 at the bottom 5 at the top, but
Thanks and kindness regards Terry…..
The same as all the other questions below with different bikes. First find the wiring diagram. Then, just draw the wires like I did in this video. Pick a color which you like for each. If you want to make it easy, pick my colors.
Will the same principle work with a 1200 bandit I was told all japanese bikes have pretty much the same layout, there just seems to be a hell of a lot more wire's in my bandit n I'm confused
If it has no fuel injection; yes it's pretty much the same. And the basics are the same always.
@@chiefpepdesign ta
Hi love the video. Really informative considering I don't know much when it comes to electricity. I was curious though, does it matter the brand or type of my regulator/rectifier? I have a 1981 xs400, but i don't know what I need. Can I just use one from the same bike as mine but a newer year? Sorry I'm just kind of lost here. Thanks.
I find that always hard to answer. What the thing does is make ac current to dc current. In a certain amount to charge the battery. Since a 1985 R/R doesn't work on a '81 XV I guess it comes pretty narrow. So I darn't tell...
Brad lay follow me on instagram, xs_1981, I am building my xs for a scrambler
nice
thanks alot alot
This is my first project Maxim 650, I e watched the video couple times and still it’s hard for me to work electrical stuff. Maybe if I get those diagrams will be easier. How can I get them please? 🙏🏼
I explain that in the video and the description.
I have an 81 xv750 came in a lot of boxes... long story. I have assembled it... finally harness all hooked up, connect battery... nothing apart from one relay under the seat clicking. Dissapointed... I'll say! This has given me new hope.
What about the little block of diodes either in the headlight or (as mine are) under the seat, are they also no longer needed?
Where does the nuetral detect wire that is on the connector to the rectifier connect?
Yes. Ditch all the diodes if you follow my sceme. The neutral wire goes to the speedometer.
I have a Kawasaki falcon 800 2005 trying to colar match a universal switch to bike but colors do not match
They are just on and off switches. Color doesn't matter. They let the power through, or they don't... They can't make it simpler then that.
This was a great explanation and Dan made an awesome job with the diagrams.i know that you work on a xv750 but its possible to use this as a base for a xv250?cause i got my hands on 1 and the wiring is a mess and needs to be reworked and cant find any bare bone for that model.
For sure!
there is power going too the coil and power from cdi
Hey great video I built a gpz600 into cafe racer built to harness followed everything you said everything works but I can't seem to get spark bike use to get spark before on the old harness where can I look thanks Jason
Measure the wires step by step starting with the alternator. Is the only way to find the fault...
Hi, I tried to download the pdf and looks like is no available , can you please share it with me?
No sorry. Best is just to pause the video. But did you registrate yourself to the forum? Otherwise it doesn't work.
how about yamaha xjr400 cdi wirring daigram???plss help
Just blank out your wiring diagram like this and do the same...
This didnt help me i got to the key ignition part and sparks went off i rewinded and re traced steps same thing one from battery 20A fuse one from battery to starter from 20A fuse to 2 wire key ignition and bam sparks it doesnt work
Hello friend, anyone maybe you can advise I have issue With KTM 1290S 2021 new model. there is No neutral indication, no gear indicator and you cannot start without pressing clutch in, Quick shifter Active but not working, And after about 15 minutes ride on the bike ,suddenly lose power and it feels like going from sixth gear to second gear and you lose control of the throttle,no response, But it doesn't shut down, I go to the side, Kill the switch off and start again after 1 minute, And you get control on the throttle again, Until arriving home safely slowly. Last time I was in the service they have reset the computer and quick shifter plus gear indicator and neutral light came back but after stopping to fuel the bike The problem reappeared, And the worst thing is that lost of power as I mentioned after 20 minutes or so, Every time it happens I get cruise control light , Traction control,engine light, And if this happened on Rally mode, so there is N.A Appears on the left side of the screen, I cannot also switch between mode, So guys if anyone experienced such catastrophe I would really appreciate your thoughts And ideas about this problem🙏
This sounds like a complete computer failure. Since the bike is so new, this would 100% fall under manufacturer guarantee. So go back to your official KTM dealer, and they will most definitely fix this. Good luck!
What is the difference between wiring a tci vs a cdi? I am re-wiring a 93' xv1100 that came with a cdi. The wiring on this bike is complete cobb-job.
All components test out ok thanks to your first bare bones video. I Re-grounded frame, starter, etc. with thick wire as suggested. I need to know how to go from the small wire on the 3post solenoid to the starter relay if even needed? The cdi, to the coils, kill switch, start switch, etc.. I am using a Toggle switch instead of a keyed ignition. Any advise could save this bikes life. cheers!
Should be the same... I can't make more out of it sorry... 😔
Would you help me 🙏🏻:
I have Kawasaki kz750 twin building from scratch (bobber) my regular have 2 yellow wires one black one white/red and brown …
Yellows need to connect to stator,
Black is negative -
White/red it positive +(feeds battery)
And brown I have not a clue… on diagram looks like is connected to brake light switch 🤷🏻♂️. Would you help please?
I am sorry. I am no service dealer. I use these video's to answer the questions. Best is to go to you dealer or try a specialised Kawasaki Forum
@@chiefpepdesign Thanks 👍🏻.
Hello, do you have the ignition connection diagram of my yamaha virago xv 535 motorcycle? My motorcycle turns on from the ignition switch, but does not turn off. Even if I turn the key off, the motorcycle continues to run. There is an error in the link. Can you help?
You need a diagram which can be found in any workshop manual.
@@chiefpepdesign It opens with the key. But it doesn't cut the power back. It won't turn off even if I remove the key It is closed with the start/stop button on the handlebar. I couldn't find the schematic, I don't know. I cannot use my motorcycle 🤔🙂
@@emrahsahan5287 I have made these video tutorials to help people with these problems. There isn't more I can do. Buy a workshop manual for the diagrams.
Question Chief?
I have 83 xv750 but my engine is 1996 with one pickup coil but I was using the black TCI and start having issues and my bike stop working no sparks and all my wiring is chopped.
So I'm using your tutorial and start from scratch but I'll be using my 83 gold TCI.
Can I connect my pick up coil to the gold TCI?
Only has 2 cables, 1 green, 1blue.
Should I connect them the same way it was?
1 on top 1 on bottom pin..
Great content, it helps me a lot,
Thanks!
Oof, that's a hard question. I always had hard times figuring out which pin is which color. The wire colors on the connector which is on the black one should be corresponding to the colors which come out of the gold or silver colored one I guess... Does that help?
@@chiefpepdesign I have everything connected so hopefully I'll started today. I'll keep you posted if it works or not and if it works I'll probably make a tutorial cause probably there's a lot of people having same issues building cafe racer with engine swapped.
Thanks Chief!
Didn't fire up, just crank but no sparks!
I'm getting so frustrated...
I don't know if it's normal from the TCI to send all 12v to my coils( including orange and gray 12v) or they should be ground?
Also, I always get ground from my 4 pins to the pick up coil, don't know what to do...
Not getting any sparks from any TCI set up I did.
I follow the instructions from Chief and Virago tech forum for 1996 engine with the black TCI and nothing and now follow the 1983 TCI gold J4T00671 and nothing.
Any suggestions from Chief or anyone that knows about bare bones Virago?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
@@rafaelalmo I really think the best is to send this discussion to the Viragotechforum. It's too detailed for this place and you find only specialists there.
@@chiefpepdesign new update chief,
I made one cylinder to get sparks so only rear is not getting sparks..
Means that if my theory is not wrong, I have to either splice cables from TCI for pick up or make dual cables from pick up coil to TCI so computer will think that 2 pick up coils..
I'm so glad that your videos really helped,
Thanks!
Hi not able to download your wiring diagram. I must be doing something wrong 😕
I don't share the diagram. You have to go to viragotechforum, sign up there, wait for confirmation and then look for the diagrams as explained in de discription and my video's.
Seems that the links to the diagrams is not working anymore, or is it just me? Is there any other way to get them?
No sorry. Do a search on the viragotechforum.com First subscribe, then wait to get in (might take a day). Once you are a member you are able to see all the content.
Hi thanks for this! I'm cafe-ing my 81 virago 750 and am re-doing the wiring. Im wondering what kind of battery you went with? It looks like an 8 cell? I'd appreciate any info. I'm not really sure how many cold cranking amps I need.
A 12 Cell Life Lipo. But the brand doesn't exhist anymore. You can go for Antigravity that's a good brand. You will need 360cca. I tell everything about it in the starter problem solve video. Make sure to watch that.
Kan er ooit een update in het Nederlands gemaakt worden of is die er al groetjes
Nee sorry, deze blijft zo. Heb geen Nederlandse...
which fuseblock did you get? the link in the description just directs to a general page, none of which really look right...
Motorbreath - Nathan It's the 6 circuit with negative bus. www.bluesea.com/products/5025/ST_Blade_Fuse_Block_-_6_Circuits_with_Negative_Bus_and_Cover
Did you use the stock regulator rectifier with your new lithium-ion battery?
Yes. Works great
Hey I love watching your videos but is there any way you can please help me I need a bare Bones wiring diagram for a 1998 Yamaha virago xv1100 special i wired this thing like 20 different times got rid of my relays and s*** so I can't go back to the regular I'm just trying to bare Bones it I think I'm getting I don't have my safety switches anymore and I think I might have something to do with that the ground and some of them out can you please help me with
I have no idea how I can help you more than these video's... This is the best and most detailed way I can help people... Sorry!
Excellent. Very helpful.
Thank you 🙏