WEIRD Snake Genes Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
- This might be my weirdest video yet. But you'll still learn something about genetics. We're talking about some of the crazy stuff that happens when we produce an all white (or mostly white) snakes. Blue eyed lucys, black eyed lucys, ivorys and some other weird non-white ball pythons.
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I know you were rushing to get this genetics video filmed... but I was going to offer to send you a photo when you called, but you hung up the phone too fast. It was excellent to see you three times in a single day though, so I'm not complaining.
Glad you commented so I can sub to you as well!! ❤
@da420wizzard5 oh darling, you will be so disappointed. I am not a youtuber, I'm just a friend of Bob's.
Thanks for the scotch that evening!
He DOES go all-out for his videos!
Hi Amy!!
@@amybentley1291 I still support you !! ❤️
I love this use of footage from your holidays… and also the idea of Kent standing in the green room, just waiting… surrounded by snakes
Glad you liked it! 😉
😂😂😂😂 let me just drive across three states for a (allegedly) three minute visit.
Twice.
Plus fly two hours each way to show us Luna. My guy I am ROLLING with laughter.
Don't forget, I went back for scotch at the end! ;-)
This is a fun bit, but also what it's like to live in Texas.
Everything is 2 & a half hours away.
That's right! 😅
I've lived in Texas.
Be glad you're not in DFW today. It snowed here for the first time this winter last night. Our house's heater has just zapped my balls' humidity so I added damp moss and coconut fiber to their tanks, filled up their water bowls and turned their humidifiers up all the way for 15 minutes every hour and their humidity is still at 30% ☹️ I used a temp gun and they're at 85°F each but it's so dry. I've even taped off the screen with HVAC tape where the CHE's aren't. Any suggestions to help boost their humidity? ☹️
the part of 'lets go to Amy's' was great XD was a lot of driving though. what'd Kent do?
Kent just sat outside and waited for me. He got paid overtime that day.
Wow this video took some really wild turns. No Kents Corner either, think you will have to do 2 to make up for it. Thats the main reason I watch this channel, but don't tell past Bob that. 🤫
It was definitely a weird video!
Love this video!! I'm a bio major and I love when we talk about genetics in the reptile community!
That's great, I'm glad you loved it!
This was such a fun video. Thanks for the info and some laughs! Kent didn’t seen to mind watching the snakes while you were gone especially Handsome Dan hanging out.
He just sits outside in his corner the whole time ;-)
It wasn’t that he didn’t mind, more so he was frozen with fear the whole time lol
The cream/ivory colored Mohave you introduce around the 14:20 mark is gorgeous (your friends snake)! I am currently in the market for my first Ball and now I have to add one that looks like that to my "list".
Question for the next genetics video, or the hoarde: what does an all black + all white snake look like (example: super black pastel + pick a leucistic complex)?
That's a good question! There will be a livestream next week, ask that in the livestream and I'll talk about it :-)
all babies would get one gene from each parent
EX. mom is super black pastel, dad is super mojave
all babies would be black pastel and mojave. thick yellow dorsal stripe, lots of fading up the sides, distorted alien heads, deep rich black coloration on the dorsal
getting my first ball this week !
Congrats!
Another great gene video Bob. I'm now a little deeper down the Ball Python rabbit hole. 👍🏻
I love freeway. Look at those beautiful lines.
Yeah, it's one of my favorite morph combos
lmaoooo you made this vid 10 times more entertaining with the comedy. thanks for having some fun with ur vids
Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
So learning about the genes is somewhat interesting to me. But when I finally realize Amy lives in Utah, and he drives not once, but twice to help educate us, had me rolling on the floor! My son actually asked me what was I listening to?😂 after that, I was just enjoying the whole video and totally lost track of learning anything. Then you got on a plane to Seattle 😂😂😂 thank you Bob for always entertaining me!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😉
The lengths you will go for the Hoard 🌩️⚡️Of Keepers! Darwin is Enchi, YB or Gravel het Pied. Now I understand why the put the “or” in there. Genetics are so cool!!🐍❤️🐍
Yes, gravel is the other one that looks exactly like yellow belly and asphalt. Pretty much indistinguishable in their single gene forms :-)
One of my favorite things about BELs is the little flashlight trick you can do. A banana morphed BEL's eyes will glow red but a Mojaves won't. Once a breeder told me that and showed me, I was stunned. I LOVE how complex BPs can be!
Yeah the black light trick is pretty cool
Your logo always made me think of a green tree python, you should get one!
Love your videos! Luna, my butter mystic, is an all white snake. I noticed she had a faint pinkish pattern when she was a hatchling, but it has since completely faded with age.
Another great video, Bob. You had me chuckling the whole time. Thank you! I needed that.
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
Love the thought that went into this video to make the travel scenes happen... good stuff dude.,..
Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Hey bob , love you videos ! Ive always been a snake lover and have kept boas, ball pythons and king snakes , after an 8 year break from keeping, i got a newly adult spider het pied and your videos have helped me really improve my husbandry and care , so thanks ! I cringe knowing how little i used to know
I'm so glad the videos have helped, congrats on that new snake!
Thanks! She's doing great so far.
Hey Bob! Thank you for all the content you share! I have a suggestion for you: what about a video on how to prepare in advance to keep your reptiles warm in case of a power outage. I live in Florida and hurricanes are part of our reality. Thank you!
I've talked about it in live streams before but a dedicated video is a good idea :-)
thank you!
@@GreenRoomPythons
I know this is sad as hell but I suffer from really bad anxiety and your videos legit help. Even though this video has 0 info that I really need as just a typical owner I still try to glean whatever I can from it. NGL, with Brian gone😢 my reptile youtube grows smaller so I sincerely appreciate your posts.
Edit: I sincerely wish I could post a pic of 1 of my boys. I am 95% sure of his genes, I rescued him and can only compare online pics, but it would be great to have someone definitively say "yea, thats....."
Holy FNG S!!! Most people won't believe this but I posted the last edit before I watched the "last" trip to Amys...you have my boy in your right hand!!!! I was told he was a ghost Mojave...is that what that is!?? Holy crap...what are the chances of me asking you about genetics and you freaking post a pic of what mine looks like!??😂I don't care if TH-cam community dosent believe me..it happened sequentially exactly like my post and edits. That's wild!!!
I'm glad these videos are helping you! Any snake is not a ghost Mojave but he definitely looks that way, especially over video :-)
Love your explanations man you explain very well, so it’s easy to understand. I’ve watched all the stuff, but it never hurts to go over it all again and again and again lol I watch your videos from start to finish more than any other TH-camr I think
Aw, thank you so much! I appreciate that. Glad these are helpful for you :-)
My man said “hwhite” lol love ya Bob
Yeah, I get called out for that a lot 😅
Nice to see you missed our Ice Storm of the century...You should come to Puyallup, WA for the PACNWRS end of January.
I would love to but I'll be prepping for another trip at that time. Maybe next year
That was a fun trip Bob, and interesting genetic information as well. I'm sure I'll watch it more than once. Love you
Thanks Mom, love you too!
I love Vegas! I go there every year!😃
Dash is beautiful, I really like his pattern. Thanks for the video.
Thank you!
And then you've got genes where one copy is fine, but two copies are fatal. 😵💫 Thanks for this video!
Yes, that's another weird thing!
I'm so early!! Yay!! Love you Bob! Thanks for everything! I got a fat full grown classic male because of you!! Couldn't have asked for a better baby
Sorry! **Normal** :p
That's great, congratulations!
@@da420wizzard5 I actually prefer the term "classic" because I don't like "normal" things, typically. Lol Normal sounds too boring, to me lol
I also have a full grown "classic" ball python and he's the best pet ever 😊
lets here it for Handsome Dan!
He was just being a fly-on-the-wall 🙂
Hey I am new to the channel. I've watched all videos. I'd love to see more. Bob, I Love how you simplify such a heavy subject. Thank you for the series.
Thanks so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
This is really good stuff. Funny as hell and good teaching!
Thank you so much!
The video I've been waiting for!! Genetics videos are always welcome😍 lol and I loved the commitment to the bit!
Glad you liked it!!
Hey Bob, I’m getting my first Ball python (she’s a pastel ivory morph) and i was wondering if you could help me think of some names because i’m really struggling to think of ANY. I love watching your videos all throughout the day, thanks for putting a smile on my face! ❤
That's a great question for the live stream next week! It's happening on Thursday at 5:00 p.m. Pacific time :-)
@@GreenRoomPythons Ok Bob that sounds great!
You crack me up Bob lol great idea for a video
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Very very very good explanation 👍👍👍
Thank you!
🙂
I love this video!!!
Although I'm still no wiser 😂
I have a mystic mojave yellowbelly male white with a little patten and stripe, who has blueish eyes, who I will be putting to a female butter later this year. I'm hoping they will produce some all white blue-eyed leucisti snakelets at the end of the year... fingers crossed lol ❤
Best of luck!
@@GreenRoomPythons thank you. Of course I will update you on any progress in the future. I may also be asking when is the best time to introduce the male to the female soon 😂💗
Loved this video. Learned something and laughed at the same time :)
Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This was hilarious Bob😂 Such dedication to your videos! I love that canyon in Arizona, you're lucky that you drove thru 4 times in one day!😉 But really this was the most helpful genetics video I've ever watched. Thank you! 😄🙏
I'm glad you enjoyed it and I'm glad it was helpful for you as well!
I love learning about ball python genes because I got my first one in October thinking she was a normal and she turned out to be butter/lesser! According to people on Reddit at least lol. Can’t wait to see Kata’s(?) babies and learn more!! Thanks for the lesson Bob!
As a person who live in the southeast seeing the desert landscape is exciting to me lol
I was just trying to explain this to my other about our Oodle, our pastel ball python. Let's just say I'll be putting on any videos from you! Cause you explain everything! I absolutely appreciate you. Thank you for being so inspiring 🙏 😊
Thank you so much, that's a really nice compliment!
So a super fire do not mix well with other morphs, except: albino(red eye), scaleless head(missing some scale on the hed), scaleless(missing scale completely), microscale(missing scale on the head, collors and pattern, ...) and super microscale(missing scale completely, collor and pattern.) and chimera(lucky if you get one)
So it is a end of line breeding in terms of morph to be visible?
For most lucistic snakes, yes. There could be certain genes that interact with the snake to do something else but generally the white morph combo covers everything
HI Bob, I'm just trying to breed Blue Eyed Leucistics. My female (Lucille Ball Python) is a Super Lesser, and her mate (Lou) is a Mojave Lesser. They are both pure white to my eye and on camera, though she has enlarged eyes. They are definitely whiter than Kayda (sp?)
Yes, both of those combos would make a whiter snake than an ivory. Ivory's are usually sort of dirty white and they have that yellow stripe on their back. You'll make some really nice white snakes!
We just lost Brian 😢 the community just lost one of its pillars 😢
He left a great legacy for many of us to pick up and carry.
Awesome vid! I LOL’d a LOT 😂🤣
Thanks Tarra! Glad you liked it ;-)
Love nerdin'-out with Bob and his snakes 🐍 Thank you ❤🤓. Its note taking time.
I'm glad you enjoyed the nerd stuff!
Oh my gosh I love this video so much! I did not previously care at all about fancy bp morphs, but this is one of my favorite videos. So much fun!
That's a really nice compliment, thank you so much!
@@GreenRoomPythons well deserved!
With all this travel you may want to invest in some teleportation technology 😀 Great video. Always great to see the different ways to approach and educate.
And to answer your question as I have produced many Bel's the whitest come from either Mojave + Lesser or from Bamboo + Lesser. And you missed a really good Combo that comes form the Bel complex that's not even all white..... Purple passion......
Again great video.
❤❤❤❤
-Jack
Yeah purple passion is really cool and I completely forgot about the bamboo lesser combo. Thanks for weighing in on that!
Awesome video bob ! 👍
Thank you!
snakes!!
please make boa care guide! 😊
It's on the list :-)
I love all your videos but the way you say white kills me 😂 it reminds me of Stewie Griffen 😂 all love!🤟🏽
Thanks, I get called out for that a lot 😅
THANK YOU. I NEEDED THIS SO MUCH
I'm glad it was helpful!
Hello Bob you videos are so well done sir. So I have a video idea for you. Why not talk about the different nutritional values of rats, mice, ASF, chicks, Quail and reptile links. Anything that I missed? Rabbits? Guinea pigs?
You have a few different species of snakes to talk about with the different nutrition also. Which is interesting.
Why I say this is for ball pythons as a pet when they get to adult it would be nice to see how feeding different pray would be for health and weight management.
Take care Bob an thanks for interesting entertainment and information.
That's a great idea for a video, Thanks!
@@GreenRoomPythons
Cool my kids will be excited when you do it sir
I don't know much about the Russo genre in the BEL complex, but, in my opinion, the combos with Butter/Lesser make the "whitest" snakes. The super Butter /Lesser are stark white but tend to have small eyes (as someone else mentioned), with Mojave they are pure white with normal eyes. Then, the super Mojave are all white but with a grayish colored head.
Yeah, I didn't even think to mention eye size in these combos. That would have been a good thing to cover. Maybe in a future video
Is the paradox pattern possibly co-dom in the accurate scientific sense? Would you be able to discuss this in a video?
Yeah, Paradox just refers to anything that pops up visually on a snake that you can't attribute to a specific morph. It's a randomly occurring change of color and/or pattern usually just in small areas of the animal. I have a freeway girl with some really cool paradoxing on her :-)
Great video!
Thanks!
As for the whitest BEL, I believe most people will say it’s Super Lessers or possibly the Mojave - Lessers.
I have a Super Lesser BEL and she’s just as pure white as can be unless she’s getting closer to her shed cycle and then she gets that dingy yellow look up through the cycle completion.
Colin Robinson! 🧛♂That's great. I named a snake Vlad and he is the only one who has bit me ;)
That's a great name!
My favorite name I came up with is from a local North East Ohio car dealer named Bob Serpentini. I named my first ball python Bob Serpent Tiny.......he was really small when I got him. @@GreenRoomPythons
I'm hoping for a blue eyed Lucy from my lesser ghost and my jigsaw. From what I have read and been told they should be able to produce one. I think it's the jigsaw that has the mojave gene
That's great, best of luck!
I have a yellowbelly het albino, what I dont know is where shes got her very faded spots on her neck and head from. (Mother was ivory and father albino)
The faded spots are probably some flaming, which yellow belly does :-)
@@GreenRoomPythons they are quite prominent, especially on top of the head, its like someone used an eraser on half the head pattern and coloring. Makes her real identifyable should I decide to get another yellowbelly :p
I mostly understand the genetics, because i already have experience with Agaporniden.
I only need to know which morph is what, Dominant, recessive etc. Anybody Have a link with that information?
You can find lots of information about morphs, including calculators for crossing morphs on morphmarket
Morph Market is a great place to go to learn about all that.
Interesting. Do you know how many morphs there are (not counting combos) like: enchi, clown, OD, pinstripe (that’s 4 morphs). 500? 5000?
There are a few hundred probably but I don't know the number exactly
Just for those of you not aware, the drive from Burbank to the more inhabited parts of Utah is ten to fourteen hours in the car IF you don't hit Vegas at the wrong time. : D
(the amount of planning that went into shooting this- Man that is IMPRESSIVE. Filmmaking isn't easy!)
I could contest that my Finnley is the Whitest Snek, as an individual- He's a Super Fire Black Eyed Lucy and the only color on him is milk white splotches against snow white, and they're only visible at certain points during his growth-and-shed cycle. Sometimes they aren't there at all. But of course, I might be a leeeetle biased! hahah.
Yes superfire is extremely variable. It's interesting to see what comes out of those snakes. I'm glad you enjoyed this video!
Great video, Bob. I've heard of tons of genes and morphs but I only know what a handful of them look like. I wish there was a video that names the genes then showed snakes or pics of snakes and explained what the genes were doing to the appearance, and it would just go through a buttload of genes. A good video series like that would probably get a ton of views. BTW, I'm worried about this channel's impact on the environment
Yes this video had quite a larger carbon footprint than normal! That is a good idea for video series. There was a guy who was doing videos like that but he's not on TH-cam anymore. There are still videos out there from him but a lot of the information is questionable. That would be a super helpful series though.
I'd like to introduce you to this thing called the internet someday. It just may save you a little on the travel expenses.
I'll look into it one of these days! ;-)
8:30 Technically, you *can* have three copies of an allele (or only one), but only if you have a chromosome anomaly. For example, people with Down Syndrome have three copies of every gene on chromosome 21, and therefore could have three distinct alleles for any of those genes. Now, Down Syndrome is a big chromosome anomaly affecting lots of genes, and has pretty obvious effects (at least if it's non-mosaic), but you can also have smaller ones that only affect part of a chromosome, and those can be harder to detect. There are people who've grown up just feeling a bit different, maybe having some learning difficulties or minor physical issues that went unexplained, and then someday they happen to get a genetic test and discover they have a small chromosome anomaly. In an animal, you'd probably never spot these milder anomalies phenotypically. But for the most part, it's safe to assume most animals you're breeding don't have a chromosome anomaly.
Yes, but definitely did not have time In this video to get into all the possible abnormalities that could happen ;-)
OMG I LOVE that his name is Colin Robinson! ❤ #WWDITS
Such a great name right???
This was hilarious. Russo and lesser tend to make the whitest snakes. Super lessers can also make snakes with larger or smaller than normal eyes, leaa frequently with super russos. If you outcross that snake so it's not the zame gene, the eyes tuen back to normal looking. As far as we know, that doesn't cause the snake any discomfort, it's just visual. With the yb complex, specter is there 1 gene that can be distinguished in single gene form.
Thanks for all that info! I didn't even think to mention the big eyes that happens sometimes with these combos
Loli think i may be a little too obsessed with ball pythons. But i love them. I've never minded the eyes because it doesn't affect the snake as far as i know.
Im here, Im here, Im here!!
Nicely done!
hey I have a leopard gravel male and a pastel highway female what will they make I can pull it up on the calculators
If you go to North market, you'll see what all the combos would be on their calculator. But you'll basically get combos of highways and maybe some super gravel combos
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It's lucky you had a boring drive. I've heard that area is actually bat country and that you shouldn't stop there.
😅
I have a pastel ball python that has green eyes with the slit slim pupils but all the ones I’ve seen on the internet have black eyes. Could there be something more to the pastel? She looks like a normal pastel otherwise
Some ball pythons have black eyes but most of them are light enough to see their pupils, pastel included
How long did this video take to make air you made amazing ass time isn’t Utah like 9 hours away from Burbank? And that’s just 1 way! 🤯😳
Right? It was a loooong day
@@GreenRoomPythons mannnn that’s crazy. 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️ you’re the master!
@@650RepzOFC 😅😉
Boom baby
Hi I'm just wondering for a heating pad where must u put the temp theremeter in the cage for most accurate results
The thermometer hygrometer can go on the cold side. You'll want to measure the warm side with a temp gun.
And for a ball python is a heat mat or heat lamp better
@@LironKatzoff It depends on the enclosure and sometimes you may need both. Check out my ball python care guide - that will help you out a lot.
Where u from bob? Im gonna b in Colorado
I'm a little further west, Los Angeles
As the mom of a white super Russo het Clown I am fascinated! ❤
Super Russo makes a nice looking white snake!
Does your family call you Robert?
Super funny video by the way. The reptile hobby needed a smile today!
Thank you, yes today was not a great day for the reptile hobby. I'm glad you like the video... My sister is the only one who calls me Robert - and a couple of friends :-)