Top Leveling Methods :: Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
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- Let's dig into Max-Leveling/Under-Leveling, 5-5-5/5-5-1, 3 Max Method.
Here I combine the core methods that will make your build as efficient (i.e. POWERFUL) as possible.
My character personally uses Under Leveling to 25, Efficient Leveling, 5-5-5, and 3 (Major Skills) Max(xed out). All but 2 attributes are 100- leaving Personality at 60 and Luck at base 50.
David Stewart's "Oblivion: Intro to Efficient Leveling"
• Oblivion: Intro to Eff...
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Please come back and do some playthroughs, you have so much high quality and potential and your voice is awesome as well
I suddenly had an urge to play Oblivion, which I haven't seriously played in years. I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel. Your narration is excellent and I'm looking forward to this Oblivion walk-through I keep reading about! Keep up the good work.
Oblivion skill 100 and a beautiful voice. Thanks to you I finally created a character I'm proud efficient leveling is the only way to play this game. Mind blown.
Very well made video! Good job! Your explanations were on point and I'm excited to do a level 30 max character someday.
Thank you thank you! I was looking for this subject exactly!
Efficient levelling is what I’ve been doing. Right now, I’m currently slogging through the middle levels of heavy armour and the nightmare that is 70 Armorer, but I’ve got a good build and I’m pretty confident it will work out for me.
If I had any advice for anyone, it’s that Restoration is STUPID good, for nearly any build. It is at bare minimum a useful skill for any class, and if you build correctly it can turn you into a beast very quickly.
Wow, 70 Armorer sounds intense! It's funny how you can spam some skills while others require so much time investment.
And I'd have to agree- Restoration is amazing! My favorite spell is Heal Other because I always get attached to my horse.
NerdyGamerGal 70 is training every level by five levels. It’s major in my build, because I’m rushing Endurance. The only sticky part is getting to 71. After you accomplish that, you can talk to your trainers about finding the argonian, who can take you to 76. Once you do that, you use conjuration to summon a weapon (or armour piece) and then restore it to 125 percent.
Armor and block skills are easy to level, just get the staff of everscamp. Also good for weapon skills, hand-to-hand, destruction, restoration, basically any targeted magic, as well as armorer. Punch the scamps or cast fury on them and just stand there and let em hit you
You should have done heavy armour for your endurance major.
I picked blade, heavy armour, conjuration, illusion, restoration, acrobatics and marksman, because you can control all of them, and they’re relatively quick, except marksman. I maybe should have picked sneak for the agility major because you can rubber-band your controller to level it.
I just found this video after deciding to play oblivion again during a lull in work thanks to (insert 2020 event here), after not having played it since skyrim came out, and holy crap is this a nice explanation to a mechanic I never really cared to learn when I was younger. Thanks for this!
why not just say covid 19?
Please keep making videos , if you can. Your content is Great! It's nice to find fresh stuff for Oblivion😎👍🙆❤ We're a big audience still playing all the classic Bethesda games.
I have used efficient leveling before. Stopping at 25 is a great idea! I played 100s of hours in Oblivion and never thought of this before. Planning it now and having lots of fun. Cheers!
That is awesome!!! I love my besthesda classics and hope to have some Fallout 3 or maybe New Vegas at some point. I haven't played Morrowind so that maybe be a fun series 😁
@@NerdyGamerGal Well, if you do decide to do that, I'm sure it'd be very entertaining. You definitely have the chops to be a successful TH-camr!
i just...install the "+5 attributes on lvl up" mod and call it a day...
Unfortunately not everyone plays on pc
small pp
@@tankervendetta2848 but big brain
+5 to all attributes is a bit broken in its own way - for example it makes no sense if you're levelling up from using combat skills and get +5 to willpower or intelligence as a reward.
There's a significantly more balanced mod out there that simply carries over unspent points to the next level up. With that mod you only get bonuses in attributes you're actually using and levelling, so it's much more sane and far more in the spirit of the game, but you don't ever feel like you've had any progress stripped away just because you levelled up. It's also very easy to achieve a 5-5-5 with just a little thought, with none of the risk of overdoing or underdoing it by not keeping exact count of what skill increases you've had.
Also I'd recommend using a retroactive health from endurance mod, because health scaling is completely broken... but that's a whole other thing lol
@Diego Dillon Diego is definitely not an alt account trying to make it seem like a safe site😳
Great video by the way!
Thank you so much!
I just finished leveling another toon using the 5/5/1 method. Without using exploits and avoiding jail time, I managed to get him to level 53. I used the felldew trick to get most attributes past 100. It took 40 hours!
Update: I got theis character to level 56 after reading the Oghma Infinium (Path of Steel)
Thanks this helped alot david Stewart's vid helped too but after watching them and playing for a bit I finally understood it unfortunately I over leveled a bit and put 3 will attributes in major and athletics in major too so I won't do that again but thanks again I appreciate it it helped alot
That's good to hear, David Stewart's videos helped me early on too! I actually mixed and matched my majors and minors to suit how I was leveling but yeah athletics can be brutal!!!
@@NerdyGamerGal thanks looking forward to seeing ur next video
Wish you’d come back man love your videos
I'm swaggin out with my level 49 efficiently leveled breton with 105 percent reflect damage 100 percent magic resistance, 33 percent reflect spell using estucheon of chorrol necklace of swords, ring of the iron fist, and the mundane ring. I also have the sword of swag which does a lot of damage.
Whoa that's insane! 😳 Some of those sound familiar, but did you enchant some of them yourself? I've never really gotten into enchanting but wanted to this time around!
@@NerdyGamerGal nah I found all of them. You cant enchant an item with reflect damage and I'm actually using chillrend not the sword of swag unfortunately. How far are you on your character?
Nice! I hit level 25 so now I can start quests and stuff without worrying about efficient leveling. Now that I'm maxed I can start collecting the leveled items
@@NerdyGamerGal yeah I know that feeling when you're done with the leveling then you can start questing it's really nice. Are you doing the feldew exploit?
I'm not doing it this time since it's mostly for max leveling right? I wanted to keep my level at 25 although I'd like to try it with another character to see what the difference would be
What a beautiful voice! It would be awesome hear you talking about the (simply perfect) Morrowind leveling 😁 And thanks for the video.
Thank you! I would love to play Morrowind one day and really dig into its mechanics!
I really like your videos
I use 5-5-5 and usually stop around level 22-25. If everything goes perfectly you can max 5 attributes by 22. (That also assumes you are taking race and sign into consideration) I like that you called out David's video as well as he breaks it down well too. THe only thing I typically decide on when I make a new character is whether I am going to get my 5-5-5 first then use my major skills as the ones I want to use or the opposite play the game normally then when I have 5-5-5 use other skills to get 10 for the level.
Why the hell you do not have more subscribers?
Have you considered doing a play/ walkthrough?
Yes!! I can't wait to start a walkthrough! I'm trying to complete my "perfect character" so I can focus on the quests and not the tedious leveling process.
I had a few setbacks along the way, I'm hoping my mistakes allow me to provide a good amount of helpful tips as a follow up to this leveling guide.
How long and what level are you on the perfect character? I also play oblivion lol
I love finding gems in the trash can... youtube is horrible, your'e amazing!
I always max out endurance right away because you get a percentage of health for every level based on your endurance stat. the earlier you have it maxed out the more overall health you will end up having
sleeping is not that big of a problem. There are only 3 quests in the game where you need to sleep: joining the dark brotherhood, anvil recommendation (mages guild) and an unexpected voyage. You can easily do these at level 1 and then never have to sleep again.
I finally understand, I couldn't figure it out from the UESP lol
I loved this video
I wish you had more subscribers. You have a lot of talent.
I've found the best place to train combat for leveling is in Rosentia's house in leyawiin. You can get the 4 scamps agro onto you and turn the difficulty down and train block, light, or heavy armour pretty afk. You can train attack skills on them too ofc. Most of my time spent efficient level is done in her house.
Edit - 4 scamps. Not 3
I love doing this and thinking about it from the perspective of it happening within in the narrative. Rosentia is like "I'm cursed with this staff that makes these smelly noisy monsters follow me around and now there's this person barging in here and punching them to death for hours"
If the hero could tell others after enough people start showing up she realizes she can charge for time but instead the hero just switches to using fireballs.
They could form a relationship like Squidward and Spongebob with Hero constantly returning with zeal and Rosentia having a double view of them as both another nuisance and her only source of friendship in her isolation.
i'll have to remember this for my current character build (are the scamos unkillable by any chance?)
@@OhioWolf94 you kill them but they respawn. It's the curse of the ever-scamp!
I tend to plan a little bit and then try and use a variety of specifically enchanted outfits to buff out the mistakes. I call it the close enough build. Aka less efficient, efficient leveling.
Love it! As a kid I never learned much about enchanting and making spells or even special items (outside of the Thieves and Assassin's Guild gear) so I totally obsess over the character building 😋
My system definitely gets super tedious!
Luck had an impact in Morrowind. But it doesn't seem to do squat in Oblivion. I'm glad I came across your channel so I could stop with the 5:5:1 nonsense that Morrowind had ingrained in me.
I'm really looking forward to experiencing this in Morrowind! I enjoyed the builds you could make in Fallout 3/4 and would love to see Luck in Elder Scrolls!
I have a cool trick to get all attributes to 100 including luck, you just have to do the +5+5+5 method until you get endurance/strength/intelligence to 100, then you do the +5+5+1 method for your next 2 attributes and on the last 2, you just gotta do a bit of math and not level your 2 attributes by 5 each time, everyone says its impossible to get luck to 100 but they forget you can level attributes by 1/2/3/4/5 if you need to, and you do, it just takes liike 3 minutes of math, and also dont waste any major skill points after you get their respective attributes to 100, it helps to make your major skills all passive skills you dont use when adventuring. Thief sign helps, but its not really needed.
What made you start making oblivion videos? Bored waiting for ES6?
It's mainly just that Oblivion requires more puzzle piecing and planning with the leveling and I love that! I also like making builds for Fallout 3 & 4 so maybe I'll do that at some point.....
I would love to see ES6 though. If they're taking their time just to make it awesome then I'm okay waiting too 😁
I've tried every way and decided picking skills you won't use is best in the tutorial/sewers and staying level 1 is optimal until you reach 75 on your minors that you use.
Eg if you want to be a mage, give your guy armour and weapons as major skills, then never equip weapons or armour and only use magic, but also use something like armourer for a major skill so when you want to rank up you can go and repair a bunch of armour you looted before selling it. Important to use some major skills that are tied to endurance so when you rank up you can put 5 points into endurance every level until maxed out. Always make your class creation the opposite of what you want to be
For a mage, intelligence and endurance until maxed then willpower then speed.
If you do this strategy make sure you don't have any mod on which auto levels you up even while awake otherwise you'll accidentally level up.
Essentially staying a level 1 pure until 75 minors...... that makes so much sense. A couple lower minor skills made things a bit difficult as I sped through leveling
you could go for a 4 max method as well and be able to reach that 30 limit for the leveled loot
I have considered that because I think there may be another enemy at level 30 (it may have been some type of wraith or something) but I couldn't relocate that information
which questlines do you usually do?
ellen looking amazing ❤❤❤
Im thinking of creating a wood elf archer though they have low endurance and strength females having lower endurance than males but more personality might wanna focus on getting +5 on the lower stats Endurance and strength that a good idea? agility affects bow damage though
Totally! I would start with Endurance, Agility, and maybe throw Speed in there for dodging. I always start with Endurance since it's the only attribute that doesn't have a retroactive effect and Agility adds to fatigue and helps lower the chance of being staggered as well
Just started stealth archer build
(I know this is an old video, so no expectation for an answer)
I feel like oblivions leveling system is really interesting, but unintentionally unintuitive. Like, needing to put your major skills into things you don't plan on doing. So the whole idea of character classes gets put on its head, where your major skills are your least used skills.
Plus, needing to manage not gaining skill points when you dont want them.
If the system was designed around efficient leveling and thus less counterproductive, it would have been a really cool way to level a character. As it stand, it just causes too much stress (for me) to fight the system so much.
Still, if I decide to give efficient leveling a try, I'll go back to this video again ❤
I usually play a mage type and 5-5-5 max Endurance, Intelligence and Willpower by level 10, by then, I can max all of my Intelligence skills (Alchemy, Conjuration and Mysticism) then I max my Willpower skills (Destruction, Alteration and Restoration) under Endurance I max my Armorer and I am good to go, first thing I do is go to Cheydinhal after that mage quest, go to Dark Fissure and create my black soul gem, bank it for later. Then after getting a few more grand soul gems, back to the Dark Fissure, create more dark soul gems, fill them near the Imperial City at Vilverin and the Well Spring cave about 10 filled per few days, use the Chironasium to fortify Luck to 100, Strength to 100 then I am free to work Speed and Agility 5-5 and 1 to Personality (as a dump stat).
Hasn't failed me yet!
I play on PS4
Favorite race & star ? I use Wendelbek to turn stones for +24 Magic. Do you still play ?
I swear that at one time, the attributes scaled beyond increments of 5 for leveling up. Years ago my builds would get 7 or 8 points upon leveling up. Now I only gain a maximum of 5. Did the game change with updates?
I don't recall ever seeing anything past a +5 and I think I got the game near launch. That would be interesting to look into though, it would definitely change things!
I like needing a pen and paper when I efficient level
Totally, I do the same thing with other rpgs and it's fun plotting out a character build!
Damn I’m level 14 but I don’t want to start over … this is my first play through
I definitely wouldn't worry too much. You can refine your leveling as you go or just enjoy the story- the difficulty slider is always there in the settings in case it gets too imbalanced.
Such a great game though, enjoy!
@@NerdyGamerGal thanks for the response I just subscribed. Put a million hours into Skyrim over last ten years and feel dumb I haven’t tried oblivion until now it’s so good! Look forward to following your channel 😊
I noticed in Oblivion that doing these 5-5-1 techniques for leveling are what make playing the game on hard possible. If I accidentally increase the skill in one thing too many times it can totally screw up my build, and this vidya really helped explain how the leveling it works and why it's so important to not screw it up so thank you :)
I looked at the sub count and wondered why do you not have more subscribers? I thought about this and I think it's because it specifically says 'NerdyGamerGal".
Not that ppl don't want to subscribe because you're a gal, I think it's because it comes off as part of what your channel is about. Ppl don't really care whether someone is a guy or girl if they do things well/entertaining/are informative, which this video shows has all of these things; these are technical vidyas in a way, specifically the type of people who are clicking this vidya only care about how helpful/cool the information is. If someone is sexist they really won't care so long as the video is informative, but when they see the channel name it probably irks them as being related to identity politics or something like that. Not saying you should cater yourself for them, but you catch more flies with honey. You'd be surprised how ppl can change their minds when given the chance.
I think people get turned off if you make your own personal attributes part of the channel/content. From this video, you don't mention anything related to identity. But it says it upfront in the channel name.
Idk if this makes sense or not, but I hope you get what I mean. You're clearly not some identity hinged person from what I can tell from this really informative vidya, so why make it part of the channel's name?
I'm definitely to blame for not keeping up with a good schedule so I think that's a large part of it.... but that's actually a really interesting point. I made the channel page a bit before actually posting videos; the name definitely felt a little corny but something clear and to the point. I think I kept it generic so I'd have flexibility. (I was actually originally thinking of being "Geeky Gamer Gal" as G³ seemed a bit catchy and easy to remember, but if I'm being a stickler on definitions Nerdy seemed more accurate).
Women definitely have the privilege of standing out solely because of their gender so it's a bit of a cheap shot and may come off wrong as you described. I want to think this through as rebranding/renaming across platforms can be difficult. I hadn't really considered any other titles 🤔
Used to make myself miserable trying to optimize characters. The fact it’s semi required is the best and worst thing about Oblivion lol
I totally agree! I really enjoyed perfecting my character but it took a long time and I didn't start the game until my character was lvl 25 so.... it's hard to imagine doing it all over again 😅
You’ll blow up:)
But is it fun? I am trying to make an archer and I am thinking of making an efficient levelled character. I am thinking of trying out only putting 2 of my major attributes as marksman and light armour, just so that I level quite slowly, and then get endurance to max, like you said, but then just do whatever and enjoy myself. Because it looks agonising to have to plan THAT MUCH.
Seriously, I feel that! It's nice to know a couple basics then just chill. I like trying to push the game to it's limits- so for me I enjoy it like a puzzle. At the same time, it does take away from the excitement getting level ups here and there and getting to see which bonuses you got. It can totally become a chore
NerdyGamerGal I did efficient levelling on my character and got level 100 on everything except personality and luck by level 26. Efficient levelling is quite interesting honestly.
With each video I watch about leveling an Oblivion character, it becomes increasingly obvious that: if you understand how this system works, you are absolutely unable explain it to someone who doesn't.
It's like someone who is good at math thinking "oh, it's so easy you just bink boink and flim flam, isn't it great?!" While everyone else around you is confused. In order to explain how this works, you have to get why most people think it's broken from THEIR point of view, and be able to explain it how THEY would understand it, not how YOU understand it.
That is SO TRUE!!! My current videos are aimed at people who already kinda understand the system but I really want to make an in depth beginner's guide... Needless to say I haven't been brave enough to tackle that one yet 😅 if I do it at all I want it to be good!
It took watching videos and reading certain articles too many times to count to finally get it to click and it's a lot for me to remember all at once
If you could do that, you would wreck civilization. Go for it!!!
2 years late but ... I think most people think it's broken from THEIR point of view because they think Major skills are the ones you use. They think it's better to buff up at the start of the game and this game really lets you experiment with builds. When they level they can put 2 or 3 points in any attribute but they can't get +5s and eventually, enemies outpace them. If you change the name to Leveling skills, efficient leveling can make sense. Pick 7 skills that you don't need. Make sure 2 skills are Endurance skills and use those to level. Play the game with your minor skills.
Funnily efficient leveling becomes a non-factor on max difficulty
Conjuration & Illusion are king. " efficient leveling becomes a non-factor on max difficulty" It could be done but you'll always be soft and squishy.
I actually made my "perfect character" in order to one day try max difficulty, but yeah I'm realizing that I would need to work on more magic, enchanting, and other methods alongside that
In morrowind I used 5-5-1 but since there is level scaling in oblivion I'm going to use 5-5-5 but give luck favoured attribute.
I thought I heard Luck carries more weight in Morrowind, it's a bummer it doesn't do so much in Oblivion. I wanted to play Morrowind at some point so maybe I should try luck out
Why does she sound like Rose's VO from Voxus's let's read homestuck?
Oblivions leveling system is almost the same as in Morrowind, slightly simplified. but I didn´t heard any complaints about that in Morrowind. There must be something else. I guess the enemy levelscaling in Oblivion was harder and unforgiving. If you face a troll instead a wolf that´s a sudden spike in difficulty.
Yeah, I agree. Most of the complaints I see are in reference to the level scaling which can leave you in a really tough spot if you don't level right. I haven't played Morrowind yet but I'm really interested to see how they compare!
To any new players scared by this video: attributes are generally weak and don't affect much, play the game normally and you wouldn't miss much, vids like these are meant for abaolute minmaxerd that orefer to run in circles casting spells than playing the game
Yes! It is neither a requirement nor a recommendation for first-time players. It can serve to explain why the game gets progressively more difficult for most but ultimately that is why the difficulty bar is there to be used at your discretion
Man I feel dumb. I'm doing my second playthrough and still don't get it. I'm doing premade classes and never tried to do a custom class.
the leveling system is dumb and bad not you, the game is a masterpiece but the leveling in this game is so bad
Let's get you monetized! Get you to 1000 subs, M'lady.
Aw thanks 🥰 I definitely want to be more consistent with content and I'm going to be starting a full walkthrough soon!
@@NerdyGamerGal Ever play with the mods Requiem with 3tweaks for Skyrim?
They're pretty niche, but I think you'd appreciate trying to optimize your build.
That sound awesome, I'll have to check it out! Is it available for xbox? I've used Ordinator and that was pretty cool for certain builds
@@NerdyGamerGal Nah, these are PC exclusive. I wanna build a rig myself when I decide to spend the money. And you don't believe in PC Master Race?
The passive bonus of disease immunity (even from COVID-19) plus the active ability of increasing satisfaction when turned on and running Ultra Modded Skyrim make the PC Race the choice for anyone looking to make a God Mode build.
I love these videos, but this is why although Skyrim get's a lot of annoyance from fans because it ditched a traditional level system in favor of a more streamlined one - it is the superior system.
I am A HUGE fan of these games and Morrowind is my favorite in terms of scope and story, Skyrim is the better experience overall. Traditionally, You are in a constant "meta" game with the mechanics to get the best character available to you. Tagging skills and working out how to best overcome the mechanics. This leads less to you "Roleplaying" a character and just playing a spreadsheet. The game is asking you to roleplay a character and come at it as a sandbox, but in reality unless you use some form of magic, or cheese it's systems you have to make compromises and you end up having to plan your skills and attributes rather than just play the game. Not to say the systems are completely useless, far from it. Without them completely you are just playing a block of wood. But RPG Stat mechanics are a replacement for real world mechanics to simulate skills before computers had the power to just perform them. Now they have become MAth problems to solve so you can MIN MAX and cheat the system rather than ROLEPLAY as a character. Like Diablo, or MMOs
An Example: Acrobatics. Now that skill is immensely useful in a traditional Turn-Based mechanic as seen in JRPGs as it directly affects your Evade chances. So the opponent needs to roll a higher number to actually hit you before calculating damage numbers. So you can say play a circus performer that uses ranged abilities to hit the back row and stay alive. But in a 3d Action Rpg, you can literally just move out of range with the tap of a button or push of a thumbstick so... its essentially useless. Sure it might unlock a backflip or something, but its entirely situational and has little function. You can add it in to please the Stat Crunching lovers, but in a modern game, you don't need to simulate the acrobatics with data, you just push "Roll" and your character rolls.
Kingdom Come Deliverance is the most obvious case of trying to balance traditional Skills Mechanics and the Player's controls. The Combat requires a lot of input and realtime situational awareness to be able to actually fight, but... There's a skill system working alongside that leads to the opponent teleporting to block blows or just straight up make mincemeat of you. It disengages you from the game. Sorry, but it does. Some like the challenge, but in reality? Most players will switch off.
If it was turn based, people will grind and do all kinds of stuff within the stat mechanic to see what works, but a 3d Action game, people swing a sword and expect it to deal damage and move forward. Sure there may be tricky bosses and
monsters, but there are other ways to beat them. Such as Witcher 3.
Can never get 5-5-5, always get 5-2-1.
When the game can be broken in so many different ways, like pushing chameleon, reflect damage, or spell absorption past 100, why does leveling efficiently matter?
I think for many play types it doesn't, especially given the simplicity of the difficulty slider....but I'm a numbers girl and given the intended method of improving your character (leveling up) I like to see how I can push those numbers to the limit.
I've never done much in terms of breaking the game- outside of the duping glitch in the past, but I would love to make videos on those in the future, they look fun!
Quest guide by level please!
Yeah I think that sounds fun! I'm working on a couple videos already, including recording for the main story walkthrough, but I like that idea!
I always liked the level 50 something orc mage build... just play as a fighter.
sadly the app is no longer available for oblivion or I cant find it anymore*efficient leveling
Yeah, that makes me so sad! I wonder why it was taken down
I kind of wish I never started looking into exactly how leveling and level scaling works. Now that I do it's hard to not always just tear through content until I have spellmaking and just break the game over my knee. I guess a good compromise would be to use restraint and gradually step up the BS you use in response to the game's escalation. That way you can play the game like a normal person and not have to conform to the ass backward logic the game systems push you toward.
I have friends who sing praises about luck...yeah you're getting an overall boost to all stats but even if you get it high you'd be just as powerful having used those points ON SOMETHING ELSE most of the time...idk I'm not one to tell someone how to have fun but luck does irk me lol
Me: level 50!
Level 30 master race
I think this whole efficient leveling thing is a bunch of nonsense. I just focused on the major skills and attributes I used the most and just played the game. I explored caves, mines, forts, etc, did side quests in between, and never touched the main story until my character's attributes and skill were maxed. I ended up doing fine by the end game. I have done this with a mage, rogue archer, and two handed warrior. I did the efficient leveling method before, and all it did for me was make me erase the game due to frustration of constantly min and maxing my character perfectly. I'm not trashing your video. Please don't take my comment as me targeting your video. I thought it was excellent! I just think the whole efficient leveling thing, when it comes to Oblivion, is a bit over exaggerated.
For those who read this comment, just pick up the game, focus only on the major skills you want to use, and play the game. No efficient leveling and frustration needed...
So I was trying this out... I wanna make a thief, and Thus I plan to maximize Agility, Speed, and Endurance.
So I raised Block by 10 (10 in Endurance) Acrobatics by 1, Athletics by 1, Light Armor by 8 (10 in Speed), and Sneak by 10 (10 in Agility).
Then I slept... And I could only increase Agility by 5. What went wrong?
+5 is the max bonus you can receive in your attributes so you leveled perfectly!
Here is the bonus point layout (uesp wiki):
0 skill points grants a +1 bonus
1-4 skill points grants a +2 bonus
5-7 skill points grants a +3 bonus
8-9 skill points grants a +4 bonus
10 or more skill points grants a +5 bonus
@@NerdyGamerGal I'm confused though, aren't I supposed to get 3 +5's?
Oh I see, yes you should have received +5 in all of them. The only exception is if you leveled your major skills first. As soon as you have 10 major skill ups it triggers the level up and the other skill up will automatically apply to the next level up.
So always complete minor skills before the 10th major skill up.
@@NerdyGamerGal Ooooooh... So I have to put 10 in a minor (in this case Armorer for Endurance)... 10 in another minor (let's say Security for Agility)... And 10 in a major (perhaps Light Armor for Speed).
I suppose the more refined method would be to only level skills I plan to use.
Exactly, it definitely constrains the way you play the game... it's like a puzzle!
You sound like Ellie from The Last of Us
I need to play that game! I'm only slightly completely terrified by zombies 😅
how you start with 50 mysticism and 50 endurance with a female breton?
i try to follow your leveling but i start with 45 endurance and 40 mysticism and by your method at level 25 i have 95 endurance and 90 mysticism
Interesting. I'll have to try character creation again to see exactly what's causing this discrepancy. There's definitely 1 missing level up here (which isn't too bad I recommend 25 or 30) but still I wonder if I incorrectly included level 0-1 in my list. You start at level 1 so that should be non existant. I had numerous lists and made a couple leveling mistakes I had to reload and fix to get this right so I may have missed a detail when consolidating the info.
So, I think the problem is that we had different classes. I'll mention it in the upcoming video, but I'll lay out my custom class it's own video after that
If u play on pc really do yourself a favor and download some sort of leveling mod. Just search them up on nexus and pick the one u like the most. Efficient leveling will just destroy your experience if u start want to get startef and play casually without all the work
They actually have a sale on steam and I'm really tempted to grab it....
I just play the game I can’t tell one from the other
Honestly, sometimes it's more fun to just enjoy the world and it's story. I love getting granular with the mechanics but it can be exhausting!
Finished all daedric shrines and main quest propley in 77 hours with 0 infamy not bad right.
I did 5/5/5 my first playthrough a few years ago (I only played Oblivion after Skyrim). I'm trying 5/5/1 now. Also I set my major skills to crap I won't use largely. I only use them for leveling.
Is it me or was the "3 Max" method not explained AT ALL or is just the same as 5-5-5?
You said you dont get the health refresh on rest, and while that's true, you get the same refresh from waiting, not just sleeping. Pointing that out for anyone who reads comments.
THIS 🔺️
Definitely a miss on my part, thanks for mentioning it!
Meanwhile I just modded it to give me 5 everytime
You know after playing oblivion for 7+ years now. I think it's kinda stupid to come up with the effective leveling tactics. Not against anyone who recommended it, but isn't the whole point of level scaling is to make enemies infinitely more challenging as you level? The reason I ask this is because I know it's possible to play through normal means without number crunching for what attributes to level up next, especially earnin' XP into skills you don't often/never use as major... even with the difficulty slider is set to it's default. Maybe not with premade classes, but definitely with custom classes. The game does give you time to prepare gear from level 1. I can't really show any example with explanation alone, but feel free to take my word from it😊. I'm fine with the idea of effective leveling, however I find it gets real boring after a while. Especially when you got yourself overpowered to a point where most foes fall with a few blows. I could just turn up the difficulty slider, but I haven't really played with it enough to find that cheese. Just my opinion though, I am open to hear your thoughts, whoever answers.
I totally feel that and I think that's the problem with Oblivion. My character is about as "perfect" as you can get and it's really not overpowered. If anything I feel like I'm barely keeping in step with tougher enemies.
-Someone pointed out that this may be because of my neglect of magic based combat. Also I have not really gotten into enchanting and potion use. Maybe those three things would make me stupid op and risk making the game boring.-
Imho there's more risk of becoming underpowered than overpowered, but I agree- leveling like this is a bit ridiculous! I want to make a guide on more casual EL or as you called it "effective leveling" for people who simply want to make a both viable and realistic character. I have admitted that this form of leveling is kind of obsessive compulsive on my part and more about perfecting the puzzle instead of making a reasonable character. My goal was to give all of the methods I used and then people could pick what they liked and not necessarily use all of them.
Ultimately, for that best Oblivion experience I think you should mostly play normally and enjoy the story..... or try out a leveling mod. Sadly, I've never gotten to do this since I only have the game on Xbox. *sigh* one day... 😊
This is so complicated I don’t understand it
You don't have to. Just use the difficulty slider and play Oblivion. Do what's fun !
this makes no fkn sense to me... how do you even get 5/5/5 ..
•Level up 2 attributes with minor skills (10 per att)
•Level up another attribute with a major skill (10 times)
Then rest and level up to receive the max of +5 bonus pts to 3 different attributes. You can totally mix and match the minor/major/attribute situation but it can get confusing fast and it's easy to mess up.