Does this include scooters that flood many of the poor countries you mentioned? I'd like to know the emissions of Vietnam where riding a scooter is... Everything
Basically until there's no more oil or Natural GAS, there's even new GAS new oils now made, ( Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 ) so as long as there's oil and all the products which are made from it, we will have ICE, even the plastic insulations for EV wiring is made from oil out of the ground. 😎✌🦘
@@7071t6 Oil will never run out, where do you think frackling oil comes from ? its comes from a natural geological process, not from biomass, it'll probably never run out. Also, its imposible to emit so much waste heat as to surpass blackbody radiation of the planet and really warm up the planet. Its a very simple equation, black body radiation - surplus waste heat - sun incidence = 0. 80PW of Sun incidence - 200PW of blackbody radiation = -120PW of waste heat we can emit, we only emit like 0.02PW (PW is petawatts) . All of the human emissions account for 2% only.
Here in the US some of the major auto makers have suspended EV production because they are just setting on the sales lots no one wants them. After people found out that they don't like the cold or the heat and for trips they add hours or days to the trip people decided they are just not ready for prime time yet.
Bro audi came out and said we only made a EV to make the minor parties happy but we wont be stopping out ICE engines, same as BMW, toyota, ford etc anyone who bought one is a born natural moron.
@@TheeAbstractHero Most EV batteries are 3/4 the cost of the car to replace so insurance just walks away from it. Once the outer casing of the battery has been impacted then it has to be inspected & replaced because there could be damage to the cells in the impact area.
@@dcptiv I work on EVs for a living, you're not informing me of anything I wasn't already aware of. HV packs have a maximum allowable depth of denting/deformation before the HV pack MUST be replaced due to the damage. Mind you that maximum depth is very minimal... To the point you need a long straight edge to measure in many cases. That is why I had said your post has merit. As far as vehicles being written off, I'm of the belief that has a lot to do with economies of scale. For example, A friend of mine had quoted out a replacement pack for an EV6. Total repair cost exceeded the value of the vehicle, which yes totaled the vehicle. Other manufacturers of whom have adequate quantities of HV packs don't charge nearly as much for a replacement pack. I quoted (and replaced, under insurance) an HV pack in a vehicle which was less than 50% vehicle value. Each insurance company has their own self-imposed "total loss threshold" (forgive me, I don't know the actual term). Insurance Company A may be as low as 65%. Company B may be 80-85%. Also, one large US national body shop chain does not have properly trained technicians at every shop, they have a regional EV repair facility. This also drives up costs in the grand scheme of things. The EV market may not be in its infancy anymore, more so adolescence.
I’ve said to my kids a few times, there’s nothing we do as a modern society that is environmentally friendly. You only have to look at where the raw materials for an EV come from and what it takes to dispose of that EV.
17:00 'And the return trip (800 km) cost a mere $150.00 !' Even at $2.00 per litre, the return trip's comparable in cost to a vehicle using just over 10 litres per 100 kms. And the average twin cab could manage that . Apart from the inconvenience from a lack of infrastructure ,owners of EVs are at the mercy of the few charge station owners scattered along popular highway routes.
Yep. I have a 1999 Daihatsu Terios which I drive from north of Coffs Harbour to the Blue Mountains west of Sydney a few times a year, a round trip of close to 1200kms. Even at today's petrol prices it costs about $70 to fill the tank which is enough for one way, with a bit left when I get there. If I fill up before I leave I don't even have to stop for fuel. Based on that, $150 would get me about 1400km down the road. In a 25 year old car that cost three grand to buy twelve years ago and owes me absolutely nothing. In terms of cost per km, factoring in the price of the vehicle, no EV is going to get close to that. It's not a wild performance car by any stretch, but bloody hell it's cheap to run. The boys on the old Top Gear were spot on with their research, they determined the best way to reduce your carbon footprint (if you even care about that) is to maintain and keep driving your old car. And in terms of cost per km that strategy is unbeatable.
What I hate about these EV Evangelists is they always cherry pick a very specific scenario that fits their narrative, about how cheap it is to run, but only if they already paid for Solar or charge at home only, or pay extra for a Hotel that has charging facilities. With EV you're always restricted to where you eat, where you piss, and those 45min piss breaks are a joke. It's always planning and restrictive, all this talk about freeing yourself from "big oil" but now they can't free themselves from the cord. And yes I own both an EV and a Turbo 4/6, I'm "eligible" to speak about it. Both have their uses but saying EV is the only way in 2024 is delusional.
i drove my son's BMW 520d (F10) m pack from Norseman (WA) to Ceduna (SA) (1200kms) and struggled to get 54lts into the tank was under $100, still had an indicated 225km left in the tank! It took 10.5 hours only stopping at Mundrabilla for a quick break. It'll be many Many years before we see an electric vehicle come close to this.
a note that's often over looked Mazda builds all there new engine tech into all there cars, making all there cars more efferent. and doing that at scale lowers there emission's more than if they sold 5% of there total sales on evs. 10% reduction in fleet emissions from new engine tech is better than selling small numbers of evs if your goal is emissions.
The stats are gold.. i just finished doing a 1600KM road trip. in a stage 3 tuned VB wrx and spent only $173 plus snacks in total. and thats with joyful driving.
I laugh more watching benchtorque than anything else. Great job Luke & Geordie! Hey a good snippet to use for "misinformation" is 2 mins 58 into episode 6 of the Donny and Clarence show.
@fullboost Japanese Automakers aren’t phased by any criticism worldwide over not manufacturing Electric Vehicles (EVs), as carbon emissions will significantly increase, as a result of acquiring more resources just to manufacture and build EVs + Batteries etc; thus, negating any efforts by Toyota and other automakers to become carbon neutral in near future. It’s also logical for Toyota and other automakers to continue producing Internal Combustion Engines (ICE), as Toyota plans on retrofitting both standard/hybrid vehicles with Hydrogen Fuel Cells, and as a result; less industrial waste is created and older vehicles will have a longer lifespan with more parts readily available for maintenance.
The issue is that we have a convergence of numerous technologies built into a single electric vehicle. Even if we overlook the range and recharge issues, these software locked anti repair vehicles are a massive problem in a growing anti consumer trends. A lot of car companies are lovely the ev ideas not due to the electric motors but due the control electronics provides witb software. Just look at the iPhone that requires pairing keys for individual parts within a phone to block users ability to repair their devices. This strategy will be further adopted in electric vehicles unless there's a massive push back.
@@ickebins6948 no it’s because I don’t want my car to sound like an evo lol just was never a fan of the equal length sound and I’m a veteran who has hearing problems lmao
Hey my new Mazda has a 3.3 6 cylinder turbo so I am pretty impressed with it I don’t know what it looks like as I haven’t lifted the bonnet yet but I only picked it up Friday I’m hoping it looks like a small Barra
My FG falcon ute with an 81L tank will use 51L on a 660km trip from Melbourne to Canberra on cruise at the speed limit. Keep in mind it’s quite hilly. Repeated this test three times. That’s $90 at current 91 unleaded price. I could do the trip and half way back without stopping. This is with a 13 year old car with a 20 year old engine design (admittedly gone through a couple of revisions). As reliable as ever. If this was the ecolpi LPG version it would cost half that price. Even the egas from 20 years ago! With an EV, I would have to charge before I left, charge on the way, charge when I get there, charge on the way back and charge when I arrive back. Imagine during school holidays, Christmas, Easter etc. Rather take a coach/train. Flights are dirtier and cost far more. You want to fly Canberra to Melbourne return next weekend? That’ll be $600-700 factoring in transport to and from the airport and you’ll be without transportation when you get there. Some people have places to be.
14:00 The engine was the 1GR-FE that came in the Hilux and Prado and yes it was a 4 Liter, currently driving an 07 Prado with one at nearly 400k and still going strong, has a surprising amount of go to it for the weight of the car, although being manual helps.
the stupid thing is, there is around 21 million registered cars in australia, a ship carrying a boat load of cars coming to australia puts out emissions, equivalent to 50 million cars, have a look at how many ships are on the sea, plus jets in the sky, oh and they have just proved electric cars are emitting carcinogenic radiation, and there is only 0.04 of a percent of carbon dioxide in the air, whole thing is a beat up, someone is making billions out of this ev madness.
Some fun facts that a lot of EV proponents forget to mention is a) how caustic it is to dispose of electric car batteries, in addition to b) how rapidly we are depleting rare earth metals (that are definitely a finite quantity) in the process of making these batteries as well. While full electric is not the answer due to the lack of the infrastructure needed for charging etc. ICE engines have come a long way. Somewhere in the middle or the current hybrid model seems like the best compromise.
Fossil fuel A hydrocarbon-based fuel, such as petroleum, coal, or natural gas, derived from living matter of a previous geologic time. Sounds to me like the earth takes dead stuff and renews it into a high density fuel source. The earth is so smart. When you burn the fuel the earth made the carbon released is one of the main foods the next lot of dead stuff needs to grow. Talk about renewable!
A Kodak moment? Fuji Film can’t currently keep up with the demand for roll film. ICE will have a place in our transport mix for decades to come. If we all go down the transition path to EVs, there will be chaos. If we are discerning and pick out the segments that could benefit from EV adoption, rather than in every situation, we may actually reduce CO2 and do some good for everyone. Small urban vehicles with small battery packs and 120km range, perhaps. Charge at home overnight because you only have 20kW to charge.
The last tax return i did with my business my accountant asked me if id bought an EV? I said no why do you ask? He said if you have an EV you are taxed per KM you do as governments cant tax an EV for the fuel they use and they need their tax dollars. Anyways given the amount of Km id done that year i would have been liable for another $700 in tax. You cant tell me any of this EV isnt a cash grab. Anytime money gets more expensive to borrow solar company stock goes down why is that? because the solar systems themselves are expensive so people need to finance them. Then as a result you know they are bundling these loans together like they did with subprime and selling them to investors. As with anything they dont care about the environment its a financial game and we get squeezed. its shocking to me how they've turned the young generations neurotic nature against them into financial gain. Or maybe im wrong who knows.
I have lived in Japan for 28 years. Nissan have a few ev’s Toyota have one. Where I live I don’t see many ev’s. Hybrids are the go here they all make them and they sell like hotcakes. In the big cities they are plenty of charge stations where I am there are hardly any and all slow. Who in their right mind what to wait an hour to charge their car.
Japan is working toward a hydrogen economy. The Hydrogen is generated by their established nuclear reactors. As they say they are developing Hydrogen and E-fuel ICE engines. they are not Climate deniers, infact they believe a carbon-neutral future is essential.
When I was studying car mechanics in the seventies, Mercedes already had a highly efficient engine that did 236 Miles to the gallon. Believing we have fuel efficient cars in 2024 is just a big laugh to those in the know what we can have.
God dam y'all, more heated that a presidential debate between two very old men. EV sales here have flattened. I test drove a bunch of the performance version here, took the wife and kids along, and at the end of the day, let them decide if we should get one. My misso said thanks but I'm not waiting at a charger for ages while it charges. My daughter (10) said great for Barbie but not form. Son (8) said, "Dad, you get one and I'm divorcing you." I've now banned him from watching Dr Phil. Me, I gave it a shot but couldn't do it I'll stick with my V8 and V6 diesel truck and SUV, and borrow the missos tuned Stinger for when the boy and me want to 'go for a drive'.
If it wasn’t for government regulation for emissions we’d all still be using leaded fuel (just like general aviation) amongst everything else that’s improved the air we breathe. Car companies care about 1 thing and that’s money so the thought they’d do anything to benefit us is laughable.
I'll tell you why Japan doesn't want EV, (from 17yrs living there) because they made the Hybrid thing work so well there and honestly 90% now buy Toyota Hybrids and society accepted it and lower tax/insurance, compensated for the higher price, it was 20+ years and easy enough for them , the west like OZ didn't want to play along, we were skeptical and cynical of their engineering still back then and guess not worth it since just the price was high here. Japanese people ware obsessed with practicality and exceptional engineering level on everything from stationary to neuroscience, I never once saw a leaking tap in Japan, not bloody once in 17yrs !!! Also in Japan even the rich consider a 2.0 liter to be a waste of petrol. Their Royal family maybe still roll in 12 cylinder Centurys but CEO's and Yakuza don't roll in Mercs like they did in the 80's. They finally have pride for their own superior engineering... Chauffeured in the latest Hybrid VELLFIRE / ALPHARD Executive Saloon is what the richest do there, Tokyo trendy streets, you will risk looking stupid in a modern Rolls Royce because those Toyota SUPER Vans are simply better with their fine leather full massage seats... The Japan you think you know is, well 30 yrs ahead... I'm a petrol-head and owned multiple 2J-1JZGTE models including one of 300 Crown Athlete VX and every JDM you can think of including over 30 660cc Kei models + even a Left hand drive Citroen Saxo VTS among 10 MX5s Eunos Roadsters eight NA8 and two NA6 models I worked in the automotive industry there. I remember the hybrid was new when I was moving there 2003 and I didn't wanna know about a stupid hybrid all until in 2011 my Jap father in-law gave us his Toyota Aqua, AKA Prius C and it blew me away at how fun it accelerated and handled on its even 1000kg. I bet currently Japan produces the least pollution and has cut down half their Petroleum import compared to any other country ... Trust me, live with a Prius for a month and you will understand why they simply work...
I have gone dilligaf on this whole issue. I have a turbo diesel 4WD ute , a plug in Hybrid EV AWD and a Barra turbo ute running on E85. So I come out neutral somewhere sometime somehow I think. Oh and the good old Aussie govt at sometime has given me a heafty tax break on buying all of these. 😂 Keep up the good work, can we see some skids to balance out your content in the next chatfest. #buywhatyoulikeFFS
Is that a EA with EB taillights or a EBI you have there? I ask because it looks like EB T-lights but has the slits in the rear pillar which I thought was a EA thing.
Has anyone done a study on the average age of cars and the economics of driving them longer vs scrapping them out because their repair value is less than their replacement value. In a climate like Aus where rust isn't really an issue, seems we can drive them a lot longer if only parts were available at reasonable price. I bought a Ford Focus for $600 that was going to the scrap yard, got it reliable and roadworthy for another $3000 yet its only worth about $1500 cause it has 250K on it. And it gets 7.4L/100km. I'm going to drive it till it drops cause I can't sell it for what I have into it.
Nah it was the Hilux AUV (Action utility Vehicle) with the TRD supercharged Aurion 3.5 litre V6 engine from the Lotus Exige. 98% of them got looped into a retaining wall near a roundabout after some light rain. I can still remember the Wheels review, where they said (paraphrasing) "this is about three times more power than the chassis and suspension of the Hilux platform can handle". They literally said "these things are going to get spun into family loungerooms at roundabouts whenever it rains" and then they all fucking did exactly that! Go find one for sale now that has never been sent through a suburban yard fence backwards. You can't! All ten of them left have been crashed at LEAST twice, most three times or more.
@@fullboost yep she wasn't a bad rig, only mod I did on it was a stage 3 shift kit, haha, my most unmodified car 😂. Pretty sure it got down to 4L/100km on the highway. That trip to the Isa has a lot of small towns on the way.
The main push for EVs is from the US. The first and biggest EV maker is in the US. The largest government subsidies on the purchase of EVs are also in the US. China is just doing what it did in the era of ICE cars, following and trying to overtake, but more successfully. As long as Japan exists as a 'dog' of the US, the anti-combustion move will just be at a marketing level.
A GWM Ora is twice the price of a Kia Picanto. If you somehow never spend a cent to charge your Ora (another $15k solar install?), that's 50,000km ($2 a liter at 5.4L/100km) before break even which is also very close to the same amount of greenhouse emissions both products will have generated up until that point. At that point you still have a trash spec thrashed out shitbox that is worth about a quarter what you paid new
Luke, Jordy... please share links to where these woke drop kicks are writing these comments so that us boys can give them a dose of reality Love ya work too boys!
The ev sales slumped for a reason and subsided car sales for fleet buyers should stop making it even worse. Combined with new cars sitting in holding pens with no interest is funny as shit.
I work for Toyota and this month we’re giving away free disposable Kodak camera’s and free Nokia 3310 GR spec phone cases… hey get in quick while stocks last
The back of the car park by the dumpsters dual charging stations they have I swear that was proposed as like a temporary thing for 6 months til they had time to build apple store like charging facilities that make servos look like squalor but instead I'm still seeing electritards fighting in the corner of Collingwood train station car park over the two available spots pacing around on the phone for 20 minutes trying to get it to work.
😭Thanks Guy's! My diesel Territory got rear ended and destroyed last week, the courtesy car is a MG! it's better than walking.................................
$150 for 1600km? Family packed Patrol, Sydney to Melbourne, costs me about $260. Whats the EV fuel cost for moving the weight of a family packed Patrol?
How many years does ICE have left?
Does this include scooters that flood many of the poor countries you mentioned? I'd like to know the emissions of Vietnam where riding a scooter is... Everything
Basically until there's no more oil or Natural GAS, there's even new GAS new oils now made, ( Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 ) so as long as there's oil and all the products which are made from it, we will have ICE, even the plastic insulations for EV wiring is made from oil out of the ground. 😎✌🦘
plenty more time for ICE, once they figure evs wont work. they will try hydrogen which is the future but they gotta develop, r an d.. will take years
anything from 25 to 50 to 75 in the worst case
@@7071t6 Oil will never run out, where do you think frackling oil comes from ? its comes from a natural geological process, not from biomass, it'll probably never run out. Also, its imposible to emit so much waste heat as to surpass blackbody radiation of the planet and really warm up the planet.
Its a very simple equation, black body radiation - surplus waste heat - sun incidence = 0. 80PW of Sun incidence - 200PW of blackbody radiation = -120PW of waste heat we can emit, we only emit like 0.02PW (PW is petawatts) . All of the human emissions account for 2% only.
Need benchtorque more often boys
Here in the US some of the major auto makers have suspended EV production because they are just setting on the sales lots no one wants them. After people found out that they don't like the cold or the heat and for trips they add hours or days to the trip people decided they are just not ready for prime time yet.
Bro audi came out and said we only made a EV to make the minor parties happy but we wont be stopping out ICE engines, same as BMW, toyota, ford etc anyone who bought one is a born natural moron.
You forgot that any dent or scrape on the battery case/guard means the car is a write-off because the battery has to be replaced.
@@dcptiva bit hyperbolic, but has some merit.
@@TheeAbstractHero Most EV batteries are 3/4 the cost of the car to replace so insurance just walks away from it. Once the outer casing of the battery has been impacted then it has to be inspected & replaced because there could be damage to the cells in the impact area.
@@dcptiv I work on EVs for a living, you're not informing me of anything I wasn't already aware of.
HV packs have a maximum allowable depth of denting/deformation before the HV pack MUST be replaced due to the damage. Mind you that maximum depth is very minimal... To the point you need a long straight edge to measure in many cases. That is why I had said your post has merit.
As far as vehicles being written off, I'm of the belief that has a lot to do with economies of scale. For example, A friend of mine had quoted out a replacement pack for an EV6. Total repair cost exceeded the value of the vehicle, which yes totaled the vehicle. Other manufacturers of whom have adequate quantities of HV packs don't charge nearly as much for a replacement pack. I quoted (and replaced, under insurance) an HV pack in a vehicle which was less than 50% vehicle value.
Each insurance company has their own self-imposed "total loss threshold" (forgive me, I don't know the actual term). Insurance Company A may be as low as 65%. Company B may be 80-85%.
Also, one large US national body shop chain does not have properly trained technicians at every shop, they have a regional EV repair facility. This also drives up costs in the grand scheme of things. The EV market may not be in its infancy anymore, more so adolescence.
The only way to have zero emissions is to live a lifestyle of several centuries ago.
Several centuries ago, we burned everything instead of burying most waste as we do today, so as long as there is man, there will be emissions
have to go back to before we discovered how to use fire.
it seems like that's what they want
I’ve said to my kids a few times, there’s nothing we do as a modern society that is environmentally friendly. You only have to look at where the raw materials for an EV come from and what it takes to dispose of that EV.
Even horse shit emits methane
17:00 'And the return trip (800 km) cost a mere $150.00 !'
Even at $2.00 per litre, the return trip's comparable in cost to a vehicle using just over 10 litres per 100 kms. And the average twin cab could manage that . Apart from the inconvenience from a lack of infrastructure ,owners of EVs are at the mercy of the few charge station owners scattered along popular highway routes.
Just recently, my sister drove a 1991 Ford Laser, manual, from Melbourne to QLD, it cost her $200 all up for the round trip.
Yep. I have a 1999 Daihatsu Terios which I drive from north of Coffs Harbour to the Blue Mountains west of Sydney a few times a year, a round trip of close to 1200kms. Even at today's petrol prices it costs about $70 to fill the tank which is enough for one way, with a bit left when I get there. If I fill up before I leave I don't even have to stop for fuel.
Based on that, $150 would get me about 1400km down the road. In a 25 year old car that cost three grand to buy twelve years ago and owes me absolutely nothing. In terms of cost per km, factoring in the price of the vehicle, no EV is going to get close to that. It's not a wild performance car by any stretch, but bloody hell it's cheap to run.
The boys on the old Top Gear were spot on with their research, they determined the best way to reduce your carbon footprint (if you even care about that) is to maintain and keep driving your old car. And in terms of cost per km that strategy is unbeatable.
@@woopimagpie The newest car I own, is a 2001 XR8 ute.
Do these people not realise that as soon as a certain percentage of people get an ev, they'll put the price up? They're already starting to now
Love the FullBoost Garage add in there 😂
What I hate about these EV Evangelists is they always cherry pick a very specific scenario that fits their narrative, about how cheap it is to run, but only if they already paid for Solar or charge at home only, or pay extra for a Hotel that has charging facilities. With EV you're always restricted to where you eat, where you piss, and those 45min piss breaks are a joke. It's always planning and restrictive, all this talk about freeing yourself from "big oil" but now they can't free themselves from the cord.
And yes I own both an EV and a Turbo 4/6, I'm "eligible" to speak about it. Both have their uses but saying EV is the only way in 2024 is delusional.
i drove my son's BMW 520d (F10) m pack from Norseman (WA) to Ceduna (SA) (1200kms) and struggled to get 54lts into the tank was under $100, still had an indicated 225km left in the tank! It took 10.5 hours only stopping at Mundrabilla for a quick break. It'll be many Many years before we see an electric vehicle come close to this.
I just sold mine and yes it easy got 1200 to 1400 a tank absolutely amazing
Bench Torque is back! Great show, lads
Most under rated thing about your videos are the funny snippet takes you put in 🤣
If we want lower co2 we need more trees and flora. Evs make more polution making the batteries than my little straight piped 20v.
a note that's often over looked Mazda builds all there new engine tech into all there cars, making all there cars more efferent. and doing that at scale lowers there emission's more than if they sold 5% of there total sales on evs. 10% reduction in fleet emissions from new engine tech is better than selling small numbers of evs if your goal is emissions.
Internal engines aren't going anywhere, in the furure they still use them, i saw it on the mandalorian, and thats set in the 26th century. 😂😂😂
I love bench torque keep it up.
Best p155 take segment on the tube. Love it ❤😂
The stats are gold.. i just finished doing a 1600KM road trip. in a stage 3 tuned VB wrx and spent only $173 plus snacks in total. and thats with joyful driving.
I don't think we could replicate that in our VB WRX.
Brilliant, loved it
I laugh more watching benchtorque than anything else. Great job Luke & Geordie! Hey a good snippet to use for "misinformation" is 2 mins 58 into episode 6 of the Donny and Clarence show.
@fullboost
Japanese Automakers aren’t phased by any criticism worldwide over not manufacturing Electric Vehicles (EVs), as carbon emissions will significantly increase, as a result of acquiring more resources just to manufacture and build EVs + Batteries etc; thus, negating any efforts by Toyota and other automakers to become carbon neutral in near future.
It’s also logical for Toyota and other automakers to continue producing Internal Combustion Engines (ICE), as Toyota plans on retrofitting both standard/hybrid vehicles with Hydrogen Fuel Cells, and as a result; less industrial waste is created and older vehicles will have a longer lifespan with more parts readily available for maintenance.
The issue is that we have a convergence of numerous technologies built into a single electric vehicle. Even if we overlook the range and recharge issues, these software locked anti repair vehicles are a massive problem in a growing anti consumer trends. A lot of car companies are lovely the ev ideas not due to the electric motors but due the control electronics provides witb software.
Just look at the iPhone that requires pairing keys for individual parts within a phone to block users ability to repair their devices. This strategy will be further adopted in electric vehicles unless there's a massive push back.
Fortnighty catch up on how moranic the world is. 😂 Thanks lads.
There’s a reason I drive a un equal length straight pipe decatted external waste gated Subaru sti the raw smiles per gallon
No you do (might do), because you can "brag" about it online...
And hope somebody will give af....
@@ickebins6948 no it’s because I don’t want my car to sound like an evo lol just was never a fan of the equal length sound and I’m a veteran who has hearing problems lmao
Hey my new Mazda has a 3.3 6 cylinder turbo so I am pretty impressed with it
I don’t know what it looks like as I haven’t lifted the bonnet yet but I only picked it up Friday
I’m hoping it looks like a small Barra
Did you know that 90% of ev’s are still on the road. Yeah the other 10% made it home. 😂😂😂
My FG falcon ute with an 81L tank will use 51L on a 660km trip from Melbourne to Canberra on cruise at the speed limit. Keep in mind it’s quite hilly.
Repeated this test three times.
That’s $90 at current 91 unleaded price.
I could do the trip and half way back without stopping. This is with a 13 year old car with a 20 year old engine design (admittedly gone through a couple of revisions). As reliable as ever.
If this was the ecolpi LPG version it would cost half that price. Even the egas from 20 years ago!
With an EV, I would have to charge before I left, charge on the way, charge when I get there, charge on the way back and charge when I arrive back. Imagine during school holidays, Christmas, Easter etc.
Rather take a coach/train. Flights are dirtier and cost far more.
You want to fly Canberra to Melbourne return next weekend? That’ll be $600-700 factoring in transport to and from the airport and you’ll be without transportation when you get there. Some people have places to be.
14:00 The engine was the 1GR-FE that came in the Hilux and Prado and yes it was a 4 Liter, currently driving an 07 Prado with one at nearly 400k and still going strong, has a surprising amount of go to it for the weight of the car, although being manual helps.
Mate when that engine dies find a scrap FJ/ Hilux/ Fortuner motor chuck it in and you've got another 400k. Mine just had bearing failure at 476000km.
the stupid thing is, there is around 21 million registered cars in australia, a ship carrying a boat load of cars coming to australia puts out emissions, equivalent to 50 million cars, have a look at how many ships are on the sea, plus jets in the sky, oh and they have just proved electric cars are emitting carcinogenic radiation, and there is only 0.04 of a percent of carbon dioxide in the air, whole thing is a beat up, someone is making billions out of this ev madness.
Some fun facts that a lot of EV proponents forget to mention is a) how caustic it is to dispose of electric car batteries, in addition to b) how rapidly we are depleting rare earth metals (that are definitely a finite quantity) in the process of making these batteries as well.
While full electric is not the answer due to the lack of the infrastructure needed for charging etc. ICE engines have come a long way. Somewhere in the middle or the current hybrid model seems like the best compromise.
I like the VE note on how many were sold. I live in FLORIDA, USA... AND I EVEN HAVE A VE! V8s FOR LIIIIFEEE!!
In a world where time is more pressured than ever before, everyone has time to sit around for an hour waiting for their car to charge...
Fossil fuel
A hydrocarbon-based fuel, such as petroleum, coal, or natural gas, derived from living matter of a previous geologic time.
Sounds to me like the earth takes dead stuff and renews it into a high density fuel source.
The earth is so smart. When you burn the fuel the earth made the carbon released is one of the main foods the next lot of dead stuff needs to grow.
Talk about renewable!
A Kodak moment? Fuji Film can’t currently keep up with the demand for roll film. ICE will have a place in our transport mix for decades to come. If we all go down the transition path to EVs, there will be chaos. If we are discerning and pick out the segments that could benefit from EV adoption, rather than in every situation, we may actually reduce CO2 and do some good for everyone. Small urban vehicles with small battery packs and 120km range, perhaps. Charge at home overnight because you only have 20kW to charge.
Love how the walking around time kept getting longer.
The last tax return i did with my business my accountant asked me if id bought an EV? I said no why do you ask? He said if you have an EV you are taxed per KM you do as governments cant tax an EV for the fuel they use and they need their tax dollars.
Anyways given the amount of Km id done that year i would have been liable for another $700 in tax.
You cant tell me any of this EV isnt a cash grab. Anytime money gets more expensive to borrow solar company stock goes down why is that? because the solar systems themselves are expensive so people need to finance them.
Then as a result you know they are bundling these loans together like they did with subprime and selling them to investors.
As with anything they dont care about the environment its a financial game and we get squeezed. its shocking to me how they've turned the young generations neurotic nature against them into financial gain.
Or maybe im wrong who knows.
😂😂 More Bench Torque !!!
Hybrid is the future not electric
I drove a rental hybrid Corolla on holiday a few months back
300+km and only 14litres of fuel
Toyota know their stuff
But I still live my s13 sr20det
I have lived in Japan for 28 years. Nissan have a few ev’s Toyota have one. Where I live I don’t see many ev’s. Hybrids are the go here they all make them and they sell like hotcakes. In the big cities they are plenty of charge stations where I am there are hardly any and all slow. Who in their right mind what to wait an hour to charge their car.
Japan is working toward a hydrogen economy. The Hydrogen is generated by their established nuclear reactors. As they say they are developing Hydrogen and E-fuel ICE engines. they are not Climate deniers, infact they believe a carbon-neutral future is essential.
Damn fullboost got some good looking profiles commenting 😂😂😂
Even Fred Flintstone's car wasn't Zero emissions, he would of farted on hill starts
Its funny how you guys are stuck in the Covid lockdown situation still doing these videos in isolation 😂😂
"couple of braps, couple of doritos" hahahahahahaha
I never imagined so many people are so passionate about EV's. If it was that great, everyone would have one right?
No because "big oil" is not letting that happen, because ... uhm .... aahhmmm.... YEAH!
soo good editing chefs kiss
is a 400 cube Clevo in a 9.2 " deck,a small engine?
When I was studying car mechanics in the seventies, Mercedes already had a highly efficient engine that did 236 Miles to the gallon. Believing we have fuel efficient cars in 2024 is just a big laugh to those in the know what we can have.
God dam y'all, more heated that a presidential debate between two very old men. EV sales here have flattened. I test drove a bunch of the performance version here, took the wife and kids along, and at the end of the day, let them decide if we should get one. My misso said thanks but I'm not waiting at a charger for ages while it charges. My daughter (10) said great for Barbie but not form. Son (8) said, "Dad, you get one and I'm divorcing you." I've now banned him from watching Dr Phil. Me, I gave it a shot but couldn't do it I'll stick with my V8 and V6 diesel truck and SUV, and borrow the missos tuned Stinger for when the boy and me want to 'go for a drive'.
I strive to have your levels of sarcasm!
If it wasn’t for government regulation for emissions we’d all still be using leaded fuel (just like general aviation) amongst everything else that’s improved the air we breathe.
Car companies care about 1 thing and that’s money so the thought they’d do anything to benefit us is laughable.
How good was the love for the 4 litre 1GR V6 in the Hilux
Toyota Mirai is a production car and have been available for a few years
I've seen 1 in 3 years.
@@fullboost I believe that it was QLD that a council bought a few and put in the infrastructure to run them but we don’t have any yet…..
You need to stop referring to Dinosaurs for the source of fuel, let alone Dinosaur bones!
Great Video careful with copy right rules...:)
Electric cars are just like the people that drive them, they have no soul..
In Carnarvon, WA they use diesel powered generators which are kept fuelled by diesel powered trucks to power the EV charger 😂😂😂
I'll tell you why Japan doesn't want EV, (from 17yrs living there) because they made the Hybrid thing work so well there and honestly 90% now buy Toyota Hybrids and society accepted it and lower tax/insurance, compensated for the higher price, it was 20+ years and easy enough for them , the west like OZ didn't want to play along, we were skeptical and cynical of their engineering still back then and guess not worth it since just the price was high here. Japanese people ware obsessed with practicality and exceptional engineering level on everything from stationary to neuroscience, I never once saw a leaking tap in Japan, not bloody once in 17yrs !!! Also in Japan even the rich consider a 2.0 liter to be a waste of petrol. Their Royal family maybe still roll in 12 cylinder Centurys but CEO's and Yakuza don't roll in Mercs like they did in the 80's. They finally have pride for their own superior engineering... Chauffeured in the latest Hybrid VELLFIRE / ALPHARD Executive Saloon is what the richest do there, Tokyo trendy streets, you will risk looking stupid in a modern Rolls Royce because those Toyota SUPER Vans are simply better with their fine leather full massage seats... The Japan you think you know is, well 30 yrs ahead...
I'm a petrol-head and owned multiple 2J-1JZGTE models including one of 300 Crown Athlete VX and every JDM you can think of including over 30 660cc Kei models + even a Left hand drive Citroen Saxo VTS among 10 MX5s Eunos Roadsters eight NA8 and two NA6 models I worked in the automotive industry there.
I remember the hybrid was new when I was moving there 2003 and I didn't wanna know about a stupid hybrid all until in 2011 my Jap father in-law gave us his Toyota Aqua, AKA Prius C and it blew me away at how fun it accelerated and handled on its even 1000kg. I bet currently Japan produces the least pollution and has cut down half their Petroleum import compared to any other country ... Trust me, live with a Prius for a month and you will understand why they simply work...
Any more 25 year T shirts coming??
Probably not they were intended to be a one off run.
I have gone dilligaf on this whole issue. I have a turbo diesel 4WD ute , a plug in Hybrid EV AWD and a Barra turbo ute running on E85. So I come out neutral somewhere sometime somehow I think. Oh and the good old Aussie govt at sometime has given me a heafty tax break on buying all of these. 😂
Keep up the good work, can we see some skids to balance out your content in the next chatfest. #buywhatyoulikeFFS
I only efficiency that matters is volumetric efficiency. The Coyote 5.0 V8 is very efficient.
#SoChyourBarra, E85 the world IC engines sorted. Thank you Mr. Tunnel Vision 🎉
Is that a EA with EB taillights or a EBI you have there? I ask because it looks like EB T-lights but has the slits in the rear pillar which I thought was a EA thing.
@@cgt527 That's an EB, there aren't any slits on the pillar in the image.
@@MrJAG Ahh cool, I must be blind :D
@@cgt527 EB2 Spac
Nice EB btw
If we as a race stopped cutting down the rainforests there would be no problem at all. Can these EV chicken lollipops please look this up.
Great to see you guys back, keep up the great work guys.😎😎👍👌✌🦘
So you guys must have missed the LA smog reduction photos during covid.
The difference was striking, and USA didnt grind to a halt like australia did.
who will win,
the spicy byd on finance
or the 2k big block yaris
Has anyone done a study on the average age of cars and the economics of driving them longer vs scrapping them out because their repair value is less than their replacement value. In a climate like Aus where rust isn't really an issue, seems we can drive them a lot longer if only parts were available at reasonable price. I bought a Ford Focus for $600 that was going to the scrap yard, got it reliable and roadworthy for another $3000 yet its only worth about $1500 cause it has 250K on it. And it gets 7.4L/100km. I'm going to drive it till it drops cause I can't sell it for what I have into it.
Nah it was the Hilux AUV (Action utility Vehicle) with the TRD supercharged Aurion 3.5 litre V6 engine from the Lotus Exige.
98% of them got looped into a retaining wall near a roundabout after some light rain.
I can still remember the Wheels review, where they said (paraphrasing) "this is about three times more power than the chassis and suspension of the Hilux platform can handle".
They literally said "these things are going to get spun into family loungerooms at roundabouts whenever it rains" and then they all fucking did exactly that!
Go find one for sale now that has never been sent through a suburban yard fence backwards. You can't! All ten of them left have been crashed at LEAST twice, most three times or more.
I had a laugh at the slag off on EVs, then your attempt at plugging your workshop because servicing your ICE is a pain in the arse.
😆😅😂🤣
Not everyone can afford an EV 😉👍
The aim is to make owning a car unaffordable and if you have money uninspiring
My old vy ecomang ute, Brisbane to Mt Isa return trip, 3630km= $400. 1 day each way.
So if you were paying $1.80 a litre your fuel economy was around 6.1L/100km which is very good for a Commie. 👍
@@fullboost yep she wasn't a bad rig, only mod I did on it was a stage 3 shift kit, haha, my most unmodified car 😂. Pretty sure it got down to 4L/100km on the highway. That trip to the Isa has a lot of small towns on the way.
The African guy clicking 😂😂😂
The main push for EVs is from the US. The first and biggest EV maker is in the US. The largest government subsidies on the purchase of EVs are also in the US. China is just doing what it did in the era of ICE cars, following and trying to overtake, but more successfully.
As long as Japan exists as a 'dog' of the US, the anti-combustion move will just be at a marketing level.
oh, FYI the 3-5yrs starts on WEDNESDAY
That's it - I'm gonna future-proof my Barra and immediately buy a destroker kit and bring it down to a politically correct 1.2 liters 😂🤦
I can still buy polaroid refills fuel wont go anywhere toyota ice engines will out live most of us dont worry
Not sure about the EU but there is almost no infrastructure for electric cars here in the US. I'll get a plug in before I'd get a full EV.
A GWM Ora is twice the price of a Kia Picanto. If you somehow never spend a cent to charge your Ora (another $15k solar install?), that's 50,000km ($2 a liter at 5.4L/100km) before break even which is also very close to the same amount of greenhouse emissions both products will have generated up until that point. At that point you still have a trash spec thrashed out shitbox that is worth about a quarter what you paid new
My Hyundai van will do over 800 km on a tank which costs around $150
If we get rid of all the lights at the station we can power one more charger ,yes do it
Luke, Jordy... please share links to where these woke drop kicks are writing these comments so that us boys can give them a dose of reality
Love ya work too boys!
10:15 I'm in Queensland 😭, btw I'd have a small one seater ev that is basically a mini group C Porsche 962 sports car
btw my ef falcon gets 400ks to a tank with $100 per tank, so I'm only $50 more out of pocket for the same trip?
She did 1600kms
The ev sales slumped for a reason and subsided car sales for fleet buyers should stop making it even worse. Combined with new cars sitting in holding pens with no interest is funny as shit.
1:14 bro definitely hasn't driven any Mazda's in a while
They finally started selling a decent engine here this year, the new 3.3 inline 6 turbo.
I work for Toyota and this month we’re giving away free disposable Kodak camera’s and free Nokia 3310 GR spec phone cases… hey get in quick while stocks last
Here in new zealand EVs are expensive . Have only heard bad stuff about second hand.
The back of the car park by the dumpsters dual charging stations they have I swear that was proposed as like a temporary thing for 6 months til they had time to build apple store like charging facilities that make servos look like squalor but instead I'm still seeing electritards fighting in the corner of Collingwood train station car park over the two available spots pacing around on the phone for 20 minutes trying to get it to work.
It takes 9000w of energy to produce 1000w worth of Hydrogen.............Yeah worth it, A?
If FullBoost changes to FullCharge im out :D
😭Thanks Guy's! My diesel Territory got rear ended and destroyed last week, the courtesy car is a MG! it's better than walking.................................
Good chat boy's..👍👊💥💥💥
I'd buy a VE before an EV. :P
Ev sound like the shitbox I had at 18,every couple hundred ks it would take an hour to get running again.
Good on japan f evs
Thats awesome ! Trees live off car emissions dont you know anything
$150 for 1600km? Family packed Patrol, Sydney to Melbourne, costs me about $260. Whats the EV fuel cost for moving the weight of a family packed Patrol?
Long live the 1gre-fe. best engine the hilux ever had
My dads one has nearly 600k with the factory engine
Yes, driving a 07 Prado manual, nearly at 400k and still going strong.
Like im new here but is that the same guy in the split screen or are they brothers twins what😂
Ice vehicles don’t need to be left to be filled atleast not for long that’s the point
We are all aware of the fact Kodak still exists making chemicals and pharmaceuticals as they have done for over 130 years. just saying.