This Chinese Excavator Is Just Better
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Kymron does not add these "upgrades". These come with the machine. The reason that you don't find these options is because the people importing them are buying the cheapest option to maximize their return.
Briggs 10-13.5hp motors are standard, come with the tractor from China. Yanmar/Kubota diesels are optional, from China. You have a higher tarrif and import fees when importing diesel engines.
All hydraulics are standard. Any part is readily upgradable from the factory. This is true of all China manufacturers, they all use the same engines.
I just ordered one with everything you listed PLUS all the attachments PLUS a cab PLUS a pivoting boom PLUS telescoping tracks - for LESS than ANY of the basic excavators are selling for AT AUCTION.
Oh yeah, THIS INCLUDES SHIPPING TO MY PORT!!!
These guys are just importing them and selling you a ketchup Popsicle lol.
You’ve addressed many of my concerns I had with purchasing Chinese equipment. Most importantly getting replacements parts within the US. Like you said the rest is just steal and hoses. I have a small farm and this machine can be very useful for what I need.
It really is a great budget friendly option. Ive beat on both of them pretty good and they havent had an issue.
I just got access to some FL land and now I getting all these tool vids. Good info.
Were seeing chinese goods surpass US made goods not just in price. Theyre the same quality since all the jobs were shipped there 😅
Man, you really missed an opportunity with "One Ton Unit." That's ok, I had plenty of sixth grade jokes floating around in my brain. 😂
Oh so strong. looking forward to the rental details.
Very entertaining video with a great theme.
I have a Groundhog unit from Hackenburg Equip in PA. At about 1.5T with a 20 HP rated diesel it specs out much like your Kymron as for reach and digging depth. And yes it too is from China with upgrades. I chose no swing boom as just another wear point for me. I bought from him for same reason you bought from someone, they deal with import issues. A TH-camr, B&M Excavating, works his 14HP gas unit doing many, many projects.
Great info, thx for all the details.
Ethanol actually makes an engine run cooler if the engine has the proper jetting. It also boost the octane. To avoid most of the issues with ethanol when your done using the equipment just turn off the fuel then let it run till the carb is dry. or some carbs have a drain. or if its a chain saw weed eater whatever just pour the left over fuel back into a metal gas can and store it out of the sun in a well ventilated area. plastic allows moisture contamination. Don't buy more gas than you need for about a month so it stays fresh. This will solve at least 90% of the issues with ethanol.
A good idea is to put a ram guard on the hydro ram at the start of the boom, to stop the bucket hitting the ram. A good investment, and get used to straighten them out, you'll be doing a lot of that.
You can order one from China for $3600, delivered and all. Just finished talking to them a week ago.
You should totally buy one from them.
no you cant.
@@adamsorell4851sure you can.
Teeth backwards help with friction when digging. Not much but on a small machine it helps. In some conditions like clay. No expert. But ive done it with r/c machines and it helps
Really enjoy all your videos I like everything you put into them. I do like watching "MACHINES" work. Hope to see more work with the mini excavator as time goes and see how the rental thing pans out. I live pretty close to Muskogee so I am tempted now. Thanks
Thank you! I appreciate that. There will be lots of videos with both machines and the rental process. They have a nice showroom and inventory. Worth checking out. Thanks for the comment!
It's nice that it comes in innovative high viz black.
The upside down "machine", classic. Your right about importing headaches. Ive imported a lot, and it can be a pain. Also tariffs fees have skyrocketed shortly after 2017 Jan 20th.
Hah thanks! I thought that would catch some people off guard. Ive heard importing can go bad quickly
Well. That went just about as well as a screen door on a submarine. L O L Briggs & Stratton isn’t allowed in my garage.😂
I'd recommended replacing the hour meter. You can get ones that sense if the engine is running via a wire wrapped around the spark plug lead, or given your electrical skills, have the meter be keyed off the oil pressure. My concern with the way it is now is that if you're going to use a standard rental model where it's some dollar amount per day, those days are usually based on 8 operating hours per day, then a per hour rate. If someone leaves the switch on, there might be a dispute over how many hours were used, and it's also going to skew your maintenance schedule.
Looking forward to the rental info. I've kind of thought about doing something similar. Problem is I'm limited by a 7500lb tow weight without upgrading the truck, and I'd still need to buy an equipment trailer.
Great suggestion! Im going to look into to that. I left the hour meter on for a couple days. Didnt realize that controlled it and now it has 169 hrs on it. Id like to swap it while its new with basically no hours anyway
I tow mine with a small plant trailer and my transit connect can tow 1350kg trailer 350kg machine around 7-800kg no trouble
Lol, the first thing I noticed is bolts where the pins should go?
More good info, thanks!
Hello Kyle. Great video with a lot of good information on the machine.
Take Care. Clint
Thanks Clinton!
Thanks for info
I had a Kubota mini X for 3 years, a U25, and I sold it after I got (I thought) all my projects done. One thing about these small machines, obvious i guess but when stored in a building they take up very little room, as compared to my Kubota tractor anyway. A great explanation here, I am getting tempted, again. I also sold my 14' dump bed trailer, another regret!
Great video. Keep up the great work.
I see... So you're saying sometimes having a 'small package' isn't always a bad thing... Got it. 👍🍻
Haha. I was going to make a joke in the video but i didnt. Another wasted opportunity
i owned a automotive machine shop for over 30 years early on i dealt with a couple of rental yards. Those guys went through hell trying to repair the damage weekend warriors did to the equipment. Trying to charge there card with obvious damage is a ruff game they will just call there bank. Then there is the hidden damage that pops up later. Also your going to need insurance and that's not cheap. No an LLC wont protect you. The equipment has to be high quality with all the safety features and those china excavators wont take the abuse and don't have the safety features. You could end up in court looking at a huge judgement.
Ya thats what im afraid of. Still havent decided if its worth doing. All it takes is one lawsuit.
Great video. I picked up a 2 ton groundhog last summer with a 24hp Kubota diesel. The bucket teeth are upside down in my opinion but I haven’t got around to flipping them like you did because I figured I was missing something. Please let us know if you find any problems with them being flipped.
Also I’ve been waiting to see what you came up with for hydraulic quick connects to cleanup the boom on your larger machine for the grading bucket. I added some hydraulic quick connects to mine but don’t love the way it came out. Its okay but I had to use quite a few adapters to make it happen.
I plan on doing the upgrade to the thumb and 3 way diverter soon. I have a couple more fittings i have to order still
Awesome as always
Just an idea... I have 16 inch bucket for my TYM backhoe. I got a 9 inch trenching bucket for it and it seems to dig stump roots and rocks easier. Also an option for folks renting it as I'm sure alot of them will be using it for pipes and trenching. Keep up the vids, Brother!!
Ya good idea. I believe they do offer a ripper tooth and trenching bucket. Would be good options to offer renters
I really like your humor. Reminds me of Dick Van Dyke. I have an intro/ press that like button idea. Remember when the coyote was chasing the roadrunner. There would be a painted tunnel on the wall. When he ran into it, he would get flattened. Having the keystone girl (lady) put a thumbs up button on the wall. Then you’d run and get flattened. Funny. Maybe I’m not saying this right. Anyway. Hope all is well.
Hah! Thats a good idea. I appreciate the suggestions. I might have to learn some better editing skills to make that look good.
you better off price wise to buy this than a backhoe attachment for your tractor!
Kyle, I'm a little confused on your what you're plan is, ... are you are going to rent the mini mini to the public without you being the operator on their job site? Or, are you going to be hauling the equipment on your own trailer and operating the mini mini?
Another great video, Brother! I so want a mini (and a skid steer, and a loader...I guess I'm still a big-ass kid!)!
Those are our toys now as adults.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC we don't grow up, our toys just get more expensive
The difference between men and boy's are the prices of their toys. Lol
I would be interested in the process of insuring and renting machines. Maybe a little business venture one might consider.
I definitely plan on sharing the details of the process. Would be a good little rental business/ side hustle for anyone.
Awesome! I’d be interested in seeing this too.
Wow, what a great video! Thank you so much. I learned a lot and it was funny in some places. Cool video!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful
Great video 👍
Why hasnt Parsley Equipment ordered a nice multi-layer steel sign .....
Love watching videos on these little machines. My wife on the other hand doesn’t lol I been talking bout buying one now 😂
Haha. Our toys are expensive
I find these very interesting but there’s a couple of things that I consider a problem…. The blade on the front doesn’t stick out far enough, four more inches would be good, it will make it more stable. The roll over protection is woefully inadequate from a safety perspective…. It can be fixed with a few extra crossbars welded in place. This one is well equipped and the thumb makes it much easier to pick something up, one modification to that would be to have a switch on the right hand main joystick like a normal excavator. I still think it’s interesting, thank you for taking the time to put together this video, it was very helpful. Be blessed.
And a 2 speed for transport
Thats a nice machine
Die Zähne am Löffel sind bei den chinabaggern immer auf der falschen Seite angebaut, so wie du die angebaut hast sind die Zähne richtig
I thought I saw somewhere that the bucket actually digs better with the teeth the way they were. Would be nice to confirm that.
Also, I wonder if a 1.5 ton with the extending tracks would be the optimal compact mini excavator.
Id have to test it on some hard clay to really test that. Which i do plan on doing this summer. And yes the extendable tracks are a great feature
I enjoy the intros. Oh without using the floor mat maybe go to HF and get some stick on grip tape
Thanks buddy!
Just saw a video of a guy that has this excavator. Everything is rusting especially if the paint got scratched but also without that.
Sounds like he doesnt take care of it.
@@SpicerDesignsLLCHow much care does a painted steel bar need. How much care do screws need? It was all rusting. Otherwise the excavator didn't look like it was used much.
I dont disagree that the machines are cheap. Thats why theyre so popular. If you see one thats rusted out does that mean they all are? Mine looks like brand new still.
Good job
I designed backhoe and loader buckets for Cat in the 80's. All of the teeth angled the way you changed them to. I'm not sure why they would put them on upside down, unless I'm missing something.
Ya idk either. They all seem to be like that too. Thanks for the confirmation
That Kymron xh26d is a decent looking excavator, but for $29,900 that's high imo for anything built by China.
See, you want it cheap, how do you want China to provide you reliable products if you are reluctant to pay for what it is worth?
you seem to have missed the point that it's built in China and upgraded in US.
Ok why do you name 30k when he says he got it for 8500?
What degree of slope can it climb and go sideways on without tipping on its side. Looks like I would make a wider track for traction and stability. You could make custom tracks with your plasma table and some 3/16 plate and new rollers. Then you also would have the option for some spring loaded suspension for the center rollers. that would help with traction when you go across a rock or limb or anything that would hicenter a track. you could sell kits for it. It looks like so much fun to operate. You're my favorite channel on TH-cam. KEEP DOING THE GOOFY STUFF AND HAVE FUN. Life is too short to not have all the fun you can. That kymron makes me think I could buy it as a toy for me but justify it by saying is a useful peace of equipment That I could make money with. LOL Well have a wonderful day.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear your liking the channel. The price point is right on these little machines for a toy or investment. Or both. They do offer that model with extendable tracks too.
I’d call that grading attachment “the Brazilian”
You can be stupid AND funny. 😉
Slapstick is one of the most pure forms of comedy. Carry on. 😄
Thank you!
Teeth are correct how you have them. Same way the teeth on my takeuchi mini ex, mahindra tractor, amd new holland skid steer are installed from the factory.
when will we see videos on the rental agreement plans and insurance?
Love the videos man.
Still have some things to work through before i get to that. Trying to have it ready for spring
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thanks for the reply !!
Kimron add a fan to the engine compartment.
Sorry, are you asking or telling me about it?
@@SpicerDesignsLLC , watched a video on another channel and the engine compartment fan kicked on when the key was turned on. Good video and I like the idea of dealing with a company in US.
Ok got it. I thought i saw an update on Kymrons youtube channel stating they have an optional cooling fan now.
Web site has the prices, now that is a great starting point. They need to be painted in WHITE. Black is way to hot. Aridzona starts at 100 degrees in the summer. They need a dealership in Aridzona. That is the machine I'm looking to buy, but not in Black. US aircraft have used flush type grease fitting for decades. Image if the USA went metric decades ago. Great video, your a very good spokes person, Voice is clear, information is clearly communicated You can drive them into your home operate them with the windows closed, Until you pass out. You got the teeth upside down, the reason is to allow the dirt to flow out easier.. The teeth as you have them retains more dirt. Even using round head bolts would be a plus in inside the bucket.. I plan on using this machine to remove Mesquite trees, and put them into a wood chipper. For the price , I think it is a very fair price. WHITE PAINT JOBS!
They do offer white paint. They have a lot of colors to choose from.
Nice Job buddy! Don’t stop the silliness now!😅 The Karen’s will always look for stuff to complain about! 🚜🙌💪🇺🇸
Thanks and very true
Would be a lot more compelling if they had a flat rate for shipping, or handled shipping on their end instead of dumping it all on the customer once they have their money.
Flat rate seems unrealistic because everything is shipped to different addresses.
You know before you send cash, pretty easy to make a plan.
Depends on the company you get it through, alibaba is pretty consistent.
You can get it pretty cheap if you have it transferred to a port, and pick it up for a lot less than shipping to you.
Find a company here that has them in stock! They have them all over the US
@@juarezderrick9647any you can name ? Thanks !
I love your intros
I have a Chinees tractor. I caught hell with customs over the sticker on the engine, Kohler diesel, CBP says the sticker must be on the rear of the engine, which it was, but wheel loaders mount the engine rear forward. It cost me several grand to have Kohler come out place a sticker on the FRONT of the engine before they'd release it. Hydraulics are standard European, easy to get. Chinees hydraulic compression fittings are by far the BEST hydraulic fittings I've ever used, but are hard to find locally, anywhere in the US so get use to ordering adaptors in case a hose pops you can use standard hoses. That machine looks like it only has 3/8 & 1/2 in hoses so a couple NPT to Compression fittings is all you need in an emergency to pick a standard hose from a local shop and fit it. NPT, BSP & Metric pipe threads are similar but different. If it's on pumps or valves it'll be BSPP, cylinders will be metric, trust me I'm saving you a lot of frustration
Thanks for the info. Ive been doing a lot of research lately on the fitting. Bought a tool that can identify fittings too. Ill be showing that in an upcoming video.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thanks The world is changing so it's something people will have to get use to. Those compression fittings can be slightly over finger tight and not leak, you don't have to crank on them
Works better than a shovel
Always comical!!!
missed opportunity for a "machine" shots counter
Good video!
Thank you!
Personally I like the humor.
Someone needs to make a brush cutter for these things.
They do make a flail mower for the slightly larger models
Well done. Think a 6'5" dude could fit in that "machine"?
I dont know. We could find out…. I know a guy
My yanmar 20 is almost to small.?? I tryed to take a maple out. I didn’t get 6 inches before nothing . . I can barely take big furs out. 6 foot deep. 6 hours 😮
The intros make me chuckle. haha
Thats what i hope for. I try to keep these videos as entertaining as i can. Thanks Nathan!
It’s worth it…….you made me laugh
I’m between the XH20D and the XH26 that you have any thoughts on the 20 series diesels ?
I was in the same boat. I went with the 26 because i wanted the extra weight and reach. All depends on what you plan on using it for.
Looks very similar to my Groundhog 14G-2. Wondering, I havent taken mine down a steep slope yet so for Groundhog, dont know if it has a brake valve to keep it from free-wheeling down steep slopes. Have you confirmed whether the Kymron has or does not have a brake valve to keep it from freewheeling?
Ya they are basically the same. Im not sure on the freewheeling. Ive takin mine down some slopes and haven’t had it takin off on me.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Great. That means it does have a brake valve to keep from freewheeling. Otherwise, if you were on a slope and kept the track controls in drive on a steep slope it would freewheel which is uber dangerous. Some of these Chinese mini's dont have the brake valve but, will stop on a slope if you let go the track control back to neutral. that will stop them from freewheeling. However, if you were to freewheel a bit gaining some speed and then move controls to neutrual, they would slam to a stop. Again, uber dangerous. So, I suspect then, both the Kymron and my Groundhog are both brake valve equipped. Will find out today.........cautiously......Thanks for the vids they are helpful.
These things are cheaper than the backhoe attachment for my tractor. 😢 Maybe time to sell it for one of these.
I agree. I considered a backhoe too. I determined the mini was more capable and maneuverable
ahh the machine??
Trailer...what type...how much. Machine entry price could easily be doubled or more by the cost of the trailer!
I've seen a few videos about long term ownership of these chinese mini excavators. What irks me the most about these machines isn't with the mechanics and hydraulics, but with the boom itself. I have yet to see one of these that won't get really sloppy after only 50-100 hours on it. Are the Kymron specced with hardened bushings?
Im not sure on that one. That would be a concern for me too. I can ask the owner to get more info.
Those teeth upside down would play havoc on your OCD! I agree tho you have it set up. What I would say is the correct way. Hey I missed the spicer buck tooth video 😢
Its the grading edge i made. I thought you saw that one
@@SpicerDesignsLLC looks like I was busy that day and just liked it and never watched. I just watched and I was enjoying your skills on display.
I'm with you, I've seen other you tubers videos, that got their machines directly. The cheap price almost doubled. I would rather deal with a dealer in the U.S. I have a Y H 14 on order. Ron and Adam are great to deal with. I like your videos, help to sell me on them. Se if they will give you a commision?
Congrats on your machine. Ron and Adam are great guys. Its nice to have an affordable option for these mini excavators.
I have a KYMRON XH22D and its top notch!
Gm funny as always
Not trying to sell it to me?! Then why do I want it! 😂
Hah! I guess i am a salesman. They are nice machines to have on the property.
Have you had any problems with it?
I know that particular unit doesn't come with a oil cooler. But ill be finding out soon as I just got one i should be getting it first part of may i was told btw thanks for the videos as it helped me decide that I wanted one
I dont have a lot of hours on it but so far no issues. They did just start adding an oil cooler to these units. They mentioned it in there last video.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC
Well hopefully mine will come with one
Doesn't matter though... It's a easy thing to source... honestly I have been looking at all the mini excavators and these appear to be superior than the rest and having the ability to get parts if and when you need them is paramount....
Thanks again for helping me make my decision
@@jprice-ss4bz no problem. Good luck with your purchase
Not a bad looking unit. If I was going to invest in a digger of that size range I would prefer to buy a Kubota over this.
Just because the engine is American made doesn't mean it's better. Kymron should have chosen Honda, Kohler or Kawasaki instead of Briggs. There's a reason why Briggs and Stratton is often called "Breaks and Scrap'em" Also, that particular engine is a Honda clone. There are other American engine companies that make to regulations and those include LCT, Kohler and Champion. Heck, I would probably pull the Briggs, sell it and put a Honda, Kohler or another Chinese clone in its place. As you can probably tell, I have had mostly negative experiences with Briggs and Stratton.
If the US started was using SI units, you wouldn't have to convert everything from a simple metric-based system to the archaic (even the UK doesn't officially use it anymore) Imperial. Also, Kg is pretty easy. One kilogram is equal to 2.2 Earth pounds. I say Earth pounds as Kilograms are actually a unit of mass and pounds is a measurement of weight. Weight, which is a force, usually takes mass and multiplies it together with acceleration (in this case, roughly 9.8m/s/s, Earth's gravitational acceleration)
You cant have too much grease... Thats true,,,,,
How long will the hydraulic pumps and motors last?
No idea
I watched you use this right after you brought it home. Man, I think they are a little too small! You almost came out of the seat trying to take down some saplings! The larger one you purchased seems like a much better rig. I'd be afraid to rent the small one!
These Chinese micro excavators are too powerful for their weight and track size. The hydraulics can lift and dig far more than the counter balance. That is why he was bucking back and forth when using it.
Too powerful? Surely, you're joking?@@andrewgee241
It's about skill of operator in a small machine it's different than a large machine you have to get a feel for it more dangerous which sounds counterintuitive but is true big ones easy
Can you get armrest controls?
On the next size up you can. The gas models are all backhoe style controls as far as i know ow
small enough to fit under a Christmas tree!!!
I purchased a MMS13 . And I am very happy that an AMERICAN COMPANY HAS GOTTEN INTO THE MINI EXCAVATOR BUSSNESS....I am looken for an AUGER attachment my my EXCAVATOR any ideas....
I know Kymron offers an auger for their minis. Im just not sure on the fitment between brands
Always funny.
That is an awesome looking machine and I’m sure it is fun to use.
Ya its a really handy machine to have on the property. Its practical for most projects
better than what? Definitely better than having to use a shovel, but not much else.
Better than the auction models. I said this in the video.
So K&R sells Kymron excavators and the owner is named Ron. Is his wife named Kym?
Im not sure what his wife’s name is. But i think the brand does tie into there names one way or another
Need a wider foot print...or outriggers
Just have to get a larger machine. This model does have option expandable tracks
Likkkey pressed good video the falling is a bonus. Keep it up oh I am talking about the videos for real does everyone have their mind in the gutter I know I do LOL.
Hah! Thanks. I took a couple falls in the next one. Only one was staged
Only thing I don’t like is where the thumb lever is, you damn near need 3 arms now😂😂 and great move on changing the teeth!
Ya its a little awkward. That is the cheaper version of the 14. The better version has a foot pedal for the thumb
I'm curious how an agt machine holds up to renting.
Idk. I wouldnt buy one of them. Ive heard nothing but problems. And no parts
I liked
What were you doing to that poor roof? Lol
Testing. It passed
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Lol!
great video! did you finance? im looking to buy one from ROn!
They do offer financing options. Rons a good guy. Easy to work with
Hows it holding up so far? I’m looking at ordering one
Its been good. No issues. I dont have a lot of hours on it though
Quick question how much you think that machine can be rented for per day .
" Boll Park"
I was thinking around $250 a day is reasonable. I would prefer to deliver and pick up myself too. So it may increase a bit. I would have a daily rate, weekend rate, and weekly rate too.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC thanks for the info . Sounds about right with pricing $250 is fair
Hey man im still having trouble setting up rotary in lightburn or something im doing is wrong can you help me out its still crashing hate it just wanna do some friggin tumblerz "its always the tumblerz"
Email me and ill try to work you through it. Email is in the description or my channel page
@SpicerDesignsLLC sweet brotha can I tomorrow I'm off to sleep work in the am brotha
Where can you order one of these mini excavator at
I did go over all this info in the video. I also have website links pinned in the comments and description. Along with dealer locations.