@@artman40 It is not closely related to Elon Musk, It's other companies execution of a rehashed idea by Elon Musk. And, Elon Musk's impact on the world is not to be ignored, even if he speaks in Elon time.
@@skunkjobb he brought it back in attention and people listened. It is not enough who and when invented something if that invention does not impact the world. The people making it happen are just as important. it's a whole link that needs to happen for an idea to have actual value to the society.
No1 - Achieving and maintaining a vacuum (No leaks anywhere EVER!). The best compromise they'll have is a partial vacuum for reduced air resistance. No2 - No earthquake areas only suitable. No3 - Requires huge amounts of energy to run pumps & maglev. Not cheap or low carbon footprint. No4 - How will they board train without either having highly efficient airlocks or sealed-off boarding areas? With the number of different doors or sealed-off stations at several stations on a daily working line, the risks of depressurization accidents rises exponentially. They're also talking about putting people's automobiles on these things. The complexity of maintaining a vacuum becomes in my opinion unreasonable. No5 - Must keep vacuum under certain tor to avoid catastrophic implosions. No6 - If under ground how will they access the train if there is a problem and it's stuck between stations? Will they need to also build access & maintenance tunnels? If above ground they will need to protect the tube(s) from any impacts or vastly different temperatures. In any case the entire vacuum would be lost if an access portal were to be opened, requiring huge amounts of time to reactuate the vacuum. Ever seen how long it takes to get a decent vacuum in even a small vacuum chamber? Imagine doing that for a 3 meter wide 500 mile tube!! Personally I think there are far too many problems for it to ever become practical. In addition, it's ALWAYS at least 2-3 times more expensive to construct, run & maintain than touted by the promoters. Elon Musk's boring costs are NOT much cheaper than other companies for example. Finally, Elon did NOT invent or come up with the idea of a vacuum tube form of transportation. That's been around for more than a century. Even the maglev "hyperloop" idea was immediately considered after it's first inception decades before Elon even got his start.
I mean, what did you expect... they mentioned the dynamic tower in dubai (which is only a concept presented years ago) and proceeded to show the evolution tower in russia...
@Kifwoo Here's one way the science doesn't work. The video mentioned you would be transporting up to 10 000 people an hour. Let's assume that that is both ways. That is still 5000 people, one way, per hour. The prototype pod designs I've seen so far average around 24 people in a pod, but let's be generous again and say you can get 50 people in a single pod. That would still be 100 pods every hour or one pod every 36 seconds. Let that sink in for a second. pods, doing more than 1200km/h, spaced only 36 seconds apart. Today we need more spacing than that on vehicles that go far slower, just to ensure they can stop in time if something does happen in front. The estimates I have seen so far vary a little, but it looks like you'll be able to transport roughly around 2000, maybe 2500 people an hour through the hyperloop, making it a transportation system for the rich and few. While a regular train, that is slower, can take more than 10 times that amount of passengers without issue.
@Kifwoo That's not what the 2 second rule in a car is about. If you are on a highway and you manage to stop your car in 2 seconds, you've slammed into something. The 2 second rule exists to compensate for your reaction time. If the car in front of you hits the brakes, you need about 1 second to register that event and start the action of braking yourself. That's why you should keep at least 2 seconds distance from the car in front of you. The 2 second rule is NOT related to stopping distance what so ever. And yes, a train with steel wheels on steel tracks has a maximum deceleration of 1.2m/s². What the max deceleration for a hyperloop is going to be? We don't know. And larger pods? We call that trains, and those do not fit into the view of Hyperloop that promised is quick and easy pods that would take us directly to the station nearest to our destination with a pod ready to go almost every minute. The larger the pod, the more time those pods will lose on (dis)embarking passengers and thus keeping the platforms occupied, but also the less likely that you will get a denser network of stations in cities so you can go from A to B directly without having to change as you have with public transport today. Or think about it another way: if Musk was so sure about Hyperloop, why isn't he investing in it? He made the hype 7 years ago but today, it is quiet. Even with The Boring Company he went from aiming for an underground Hyperloop, to Loop with pods to Loop with Tesla cars. He knows that it will still take decades before we can solve all the issues and maybe make it a commercially viable enterprise.
@Kifwoo It's not experimental technology, the idea has been around for a century. The reason it hasn't been built is the same reason as HG Wells' time machine - it's a silly dream for people who don't understand science and people who do understand science, but are prepared to fleece idiots for their money.
In 1904, while Robert H. Goddard was a student at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Massachusetts, his professor of creative writing asked his class to write a theme on the subject of what travel might be like in 1950. Goddard imagined what it might be like to travel in a mag lev train that shot at high speed through an airless tunnel.
I’m saying it now!! This “transportation “ word they’re using is more than just a word. They are slowly progressing to have limitless ways of engaging speeds and forcing faster travel time with “technology” but in reality their goal is to ultimately try to have flying cars and/or be able to “teleport”! Remember, “trans-PORT”-“tele-PORT”….”transfer” the body from one place to another, no matter the circumstances!
4:58 "Compare to traditional trains with wheel" Shows maglev train that use magnetic levitation just like hyperloop and doesn't have a single wheel lol
They (virgin) built a test track and shot acouple of enployees a few hundred meters. Then they laid off like 50% of their workforce and said they would no longer focus on developing it as a means of mass transportation. It’s a cool idea, but there are a lot of issues which make it impractical. I personally think it is idiotic and would be much happier if people would be more excited by proven solutions like high speed rail. This video is just hyping-up a bunch of bullshit.
Nope. There are a few short (~100m) test tracks here and there. Enough to keep investors hopeful & the press interested - but nothing more. It's a money pit.
Over 100 year old idea that is still too technically difficult and outrageously expensive to build. Just build a regular train and be done with it. Computer graphics are.... still only computer graphics.
Building a hyperloop between two cities some 90 minutes apart seems a bit overkill. A conventional HSR train can cover the same distance in half hour or less. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to build a hyperloop to replace longer distances, one that is normally covered by a commercial airliner? Also one of the concept design shows passengers sitting in forward and reverse facing seats. I would think it would make more sense to have all of them facing forward considering the acceleration that the passengers will be subjected to.
Given that in any pipe leak incident they would likely be subjected to *sudden* deceleration, ...no I don't think that acceleration is our biggest worry here.
Title says "Inside Dubai's $22 Billion Dollar Hyperloop" 1. At no point is anything "inside" shown. 2. It isn't a 22 Billion Dollar Project, but 22 Billion Dinars accoring to the video. Hyperloop is defined in the video as a train in a tube running in a vacuum. Video says a section will be running by the end of 2020 - that is close. They should be running the system in now, with real people inside real "pods" to fix teething problems. But in reality, we don't know of a single tube having been built yet, or anything about "pods". The video says 750mph - in vacuum. That is pointless. 300mph in air will still make a 30minute journey from Dubai to Abu Dhabi - in any case you still have to get in and out of pods, and get to your final destination, the 15minutes saved between 750mph and 300mph is a multi-billion dollar folly.
👤🗣💥 Someone should comment on the economic boast Dubai received in 2013 and 2014 after dual national multibillionaire Towery Maurice Burris-Hunt moved to the Emirate part time. After arriving in 2013 he began acquiring expensive Realestate. He acquired interest in Burj Khalifa Burj Al Arab. He owns Gevora Hotel W Hotel JBR properties. A restuarant and car dealership empire. A billion plus in real estate in 8months. He is considered the wealthiest heir in America. In 2013 he is recognized as the J.P Morgan blood heir (2013 inheritance of equity stock) beneficiary grandson of billionaire Johnny Bryan Hunt (Equity stock) and beneficiary of Casey Kasem estate in Los Angeles California. He is the XX that is being branded due to a publicly known identity theft and nationality issue ongoing. He teamed with Elon Musk and Space X.
I think it would be a problem but not too much to overcome after all on the international space station they have to change pressure when they go in and out so something like that could work
@@joelcairns8375 even small airlocks are quite slow. When talking about an airlock that would fit a train inside, you are looking at tens of minutes of pumping the air out (remember that 12 min travel time). Of course you could keep the train in the vacum at stations and make a seal around the doors, but really thats the least of your worries. What you should worry about is thermal expansion. If you build your tube out of steel, say 100km long,temperature change from 0C to 60C will change the length of the tube by approximately 80m. Also, the top of the tube is exposed to direct sunlight while the bottom is more or less in shade. This may cause some deforming, which may lead to sudden collapse of the tube. The structure would also become the largest vacuum chamber in the world, and would most likely suffer from leaks (I mean, we seemingly can't even build oilpipes that wouldn't leak) and therefore would require continuous pumping. But, at the moment there is absolutely no working prototype of the hyperloop. In all the shown footage the "hyperloop" was pushed by what is essentially a small electric car, or rolling on wheels and stopping because of friction.
@@elmeriseppinen I seriously doubt they could make seals around the doors work. But, if they make the airlocks just a little bigger than the pods, there's not much air that needs to be removed, so maybe it would only take a couple of minutes. But it is not providing condifence when they don't show any real stuff.
If Elon Musk won't even touch it (his Boring Company is not making a hyperloop, contrary to what the video says), how can Richard Branson, a billionaire turned millionaire that has been failing for decades in all his business ventures and has no technical expertise of his own, be anything but a scam?
One single word comes to my mind listening to this video: Theranos. If its too good to be true, it most likely is. They don't even have proof of concept at scale. This is literally a hype train.
Yes, and if your boss doesn't like you for some reason he can confiscate your passport and stop paying you without having to worry for justice. And all those workers who build that stuff, treated like sub humans. So cool.
I've sold hyperloops to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map! Now DubaI is on the map , and it only needs proper sewage .
While the entire world is pushing innovation to its limits, the United States is moving backwards. Y’all, we can’t even get COVID under control. It’s not just about birthing innovative companies, it’s about applying them in the states. Either way, exciting times.
👤🗣💥 Someone should comment on the economic boast Dubai received in 2013 and 2014 after dual national multibillionaire Towery Maurice Burris-Hunt moved to the Emirate part time. After arriving in 2013 he began acquiring expensive Realestate. He acquired interest in Burj Khalifa Burj Al Arab. He owns Gevora Hotel W Hotel JBR properties. A restuarant and car dealership empire. A billion plus in real estate in 8months. He is considered the wealthiest heir in America. In 2013 he is recognized as the J.P Morgan blood heir (2013 inheritance of equity stock) beneficiary grandson of billionaire Johnny Bryan Hunt (Equity stock) and beneficiary of Casey Kasem estate in Los Angeles California. He is the XX that is being branded due to a publicly known identity theft and nationality issue ongoing. He teamed with Elon Musk and Space X.
Just because it CAN be built doesn’t mean it should. Look at all the empty floors on those Dubai skyscrapers. Also the A380. Not economically viable for the rest of the world, where profitability is a key component of feasibility.
@ nope. In indian this kind of mass transit is not feasible for a while actually. We as consumers are more value dependent than novelty dependent. There are no official statements for hyperloop consttruction too
Oh well.. it will be built... just like Starship and Dragon were built and you guys cried about that. Back to the lose Thunderf00t videos.. the guy who has invented nothing and done nothing with his life... just like you.
I was in Dubai last year. I flew from Hamburg with Emirates A380. It's amazing there! I would like to fly there again, I hope next year. I can recommend it to everybody you have to see this city! The people there are so friendly. Greetings from Germany! and fu*k Corona!!
1:03 Yeah right, a city that builds skyscrapers without even thinking of a proper waste management system is a world leader in architectural innovation.
@@cambobby2011 what the other guy said, also because it's annoying to us car enthusiasts. The Veyron and Chiron are two different cars. This channel should know that.
Elon revived the idea of hyperloop but didn't invent it. For my own, I've read about the concept when I was a teenager in the 80s in a French science magazine titled "Sciences et Vie (Sciences and Life). It was the same idea as the hyperloop and it was supposed to link New York city and Los Angeles
Can we just for a second, talk about how at the end he talked about a spinning tower in dubai, but showed a tower that is located in moscow, russia, that dosnt even spin
@@cmarentis No, Thunderf00t debunked the concept on assumptions. Sure, the way Elon has presented the idea is with flaws. But Thunderf00t assumed the tube would have to be emptied before each ride. And he complained about a bit of rust. Build a mag lev train as the Japanese, ride it in a tube with 0.3 bar pressure. That would be a valid idea. You don't need to go full 0 bars. Thunderf00t is right most of the time, just not in this case.
Here are some laws of physics not safe to defy: •At 750mph, a pod/cart cannot EVER land/touch a track, such as infinate levitaion on these express lanes (Mag-Flight! not Mag-lev or that fast with Mag-Net) •In a tunnel, there must be a ally path/tubes adjacent for construction workers to render or passager evacuations. •high vacuum of air will cause heat build up on outer surface of the pods/craft (like a re-entry into Earth atmospher). •emergeny oxygen mask, like on airplanes will acquire on Hyperloop/Virgin. •pod-in-pod passenger chambers in outer craft frame, will aquire for tilt G-force & reduced risk on crackes & leak of air.
"compared to traditional trains, the slow ones with wheels" - shows video of Shanghai maglev which is currently one of the fastest trains in the world...
@@ahmadabed3615 Why would being gay make a difference to an engineering problem? It will not exist, it can not exist, it makes no sense from either a financial point of view or from an engineering point of view. You are welcome to try to persuade me otherwise, but you will have to do better than "u gay?" and "stfu" these are the sort of arguments only a moron would use. Don't be shy, I have some engineering experience,(I think I will be able to keep up) tell us all how the engineering problems can be solved. I'm sure we would all like to know. Some one as intelligent and articulate as you, must have some idea. One last thing, just in case you were asking if I was gay because you wanted a date. I'm sorry but the answer is no, I'm not gay, sorry to disappoint you. Keep looking I'm sure you will find someone very nice one day. Your wit and intellect will surely win someones heart.
Tickets : “Hey buddy u want too go on a hyperloop ? “ Guy : “Yeah sure just lemme take 6 dollars out “ Tickets : *laughs* lets make that a 1000 times more “
That's a bull statement to make Elon had the idea first, wanting to travel in Vacuum tubes has been proposed for a long time, for the fact that it will be super cumbersome to maintain is why it has not been built yet. Basic Technical issue: First create a vacuum and ensure the tube holds the seal, Second: make sure the capsule vehicle holds pressure from the inside and no leaks, third: Keep people alive inside and hope the capsule never fails inside and the vacuum sucks out all the breathing air and kills people.
A few problems... How are you accounting for expansion during the warm day versus contraction on the cold nights? Bad enough in temperate climates but Saudi Arabia is notorious for brutal heat during the day and almost ice like cold at night. You know, being a desert and all. Over the length, it'll amount to requiring very flimsy gas seals at the intersections. Also, the upper surface will be under direct sunlight and will expand at at different rate to the underside of the tube which will be in the shade. I mean, your snazzy CGI movie shows a continuous length but in reality, it can't be manufactured like that. It will have to be in sections and those sections will require gas seals. What happens when one of of those seals breaks and the vacuum sucks in a metric ton worth of air which slams into an oncoming train? That's a few tons worth of lightweight, composite train traveling at the speed of sound hitting a metric ton of air, also traveling at the speed of sound, in a head-on collision... It would be anarchy. Real wrath of God type stuff. We're talking, "picking up" bodies with buckets and sponges. These are just some of the very real problems these kinds of systems face and I'm willing to bet none of you so-called "engineers" have even bothered to address them. Hell, the idea of trains traveling in vacuums is over 100 years old. There is a very good reason it still hasn't been done today though. Still, having said all that, if the Saudi's want to piss their money up the wall only to have an epic, global news coverage type accident where a lot of people die, let them.
Presumably the same way they deal with gas and oil pipes... expansion joints. The upper surface meanwhile if you read the Alpha proposal (which you haven't) is meant to be covered by solar panels running across the top of the tubes the entire length of the system. As to chance of a catastrophic vacuum breach, there will be pressure relief valves every few hundred meters or so, so any release of pressure will not be the doomsday scenario you are suggesting because there are people much much smarter than you.. and much richer who have thought about these things. But don't worry... keep the Thunderf00t grift going... I mean that guys a genius with all his inventions such as... oh wait... he's never invented anything in his life.
Real engineers realised that it was COMPLETE AND UTTER BOLLOCKS in the first place. It's the childlike adulation of celebrity LUNATICS like Elon Musk to blame for its popularity. Anyway, it's March 2022 and Virgin Hyperloop just laid off half its staff. It can't be long until they shut it down completely now and it'll be the fitting end fir this IMBECILIC FANTASY !
Furthermore, since you are in a vacuum, engineers need to find a way to provide continuous oxygen for its passengers. Also how would they maintain a vacuum seal when passengers get on and off?
Elon Musk did not start Tesla. He was a risk capital investor that bought into the company after its creation and after the first concepts of the roadster were already designed and in prototyping.... He did start SpaceX though.
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Would you ride in one?
yep if i wont become a skeleton after getting out
ofcourse
Yes!!!
*Nope*
Yessss
"Three times quicker than a Bugatti Veyron"
Shows Chiron. -.-
I said the same thing🤦🏽♂️
Exactly 😑😑😑
I was about to comment what you said and then I saw yours. Haha
just ugh haha
See all us car guys know this is bs lmao
Not one photo of current progress in the construction of the "soon to be completed" hyperloop.
or talks about how they will handle explosives or accidents
I'd like to remind you that this thing is closely related to Elon Musk. You know, the person who promised a manned mission to the Moon by 2017.
@@artman40 It is not closely related to Elon Musk, It's other companies execution of a rehashed idea by Elon Musk.
And, Elon Musk's impact on the world is not to be ignored, even if he speaks in Elon time.
@@Daniela-pr7rz It's not Musk's idea, the idea has been around since 1799 and was patented in 1950.
@@skunkjobb he brought it back in attention and people listened.
It is not enough who and when invented something if that invention does not impact the world. The people making it happen are just as important.
it's a whole link that needs to happen for an idea to have actual value to the society.
The hyped up loop has never had an accident, has never killed anyone, has a perfect record...oh wait, it does not exist, does it?
No1 - Achieving and maintaining a vacuum (No leaks anywhere EVER!). The best compromise they'll have is a partial vacuum for reduced air resistance. No2 - No earthquake areas only suitable. No3 - Requires huge amounts of energy to run pumps & maglev. Not cheap or low carbon footprint. No4 - How will they board train without either having highly efficient airlocks or sealed-off boarding areas? With the number of different doors or sealed-off stations at several stations on a daily working line, the risks of depressurization accidents rises exponentially. They're also talking about putting people's automobiles on these things. The complexity of maintaining a vacuum becomes in my opinion unreasonable. No5 - Must keep vacuum under certain tor to avoid catastrophic implosions. No6 - If under ground how will they access the train if there is a problem and it's stuck between stations? Will they need to also build access & maintenance tunnels? If above ground they will need to protect the tube(s) from any impacts or vastly different temperatures. In any case the entire vacuum would be lost if an access portal were to be opened, requiring huge amounts of time to reactuate the vacuum. Ever seen how long it takes to get a decent vacuum in even a small vacuum chamber? Imagine doing that for a 3 meter wide 500 mile tube!! Personally I think there are far too many problems for it to ever become practical. In addition, it's ALWAYS at least 2-3 times more expensive to construct, run & maintain than touted by the promoters. Elon Musk's boring costs are NOT much cheaper than other companies for example. Finally, Elon did NOT invent or come up with the idea of a vacuum tube form of transportation. That's been around for more than a century. Even the maglev "hyperloop" idea was immediately considered after it's first inception decades before Elon even got his start.
@Dj Mitchi3 just because you read at a 3rd grade level doesn't mean other people can't read quickly.
It's unfortunate the idea has gained that much traction despite not even touching on these fundamental issues.
@Dj Mitchi3 By "no one" you mean yourself.
@Dj Mitchi3 That's a tough claim coming from you mr. no one with broken English.
Prostates could suck the air out of the tube.
One day people will look back at this technology and laugh. "I can't believe they couldn't teleport"
"Idiots"
Probably not but maybe yes
I'm working on that project .. trust me it ain't that easy
"Bruuh they didn't even get to half the speed of light"🤦🏾♂️🤣
@@blakekemak2340 it's a joke
TheRichest : "The hyperloop is 3 times faster than a Bugatti Veyron!"
**Proceeds to show a picture of a Bugatti Chiron**
These guys dont know anything about cars and it drives me mad
I mean, what did you expect... they mentioned the dynamic tower in dubai (which is only a concept presented years ago) and proceeded to show the evolution tower in russia...
Kevin Hedenvang I’m not a car guy and even I can tell the difference between the Chiron and the veyron
@@AjithPrabhus ikr
LOL
A lot of science channel debunk the hyperloop showing serious problems that are very hard to overcome.
Tha doesn't justify all the money that the they throw to the garbage
@Kifwoo Here's one way the science doesn't work. The video mentioned you would be transporting up to 10 000 people an hour. Let's assume that that is both ways. That is still 5000 people, one way, per hour. The prototype pod designs I've seen so far average around 24 people in a pod, but let's be generous again and say you can get 50 people in a single pod. That would still be 100 pods every hour or one pod every 36 seconds.
Let that sink in for a second. pods, doing more than 1200km/h, spaced only 36 seconds apart. Today we need more spacing than that on vehicles that go far slower, just to ensure they can stop in time if something does happen in front.
The estimates I have seen so far vary a little, but it looks like you'll be able to transport roughly around 2000, maybe 2500 people an hour through the hyperloop, making it a transportation system for the rich and few. While a regular train, that is slower, can take more than 10 times that amount of passengers without issue.
@Kifwoo That's not what the 2 second rule in a car is about. If you are on a highway and you manage to stop your car in 2 seconds, you've slammed into something. The 2 second rule exists to compensate for your reaction time. If the car in front of you hits the brakes, you need about 1 second to register that event and start the action of braking yourself. That's why you should keep at least 2 seconds distance from the car in front of you. The 2 second rule is NOT related to stopping distance what so ever.
And yes, a train with steel wheels on steel tracks has a maximum deceleration of 1.2m/s². What the max deceleration for a hyperloop is going to be? We don't know.
And larger pods? We call that trains, and those do not fit into the view of Hyperloop that promised is quick and easy pods that would take us directly to the station nearest to our destination with a pod ready to go almost every minute. The larger the pod, the more time those pods will lose on (dis)embarking passengers and thus keeping the platforms occupied, but also the less likely that you will get a denser network of stations in cities so you can go from A to B directly without having to change as you have with public transport today.
Or think about it another way: if Musk was so sure about Hyperloop, why isn't he investing in it? He made the hype 7 years ago but today, it is quiet. Even with The Boring Company he went from aiming for an underground Hyperloop, to Loop with pods to Loop with Tesla cars. He knows that it will still take decades before we can solve all the issues and maybe make it a commercially viable enterprise.
@Kifwoo It's not experimental technology, the idea has been around for a century. The reason it hasn't been built is the same reason as HG Wells' time machine - it's a silly dream for people who don't understand science and people who do understand science, but are prepared to fleece idiots for their money.
@@j2me991 its remind me the A380 airbus..
In 1904, while Robert H. Goddard was a student at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Massachusetts, his professor of creative writing asked his class to write a theme on the subject of what travel might be like in 1950. Goddard imagined what it might be like to travel in a mag lev train that shot at high speed through an airless tunnel.
oh wow
Really....Now that was true forward thinking.( Just have oxygen tanks inside for "each passenger" , just incase .😬) I would ride it though.
It's one thing to IMAGINE an idea, much dumber to try and make it real.
I’m saying it now!! This
“transportation “ word they’re using is more than just a word. They are slowly progressing to have limitless ways of engaging speeds and forcing faster travel time with “technology” but in reality their goal is to ultimately try to have flying cars and/or be able to “teleport”! Remember, “trans-PORT”-“tele-PORT”….”transfer” the body from one place to another, no matter the circumstances!
@@Leotheking1313 Star Trek type stuff. Pure fantasy. Can happen only on a TV/film set.
4:58 "Compare to traditional trains with wheel"
Shows maglev train that use magnetic levitation just like hyperloop and doesn't have a single wheel lol
Because maglev trains are simple
@@sergiodiaz1365 yet they work, not like hyperloop
“Inside the train” doesn’t actually show video of the inside
Will Godar but it really does
Because it doesn't exist. Its an entire scam.
No fear. You will have access with tickets 🎟🎟🎟.
Go to 2:34
Are any Hyperloops actually completed? I’ve read there are a lot of skeptics that think there are some huge issues with this technology
No. They haven't even done a full scale, full speed test.
They (virgin) built a test track and shot acouple of enployees a few hundred meters. Then they laid off like 50% of their workforce and said they would no longer focus on developing it as a means of mass transportation.
It’s a cool idea, but there are a lot of issues which make it impractical. I personally think it is idiotic and would be much happier if people would be more excited by proven solutions like high speed rail.
This video is just hyping-up a bunch of bullshit.
Hyperloop are uneconomical & unsafe. Debunked several times
Nope. There are a few short (~100m) test tracks here and there. Enough to keep investors hopeful & the press interested - but nothing more. It's a money pit.
This sounds like the biggest scam since Theranos..
shut it thunderfoot
How can you not believe in these fancy CGI xD
Ah, been watching that Thunderf00t clown too haven't you!
@@RedHeadForester Been smelling Elon Musk's farts, haven't you ?
@@RedHeadForester i hope you have donatet and have lost that monny to this scam
Over 100 year old idea that is still too technically difficult and outrageously expensive to build. Just build a regular train and be done with it. Computer graphics are.... still only computer graphics.
The original idea is from 1910, leave it to elon to invent something that is over 100 years old.
Dubai is known to waste money on expensive shit just to show off. Well, we will see how that goes when their oil ends!
yea lets never innovate sounds great
trains are already there, what's your point?/
@@KateeAngel their main goal is having a tourism oriented economy, for when the oil runs out... not to show off, what's your point... /?
Whoever wrote this didn't bother to do any research at all. This is filled with misinformation.
The Hyperloop is a 17th-century concept and if it was so efficient, the Japanese would have made it a long time ago.
Building a hyperloop between two cities some 90 minutes apart seems a bit overkill. A conventional HSR train can cover the same distance in half hour or less. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to build a hyperloop to replace longer distances, one that is normally covered by a commercial airliner?
Also one of the concept design shows passengers sitting in forward and reverse facing seats. I would think it would make more sense to have all of them facing forward considering the acceleration that the passengers will be subjected to.
Given that in any pipe leak incident they would likely be subjected to *sudden* deceleration, ...no I don't think that acceleration is our biggest worry here.
dubai aint bout tht life.
Too expensive to replace Air travel
@@mangolassi5273
Dubai is about that slavery
“If something is important enough, even if the odds are stacked against you, you should still do it.”
- Elon Musk
I will *REMEMBER* this for a Long time to come..... 👍
That's how heads get stuck where the sun don't shine.
And that's why Elon is a whole scam.
Never mind that this idea is more than 100 years old and belongs to a Robert Goddard....go ahead and give Elon the credit? SMH
@The Sun are you telling me what I should or shouldn't ...... can or can't do with my time and life?
So, MANY concepts have existed. For once we want to see a project that won’t be cancelled
Its been 8 years with nothing to show. There is no progress, only art concepts. Its a scam.
"For once we want to see a project that won’t be cancelled" - that should have been.
Theranos multiplied by 10 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Title says "Inside Dubai's $22 Billion Dollar Hyperloop"
1. At no point is anything "inside" shown.
2. It isn't a 22 Billion Dollar Project, but 22 Billion Dinars accoring to the video.
Hyperloop is defined in the video as a train in a tube running in a vacuum.
Video says a section will be running by the end of 2020 - that is close.
They should be running the system in now, with real people inside real "pods" to fix teething problems.
But in reality, we don't know of a single tube having been built yet, or anything about "pods".
The video says 750mph - in vacuum.
That is pointless. 300mph in air will still make a 30minute journey from Dubai to Abu Dhabi - in any case you still have to get in and out of pods, and get to your final destination, the 15minutes saved between 750mph and 300mph is a multi-billion dollar folly.
To reach the 10 minutes mark for monitization requirement Richest had to include about Burj Khalifa and other topics
Smart play
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when video shows about revolutionize transport and suddenly switch to dubai lol
Some like at 07:43 not even in Dubai
*I feel the need, the need for speed!*
@ID21 Thank you! 😁
*So I smoke some weed*
Unproven technology at this stage , lots of unanswered questions
👤🗣💥 Someone should comment on the economic boast Dubai received in 2013 and 2014 after dual national multibillionaire Towery Maurice Burris-Hunt moved to the Emirate part time. After arriving in 2013 he began acquiring expensive Realestate. He acquired interest in Burj Khalifa Burj Al Arab. He owns Gevora Hotel W Hotel JBR properties. A restuarant and car dealership empire. A billion plus in real estate in 8months. He is considered the wealthiest heir in America. In 2013 he is recognized as the J.P Morgan blood heir (2013 inheritance of equity stock) beneficiary grandson of billionaire Johnny Bryan Hunt (Equity stock) and beneficiary of Casey Kasem estate in Los Angeles California.
He is the XX that is being branded due to a publicly known identity theft and nationality issue ongoing. He teamed with Elon Musk and Space X.
non-existent technology. Also, all the answers were answered at the beginning: *it's a lot of crap*
“When complete”
Yea, I won’t hold my breath
We people who live here in UAE don't care much untill it's built
Lol
αbìη ρ jøşερh so true as a resident I’ve never even heard about it and the track isn’t even built or any construction
mainly because metro is dirt cheap, from 1 euro
Right you guys are still waiting on the world and the universe and those other land reclamation projects which where promised 18 years ago.
@@InfamouslyCantankerous said who?
@@InfamouslyCantankerous They are on pause for strategical purposes , will be resumed in the near future ....
“Your passion is waiting for your courage to catch up.”
- Isabelle Lafleche
Traveling in and out of a near vacuum will cause too many problems for the hyperloop to overcome.
Precisely, I was wondering about the transition..You have links to any further reading material about problems that it could encounter?
I think it would be a problem but not too much to overcome after all on the international space station they have to change pressure when they go in and out so something like that could work
Or like divers leaving submarines I guess because there you want to keep the water out
@@joelcairns8375 even small airlocks are quite slow. When talking about an airlock that would fit a train inside, you are looking at tens of minutes of pumping the air out (remember that 12 min travel time). Of course you could keep the train in the vacum at stations and make a seal around the doors, but really thats the least of your worries.
What you should worry about is thermal expansion. If you build your tube out of steel, say 100km long,temperature change from 0C to 60C will change the length of the tube by approximately 80m. Also, the top of the tube is exposed to direct sunlight while the bottom is more or less in shade. This may cause some deforming, which may lead to sudden collapse of the tube.
The structure would also become the largest vacuum chamber in the world, and would most likely suffer from leaks (I mean, we seemingly can't even build oilpipes that wouldn't leak) and therefore would require continuous pumping.
But, at the moment there is absolutely no working prototype of the hyperloop. In all the shown footage the "hyperloop" was pushed by what is essentially a small electric car, or rolling on wheels and stopping because of friction.
@@elmeriseppinen I seriously doubt they could make seals around the doors work.
But, if they make the airlocks just a little bigger than the pods, there's not much air that needs to be removed, so maybe it would only take a couple of minutes. But it is not providing condifence when they don't show any real stuff.
“Three times quicker then a Bugatti Veyron” * shows a Chiron 🤦🏽♂️
Ikr
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I think this channel is run by AI that’s why it makes those silly mistakes..
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The spinning building at 9:27 is Moscow Business Center, it's not Dubai. How can you confuse Dubai with Moscow??!!?
Dubai = More money than sense. Ripe for this kind of scam.
If Elon Musk won't even touch it (his Boring Company is not making a hyperloop, contrary to what the video says), how can Richard Branson, a billionaire turned millionaire that has been failing for decades in all his business ventures and has no technical expertise of his own, be anything but a scam?
@@aoikemono6414 The boring company is just not as bad as the hyperloop but is still trash
The hyperloop is going to be as revolutionary as the loop!
So not revolutionary at all? Like a complete disaster?
@@BallMuncher555 Yes.
I'm not sleep on how this guy had "America" playing in the background when talking bout Dubai 😂😂
Anything is possible in Dubai because it's "DUBAI".
It's not because of Dubai ,the credit goes to Elon Musk
Yes you are right
😂 Dubai just lucky that International oil companies started to produce oil in UAE. UAE is just a desert and bedouins. Say thank you to British
Isn't it ?
USA will always be top dog ,even if china beats the economy ,military power will always be usa
One single word comes to my mind listening to this video: Theranos. If its too good to be true, it most likely is. They don't even have proof of concept at scale. This is literally a hype train.
I was in Dubai twice from Europe and it was amazing: polite, clean and nice and very hight tech.
Yes, and if your boss doesn't like you for some reason he can confiscate your passport and stop paying you without having to worry for justice.
And all those workers who build that stuff, treated like sub humans. So cool.
It really is the city for elon musk fans, blinded by all the shiny skyscrapers and fast cars whilst ignoring the slavery behind it all.
The hyperloop idea existed before Elon Musk talked about it
“and is 3 times faster than a bugatti veyron” **shows chiron**
I'll be back every year... no, let's make it every three years to remind vaporware enthusiasts about their "soon to be" hype-loop.
I've sold hyperloops to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map! Now DubaI is on the map , and it only needs proper sewage .
While the entire world is pushing innovation to its limits, the United States is moving backwards. Y’all, we can’t even get COVID under control. It’s not just about birthing innovative companies, it’s about applying them in the states. Either way, exciting times.
Trump is the doom of us.
@@sorecentipede yeah i would love to have an old man with dementia who thinks people arent black if they vote for Trump.
"Soon to be completed..."? Seriously? Narration is over the top. This won't be built as depicted....ever.
TheRichest: faster than a Bugatti veyron.
My eyes: *sees a Bugatti Chiron.
Are my eyes playing tricks on me or not.
Its funny, all this hype started after Elon made a spontaneous quip about building a train in California.
Japan's high speed train was built in 1964.
And look how far the scam has come so far.
@@iToMiToMi China has 11 times more high speed rail than Japan and it is more stable and has a higher operational speed.
👤🗣💥 Someone should comment on the economic boast Dubai received in 2013 and 2014 after dual national multibillionaire Towery Maurice Burris-Hunt moved to the Emirate part time. After arriving in 2013 he began acquiring expensive Realestate. He acquired interest in Burj Khalifa Burj Al Arab. He owns Gevora Hotel W Hotel JBR properties. A restuarant and car dealership empire. A billion plus in real estate in 8months. He is considered the wealthiest heir in America. In 2013 he is recognized as the J.P Morgan blood heir (2013 inheritance of equity stock) beneficiary grandson of billionaire Johnny Bryan Hunt (Equity stock) and beneficiary of Casey Kasem estate in Los Angeles California.
He is the XX that is being branded due to a publicly known identity theft and nationality issue ongoing. He teamed with Elon Musk and Space X.
Yeah, it's not Daddy Elon's fault this is doomed to failure, it was just a joke, man! Just like the Cybertruck and his 'flying Tesla'.
The concept for a system like the hyper loop has been around for literally hundreds of years Elon musk as he has stated himself did not invent it.
Oh 22 Billion isn't that much
*cries in poor*
K(I is y9mm
😪 poor crying emoji
Billion not million
Networth-2 dollars
USD 6 billion
Dunno how vacuum it's supposed to operate at, but from my experience low vacuum is extremely costly and time consuming to maintain
Yep, its a money laundring scam
Because it sucks :D
Kinda ironic that when the narrator says "compared to traditional trains that run on wheels..." in 4:59 we see the footage of a Chinese Maglev Train.
Me: gets on hyper loop in London
Me: sleeps
Me: wakes up
Siri: welcome to London
Just because it CAN be built doesn’t mean it should. Look at all the empty floors on those Dubai skyscrapers. Also the A380. Not economically viable for the rest of the world, where profitability is a key component of feasibility.
@ nope. In indian this kind of mass transit is not feasible for a while actually. We as consumers are more value dependent than novelty dependent. There are no official statements for hyperloop consttruction too
@ it is NOT cheaper to build a vacuum chamber miles long than to build train tracks.
Oh well.. it will be built... just like Starship and Dragon were built and you guys cried about that. Back to the lose Thunderf00t videos.. the guy who has invented nothing and done nothing with his life... just like you.
Nice. Hyper loop is the future. No more smoky roads and traffic jams.
You could get the train.
I was in Dubai last year. I flew from Hamburg with Emirates A380. It's amazing there! I would like to fly there again, I hope next year. I can recommend it to everybody you have to see this city! The people there are so friendly. Greetings from Germany! and fu*k Corona!!
"Three times quicker than a Bugatti Veyron"
Bruh that's a Chiron, not a Veyron
0:18
Ikr
They're both ugly.
Now all of those Amazon one day delivery memes can become real!
SOLAR FREAKIN' ROADWAYS!!! Is this the same dork that narrated that pipe dream too? Does this guy specialize in "pipe" dreams?
I thought of that too. "But wait, there's more!"
1:03
Yeah right, a city that builds skyscrapers without even thinking of a proper waste management system is a world leader in architectural innovation.
"3 times faster than a bugatti veyron"
shows a bugatti chiron
Most people don't even know the difference at all. So what... :)
cambobby2011 because this is an informative video and it has to be accurate to inform
@@gabriell7640 Good point, I haven't thought about it this way.
@@cambobby2011 what the other guy said, also because it's annoying to us car enthusiasts.
The Veyron and Chiron are two different cars. This channel should know that.
So in the end it's just a scam :/
yep
California's high speed rail in a nut shell
What about explosive decompression? Wouldn't want to be on the train when something happens inside the tunnel.
1 nick in the tunnel and you're left with an expensive metal noodle
The hyper loop is about as revolutionary as crustless bread.
the "swoosh" sound effect in scene transitions is getting annoying.
Elon revived the idea of hyperloop but didn't invent it. For my own, I've read about the concept when I was a teenager in the 80s in a French science magazine titled "Sciences et Vie (Sciences and Life). It was the same idea as the hyperloop and it was supposed to link New York city and Los Angeles
It was first conceptualised in 1799 in Britain.
It was in a picture book when I was in the 1st grade in the 80s. That one had a under-sea tunnel going from North America to Europe.
Can we just for a second, talk about how at the end he talked about a spinning tower in dubai, but showed a tower that is located in moscow, russia, that dosnt even spin
@Samira Liaoui HE SHOWED A RUSSIAN PLACE,
Diesel trains, commuter trains, electric trains, passenger trains, freight trains, light rail trains and more.
They still messing with this crap..... I've got that song from Simpsons with the mono rail scammer
Hyperloop has been debunked by thunderf00t.
No...
@@akyhne yes it has
@@cmarentis No, Thunderf00t debunked the concept on assumptions.
Sure, the way Elon has presented the idea is with flaws. But Thunderf00t assumed the tube would have to be emptied before each ride. And he complained about a bit of rust.
Build a mag lev train as the Japanese, ride it in a tube with 0.3 bar pressure. That would be a valid idea. You don't need to go full 0 bars.
Thunderf00t is right most of the time, just not in this case.
@@akyhne its never going to happen. .3 bars or .1... not in a 100 years
@@akyhne ok, go on the very first ride in the hyperloop if it is even ever built. Don't forget to write your will in advance 😆
Here are some laws of physics not safe to defy:
•At 750mph, a pod/cart cannot EVER land/touch a track, such as infinate levitaion on these express lanes (Mag-Flight! not Mag-lev or that fast with Mag-Net)
•In a tunnel, there must be a ally path/tubes adjacent for construction workers to render or passager evacuations.
•high vacuum of air will cause heat build up on outer surface of the pods/craft (like a re-entry into Earth atmospher).
•emergeny oxygen mask, like on airplanes will acquire on Hyperloop/Virgin.
•pod-in-pod passenger chambers in outer craft frame, will aquire for tilt G-force & reduced risk on crackes & leak of air.
Thunderf00t has debunked this pipe dream many times. *BUSTED*
The Richest: It's 3 times quicker than a Bugatti veyron
The car pictured: Bugatti Chiron
"compared to traditional trains, the slow ones with wheels" - shows video of Shanghai maglev which is currently one of the fastest trains in the world...
I can smell teleportation !
WOW!
Those real-life construction clips of the Hype Loop were simply spectacular.
Who's gonna pay for the security of protecting an immensely long vacuum tube? Easiest terror target ever.
Jacque Fresco was talking about this decades before Elon Musk was.
The super aerodynamic pod with all the drag in a “vacuumed” tube lmao
Do they realise the nice clean looking tubes are gonna be covered in graffiti 😂
"3 times faster than a bugatti veyron" No its not, because it doesn't exist and it never will.
u gay? It will exist and stfu
@@ahmadabed3615 Why would being gay make a difference to an engineering problem? It will not exist, it can not exist, it makes no sense from either a financial point of view or from an engineering point of view. You are welcome to try to persuade me otherwise, but you will have to do better than "u gay?" and "stfu" these are the sort of arguments only a moron would use.
Don't be shy, I have some engineering experience,(I think I will be able to keep up) tell us all how the engineering problems can be solved. I'm sure we would all like to know. Some one as intelligent and articulate as you, must have some idea.
One last thing, just in case you were asking if I was gay because you wanted a date. I'm sorry but the answer is no, I'm not gay, sorry to disappoint you. Keep looking I'm sure you will find someone very nice one day. Your wit and intellect will surely win someones heart.
The title should be
Inside Dubai's 22 billion dirham Hyperloop
Dollar
@@RAIZENRAJESH dirham
@@onesimuspaigiri880 title
@@RAIZENRAJESH hyperloop
title again
Hyperloop and dehumidifer are the future.
The technology is sure frowned upon among bosses in the airline industry.
Probably because it's total BS.
Tickets : “Hey buddy u want too go on a hyperloop ? “
Guy : “Yeah sure just lemme take 6 dollars out “
Tickets : *laughs* lets make that a 1000 times more “
Ok ngl if I see a comment saying “first” I really don’t care like who cares jay you commented first?
to them it is like the olympics
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Its so fast that you might not be able to contain your consciousness while high speed travelling
ThunderF00t called this vaporware out 5yrs ago, thankfully I went with the science guy and not with the Hype guy...
Not even the CGI looks good. Still the same like 5 years ago.
That's a bull statement to make Elon had the idea first, wanting to travel in Vacuum tubes has been proposed for a long time, for the fact that it will be super cumbersome to maintain is why it has not been built yet. Basic Technical issue: First create a vacuum and ensure the tube holds the seal, Second: make sure the capsule vehicle holds pressure from the inside and no leaks, third: Keep people alive inside and hope the capsule never fails inside and the vacuum sucks out all the breathing air and kills people.
'8 years later and the best they can do is still ''promise'' :D
The last time I traveled there, and have not seen any kind of news or construction for it.....
A few problems... How are you accounting for expansion during the warm day versus contraction on the cold nights? Bad enough in temperate climates but Saudi Arabia is notorious for brutal heat during the day and almost ice like cold at night. You know, being a desert and all. Over the length, it'll amount to requiring very flimsy gas seals at the intersections. Also, the upper surface will be under direct sunlight and will expand at at different rate to the underside of the tube which will be in the shade.
I mean, your snazzy CGI movie shows a continuous length but in reality, it can't be manufactured like that. It will have to be in sections and those sections will require gas seals. What happens when one of of those seals breaks and the vacuum sucks in a metric ton worth of air which slams into an oncoming train? That's a few tons worth of lightweight, composite train traveling at the speed of sound hitting a metric ton of air, also traveling at the speed of sound, in a head-on collision... It would be anarchy. Real wrath of God type stuff. We're talking, "picking up" bodies with buckets and sponges.
These are just some of the very real problems these kinds of systems face and I'm willing to bet none of you so-called "engineers" have even bothered to address them. Hell, the idea of trains traveling in vacuums is over 100 years old. There is a very good reason it still hasn't been done today though.
Still, having said all that, if the Saudi's want to piss their money up the wall only to have an epic, global news coverage type accident where a lot of people die, let them.
Agree with your comment and Saudis pissing money. But these aren’t Saudis. It’s Emiratis pissing money 😂
Presumably the same way they deal with gas and oil pipes... expansion joints. The upper surface meanwhile if you read the Alpha proposal (which you haven't) is meant to be covered by solar panels running across the top of the tubes the entire length of the system.
As to chance of a catastrophic vacuum breach, there will be pressure relief valves every few hundred meters or so, so any release of pressure will not be the doomsday scenario you are suggesting because there are people much much smarter than you.. and much richer who have thought about these things. But don't worry... keep the Thunderf00t grift going... I mean that guys a genius with all his inventions such as... oh wait... he's never invented anything in his life.
Real engineers realised that it was COMPLETE AND UTTER BOLLOCKS in the first place. It's the childlike adulation of celebrity LUNATICS like Elon Musk to blame for its popularity. Anyway, it's March 2022 and Virgin Hyperloop just laid off half its staff. It can't be long until they shut it down completely now and it'll be the fitting end fir this IMBECILIC FANTASY !
Furthermore, since you are in a vacuum, engineers need to find a way to provide continuous oxygen for its passengers. Also how would they maintain a vacuum seal when passengers get on and off?
@@npc2480 The pods you ride in will be sealed, but then will presumably pass through an airlock at the station.
The idea has been around for decades, it did not come from Elon Musk!
Hyperloop is the future of mass transit. Elun Musk is a genius, America should be the first to develop this technology.
Musk is not a genius. He is a salesman and a showman. He has fans like Jeremy Clarkson has fans.
Yes. But let's talk about it when it officially releases and see the safety stats and operating costs
Dubai should have just burned the 22 billion. Would be the same thing as wasting it on the hyperloop but faster. Lol
Get an MBA and make wise money statements! They should have burned 21 Billion and saved a billion. Now about my consulting fee.....
If the pods run on "air" blown into the tube (like on an air-hockey table), how can you maintain a vacuum in the tube?
for sure this project is keeping graphical designers working :-)
I hoped for a hyperloop documentation but got to see a dubai advertisement.
I wonder what thunderfoot has to say.
and yet it's still being built. Guess we're going to have to wait and see if Thunderf00ts 'claims' are true
@@UpHigherMusicOfficial Is it thou? Not a single photo of it was shown in the video. All we can see are computer generated images.
“3x as fast as a Bugatti Veyron”
*Proceeds to show Bugatti Chiron*
Edit: A lot of other people has realised this as well
Elon Musk did not start Tesla. He was a risk capital investor that bought into the company after its creation and after the first concepts of the roadster were already designed and in prototyping.... He did start SpaceX though.
Um, not Elon Musks idea.