DIY Rod Building: Wrapping And Finish Motor Setup
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2020
- Here is a DIY solution for adding a power wrapping (whipping) and finish application motor to a hand wrapping jig. I built this one to work with the rod wrapping jigs I sell, but the basic ideas could be adapted to work with a wide range of hand wrapping jigs. Most rod hobby rod builders can get by without a power wrapping/finish motor, but it is a nice thing to have...especially if you have to do a lot of long underwraps. It is also a little easier to get a bubble free epoxy finish using a power finish motor in my opinion.
If there is some demand for me to make these available to purchase, I would definitely consider doing that...just let me know if you would be interested in possibly purchasing one in the comments below.
Here are some parts similar to what I used (these are NOT affiliate links, I do not get paid for recommending these items):
Motor Bracket: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06...
Motor: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
Speed Controller: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
And you will also need a power supply something like this to power the speed controller/motor: www.amazon.com/VENTECH-Adapte...
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Flex coat sells this setup for $179.
You are right, it is similar for sure. It looks like their controller is fixed to the base of the unit. That doesn't make any sense to me. It also looks like they don't have any reverse switch. Does that mean I win? 😆
Taking another look at that speed controller they use and looking around online at similar units, it looks more like an adjustable voltage power supply. That means the voltage is cut down to slow the motor down which also means that it wouldn't have much low end torque. That is fine for a finishing motor, but limits its use for wrapping a rod somewhat. I went with a PWM speed controller so the 200rpm motor would have good low speed torque for wrapping at speeds as low as around 20rpms. The setup works well for wrapping. I didn't think I would use it much when I built it, but I must admit that I enjoy having it more than I initially thought I would. It makes applying color preserver and epoxy much faster and easier.
They do offer it with reverse, but I told them that reverse would probably really make a mess on top of the mess I already created! I’ve been in contact with John Case at flex coat about this as a possible wrapper so he’s messing around with it as we speak.
I would be interested in one if you could put another one together!
@@bcmfarmsllc8103 I can build another one. If you like the approximately 20 - 200rpm range and if it will work with your wrapping jig height. The height from your work surface to the center line of the motor output shaft is adjustable from approximately 5-3/4" to 7-1/2". I don't know what wrapping jig you are using, but I built this to specifically work with the jigs I make and sell. I did make it adjustable in a fairly wide range just in case someone else wanted to use it with another jig.
Just let me know if you think it would work for you and I'll check on current parts ordering and see if I can get you a price and turnaround time estimate.
Also you said you have a bit of a mess going? Is there anything you were needing some tips on? I may be able to help with some advice.
I've just built mine. Thanks for all the tips and advice. Much appreciated
Learned a lot by watching your videos. Easy setup and tons of information. Greatings from Belgium.
Your electrical engenerriing genius is incredible. It amazes me how you put these things together and know exactly what will give you the outcome you want. I'd imagine that you've also had a lot of trial and error, but that is all a part of the process.
Lots of trial and error! You are right though, that is the best way to learn.
As usual, your work is innovative and very workable. Nice Job! (Joe) from off the hook
Thanks Joe, your feedback is always appreciated!
Is there any chance that you could send me a step by step schematic and shopping list of everything I would need for the wrapping motor and possibly the drying/ finish motor.
Thank you for any and all of your help 😊
If you do it a lot, I can see where putting the money in the more expensive motor would be well worth it. Looks like it works really well too. Will you show the epoxy spreading process to demonstrate how few bubbles you get sometime in the future? I'm not asking for it, I'm just asking if you're planning to. Even though I don't do this stuff, I still find it pretty interesting.👍💯
Yes sir, I plan on doing a video about that pretty soon!
Nice design! Did you consider adding in a switched relay for foot control option?
A simple momentary on off foot pedal connected from the wall to the power supply works if you want an on off switch that is foot controlled. I have considered making a foot pedal with a PWM speed controller built into it for complete control of on/off + speed but I haven't done it yet.
Excellent video. I got a permanent synchronous 60rpm AC motor. Is it possible to put a speed controller on it to make it go faster say 200rpm?
Probably not. AC motors are harder to control the speed on than DC motors. Universal AC/DC motors can be speed controlled fairly easily. They are used in things like drills and sewing machines.
Nice work. A ? did you try just using 3 "legs". Just curious.
I have on an older one, but I didn't like it being tippy on the corners of the side with the single leg. You usually don't have your hand on it so it wouldn't really make any difference in use, but I just didn't like it. If the base were round, 3 legs would have been pretty solid but for a rectangular shape I just wasn't really happy with it.
I noticed you said you seem to get less air bubbles at the higher rpm. Could this be due to the extra speed forcing the air out?
That is what I suspect is happening.
Hey. Just wondering if you ever made any of those motorized baby bottle chucks to sale? I have been looking for something like one.I’ve been interested in looking for something like that for a while
I've been making these adjustable height motor stands and selling them, but not a complete setup: www.ebay.com/itm/133382417193
Hi, I have been watching your videos for a long time and very much enjoy learning new methods. I wanted to ask you a professional question if this is possible: I want to get started with Flex Cote epoxy, I don't know what the difference between the high build and the high build uv. If you can help me understand a little more this will be very helpful, thanks in advance
I use the UV personally. It has extra UV protection and epoxy doesn't play well with UV light from the sun. The way I see it, I'd rather have that extra protection. The working characteristics of both types are similar though.
@@TheFishingHobby Thank you for the professional answer, I really appreciate it !!!
The standard uv flex coat is plenty thick enough. If you go with the high build you will have fat footballs of coating on your wraps.
@@bcmfarmsllc8103 you can make the high build more flat by pulling away excess after application and heating to pop bubbles. The Flexcoat thin formulation gets the most flat results, but you can really similar results when using either the high build or UV formulation with heat thinning and excess removal. A little more work, but worth the extra effort 👍
My friend ordered one of your jigs and we were talking about it. I am thinking about purchasing one soon also. What rod dryer would your recommend using with it? I would want to have one and am wanting recommendations if possible. Thanks :)
I'm going to start building rod dryers as well as these finishing motor setups next week. I'll be uploading a video when I have them ready to go. If you want one they will be available soon. If you want to look at other setups, for a dryer I'd recommend anything that turns at around 10-20 rpms. Somewhere in that range works well for most people and is what I use myself. Just let me know if you have any other questions and I would be happy to help.
@@TheFishingHobby Thank you. I look forward to you video with the ones you make! I know my friend loves the jig he got. He has been drying them by turning them periodically so he hasnt purchased a dryer. I will let him know to check back on your channel to check out yours!
@@mikelepori707 no problem and thanks for spreading the word!
What type/gauge wire did you use for the board?
Just about any sort of wire will work for one of these motors because they draw less than 1 amp. 24 gauge or larger should be fine.
How many RPM do you prefer for the drying motor?
Anywhere between 10 and 20 rpm’s work fine for me. I’m not super picky about it but that is the general range I find the gives me the results I’m looking for.
The thought occured to me last night, to kill fish with one hook... Do you suppose the motor on the rod wrapper is strong enough to use for a line winder/spooler? I was thinking build a carriage type arrangement that could set on the wrapper base. And simply change the chuck to a t-bar. Thoughts on this?
I'm not really sure what you were wanting to accomplish. Are you looking to remove fishing line from reels or to fill reel spools?
@@TheFishingHobby What I envision, is a base rod wrapper similar to yours. But instead of a baby bottle clutch, I was thinking a lathe 3 jaw chuck. Then have a removable carriage type assembly that will mount a bait caster. Insert a t-bar in the chuck and use that to wind the line on the reel. For spin casters, remove the spool from the reel, mount to the 3 jaw chuck. The carriage would be movable and removable for rod wrapping. Kill 2 birds with one machine. The carriage would have line spools with tensioners, and would sit perpendicular to the base rod wrapper. See what Im getting at? My question really is do you think the motor and power supply that you have, is adequate to turn a large bait caster?
Absolutely. Those gear motors have a lot of torque for their size. The reason I use the slip clutch with these motors for rod wrapping is because you can't turn the motor shaft by hand which would make hand wrapping impossible to get a wrap started with a lathe style chuck because it wouldn't allow you to turn the rod by hand without loosening the chuck. For what you are wanting to do, you wouldn't have any problems at all. The motor shafts are 6mm so you would need an adapter of some sort in order to mount a lathe chuck on these little motors. I've also found that the motors with the offset motor shaft are just a little smoother operating than the ones with the shaft that is centered on the motor.
@@TheFishingHobby I think I have an idea for the clutch. I could simply mount the baby bottle in the 3 jaw lathe chuck.. I should have it all done in a few months. Still have to gather components.
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