Was able to test both and bought the sky paris (this is coming from an Adios Pro 3 fan) - have not taken it for full marathon but did a pb in a 1/2 marathon and look to use for a full coming up.
@@amircastilla07good question since I have not run further than 18 miles in the sky although it seems a bit "cushier" a bit than the pro 3-probably due to plate placement and maybe foam. However the pro does have a wider rear so if you tire in the later miles and start to heel strike, (like miles 20-26)the pro 3 should help plus there's more propulsion of heel to forefoot and through in the pro 3 since the energy rods are placed "similar" to the edge but not as deep in the forefoot. I have never worn any vapor fly's but I'm told the edge is much closer to VP3. It really depends on how you run as I have seen runners wear the sky in marathons.
@@maurizioghidini3833 I have flat feet and preferred Sky.. wear supportive insoles that were no trable to swap, but recommend going half size up compared to other brands or even compared to Superblast for instance
Interesting, I was wondering how you would get on with the Edge as a heel striker cadence runner. I fit into that bucket and I love the Edge. I've PBed in 10k and the half in it earlier this year. It feels incredibly snappy, I've not had a bad run in it. My top racing shoe at the moment. I picked up the Sky a few weeks ago and did not get on with it, I tried 2 different interval sessions in it and it felt oddly flat and I had to work a little harder than I thought I would have to. I realise you're splitting hairs in the comparison, both clearly great shoes and logically you're not going to get on with both considering the difference in the geometry of the plate.
Totally agree. Much prefer the Edge and not had a bad run either. 2 x 10k a half marathon and a few 5ks in it. Sky doesn't push you onto the forefoot it's just bouncy with no roll.
@Fozzee.1970 yeah think you hit the nail on the head there about the roll, I felt I had to put more effort in as I was sinking into the landing whereas the Edge had that snap. Sent them back anyway.
Nick - it would be great if you could share some of your stride data in both. You already have amazing cadence naturally. I'm wondering if the Sky Paris really increased your stride length at similar speeds/cadence. I also understand, I am total agreement-run in what feels best to you.
I actually have some stats lined up for the vs of the two shoes coming later this week. Mostly pretty identical across the two, but I actually seem to have higher cadence and shorter stride length in the Sky Paris...
Have tried both and Sky Paris wins.. i preferred to go half size up with second pair as i got repeatedly blistered on top of my third fingers every half i ran.. best supershoes i've run in..
Point around the 15:00 mark, my average cadence in a 5k race is about 200 (my easy pace is 179). I use edge+ now but looking at old races there’s about 1% improvement in cadence but my stride has also increased (I’m faster and fitter). So if I jumped to the sky I might lose the turnover but gain in the stride.
thanks. How far have you ran? I do like the smaller secure fit but for half - full marathons I think it’s going to be a disaster / any long run - goodbye toenails.
@@LiamLavertyCoaching I would go half size up, normally 11 but it fight too tight, maybe i have wider feet, but the side of my feet were sticking out a little worried over longer distances
@LiamLavertyCoaching I've done a half marathon, 2 x 10k and a few 5k. No issues before, or after. If you like a snug fit i would stick TTS. I normally like a thumb but not in these.
Would a better strategy be to help increase stride length for cadence runners and increase cadence for stride runners. Like my cadence is insane but my stride is short 1.3m average (peaks at 1.5m)
Oh im like 180 plodding around town. Just shy of 200 (average) in a 5k race and peaking about 220. …. Now my 10yo daughter who I accompany on parkruns will run with a lower cadence than me but her stride is longer (she’s 1 ft shorter)
I ended up getting Edge+ and Sky+ (hooray for discounts) and although the ride is different I love them both - used them both for marathons but I think the EDGE+ worked better on shorter distances. I have tucked away a pair of EDGE Paris for NYC but haven’t tried them yet so I hope it’s going to be good!
Agree with most of Nick comments but disagree that there should only be one model. I think theres enough difference to justify them both. I think they should have differentiated in the colours though.
Yeah I (Nick) do agree too tbh, kind of got carried away in the review haha, but I’m not convinced about the way they’re aligned with running style. Two options with different feels that runners might like more or less, depending on preference more than their gait, is how I see it
The whole philosophy of one being suited for one running style & vice versa put me off buying either entirely. I wasn’t prepared to gamble on one & hope for the best, so I opted for the DNE3 instead, which I think is a fantastic shoe I absolutely agree though that each model should be a different colour, terrible marketing by ASICS in making them look almost identical
I have wide feet and had to send both the Edge and Sky Paris back - my foot was hanging over the edge and I was wobbling all over the place. Saucony Pro 4 worked far better for me
I bought the Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris in the last week of March, and I have not tried it on both road and track yet. I plan to use it before the year ends
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Was able to test both and bought the sky paris (this is coming from an Adios Pro 3 fan) - have not taken it for full marathon but did a pb in a 1/2 marathon and look to use for a full coming up.
Hi I am divided over the sky paris or adios por 3. Is there a clear winner for the marathon distance?
@@amircastilla07good question since I have not run further than 18 miles in the sky although it seems a bit "cushier" a bit than the pro 3-probably due to plate placement and maybe foam. However the pro does have a wider rear so if you tire in the later miles and start to heel strike, (like miles 20-26)the pro 3 should help plus there's more propulsion of heel to forefoot and through in the pro 3 since the energy rods are placed "similar" to the edge but not as deep in the forefoot. I have never worn any vapor fly's but I'm told the edge is much closer to VP3. It really depends on how you run as I have seen runners wear the sky in marathons.
Between Edge and Sky Paris, which one suits better for flat feet? Thank you for the fantastic content.
@@maurizioghidini3833 I have flat feet and preferred Sky.. wear supportive insoles that were no trable to swap, but recommend going half size up compared to other brands or even compared to Superblast for instance
Really wish Ascis would produce speed training/racing versions of these shoes without a plate.
How much does the Metaspeed Sky Paris differ from the Metaspeed Sky Plus? Would either be a good option for a first marathon aiming for sub-4hrs?
Interesting, I was wondering how you would get on with the Edge as a heel striker cadence runner. I fit into that bucket and I love the Edge. I've PBed in 10k and the half in it earlier this year. It feels incredibly snappy, I've not had a bad run in it. My top racing shoe at the moment.
I picked up the Sky a few weeks ago and did not get on with it, I tried 2 different interval sessions in it and it felt oddly flat and I had to work a little harder than I thought I would have to.
I realise you're splitting hairs in the comparison, both clearly great shoes and logically you're not going to get on with both considering the difference in the geometry of the plate.
Totally agree. Much prefer the Edge and not had a bad run either. 2 x 10k a half marathon and a few 5ks in it. Sky doesn't push you onto the forefoot it's just bouncy with no roll.
@Fozzee.1970 yeah think you hit the nail on the head there about the roll, I felt I had to put more effort in as I was sinking into the landing whereas the Edge had that snap. Sent them back anyway.
Nick - it would be great if you could share some of your stride data in both. You already have amazing cadence naturally. I'm wondering if the Sky Paris really increased your stride length at similar speeds/cadence. I also understand, I am total agreement-run in what feels best to you.
I actually have some stats lined up for the vs of the two shoes coming later this week. Mostly pretty identical across the two, but I actually seem to have higher cadence and shorter stride length in the Sky Paris...
Have tried both and Sky Paris wins.. i preferred to go half size up with second pair as i got repeatedly blistered on top of my third fingers every half i ran.. best supershoes i've run in..
Because you’re supposed to wear them on your feet not your hands 😂
Point around the 15:00 mark, my average cadence in a 5k race is about 200 (my easy pace is 179). I use edge+ now but looking at old races there’s about 1% improvement in cadence but my stride has also increased (I’m faster and fitter). So if I jumped to the sky I might lose the turnover but gain in the stride.
Bit suprised by the TTS commemt. Im a uk 11.5 and length is short but still comfortable. Id never size down in these.
Would you size up?
@@LiamLavertyCoaching no I tried both (full run). The size up was too sloppy. TTS fits really well just a little short which causes me no issues.
thanks. How far have you ran? I do like the smaller secure fit but for half - full marathons I think it’s going to be a disaster / any long run - goodbye toenails.
@@LiamLavertyCoaching I would go half size up, normally 11 but it fight too tight, maybe i have wider feet, but the side of my feet were sticking out a little worried over longer distances
@LiamLavertyCoaching I've done a half marathon, 2 x 10k and a few 5k. No issues before, or after. If you like a snug fit i would stick TTS. I normally like a thumb but not in these.
I'm a UK 8 in all other brands apart from Asics, always need to go half size down.
I have the Metaspeed sky Paris. But I haven't tried the edge. But I prefer more forefoot cushion, so sky it is.
Imo you sink better into the Edge footfoot.
@@Fozzee.1970 more foam underneath the plate, you feel more cushioned. Aka sky
@@thejeffinvadeyou might but that's not how I feel in them. The Sky feel harsher in the forefoot for me.
Edge absolutely has more forefoot cushion
hows the length of the sky compared to the af3?
Would a better strategy be to help increase stride length for cadence runners and increase cadence for stride runners. Like my cadence is insane but my stride is short 1.3m average (peaks at 1.5m)
Have the sky paris. feels fast, light, and bouncy. Have tried the edge and dont enjoy it nearly as much.
What exact number is “high cadence”?
Is 177-180 considered as high or just normal?
Oh im like 180 plodding around town. Just shy of 200 (average) in a 5k race and peaking about 220. …. Now my 10yo daughter who I accompany on parkruns will run with a lower cadence than me but her stride is longer (she’s 1 ft shorter)
I ended up getting Edge+ and Sky+ (hooray for discounts) and although the ride is different I love them both - used them both for marathons but I think the EDGE+ worked better on shorter distances.
I have tucked away a pair of EDGE Paris for NYC but haven’t tried them yet so I hope it’s going to be good!
Agree with most of Nick comments but disagree that there should only be one model. I think theres enough difference to justify them both. I think they should have differentiated in the colours though.
Yeah I (Nick) do agree too tbh, kind of got carried away in the review haha, but I’m not convinced about the way they’re aligned with running style. Two options with different feels that runners might like more or less, depending on preference more than their gait, is how I see it
The whole philosophy of one being suited for one running style & vice versa put me off buying either entirely. I wasn’t prepared to gamble on one & hope for the best, so I opted for the DNE3 instead, which I think is a fantastic shoe
I absolutely agree though that each model should be a different colour, terrible marketing by ASICS in making them look almost identical
@@TheRunTesters sounds like we are aligned now 😂 I agree very much a case of preference rather than cadence vs stride
Just wait to next color and buy it.haha. I had red Sky and ordered the yellow Edge
@NathanJr_93 think you are missing the point.
Could you please comment on how these shoes fit compared to the Superblast(OG)?
@@plantbased7486 i wear SB UK size 8 1/2 and size 9 in MS Sky Paris
Make video on SL 2 😊
Are they OK for those of us who have a wider foot?
Yes po
There is plenty of space in the toebox (for a racing shoe) but the rest is fairly snug. So depends on how wide, and where I guess 😊
I have wide feet and had to send both the Edge and Sky Paris back - my foot was hanging over the edge and I was wobbling all over the place. Saucony Pro 4 worked far better for me
i would half size up, have slightly wider feet, good for 11 in superblasts, but the sides of feet were sticking out in a little the sky paris
@@nikargiropoulos9433pro 4 are nowhere near as aggressive. They are more of a cruiser. The Elite is a better comparison.
i have a wide midfoot.. are they ok?
No, buy Ecco.
I bought the Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris in the last week of March, and I have not tried it on both road and track yet. I plan to use it before the year ends
Aren’t they just literally the same shoe except the plate placement that gives you a preference for feel.
No the Sky has a wider forefoot too with more foam over hanging the side of the toe box. They are similar but still quite different IMO.
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