A few things. 1. The point with the living lightning still being lightning is that it's still energy, meaning apocalypse, who can absorb energy, could take it. 2. The reason Black Adam didn't finish the last shout is because he could feel apocalypse absorbed all the lightning
Archie Silver being able to utilize a large portion of the abilities netted by the Chaos Force isn't unreasonable. For one, being able to achieve a Super Form at all in Archie requires a great understanding and amount of Chaos Energy and how to manipulate it. Considering he already has knowledge of techniques like time travel in his base form and was trained by Mammoth Mogul, one of the most potent Chaos Force users in existence, its very likely that he would know how to utilize a vast amount of its higher level applications. Him being able to fight side by side with Sonic & Shadow against Archie Solaris, which would have destroyed the 5D Archie cosmology, means comparative stats is a given. Ultimately Silver being able to use most of the abilities of the Chaos Force isn't completely unreasonable, and likely should, and will be allowed.
Based on this, this would reasonably mean that silver has a much higher power stat than trunks due to the highest threat trunks faced ( with help. ) was demigra who was attempting to destroy the “real world” which would put him dimensional at best ( unless I’m misunderstanding the feat which is possible. )
So a random question: With all the talks about the phoenix force (and the lack of information we get from it outside of a general “they have interacted with the phoenix force”), should there be an episode featuring a dominant Phoenix Force user so we can finally get a proper explanation from Death Battle? Or would that be seen as a waste of time if there is no proper counter to showcase it? Other than that, the fight was about on par and it did seem like Apocalypse couldn’t give two cares. That and it ending in a literal curbstomp was a nice and unexpected death sequence.
Well, at least I'm not the only one now to have brought up the fact that they didn't explain why the Yellow Lantern Ring wasn't affective against Apocalypse.
I really like what they did with this episode, and I love the track! My favorite part of it is during the Black Adam part where it says, “I am the sun in the sky…” obviously referencing the fact that he has lightning powers.
Black adam is an allusion to Saturn, the black sun or Heru/horus the sun god. Many if not all comic book characters have connections to mythological beings of antiquity.
im not defending the death scene, but i THINK. they were trying to point out that apocalypse absorbed enough of Shazamm's power where he couldn't summon more lightning... maybe? idk still weird
@@wingedbluj1674 just because it acts like lighting doesn't mean it's actual lighting its magic if a dog acts like a cat is that dog a cat should it be called a cat no and apocalypse cannot absorb magic and if he can just make powers on the fly what's stopping him from making a power that allows him to destroy multiverses he can't make the omega affect nor can he use the omega affect because darkseid is the only one who can use it
I think he’s taking it a little too seriously, ultimately apocalypse was going to win, also how long did he expect this animation to be? And you know broomstick and what’s his name are always trying to be funny so expect a lot of gags like always.
So this episode, was a pretty great step up! Analysis for Both: Good, just good. Nothing special. Fight: Very good, but way too short and some issues with couple of Apocalypse's models VAs: Awesome Music: Gothic Rock! Edited but Death: You and Biff shouldn't had been confused. BA used all of his living lightning and Apocalypse pretty much did a Doomsday reference soo... Post Analysis: it was fine. Overall: Extremely Good Job and Much Improvements than the Disappointed Blunder that was Bond vs Wick 9/10 Edit: Oml, that's some of the most unnecessary amount of nick picking I've seen from Nemesis, seriously complaining about Apocalypse's voice which it makes sense bc thats how he is!
I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Super Silver would have the same capabilities as Sonic and Shadow would with their super forms, since that increase in power is mostly consistent across other characters that can transform via the chaos emeralds like Tails and Knuckles
Honestly my biggest issue with the episode is that the fight's basically over once Apocalypse goes big. The DBX gave us such an awesome exchange using the environment to their advantage. Overall this episode really just made Black Adam look kind of weak imo. Overall I prefer the Death Battle but if I had to pick deciding on which had the better highlight, I'd pick the DBX fairly easily.
I'll be honest, I think the fight was kinda rushed. I feel like it went Start > End with no real inbetween, and I feel like they might've rushed it out a bit. The death was pretty cool though, with Apocalpyse making Black Adam unable to bust out a Shazam via his massive boot.
Well to be fair - I think a lot of people expected Black Adam to win because how ridiculous op he is - them that Death Seed came up and this Apocalypse wins. For a good reason why it needed a team of heroes to stop him. And you know who else got that treatment of we thought who should win? Cable vs Booster Gold. Even the devs thought Cable would get the upperhand.
This episode was pretty great! Not nearly one of the best Comic Book battles, but better than I was expecting it be. 100% felt like Black Adam was the underdog main character. I was pleasantly surprised when he remained the underdog and lost. Lots of Death Battles make the characters seem so similar the fights become boring brick fests. You were clearly a bit peeved.
Slight nitpick but it bugs me that, after Apocalypse destroys the camera, the cracked overlay is present on many of the shots afterwards, even in the start of the conclusion. Like, different shots from different angles implies these are all different cameras in a live recording of the fight. So why are all the cameras cracked after Apocalypse breaks one? I guess they imply DB only has one camera with that Boomstick line, but it's still curious to me.
So, as someone that never read X-men comics, I need to ask for a specific clarification. Is Apocalypse capable or not capable of absolving magic in general? I ask cause I find it weird that Dr. Doom figured out a way to absolve huge levels of cosmic energy on just his own tech, magic and skill. While Apocalypse, THE big bad of X-Men, with the tecnology of higher beings can't figure out a way to do it.
So in terms of the last Shazam I think he stopped because of eithers A.) He realizes that Apocalypse can absorb his power and since he survived that Shazam shout another one wouldn't really do anything, B.) He was completely drained of his power, or C.) Both. Still odd tho
I don't mind how stupid the face of Adam looked during the death, because it's not like the death in general is supposed to be super serious. It's literally Apocalypse shoving Adam's face against the camera. The fact that the face is also modeled after a meme of The Rock is a pretty big giveaway that they weren't going for the most serious tone for this.
I think black Adam stopped his shout because Apocalypse absorbed most of his powers. Especially since the finishing hit is a lightning. It is still out of character though.
That doesn’t make sense, Adam is still in his transformed state, if the living lightning was absorbed then he would have been turned back to his human form.
Haven't watched the review yet. My thoughts before my stupid ass sheep mind inevitably switches to confirm to youtube daddy. I liked it. The lack of "comedy" based cutaways in the episode was nice and I like the continued bullying of beak. Truthfully Black Adam's wasn't all too memorable but for some reason Apocalypse's just stuck with me. For no reason in particular the line "if they would not respect En Sabah Nur, they would fear Apocalypse" is kind of raw. I like the fight. The backgrounds once again look GORGEOUS, hell this might be the best 3d backgrounds yet. It makes sense that they just start trying to kill each other. Apocalypse invading Kahndaq and Black Adam defending it is the best setup you could need. I could do a play by play of the entire fight but 1) I'm lazy and 2) I'd probably miss something. But I feel they definitely used enough of their powers. Black Adam used everything. His basics, Lightning, Strength, Flight. But they also used the wisdom of Zehuti and the yellow lantern ring with a specific callback to the lightning tiger which, yes, looks awesome. Apocalypse gets to start out with his robot army which is a power that most people wouldn't expect. He gets to fly, morph his body, extend in size, mind read, shoot energy projectiles, absorb energy and redirect it (mostly for the kill) and regenerate. Which I feel goes enough beyond the basics to justify it. The one moment from this animation that stands out even among the rest of this banger is when after Adam puts on the ring they just start speed blitz fighting and casually break the moon. There's no real attention drawn to it. They're just casually fighting and that happened. Although don't get me wrong most of the fight looks awesome. And that death. Homelander eat your heart out (pun kinda intended). I think this barely beats it out being even more drawn out and while is face is mashed potato the healing factor probably just barely keeping him alive long enough to feel the pain and watch his life work crumble, before being killed by his own lightning is BRUTAL. The downsides. 2 handrawn bits in particular look... off to me. When giant Apocalypse goes for a punch his head looks like it's not attacked right, and Black Adams stomped in face looks like a puppet. Like if you've ever watched Total Drama World Tour and remember the final 4 song with Al and Heather. Looks exactly like the Alejandro Puppet. I also do wish the absorbing of the lightning came from Black Adam fully saying Shazam and Apocalypse just holds his hand out and catches the lightning. THEN you have Black say the oh shit line and it's not cringe before the curbstomp. and finally next episode is a dragon ball vs sonic matchup. for the love of god please no. All in all. I love this episode Both these characters are amazing villains (in black adams case I feel antagonist fits the bill more). I'll have to give it another rewatch or 2 and let it really sink in but I think this could be anywhere from 5-2 on my ranking for this season. OmniLander is still untouched for #1 though. ALRIGHT TIME FOR ME TO WATCH NEMESIS SAY IT SUCKS AND PUT IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST WOOOOOOOO!
The moment where Apocalypse lifted up Adam after stomping on him was hilarious and I don't know if it was meant to be or not. They made that guy look like a muppet.
So the sound apocalypse makes when he gets hit by the lightning is the death sound he makes in the fighting games he’s in, that being x-men vs street fighter and marvel vs street fighter.
Black Adam stopped half way through because he lost the living lightning according to people Then why did even bother saying it if he didn’t have his powers? And if he wasn’t aware that he lost the living lightning, WHY DID HE STOP HALF WAY THROUGH? He should of said “oh shit” AFTER he finished saying Shazam I liked the episode, but that was a really bad line
I don't remember Silver getting much of an upgrade even with Archie scaling. Trunks on the other hand is basically the protagonist of the Xeno continuity so he gets a shit ton of boosts.
0:34-0:45 ... *aye fair enough* sorry for the hype being killed for you -which I may have taken apart of, again sorry- really enjoyed this episode more than I thought, I was actually invested in the analysis more than usual this time around, especially with Apocalypse. Animation was short but sweet, but I couldn't understand was Apocalypse was saying half of the time, but I hear him better now after a few rewatches. Plus Black Adam not finishing his SHAZAM at the end doesn't seem right to me, even without his lighting. The analysis made look like even without his lighting he would still go down swinging or try to hold the boot with his bare hands. But after that, this be my favorite ending for this season thus far. Music was a cheesy banger, even if the vibe doesn't fit either of them. A solid 8 or 9/10 for me.
archie silver is apparently tier 1 but most feats and powers are mostly just because shadow and sonic can do the same in there super forms. silver otherwise doesnt have much going for him. hes always mainly a telepathic users. and doesnt have much else
Also for the music of the episode, I feel bad saying that this is one of the few times I think the music was actually bad, both for the episode and just on its own. I don't know why a rap was chosen to be used for this fight as it doesn't really fit either of the two, on top of it just not exactly being an all too good track, at least personally. Course rap tracks can work for a fight when done well (i.e Miles V Static), but this just really missed the mark I feel
after the analysis was over I as someone with surface knowladge of the caracthers beforehand thought that apocalypse stomps and he did, this was a bad matchup along the lines of ace natsu or vanom and that sound woman
There is actually a lot of evidence to suggest that Silver can do the super form on his own. There is no evidence that Sonic gave Silver the super form. Shadow as there too and we know he can achieve the super form. Plus the super form should barely matter as Silver can fight Dark Enerjak for 4 issues straight and he is stronger than any Xeno character. And masters of chaos like silver all have the same baseline for powers. In fact, Silver is shown to be one of the best at controlling chaos energy out of any character so he should be comparable to Sonic and Shadow. So yes there is evidence to say that Silver should scale in power set to Srchie sonic and shadow. Not trying to make this sound aggressive or anything but he just do have legit arguments to say he can use those powers and many instances, chaos magic has granted different characters similar abilities and resistance
Black Adam has consistently higher showings than Apocalypse ever had and Apocalypse usually jobs to foes of Black Adam's caliber (despite being supposedly really powerful). Pretty weird to see him win this one
Honestly i was expecting Black Adam to take the victory for this like I've seen so many matchups have him win. But this one really surprised me. I thought the episode wasn't really that special though. It was just another stereotypical DC VS Marvel matchup. I think it was a 7/10. But yeah i can't wait for your review on Xeno/DBH Trunks cause vs Archie Silver oh boy i have a lot of mixed feelings on that episode.
I was bored out of my skull by apocalypse's analysis, I don't usually skip analysis but for this I had to make an exception. I also ate a hotdog without my hands while watching this episode.
Going by the thumbnail, Xeno Trunks is going to be primarily based on Dragon Ball Heroes. Aside from the fact that Xenoverse!Trunks is either called Time Patroller Trunks or just Trunks, he never showed any signs of getting a new transformation (even Super Saiyan Rage is saved for the Trunks of the Goku Black Saga)
The shot of Apocalypse holding Adam is based on that Rock Meme. And Adam's caved in head was originally Beavis from Beavis and Butthead just drawn to look more like Black Adam. Edit:I just hope they're fair to Silver. Ben already hates him.
He also looks like Namor. Like the haircut and face. Compare the earlier battle and it’s gonna be obvious. The ring is technology. Gobbledygook tech sure, but he could grab the ring and nullify it. At most they show it with him grabbing the tiger, which isn’t clear and is a pretty cool idea
This episode felt like a massive stomp. Not only with stats. But in the animation. I didn't really like how little it seemed they let Black Adam be anything more then just "lightning smash" with using abilities. Apocolypse didn't have to try it felt and still got more creativr thrn blasts and punches. The yellow lantern thing was the only thing that felt "unique" to this all powerful, morally grey god the whole fight. I don't know the bit. I don't really think i wanna know it. But this fight dripped with potential. And if it was as big a stomp as it looked. Why even make it? Vegeta vs Thor was equally short. But the whole fight didn't feel "stomp" just sort of "First Major Hit won" this. This was just Black Adam Flailing and Apocolypse toying with him until he basically got bored. I genuinrly think this is a weaker fight then Predetor vs Boba Fett with a less interesting and more vague analysis and i'd probably say this was the weakest episode in the season. Not terrible but very much felt more of obligation from fans over something they liked making given the "bit" discussion
What's the name of the track used in this video? This was an actually really enjoyable episode. I thought BA was going to win, considering if we compared to Shazam! but I was wholeheartedly surprised. Also Marvel vs DC fights are now tied
Before I start watching this (because my opinions are usually influenced when people point out flaws) I want to say I loved the animation...at first, it felt far too short and they might as well have not used the fear ring as black Adam does a total of one thing with it. And the death made no sense, Adam had NO REASON to stop saying Shazam so they removed context for the sake of comedy, the stomping scene felt like a waste of animation and the music didn't fit. Furthermore the fight was only 2 minutes long, but it felt SO much shorter. it starts and then ends, no in between, The best part of the whole fight was Adams final Shazam against giant apocalypse. Otherwise I liked the episode. Edit: meh, nothing changed. Edit 2: people in the comments say apocalypse absorbed the living lightning hence why black Adam used that HORRIBLE line, okay compelling argument, but that was horribly conveyed! There was NOTHING showing that happened, let me give an example, Ganon lost the tri-force during his fight with dracula and got a scene visually stating "Oh shit, it's gone, he can't use it" and there wasn't any dumb line for him reacting to it. It was just fear realizing he was fucked, and then killed. That's how they should have done this scene.
Yeah, the waiting period was a double-edged sword. The enthusiasm was infectious, and I was content just being happy that everyone else was happy, but it honestly was a bit annoying that it basically became a repeat of Minions: The Rise of Gru. The bit wasn't funny there, and frankly, I didn't find it all that funny here either.
I didn't even know wtf that ring was for a second. Was it some kind of lightning thing? I heard he can control lightning so maybe he could change it to a tiger but how were we supposed to know he gets a yellow lantern ring if it isn't mentioned in the rundown! It's just...annoying...
For me, I thought this episode was just meh. Don't remember much of the analysis besides Boomstick being a little annoying, the fight seemed meh to me and the music just seemed generic as well, much like you I couldn't understand Apocalypse and found myself annoyed at Black Adam's "Oh shit" thing because from what they explained about him, he wouldn't give up no matter what but here he is, giving up and letting himself get stomped. Also agree with you that the ending was silly because of that face. Honestly if I had time, I could go more in detail of why the fight just didn't work for me, from the music to the voices to the action and ending as a lot of Death Battle episodes did specific things this episode tried to do better. Also while I found the camera having tape on it at the end amusing, I can't really buy that this fight is the thing that broke their camera. So Goku and Superman causing the Earth to implode didn't, Chuck Norris and Segata causing a black hole didn't, Thanos and Darksied throwing around the solar system didn't, Hulk and Broly head butting and warping reality didn't..no, a stomp to the face in a battle that merely cracked the moon is what broke their camera. Okay..sure, that makes sense. All in all, nothing about this episode excited me, felt like a really generic Marvel vs DC fight. Maybe if I had more love for either character it'd be more exciting but it just seemed like another...cape shit? And its followed by another predictable battle that is a stomp so after an interesting matchup we get the millionth Marvel vs DC, then another meh stomp.
I would prefer the victory where Black Adam picks up Apocalypse trying to use the lightning bolts to kill Apocalypse only 4 Apocalypse to make a whole n this would turn Black Adam back into human form n Apocalypse would jump on him crushing him b4 he changes back
Pretty sure the reason Black Adam didn’t bother punching the deathseed again cause if ya listen close to 15:30 to hear Apocalypse say “Don’t destroy it” which musta been in Adam’s head cause you know he coulda been crushing that crap
That little jab at Gaara vs Toph is more annoying to me because it seems like they still think they're right when they didn't factor in how much faster Gaara is and was than her
Trunks and Silver basically cancel out 99% of their each other's hax, unfortunately for Silver, Trunks still has his Keysword which is insanely busted.
This episode will be debunked soon. Comparing celestials to the quintessence alone leaves room for a massive debunk. Galactus and celestials are fodder to spectre.
Man, who could have guessed that Apocalypse Marvel's comics X-Men would have a bigger impact in the episode that a man being play by The Rock
5:33 Apocalypse absorbed the living lightning in that moment. The reason he said "Ah shit" is because he can't use it anymore.
That actually makes sense.
He absorbed it, despite Adam only saying half the word?
Huh???
@@HB-fq9nn Apocalypse absorbed it after he said Shazam the last time
@@HB-fq9nn He did it during the big Shazam shout
Adam would have no way of knowing that outside of saying the full word
which he didn't do
A few things.
1. The point with the living lightning still being lightning is that it's still energy, meaning apocalypse, who can absorb energy, could take it.
2. The reason Black Adam didn't finish the last shout is because he could feel apocalypse absorbed all the lightning
This kind of felt like Zatanna vs Scarlet Witch where the winner clearly carried the fight in its back and got all the cool shit do to
Good description! And a little awkward as well for those who really wanted to watch the losers to shine.
Yea that fight was bullshit anyway. Swamp Thing defeated Parlaya. Not Zatana.
Archie Silver being able to utilize a large portion of the abilities netted by the Chaos Force isn't unreasonable. For one, being able to achieve a Super Form at all in Archie requires a great understanding and amount of Chaos Energy and how to manipulate it. Considering he already has knowledge of techniques like time travel in his base form and was trained by Mammoth Mogul, one of the most potent Chaos Force users in existence, its very likely that he would know how to utilize a vast amount of its higher level applications. Him being able to fight side by side with Sonic & Shadow against Archie Solaris, which would have destroyed the 5D Archie cosmology, means comparative stats is a given.
Ultimately Silver being able to use most of the abilities of the Chaos Force isn't completely unreasonable, and likely should, and will be allowed.
Based on this, this would reasonably mean that silver has a much higher power stat than trunks due to the highest threat trunks faced ( with help. ) was demigra who was attempting to destroy the “real world” which would put him dimensional at best ( unless I’m misunderstanding the feat which is possible. )
Silver won
So a random question: With all the talks about the phoenix force (and the lack of information we get from it outside of a general “they have interacted with the phoenix force”), should there be an episode featuring a dominant Phoenix Force user so we can finally get a proper explanation from Death Battle? Or would that be seen as a waste of time if there is no proper counter to showcase it?
Other than that, the fight was about on par and it did seem like Apocalypse couldn’t give two cares. That and it ending in a literal curbstomp was a nice and unexpected death sequence.
Death battle cant use the phoenix force ad they condtantly say its planet level even tho its mutiversal
Hope summers
Well, at least I'm not the only one now to have brought up the fact that they didn't explain why the Yellow Lantern Ring wasn't affective against Apocalypse.
Wednesdays are my really tough college days so thanks for putting a smile on my face Nemesis!
I really like what they did with this episode, and I love the track! My favorite part of it is during the Black Adam part where it says, “I am the sun in the sky…” obviously referencing the fact that he has lightning powers.
Black adam is an allusion to Saturn, the black sun or Heru/horus the sun god. Many if not all comic book characters have connections to mythological beings of antiquity.
im not defending the death scene, but i THINK. they were trying to point out that apocalypse absorbed enough of Shazamm's power where he couldn't summon more lightning... maybe? idk still weird
There reasoning for absorbing the living lightning is so stupid you can't compare regular kinetic lighting to literal magic lighting
@@death-nm7hr the post analysis explained why it ended the way it did
@@death-nm7hr The Living Lightning acts similar enough to real lightning to absorbed. Besides, Apocalypse can literally make superpowers on the fly.
@@wingedbluj1674 just because it acts like lighting doesn't mean it's actual lighting its magic if a dog acts like a cat is that dog a cat should it be called a cat no and apocalypse cannot absorb magic and if he can just make powers on the fly what's stopping him from making a power that allows him to destroy multiverses he can't make the omega affect nor can he use the omega affect because darkseid is the only one who can use it
I think he’s taking it a little too seriously, ultimately apocalypse was going to win, also how long did he expect this animation to be? And you know broomstick and what’s his name are always trying to be funny so expect a lot of gags like always.
So this episode, was a pretty great step up!
Analysis for Both: Good, just good. Nothing special.
Fight: Very good, but way too short and some issues with couple of Apocalypse's models
VAs: Awesome
Music: Gothic Rock!
Edited but Death: You and Biff shouldn't had been confused. BA used all of his living lightning and Apocalypse pretty much did a Doomsday reference soo...
Post Analysis: it was fine.
Overall: Extremely Good Job and Much Improvements than the Disappointed Blunder that was Bond vs Wick
9/10
Edit: Oml, that's some of the most unnecessary amount of nick picking I've seen from Nemesis, seriously complaining about Apocalypse's voice which it makes sense bc thats how he is!
I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Super Silver would have the same capabilities as Sonic and Shadow would with their super forms, since that increase in power is mostly consistent across other characters that can transform via the chaos emeralds like Tails and Knuckles
So they did a DBX version of the matchup and then it became an episode...
Trunks vs silver is basically in the same position
Same happened with Dio vs Alucard.
Wonder if we can get 3 DBX episodes in a row as a DB
So all the winners in dbx will be the losers in death battle.
@@beesoowavey4758 except if you're Batman vs Iron Man or Thor vs Vegeta
@@beesoowavey4758 it's a possibility
That ending gotta be one of the best in the entire show
"Ew, I stepped in LOOOOSER"
Honestly my biggest issue with the episode is that the fight's basically over once Apocalypse goes big. The DBX gave us such an awesome exchange using the environment to their advantage. Overall this episode really just made Black Adam look kind of weak imo. Overall I prefer the Death Battle but if I had to pick deciding on which had the better highlight, I'd pick the DBX fairly easily.
I think the oh shit was meant to be Adam realizing all his magic in him was gone, I think it would make it better if Adam returned to his base form
I'll be honest, I think the fight was kinda rushed. I feel like it went Start > End with no real inbetween, and I feel like they might've rushed it out a bit.
The death was pretty cool though, with Apocalpyse making Black Adam unable to bust out a Shazam via his massive boot.
I feel like the “oh shit” line would’ve worked better if Adam finished the shout, only to realize that his power is drained.
Well to be fair - I think a lot of people expected Black Adam to win because how ridiculous op he is - them that Death Seed came up and this Apocalypse wins. For a good reason why it needed a team of heroes to stop him.
And you know who else got that treatment of we thought who should win? Cable vs Booster Gold. Even the devs thought Cable would get the upperhand.
This episode was pretty great! Not nearly one of the best Comic Book battles, but better than I was expecting it be. 100% felt like Black Adam was the underdog main character. I was pleasantly surprised when he remained the underdog and lost. Lots of Death Battles make the characters seem so similar the fights become boring brick fests. You were clearly a bit peeved.
7:47 I honestly expected them to pull a Ben Hal where Apocalypse would turn big and Adam would fight him with a giant construct
I gotta say, your Black Adam edits with the rock were pretty funny. I love them
Slight nitpick but it bugs me that, after Apocalypse destroys the camera, the cracked overlay is present on many of the shots afterwards, even in the start of the conclusion.
Like, different shots from different angles implies these are all different cameras in a live recording of the fight. So why are all the cameras cracked after Apocalypse breaks one? I guess they imply DB only has one camera with that Boomstick line, but it's still curious to me.
Neat. Nice to see another review from you, Nem.
So, as someone that never read X-men comics, I need to ask for a specific clarification.
Is Apocalypse capable or not capable of absolving magic in general?
I ask cause I find it weird that Dr. Doom figured out a way to absolve huge levels of cosmic energy on just his own tech, magic and skill. While Apocalypse, THE big bad of X-Men, with the tecnology of higher beings can't figure out a way to do it.
As it turns out, the hierarchy of the Death Battle universe did not change
So in terms of the last Shazam I think he stopped because of eithers A.) He realizes that Apocalypse can absorb his power and since he survived that Shazam shout another one wouldn't really do anything, B.) He was completely drained of his power, or C.) Both.
Still odd tho
Lol the two quotes from The Rock in the beginning and the end are gold. Classic WWE moments.
I punch the best
Shape-shift my arm to a big drill, I'm harming ya
I don't mind how stupid the face of Adam looked during the death, because it's not like the death in general is supposed to be super serious. It's literally Apocalypse shoving Adam's face against the camera.
The fact that the face is also modeled after a meme of The Rock is a pretty big giveaway that they weren't going for the most serious tone for this.
I adored this episode, it gave us the best Death Battle theme since Goku VS Superman
Now there’s a pretty theme!
@@Call_Me_Sparda 𝕰𝖝𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖘𝖎𝖙𝖊!
I think black Adam stopped his shout because Apocalypse absorbed most of his powers. Especially since the finishing hit is a lightning. It is still out of character though.
That doesn’t make sense, Adam is still in his transformed state, if the living lightning was absorbed then he would have been turned back to his human form.
Haven't watched the review yet. My thoughts before my stupid ass sheep mind inevitably switches to confirm to youtube daddy.
I liked it. The lack of "comedy" based cutaways in the episode was nice and I like the continued bullying of beak. Truthfully Black Adam's wasn't all too memorable but for some reason Apocalypse's just stuck with me. For no reason in particular the line "if they would not respect En Sabah Nur, they would fear Apocalypse" is kind of raw.
I like the fight. The backgrounds once again look GORGEOUS, hell this might be the best 3d backgrounds yet. It makes sense that they just start trying to kill each other. Apocalypse invading Kahndaq and Black Adam defending it is the best setup you could need. I could do a play by play of the entire fight but 1) I'm lazy and 2) I'd probably miss something. But I feel they definitely used enough of their powers.
Black Adam used everything. His basics, Lightning, Strength, Flight. But they also used the wisdom of Zehuti and the yellow lantern ring with a specific callback to the lightning tiger which, yes, looks awesome.
Apocalypse gets to start out with his robot army which is a power that most people wouldn't expect. He gets to fly, morph his body, extend in size, mind read, shoot energy projectiles, absorb energy and redirect it (mostly for the kill) and regenerate. Which I feel goes enough beyond the basics to justify it.
The one moment from this animation that stands out even among the rest of this banger is when after Adam puts on the ring they just start speed blitz fighting and casually break the moon. There's no real attention drawn to it. They're just casually fighting and that happened. Although don't get me wrong most of the fight looks awesome. And that death. Homelander eat your heart out (pun kinda intended). I think this barely beats it out being even more drawn out and while is face is mashed potato the healing factor probably just barely keeping him alive long enough to feel the pain and watch his life work crumble, before being killed by his own lightning is BRUTAL.
The downsides. 2 handrawn bits in particular look... off to me. When giant Apocalypse goes for a punch his head looks like it's not attacked right, and Black Adams stomped in face looks like a puppet. Like if you've ever watched Total Drama World Tour and remember the final 4 song with Al and Heather. Looks exactly like the Alejandro Puppet. I also do wish the absorbing of the lightning came from Black Adam fully saying Shazam and Apocalypse just holds his hand out and catches the lightning. THEN you have Black say the oh shit line and it's not cringe before the curbstomp. and finally next episode is a dragon ball vs sonic matchup. for the love of god please no.
All in all. I love this episode Both these characters are amazing villains (in black adams case I feel antagonist fits the bill more). I'll have to give it another rewatch or 2 and let it really sink in but I think this could be anywhere from 5-2 on my ranking for this season. OmniLander is still untouched for #1 though.
ALRIGHT TIME FOR ME TO WATCH NEMESIS SAY IT SUCKS AND PUT IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST WOOOOOOOO!
it wasnt about drive it wasnt about power 😔
We didn't stay hungry, didn't devour 😪
The moment where Apocalypse lifted up Adam after stomping on him was hilarious and I don't know if it was meant to be or not. They made that guy look like a muppet.
This Episode is Amazing
Something something Vegeta's Trunks and Bulma's Bra.
Yup, Silver is going to die.
So the sound apocalypse makes when he gets hit by the lightning is the death sound he makes in the fighting games he’s in, that being x-men vs street fighter and marvel vs street fighter.
Black Adam stopped half way through because he lost the living lightning according to people
Then why did even bother saying it if he didn’t have his powers?
And if he wasn’t aware that he lost the living lightning, WHY DID HE STOP HALF WAY THROUGH? He should of said “oh shit” AFTER he finished saying Shazam
I liked the episode, but that was a really bad line
Finally! Someone who sees that Adam did nothing and the ending is too goofy
I don't remember Silver getting much of an upgrade even with Archie scaling. Trunks on the other hand is basically the protagonist of the Xeno continuity so he gets a shit ton of boosts.
0:34-0:45 ... *aye fair enough* sorry for the hype being killed for you -which I may have taken apart of, again sorry- really enjoyed this episode more than I thought, I was actually invested in the analysis more than usual this time around, especially with Apocalypse. Animation was short but sweet, but I couldn't understand was Apocalypse was saying half of the time, but I hear him better now after a few rewatches. Plus Black Adam not finishing his SHAZAM at the end doesn't seem right to me, even without his lighting. The analysis made look like even without his lighting he would still go down swinging or try to hold the boot with his bare hands. But after that, this be my favorite ending for this season thus far. Music was a cheesy banger, even if the vibe doesn't fit either of them. A solid 8 or 9/10 for me.
Adam just gave up.
Shaza- oh I'm dead
archie silver is apparently tier 1 but most feats and powers are mostly just because shadow and sonic can do the same in there super forms. silver otherwise doesnt have much going for him. hes always mainly a telepathic users. and doesnt have much else
he did beat enerjack in his base form who was stronger than walkers (beings who have mastered the power of chaos) so take that as you will
Nemesis just called out MisterDavey let's goooooo!
Also for the music of the episode, I feel bad saying that this is one of the few times I think the music was actually bad, both for the episode and just on its own. I don't know why a rap was chosen to be used for this fight as it doesn't really fit either of the two, on top of it just not exactly being an all too good track, at least personally. Course rap tracks can work for a fight when done well (i.e Miles V Static), but this just really missed the mark I feel
after the analysis was over I as someone with surface knowladge of the caracthers beforehand thought that apocalypse stomps and he did, this was a bad matchup along the lines of ace natsu or vanom and that sound woman
*sound enby
@@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482 what
I thought the soul eater protagonist was male?
The fuck does this sentence even mean lmao
Knowladge,vanom,sound women, cararcthers. I can’t understand what this guy is spitting
There is actually a lot of evidence to suggest that Silver can do the super form on his own. There is no evidence that Sonic gave Silver the super form. Shadow as there too and we know he can achieve the super form. Plus the super form should barely matter as Silver can fight Dark Enerjak for 4 issues straight and he is stronger than any Xeno character. And masters of chaos like silver all have the same baseline for powers. In fact, Silver is shown to be one of the best at controlling chaos energy out of any character so he should be comparable to Sonic and Shadow. So yes there is evidence to say that Silver should scale in power set to Srchie sonic and shadow. Not trying to make this sound aggressive or anything but he just do have legit arguments to say he can use those powers and many instances, chaos magic has granted different characters similar abilities and resistance
Now we got the Rock in TWO death battle thumbnails in a single season
Black Adam has consistently higher showings than Apocalypse ever had and Apocalypse usually jobs to foes of Black Adam's caliber (despite being supposedly really powerful). Pretty weird to see him win this one
They did it to stir up contravorsy and have been doing this which is why i stopped watching em.
Honestly i was expecting Black Adam to take the victory for this like I've seen so many matchups have him win. But this one really surprised me. I thought the episode wasn't really that special though. It was just another stereotypical DC VS Marvel matchup. I think it was a 7/10. But yeah i can't wait for your review on Xeno/DBH Trunks cause vs Archie Silver oh boy i have a lot of mixed feelings on that episode.
I love that this video starts with just clips of The Rock over Black Adam
I was bored out of my skull by apocalypse's analysis, I don't usually skip analysis but for this I had to make an exception. I also ate a hotdog without my hands while watching this episode.
Going by the thumbnail, Xeno Trunks is going to be primarily based on Dragon Ball Heroes. Aside from the fact that Xenoverse!Trunks is either called Time Patroller Trunks or just Trunks, he never showed any signs of getting a new transformation (even Super Saiyan Rage is saved for the Trunks of the Goku Black Saga)
I think that was their idea, that
That face would become a meme people would use
So um…what is “the bit”?
It’s best that you don’t know
The only fun thing about any of this.
Nemesis: Next time is going to be Black Adam featuring Apocalypse; and just like that a monkey's paw began to curl one of it's fingers
Black Adam with his head smashed in looks like if you fused every member of Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem
never knew what The Bit was before you mentioned
The shot of Apocalypse holding Adam is based on that Rock Meme. And Adam's caved in head was originally Beavis from Beavis and Butthead just drawn to look more like Black Adam.
Edit:I just hope they're fair to Silver. Ben already hates him.
0:36 what’s the bit
He also looks like Namor. Like the haircut and face. Compare the earlier battle and it’s gonna be obvious.
The ring is technology. Gobbledygook tech sure, but he could grab the ring and nullify it. At most they show it with him grabbing the tiger, which isn’t clear and is a pretty cool idea
This episode felt like a massive stomp. Not only with stats. But in the animation. I didn't really like how little it seemed they let Black Adam be anything more then just "lightning smash" with using abilities. Apocolypse didn't have to try it felt and still got more creativr thrn blasts and punches. The yellow lantern thing was the only thing that felt "unique" to this all powerful, morally grey god the whole fight. I don't know the bit. I don't really think i wanna know it. But this fight dripped with potential. And if it was as big a stomp as it looked. Why even make it? Vegeta vs Thor was equally short. But the whole fight didn't feel "stomp" just sort of "First Major Hit won" this. This was just Black Adam Flailing and Apocolypse toying with him until he basically got bored. I genuinrly think this is a weaker fight then Predetor vs Boba Fett with a less interesting and more vague analysis and i'd probably say this was the weakest episode in the season. Not terrible but very much felt more of obligation from fans over something they liked making given the "bit" discussion
What's the name of the track used in this video?
This was an actually really enjoyable episode. I thought BA was going to win, considering if we compared to Shazam! but I was wholeheartedly surprised.
Also Marvel vs DC fights are now tied
Before I start watching this (because my opinions are usually influenced when people point out flaws) I want to say I loved the animation...at first, it felt far too short and they might as well have not used the fear ring as black Adam does a total of one thing with it. And the death made no sense, Adam had NO REASON to stop saying Shazam so they removed context for the sake of comedy, the stomping scene felt like a waste of animation and the music didn't fit. Furthermore the fight was only 2 minutes long, but it felt SO much shorter. it starts and then ends, no in between, The best part of the whole fight was Adams final Shazam against giant apocalypse. Otherwise I liked the episode.
Edit: meh, nothing changed.
Edit 2: people in the comments say apocalypse absorbed the living lightning hence why black Adam used that HORRIBLE line, okay compelling argument, but that was horribly conveyed! There was NOTHING showing that happened, let me give an example, Ganon lost the tri-force during his fight with dracula and got a scene visually stating "Oh shit, it's gone, he can't use it" and there wasn't any dumb line for him reacting to it. It was just fear realizing he was fucked, and then killed. That's how they should have done this scene.
Is it just me, or did Apocalypse's voice actor sound more like a ringer for a Vilgax voice?
They should absolutely bring the voice actor back if they do something like Vilgax vs Ridley or whatever his best matchup is
Yeah, the waiting period was a double-edged sword. The enthusiasm was infectious, and I was content just being happy that everyone else was happy, but it honestly was a bit annoying that it basically became a repeat of Minions: The Rise of Gru. The bit wasn't funny there, and frankly, I didn't find it all that funny here either.
Black Adam morphed into Berly Gut real?
I didn't even know wtf that ring was for a second. Was it some kind of lightning thing? I heard he can control lightning so maybe he could change it to a tiger but how were we supposed to know he gets a yellow lantern ring if it isn't mentioned in the rundown! It's just...annoying...
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks face-stomped Adam looks like a Muppet.
For me, I thought this episode was just meh. Don't remember much of the analysis besides Boomstick being a little annoying, the fight seemed meh to me and the music just seemed generic as well, much like you I couldn't understand Apocalypse and found myself annoyed at Black Adam's "Oh shit" thing because from what they explained about him, he wouldn't give up no matter what but here he is, giving up and letting himself get stomped. Also agree with you that the ending was silly because of that face. Honestly if I had time, I could go more in detail of why the fight just didn't work for me, from the music to the voices to the action and ending as a lot of Death Battle episodes did specific things this episode tried to do better. Also while I found the camera having tape on it at the end amusing, I can't really buy that this fight is the thing that broke their camera. So Goku and Superman causing the Earth to implode didn't, Chuck Norris and Segata causing a black hole didn't, Thanos and Darksied throwing around the solar system didn't, Hulk and Broly head butting and warping reality didn't..no, a stomp to the face in a battle that merely cracked the moon is what broke their camera. Okay..sure, that makes sense. All in all, nothing about this episode excited me, felt like a really generic Marvel vs DC fight. Maybe if I had more love for either character it'd be more exciting but it just seemed like another...cape shit? And its followed by another predictable battle that is a stomp so after an interesting matchup we get the millionth Marvel vs DC, then another meh stomp.
He gave up saying Shazam at the end because thought the entire fight his power was being sapped
What's the name of the track used in this video?
I don’t know the bit, the only part I remember was the death and that scene with the yellow lantern ring and just the punch through the chest,
I would prefer the victory where Black Adam picks up Apocalypse trying to use the lightning bolts to kill Apocalypse only 4 Apocalypse to make a whole n this would turn Black Adam back into human form n Apocalypse would jump on him crushing him b4 he changes back
Beautiful intro
Ah yes another check mark for the "This was another death battle" Episode.
When you do How Black Adam vs Apocalypse should have been, can you do a Rock impression?
Pretty sure the reason Black Adam didn’t bother punching the deathseed again cause if ya listen close to 15:30 to hear Apocalypse say “Don’t destroy it” which musta been in Adam’s head cause you know he coulda been crushing that crap
Hey nemesis, are you hyped for black Adam in multiversus?
That little jab at Gaara vs Toph is more annoying to me because it seems like they still think they're right when they didn't factor in how much faster Gaara is and was than her
It was very short to me. I had to watch it over again to see if I missed anything. All the apocalypse scene was awesome
What is "the bit" with biff weed?
Honestly, I liked this episode. Sure, it wasn’t as good as it was the prior episode, but I still really enjoyed it. 8.2/10 from me.
Trunks and Silver basically cancel out 99% of their each other's hax, unfortunately for Silver, Trunks still has his Keysword which is insanely busted.
Yeah, about that sword...
I know it’s coming but imma cry when Silver dies
What is the bit?
Black Adam looks like a muppet at the end
Surprised there was no mention of the track in your review 🤷
What’s the song
When you say xenpverse 2 is bad what do you mean by that
He looks like a muppet (on the comment of Adams stomped face)
Question, What's the bit?
This episode will be debunked soon. Comparing celestials to the quintessence alone leaves room for a massive debunk. Galactus and celestials are fodder to spectre.
Yeah I have no idea what the Black Adam Apocalypse but is and I'm not sure if I want to or not
14:35 Yeweah, but Silver neves use actual Chaos Force...so yeah, sorry Silver
What is "the bit"
I new the bit but didn't know they didn't over do it
imagine pulling up on apocalypse alone u gotta jump mans XD
I’m not sure if we will see Xenoverse since technically the Heroes game Trunks and Xenoverse Trunks are different