As an MK fan I absolutely hate this - This is like the 5th time a mortal kombat character wins and doesn't get a proper fatality or even the FINISH HIM line - They used the "flawless victory" line despite Kahn having a taken a massive amount of damage - Shao Kahn didn't even say "YOU SUCK!" At least the xray was a nice touch
Sub Zero VS Glacius was also a major disservice to both characters, and while Glacius should have absolutely body, that is nothing compared to the shitty research and the disappointing battle itself.
@@daseal1479 I agree bro. I truly feel that akuma should have won this. The whole khan shrugging off a hole in his chest was bs. Khan got that hole put him and had to retreat so Shang shin could heal him.
@@thunderknight0095 He was so out of character in this whole fight, he's a schemer and cheater at his core. Nothing in MK, even the Midway era, shows me he could tank f**king Akuma, let alone Oni, and body him this way. It just isn't right, and fans of both franchises should know this.
Honestly, Geese Vs Heihachi should have been this spot (The late half 3d fight), meanwhile This should have been one of the seasons earlier sprite fights
As much as that fight would be cool, the team itself isn't good with purely hand to hand fights. Even with geese's more range based moveset, I doubt it would work either way
Just realised that kahn would basically die a few minutes after this fight, remember how in MK9 he was on the brink of death and needed shang tsung to heal him? now he's in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere with a hole in his chest and without a heart, so basically they're BOTH dead.
I'm sad Torri doesn't work for the series anymore, this is the kind of matchup he and his team would have beem amazing at, they did Ryu vs Jin so they can clearly use Akuma's moveset correctly while at the same time giving Shao Kahn justice.
My only problem with Kahn vs Akuma was, if you gonna mention Kahns non-canon feats-give my man Akuma some love! For crying out loud, he fought Galactus, Asura and was even an acolyte of Apocalypse! I just wished both sides got their nods. Either way, it was a fun fight.
@@kaisernostalgiaseeker142 yea but not effectively they said he cracked meteors…it was the moon lol…. Also these the same dudes that said ..Android 18 can absorb energy
@@DEVILTRIGGRR, no no they said they didn't scale Akuma to Asura, so while yes, it was the moon, unfortunately that feat was not scaled and they instead used Akuma's meteor shattering attacks in the comics I really did wish they used the Asura's Wrath feat though, would've been awesome to see that.
After seeing the near masterpiece that was Dio vs Alucard, this was a serious letdown. But it had some good points, but not enough to ignore the bad points.
Good video, I was pretty disappointed by this fight and couldn't quite figure out exactly why until you put it into words. Best part of Akuma vs Shao Kahn for me is when Shao Kahn randomly taunts Boomstick mid-analysis, as it's the only moment that I found memorable and the only joke that made me snicker
I liked the ideas that went into Akuma vs Shao Kahn, but the execution just faceplanted. Some things were really cool ideas •Shao Kahn reversing Akuma’s attack, putting said Akuma in a torture rack back breaker before transitioning to the MK9 X-Ray •Shao Kahn trying to rip Akuma’s soul out, only to trigger Oni •Oni referencing the MK9 Donuting of Shao Kahn •Oni attempting the Raging Demon, only for Kahn to turn the tables. Things that should’ve been done •The fight should’ve been in Kahn’s arena •Kahn should be distracted more when taunting •Some of the shots lack impact •The music track is just kinda boring. I get what they were going for, but it seems kinda weak •The Death was just rough. I like the idea. Have Kahn tear off Oni’s arm after stopping the Raging Demon, then throwing him in the way of his hammer before caving his skull in. But it just looked bad! Also, Kahn should be yelling out “FATALITY!” The final blow felt too quick & rushed just to get the fight over with. All that said, the fight seems like it needed some more time in the oven. I don’t hate the episode, but it had some missed potential. Definitely among the lower ones in season 8 for sure
think they got some of the analysis wrong; I mean using Cetrion's lazer beam fatality as a feat isn't canon because fatalities are just game mechanics. I also think Shao Kahn surviving the punch in his chest is unlikely because Liu Kang did the same and he wasn't just able to walk it off he needed other people's help to recover it. Also MK scaling is inconsistent, there's plot armor where a character who isn't universal beats someone who is, example being Katana vs Shao Kahn. The inconsistency goes as far as Liu Kang beating Shao Kahn, Shao Kahn beating Raiden so he has to reset the timeline, and Raiden beating Liu Kang in both timelines. It isn't really a rock paper scissors scenario to me. Also next death battle is such a stomp that they don't see, it reminds me of Twilight Sparkle vs Raven, even though both had hax it was so clear who would win.
And not just the fact that Fatalities are gameplay mechanics. But also the fact that Shao Kahn DOES. NOT. SURVIVE. ANY. OF. THEM. (Including the Cetrion laser beam) Heck. Even Kano can kill Shao Kahn with a beer bottle if we consider the Fatalities in power scaling. That means a normal human hitting Shao Kahn with a beer bottle is enough to kill Shao Kahn. Let that sink in.
@@sharzinlalebazri5673 yea but I think that's where we kinda have to separate game mechanics from feats to a degree, both are fighting game characters meaning the weakest characters in their respective games could beat them, and if we are takingnthe bar that low I would say any character from MK beats Dan, who can beat Akuma in gameplay. I think it's best if we leave negative scaling out of it, at least when it comes to gameplay elements
Reason oni looks weird is because they used the Tekken 7 model of akuma and the shin akuma recolour but then jumped back to the original street fighter 4 oni model which came out back when the artstyle was more cartoonish. Also the whole shao kahn voice issue sounds like whatever the VA was recording on removed all bass from his voice when he spoke so it feels diluted. IMO ....yeah i agree, felt like a mighty racoon fight. i don't know many SFM Hand to hand fights that dont look janky, their strong points are effects and ranged magic fights.
God this was disappointing. The analysis was good. I actually really liked both of them, they were solid and funny with a few moments where I actually laughed. But then the fight came and I have issues. The environment is barren and boring, it's implied there is a tournament going on but we see no other evidence of this, Shao Kahns voice actor does not fit him whatsoever with the Akuma voice actor being meh, the hand to hand looks jank as hell, The entire sequence with Kahn catching the go-haduken to him getting wacked with the hammer is slow, the death is beneath me line is AWFULLY delivered. That uppercut when Akuma powers up makes no fucking sense and looks bad. Oni's glowing eyes look awful and so do the effect clouds that show up, they look like they were added in at post production at times. After Kahn gets a whole punched through his chect everything goes uber jank for a good bit. Akuma seemed to be bodied throughout the entire fight, which I guess makes sense because he lost even at his most powerful his attacks are just taken way too easily. The music was way too quite. Akumas head being crushed not only looked bad but the squish sound effect was timed wrong, it sounded like his head was still being squished while Kahns hammer was being pulled away. Positives? As soon as Akuma powers up it gets better (barring the uppercut) I like the quick back and forth with Akuma kicking Kahn who grabs Akumas leg and throws him into the backbreak into an Xray in one of the few times I can fully see the person on the receiving end just walking it off. The raging demon scene was actually pretty good! Good lighting, but even THEN it's ruined by odd sound design. It's rare when I say an episode is carried by it's analysis. I'm all for the fight, I'm not a serious vs debater. But the fight here was awful. 3/10 Fun analysis bogged down by a fight so poor even the greatest praises I can give it are either decent or bogged down by an immediate fuckup.
In my opinion I like the first 2 episodes a lot since season 1 charm for Akuma vs Shang, and M. Bison analysis is really memorable for me as well as the fight, but I really dislike the newest episode. Death is rather weak, the raging demon looks awful and static. I really wanted a more fluid fight from a character like Akuma. Martial art really ain't their thing lately
I really wanted khan to use a M bison move to finish akuma, just as neat easter egg to his last battle especially the ending of that one epsiode where khan testing out his new power and Boomstick was all like "that can't be good"
I wish Death Battle would use the fact that Akuma in game is a glass canon archetype. He has very low health and stun meaning if he gets hit once or twice, he can lose. I think it would have been interesting to see Akuma have to fight effectively but safely against Shao Kahn since Shao is this massive brute. And if Akuma did get hit, he would really sell it. But if Akuma gets a hit in, he basically rules the fight for awhile similar to how he works in the actual games. (Also, have they done the whole "xray bit" in every mortal kombat battle pass season 2?)
Don’t do that lol …cause when you get beat by Kitana then what …..when you lose to a mortal named Liu Kang with the same punch in this lol ..then he’s not a glass cannon in Tekken ….he’s actually broken …we using feats not gameplay mechanics…you’ve never seen Akuma lose in 2 hits in cannon …or outta cannon …he cracked a moon in half Oni and fought a god to a standstill for 1000 years …he cracked a island in half with a chop …
@@DEVILTRIGGRR Akuma never cracked a moon in half in the actual SF games or even fought a god for 1000years, but he did sink an island but not cracked it and that feat still can't compare to Shao fusing worlds
@@edogodave9386 You know that he is using an item called Portal Orbs/Spheres to do merge realms? You can see 2 of them in Deadly Alliance and in Deception there is a side quest to find one. So basicly they gave him the feat that he did not even do, merging was done by portal orbs and not his own power.
@@nikolakuzmanovic122 He knows that but the spheres are only used for making portals so that Shao would move the realm to the portal, for the portal to merge.
It is unfortunate, because I saw there were a lot of good things that could've come out of the episode. But I do agree that this should've had more time in the oven, because it really came out as....not so great. It feels wrong to me to say that this is my least favorite episode, but I'm starting to see how I just felt underwhelmed. Blake VS Mikasa had its VERY present rendering problem, but there were some things I really liked. Shadow VS Ryuko is more of a personal gripe, but again the fight was good for what it was worth. This episode was running....but really tripped over something on the way. Also the next episode is such a joke of a stomp, I don't even know who thought of it. For me I'd give Akuma VS Shao Kahn a 5/10, I can't really consider it bad, just really meh. If people enjoyed the episode, that's completely fine and respectable.
Yeah that’s what I was saying, the animation and choices when it comes to movement is just… weird, like the storyboard of this is so strange, or at least the layout, cause I don’t know what the storyboard looks like, maybe it was better. It’s honestly crazy how much stuff about the fight you said is exactly what I said. Only a few things different, like I personally like Shao Kahn’s design in MK11 FOR THE MOST PART, a few issues is that I do miss the skull in the middle from the other games, the also how the colors are a bit too meshed together, I feel like some complimentary colors would easily help break the muddled look, and the leather on his back could have significantly been reduced. I was a bit more critical in some areas though, I too am an animator, storyboarder, and concept artist so I’m a bit nitpicky. Like in my opinion the Raging Demon looks off, because the first couple of hits are too slow, and it doesn’t exactly lead into the punching frenzy as smoothly, and I mentioned how the transition from the hammer coming down to Akumas arm being ripped off, it was shot and timed in a way where it made me think the hammer cut his arm off, and I was like “what the fuck?!” It took me a while to get that Shao Kahn just ripped it off with his own arms. And the shot of him throwing Akumas arm away is super weird, his torso is so still while his arm moves so fast, same when he slams the hammer but you already talked about that. Now it seems the problem this whole thing seems to struggle with is ease in, ease out, and anticipation motion. Overall yeah I agree, this does seem rather rushed and I mean no personal offense to the Death Battle SFM/Blender team, it’s just man, after the other animations we got it’s a huge let down. I did have issues with those animations too but they weren’t enough to take my enjoyment out of it. Edit: oh wait you did mention how the hammer looks like it cut his arm in half, never mind.
Ngl, I don't think the reasoning behind Shao Kahn's victory made that much sense. I could be wrong on this but things they outline as 'feats' felt kind've bizarre, like him surviving Liu Kang's chest punch even though he took ages to recover or withstanding an unknown percentage of Elder Gods power even though he still loses. Then they bring in a non-cannon fatality and try to interpret realm merging and...yeeeeaaaah. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm sure that there are some applicable reasons for Shao Kahn's victory but the ones presented weren't all that convincing. It came off to me like they were continuing the trend of MK characters beating ST characters
It does, also that shot from an amped Raiden was before the actual fight against Shao, who died. Also, anyone else tired of them not using a SF character's full arsenal?
Yeah, this is the one episode that i ind questionable this season. Like the character with actual on screen feats losing to a character who’s power is being mostly based on assumptions and weird questionable scaling.
Yeah, I’m saddened. With other episodes this season I watch them so much in the days after but this one I watched it twice then didn’t look back. Which sucks cus I really wanted this episode Specifically because I wanted Akuma to return
Honestly I kinda wish it was a sprite fight but similar to the Ryu vs Liu Kang DBX it starts in the Mortal Kombat 1-3 style with Akuma using his Street Fighter: the Movie video game sprites or even semi-live action to create new original sprites before transitioning into the Street Fighter style in a very natural way, like perhaps Akuma does what he did in Asura's Wrath to Ryu with his Demon Armageddon and kicks Kahn to another dimension before following him through the wormhole he created before fading to black and the music fades out for a moment. As it fades back in from a First Person perspective of Shao looking around confused before getting up (now using MUGEN sprites) before comedically getting the back of his head smashed in by Akuma using a Tatsumaki (even including an X-Ray) for the first hit as the fight picks back up with Akuma turning into Shin Akuma and then Oni.
This is Ridiculous. If Shao Kahn could overpower Akuma at such a high level of Strength and Abilities, then there is no way that Liu Kang would be able to defeat Shao Kahn. It's just doesn't make any sense at all.
Shao Kahn did overpower Liu in the MK11 Aftermath, making them equal in power plus Liu Kang is a character that scales to high tiers like Raiden and Shinnok
To be fair, Shao Kahn always does this. He taunts at his opponents while looking directly at them (and yes I acknowledge the taunt when he laughs looking up) and does nothing when they close in on him
Personally i found the fight to be a step down from the last fight animated by this team. It's ironic cause one of the major gripes i have with most Death Battle episodes is the research but for me the research felt pretty spot on mostly. So it's kinda a first for me where the animation is the major flaw in the episode and not the analysis itself. If i had to give it a ranking i would go for a 5.5/10. It's an an overall average episode for me and to be fair I've seen worse.
I was always under the impression that khan's magic was under certain limitations and rules- like the mortal combat ritual was needed to facilitate the invasion of other realms rather than just some big dimensional schlorp. Besides that's not exactly a feat you can take to a battle if you can still get a hole in your chest from a relatively normal dude.
@@joshuaduon1161 I'm talking more like liu kang and Johnny cage or other more 'hunan' kombatants- not that any of them are pushovers but you would be hard pressed to measure them to akuma
@@jamesmcdonald1108 And doesn't matter when Kahn defeated gods who could nearly destroy a planet and another one who could destroy realms and reality way higher than islands And that meteor feat Akuma did is not even canon to the main games as well so stop using that
Honestly looking back on this I don't like this episode, as nemesis said the animation is far from the best, but my biggest gripe about the episode is that they said shao kahns feat where he fought blaze isnt e en cannon but still gave it to him, now I understand that at one point it was cannon at one point but since it's not anymore I think would have been more balanced and even if they gave aluma some of his none cannon featd like when he fought asira for 500 years. Plus I'm just tired of them putting streat fighter characters in to these fights just to kill them, I mean I can count of my hand the number of times a streat fighter characters has one a fight in death battle and by the way that number is only four
I don't remember any of Khan's endings being used. And Blaze's is actually a legit gauge of power, considering that's actually what would have happened if Blaze had won Granted I could have missed something, I was somewhat busy when watching the video.
They used canon feats for Shao Kahn, and they were just for view, plus explain when and were Akuma busted a meteorite and leaped into heaven, if I remember that was from a non-canon ending from a crossover game which main games do not count
Great job on getting hired on to voice Shao Kahn, did a great job 👍 (It'll be funny if you voice him in how it should've been and he sounds exactly the same)
13:41 me when i ask akuma whats his favorite david bowie song Fr tho they should have held back on the 3D animation and make it 2D, if OMM ever returns i hope they give this MU justice Also dad bod oni is horrifying but in the wrong way
2 years late but what ever, they calculated Shao Khan merging realms as his own feat while in DA and Deception it was reveleaded that he merged realms by using an item called Portal Orbs/Spheres. We can see 2 in DA and find one in Deception side quest.
3 days late but even if he is using portal spheres, the spheres were only used to close the realms while Shao himself moves the planet. And besides the portal he used for Earth is revealed to be his own anyway.
I agree with the environment. I feel like it shouldn't taken place at night. Like imagine the taking place at the MK11 arena but at night? I feel lioe the fight happening during the day is...not good to me given the characters
I thought it was really weird how they brought up a feat from one of the Capcom vs SNK games as if they were completely canon to the Street Fighter timeline, but then didn't bring up anything else from those games like Shin Akuma's soul overtaking Omega Rugal
i can agree with you to some extent, your opinion is very respected and noted cause yea the fight was a little bit janky at times and Akuma's model change was really shit, but i do quite love shao kahn's MK11 model as it makes him look more like a Shokan rather than just a giant humanoid being. the Analysis was pretty good i did like Akuma's a bit more than Shao kahn's cause i know most of what Shao kahn can do/already did so it was a pretty decent refresher. the death should have been Shao kahn using one of his Fatalities from either 9 or 11 to make it feel more impactful and to show just how well a 3D FATALITY can be when not in the MK games. if it was a sprite fight where it can have all the dynamic moveset that both characters can use to their fullest then it could have been one of season 8's best but yea sadly it does get dragged a lot by some pretty janky and weird looking moments that wasn't very good to look at, at all.
This episode would have been better if, and i dont say this to be mean, Shao Kahn actually sounded like.... Shao Kahn Its so strange how this is the first episode of season 8 with an actual inaccurate voice. (Or maybe there's another episode that i didn't notice) Like, most people who know fighting games can give a brief summary on how shao sounds, how could you mess that up so spectacularly
I never been one to notice bad animation but with this one when I saw the preview I was like "Wow this look like shit, maybe its not finished" *Actual episode* "Oh..."
When I see the hole Akuma punched into Shao Kahn, I am reminded of that joke from Kung Pow. That's like his stomach plug on the ground back there, sheesh you don't see that every day.
Enjoyed the vidoe nemesis still salty that akuma lost to shao khann Also i want to hear your thoughts on some matchs ups if you can respond to this video Ultron (comics) or ai (yu gi oh vrains) vs μ (pronounced Mu from caligula effect series) To scale mu a bit shes a sentiant vocaloid style ai that made a universe and combined mobious the world she created with reality and in one of the endings she has the power to destroy reality and pretty much killed everyone Hyde (undernight) vs kirito (sao) I would like to hear your opinions in undernight scaling cause people tend to down play jndernight characters but they have insane hax and abilities and a huge feat they all share is anle to take blows from hydes insolator that pretty much is impossible to block and it translates to gameplay as insane chip damage Im up to chat about this if you want plus you seem like a pretty cool dude to talk too
They rushed that fight so hard. The research blew hard, and the lack of action care to the animation showed. They had months to research everything and it was just them jacking off shoa Kahn and spitting on Akuma
13:29 Yeah the movement looks like a action figure fighting another action figure and with the only action the figure uses. And those who have used action figures will more or less get what I’m talking about.
17:53 I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by Shao Kahn saying Flawless Victory instead of Fatality. He has a F*cking Hole in his Torso and his Helmet got Nocked off, it's not Flawless. Or even a simple "Its Official, You Suck" would have worked
I think I am a bit more forgiving of shao khan vs akuma as I work with 3d game models to create fanart and trust me mortal kombat and Espically street fighter models are a pain the arse to deal with, so man weird bones and jank you can tell they aren't made for anything but 2d fighting and the bare minimum talking, so I do sympathize with the animators on this one, also mk getting another win is just a plus for me
@@ripzmad9846 or injustice Scorpion and Trigon for Shao Kahn. Either way, crossovers have waay too much nerfing and wanking to compensate for power creep.
Glad I'm not the only one who had an issue with the fight. How does a 3D fight go from looking as amazing as BROLY VS HULK, To this? Heck Heihachi VS Geese makes this Fight look.... well very Lackluster. They Fought on a Volcano. But Shao and Gouki fight, in a desert..... hmm.....
Like, the fight isn't great, but I did kind of find it neat how the first 2/3rds of the fight were from the side, like MK or Street Fighter. Should've only really been that way at the beginning and not more than half the battle but eh. Just finding something to find good
Here are my opinions... Akuma vs Shang Tsung: for a very old episode,this is one of my favorite episode Shao Kahn vs Bison: I know who wins,but the Final Bison one suck! Bison has hit Shao Kahn many times in base form,but when he gets in final form,he was the one who gets beaten... Akuma vs Shao Kahn: being an Akuma fan makes it clear why I don't like the episode,but it doesn't means I hate Shao Kahn,I'm also a MK fan. If Shao Kahn's heart was gone,he would've slowly died like what Liu Kang did to him,which also means Kahn couldn't have been able to keep up with his Shun Goku Satsu. Also,I don't understand why characters in SF are weaker in super form than in base form...Shao Kahn easily defeated Shin Akuma which is way stronger than ordinary Akuma
The analysis was kinda shit on this one. Shao Khan did not survive survive getting punched through, without the help of Quan Chi, nor did he survive against Raiden w/elder god powers. He was killed, but was later brought back from a past timeline by Kronika.
Now you are cherrypicking lies just to nerf Kahn. Shao Kahn DID survive getting impaled, Quan Chi just healed him not revive him and he did survive a blast from Raiden w/Elder Gods, he only died from the 2nd blast, which struggled to kill him
@@edogodave9386 If you are going to be 9 months late, at least take the time to point out where these "lies" are. Besides, why did Quan Chi need to heal his wounds, if it weren't fatal? Would Kahn just not walk it off otherwise? Whether it was the first, second, or fourteenth blast from the elder gods, it still killed him. The claim was that he survived. You went too far far outta your way for this one.
@@tonyx2644 About the impalement thing, Kahn still survived, Quan Chi simply healed the wounds, there is nothing that indicates he resurrected him plus it was a Finisher move, you know very well that he tanked that first blast, he died from the second blast after being beaten and you can see the blast struggling to destroy Kahn. I am staing what actually happened here
@@edogodave9386 Again. What was the point in healing a wound, that wasn't fatal? If Kahn could shrug off the death blow in MK3, he wouldn't be absent in later games.
Ok, so they used a fatality as a feat even though by that logic Shao Kahn can die to Kano using a bottle, also the same fatality kills him so there's no feat. When Liu Kang punched a hole through Shao Kahn, everyone thought that Shao Kahn died and the dude had to get healed so he could stand up again, Liu Kang's punch is much weaker than Oni's so the punch in the battle should have destroyed Shao Kahn but nope, dude just shrugged it off. And the most egregious of them all is Shao Kahn surviving the Raging Demon, that attack goes through even the most durable of opponents to attack the soul directly (doesn't matter if Shao Kahn has more than one soul, it's still the same) and even DB states that Akuma can kill Shao yet he also shrugs it off. They could have made Shao Kahn win and I'd be fine with it if it weren't like this but based on everything Akuma should have won.
@@praghoxshochkweaveblossom5627 Shao Kahn can react to Raiden who is as fast as lightning he will still react to Raging Demon you are just biased that Akuma lost you don't even know the Raging Demon has limits as Gen has reacted to it
That was for animation purposes, they would have left it out if they wanted to, plus Shao Kahn can survive having a hole in his chest of course he would shrug it off Shao Kahn can obviously counter Raging Demon because he kept up with faster stuff So Shao Kahn stomps Akuma
No, they used the time Shao Kahn one time tanked an Elder God blast, which later struggled to kill him, they used a fatality as an example to measure how strong the feat is. Bruh, the main reason why Shao Kahn was thought to be dead is because HE LOST and Quan Chi only healed his injuries so you can't compare it to Oni's and Oni's punch won't do jack to Shao Kahn, considering only Planetary beings and far above can destroy which Oni is nowhere near. Shao Kahn did not survibve the Rging Demon in that animation, he simply just countered the last blow and yes, Raging Demon can be countered cause Gen has done it with no problem in SFA3, Death Battle states that Akuma can kill Kahn, ONLY IF HE COMPLETES THE RAGING DEMON, which he did not at all And nice salt, Shao Kahn still wins imo
Nemesis calling Oni cute is the most surprisingly endearing thing I wasn't expecting today.
As an MK fan I absolutely hate this
- This is like the 5th time a mortal kombat character wins and doesn't get a proper fatality or even the FINISH HIM line
- They used the "flawless victory" line despite Kahn having a taken a massive amount of damage
- Shao Kahn didn't even say "YOU SUCK!"
At least the xray was a nice touch
I hate that Cammy vs Sonya, a very old fight did more justice to the finish him/her moment.
Sub Zero VS Glacius was also a major disservice to both characters, and while Glacius should have absolutely body, that is nothing compared to the shitty research and the disappointing battle itself.
Mortal kombat has weirdly mixed record on DB with is so weird
@@windindi2834 I haven’t seen any debunk videos on Sub Zero vs Glacius.
I think the flawless victory line was only used to reference the flawless victory line in Kahn vs Bison. I could be wrong though
You predicted correctly, Nemesis. Shao Khan did, in fact, cave Akuma’s fucking head in.
With the weakest hammer swing I have ever seen
I still don't understand the asspull that they had to go through for Shao Kahn to body Akuma THAT hard. This fight should have gone much differently.
I also think Akuma sounded just as bad as Kahn, they sounded nothing like they should.
@@daseal1479 I agree bro. I truly feel that akuma should have won this. The whole khan shrugging off a hole in his chest was bs. Khan got that hole put him and had to retreat so Shang shin could heal him.
@@thunderknight0095 He was so out of character in this whole fight, he's a schemer and cheater at his core. Nothing in MK, even the Midway era, shows me he could tank f**king Akuma, let alone Oni, and body him this way. It just isn't right, and fans of both franchises should know this.
Shao Kahn:Flawless Victory
Me: That Hole in your chest seems to disagree
Someone’s talkin a lot of shit for being in Star platinum range.
Tis but a scratch
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Didn't he survive that because of Quan Chi magic? In 1v1 he should be dead
I thought the same lol
Don’t worry, the time and budget are being saved for the last two MEGA episodes of the season which I have extreme expectations for.
is there any confirmation of that??
I know one is madra v aizen, what’s the other?
@@realrealwarpet no one knows, many people think it's Galactus Vs Unicron
@@galantine723 cuz it was leaked Thats why
@@galantine723 ive heard galactus wins, but i dont know shit about unicron.
My personal favorite part of the episode was Wiz and Boomstick discussing the origins of Oni. I love when Death Battle does things like that
I personally found the interaction wiz and boomstick with the oil bit was kinda wholesome
I agree, even if they're not entirely correct
@@nathanpinell6274 you mean LUUUUUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@anafu-sankanashi8933 you know what I ment
Like they did with The pokemon battle royal
Why did I expect the Master Bison song to end with a “That’s right Boomstick”.
I feel like this was double jarring since GB vs RF and Dio vs Alucard were absolute bangers
Yeah, and while Batman vs Iron Man and Macho Man vs Kool Aid Man had problems, their animations where of a much bigger quality and much more polished.
Out of all people, I was not expecting to see you here, but yeah you’re right
Honestly, Geese Vs Heihachi should have been this spot (The late half 3d fight), meanwhile This should have been one of the seasons earlier sprite fights
I dunno, man. It'd focus more on hand-to-hand combat which is clearly not the strong suit for this team.
As much as that fight would be cool, the team itself isn't good with purely hand to hand fights. Even with geese's more range based moveset, I doubt it would work either way
I'm conflicted on how much I liked this Death Battle. The animation itself felt lackluster but the choragraphy was actually pretty good.
Just realised that kahn would basically die a few minutes after this fight, remember how in MK9 he was on the brink of death and needed shang tsung to heal him?
now he's in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere with a hole in his chest and without a heart, so basically they're BOTH dead.
No, Shao Kahn is confirmed by the MK creators to survive while being impaled, heck even without a heart
I'm sad Torri doesn't work for the series anymore, this is the kind of matchup he and his team would have beem amazing at, they did Ryu vs Jin so they can clearly use Akuma's moveset correctly while at the same time giving Shao Kahn justice.
Master bison, he's our hero is based as hell, and that joke is only rivaled by that man
Gonna take polution down to zero!
The most interesting thing about either analysis is Boomstick saying the phrase "Big Shot"
Big shot plays in the background
[[BIG SHOT]]
Spamton wants to know Boomstick’s location.
My only problem with Kahn vs Akuma was, if you gonna mention Kahns non-canon feats-give my man Akuma some love! For crying out loud, he fought Galactus, Asura and was even an acolyte of Apocalypse! I just wished both sides got their nods. Either way, it was a fun fight.
Yeah I said that on the main video and got no response they even try to use Asuras wrath.
@@Warhammerdoom_Chantcaller, I think they actually mention it on the Akuma VS Shao Kahn commentary
@@kaisernostalgiaseeker142 yea but not effectively they said he cracked meteors…it was the moon lol….
Also these the same dudes that said ..Android 18 can absorb energy
@@DEVILTRIGGRR, no no they said they didn't scale Akuma to Asura, so while yes, it was the moon, unfortunately that feat was not scaled and they instead used Akuma's meteor shattering attacks in the comics
I really did wish they used the Asura's Wrath feat though, would've been awesome to see that.
Kahn was given canon feats, Akuma was the one who was given non-canon feats
"Let us make Outworld great again". I'm so glad you kept that quote for an example
Shao Trump.
After seeing the near masterpiece that was Dio vs Alucard, this was a serious letdown. But it had some good points, but not enough to ignore the bad points.
Good video, I was pretty disappointed by this fight and couldn't quite figure out exactly why until you put it into words. Best part of Akuma vs Shao Kahn for me is when Shao Kahn randomly taunts Boomstick mid-analysis, as it's the only moment that I found memorable and the only joke that made me snicker
I liked the ideas that went into Akuma vs Shao Kahn, but the execution just faceplanted.
Some things were really cool ideas
•Shao Kahn reversing Akuma’s attack, putting said Akuma in a torture rack back breaker before transitioning to the MK9 X-Ray
•Shao Kahn trying to rip Akuma’s soul out, only to trigger Oni
•Oni referencing the MK9 Donuting of Shao Kahn
•Oni attempting the Raging Demon, only for Kahn to turn the tables.
Things that should’ve been done
•The fight should’ve been in Kahn’s arena
•Kahn should be distracted more when taunting
•Some of the shots lack impact
•The music track is just kinda boring. I get what they were going for, but it seems kinda weak
•The Death was just rough. I like the idea. Have Kahn tear off Oni’s arm after stopping the Raging Demon, then throwing him in the way of his hammer before caving his skull in. But it just looked bad! Also, Kahn should be yelling out “FATALITY!”
The final blow felt too quick & rushed just to get the fight over with.
All that said, the fight seems like it needed some more time in the oven. I don’t hate the episode, but it had some missed potential. Definitely among the lower ones in season 8 for sure
Well at least Gianni got his first DB Win after 6 years
Also Any opinions on the Shao Kahn vs Master Bison Alternative Ending?
That alternate ending was beautiful.
Your version of Akuma’s transformation is sick, keep up the great work nem.
think they got some of the analysis wrong;
I mean using Cetrion's lazer beam fatality as a feat isn't canon because fatalities are just game mechanics.
I also think Shao Kahn surviving the punch in his chest is unlikely because Liu Kang did the same and he wasn't just able to walk it off he needed other people's help to recover it.
Also MK scaling is inconsistent, there's plot armor where a character who isn't universal beats someone who is, example being Katana vs Shao Kahn.
The inconsistency goes as far as Liu Kang beating Shao Kahn, Shao Kahn beating Raiden so he has to reset the timeline, and Raiden beating Liu Kang in both timelines. It isn't really a rock paper scissors scenario to me.
Also next death battle is such a stomp that they don't see, it reminds me of Twilight Sparkle vs Raven, even though both had hax it was so clear who would win.
And not just the fact that Fatalities are gameplay mechanics. But also the fact that Shao Kahn DOES. NOT. SURVIVE. ANY. OF. THEM. (Including the Cetrion laser beam) Heck. Even Kano can kill Shao Kahn with a beer bottle if we consider the Fatalities in power scaling. That means a normal human hitting Shao Kahn with a beer bottle is enough to kill Shao Kahn. Let that sink in.
@@sharzinlalebazri5673 yea but I think that's where we kinda have to separate game mechanics from feats to a degree, both are fighting game characters meaning the weakest characters in their respective games could beat them, and if we are takingnthe bar that low I would say any character from MK beats Dan, who can beat Akuma in gameplay.
I think it's best if we leave negative scaling out of it, at least when it comes to gameplay elements
Shao Kahn survived the hole but it takes a long time for him to heal.
More than enough for Akuma to win.
Shao Kahn isn't universal though?
@@ShogunPlasma But he is concistently Planetary tho, so it's a stomp
Reason oni looks weird is because they used the Tekken 7 model of akuma and the shin akuma recolour but then jumped back to the original street fighter 4 oni model which came out back when the artstyle was more cartoonish.
Also the whole shao kahn voice issue sounds like whatever the VA was recording on removed all bass from his voice when he spoke so it feels diluted.
IMO ....yeah i agree, felt like a mighty racoon fight. i don't know many SFM Hand to hand fights that dont look janky, their strong points are effects and ranged magic fights.
God this was disappointing. The analysis was good. I actually really liked both of them, they were solid and funny with a few moments where I actually laughed. But then the fight came and I have issues.
The environment is barren and boring, it's implied there is a tournament going on but we see no other evidence of this, Shao Kahns voice actor does not fit him whatsoever with the Akuma voice actor being meh, the hand to hand looks jank as hell, The entire sequence with Kahn catching the go-haduken to him getting wacked with the hammer is slow, the death is beneath me line is AWFULLY delivered. That uppercut when Akuma powers up makes no fucking sense and looks bad. Oni's glowing eyes look awful and so do the effect clouds that show up, they look like they were added in at post production at times. After Kahn gets a whole punched through his chect everything goes uber jank for a good bit. Akuma seemed to be bodied throughout the entire fight, which I guess makes sense because he lost even at his most powerful his attacks are just taken way too easily. The music was way too quite. Akumas head being crushed not only looked bad but the squish sound effect was timed wrong, it sounded like his head was still being squished while Kahns hammer was being pulled away.
Positives?
As soon as Akuma powers up it gets better (barring the uppercut) I like the quick back and forth with Akuma kicking Kahn who grabs Akumas leg and throws him into the backbreak into an Xray in one of the few times I can fully see the person on the receiving end just walking it off. The raging demon scene was actually pretty good! Good lighting, but even THEN it's ruined by odd sound design.
It's rare when I say an episode is carried by it's analysis. I'm all for the fight, I'm not a serious vs debater. But the fight here was awful. 3/10 Fun analysis bogged down by a fight so poor even the greatest praises I can give it are either decent or bogged down by an immediate fuckup.
At this point, the budget is just crying for help.
Edit: Also, you said “Shao” instead of Shang at 2:02.
That last thing you said has me dying 💀 🤣
It feels like All the Budget and Passion went to the Goku Black vs Reverse Flash and Dio vs Alucard fights when compared to this one
Shoa Kahn vs Akuma was so boring to me I felt almost nothing, especially after the great Goku Black vs Reverse Flash and Dio vs Alucard
Really should have more action considering the opponents.
In my opinion I like the first 2 episodes a lot since season 1 charm for Akuma vs Shang, and M. Bison analysis is really memorable for me as well as the fight, but I really dislike the newest episode. Death is rather weak, the raging demon looks awful and static. I really wanted a more fluid fight from a character like Akuma. Martial art really ain't their thing lately
Agreed mate
The best martial arts fight they did was Ryu vs Jinn
@@HoV326 wasn't that toriyan?cuz if so he left sadly
I really wanted khan to use a M bison move to finish akuma, just as neat easter egg to his last battle especially the ending of that one epsiode where khan testing out his new power and Boomstick was all like "that can't be good"
I wish Death Battle would use the fact that Akuma in game is a glass canon archetype. He has very low health and stun meaning if he gets hit once or twice, he can lose. I think it would have been interesting to see Akuma have to fight effectively but safely against Shao Kahn since Shao is this massive brute. And if Akuma did get hit, he would really sell it. But if Akuma gets a hit in, he basically rules the fight for awhile similar to how he works in the actual games.
(Also, have they done the whole "xray bit" in every mortal kombat battle pass season 2?)
Don’t do that lol …cause when you get beat by Kitana then what …..when you lose to a mortal named Liu Kang with the same punch in this lol ..then he’s not a glass cannon in Tekken ….he’s actually broken …we using feats not gameplay mechanics…you’ve never seen Akuma lose in 2 hits in cannon …or outta cannon …he cracked a moon in half Oni and fought a god to a standstill for 1000 years …he cracked a island in half with a chop …
thats only for balancing, meant to show hes holding back. shin akuma is tankier than zangief
@@DEVILTRIGGRR Akuma never cracked a moon in half in the actual SF games or even fought a god for 1000years, but he did sink an island but not cracked it and that feat still can't compare to Shao fusing worlds
@@edogodave9386 You know that he is using an item called Portal Orbs/Spheres to do merge realms? You can see 2 of them in Deadly Alliance and in Deception there is a side quest to find one. So basicly they gave him the feat that he did not even do, merging was done by portal orbs and not his own power.
@@nikolakuzmanovic122 He knows that but the spheres are only used for making portals so that Shao would move the realm to the portal, for the portal to merge.
Feel like I'm the only one who would place this in their top 5 this season, but hey, good stuff as usual nemesis:)
It is unfortunate, because I saw there were a lot of good things that could've come out of the episode. But I do agree that this should've had more time in the oven, because it really came out as....not so great. It feels wrong to me to say that this is my least favorite episode, but I'm starting to see how I just felt underwhelmed. Blake VS Mikasa had its VERY present rendering problem, but there were some things I really liked. Shadow VS Ryuko is more of a personal gripe, but again the fight was good for what it was worth. This episode was running....but really tripped over something on the way. Also the next episode is such a joke of a stomp, I don't even know who thought of it.
For me I'd give Akuma VS Shao Kahn a 5/10, I can't really consider it bad, just really meh. If people enjoyed the episode, that's completely fine and respectable.
If korra vs storm ends up being better than akuma vs Kahn, I’m gonna eat a lunchbox
Storm stomps
@@superironman8324 You don't need to state the obvious
I was faked out by the raging demon scene only because I thought nobody could counter in middle of akuma doing the move
Um Gen did in the one of the intros of SFA3
Yeah that’s what I was saying, the animation and choices when it comes to movement is just… weird, like the storyboard of this is so strange, or at least the layout, cause I don’t know what the storyboard looks like, maybe it was better. It’s honestly crazy how much stuff about the fight you said is exactly what I said.
Only a few things different, like I personally like Shao Kahn’s design in MK11 FOR THE MOST PART, a few issues is that I do miss the skull in the middle from the other games, the also how the colors are a bit too meshed together, I feel like some complimentary colors would easily help break the muddled look, and the leather on his back could have significantly been reduced.
I was a bit more critical in some areas though, I too am an animator, storyboarder, and concept artist so I’m a bit nitpicky. Like in my opinion the Raging Demon looks off, because the first couple of hits are too slow, and it doesn’t exactly lead into the punching frenzy as smoothly, and I mentioned how the transition from the hammer coming down to Akumas arm being ripped off, it was shot and timed in a way where it made me think the hammer cut his arm off, and I was like “what the fuck?!”
It took me a while to get that Shao Kahn just ripped it off with his own arms. And the shot of him throwing Akumas arm away is super weird, his torso is so still while his arm moves so fast, same when he slams the hammer but you already talked about that. Now it seems the problem this whole thing seems to struggle with is ease in, ease out, and anticipation motion.
Overall yeah I agree, this does seem rather rushed and I mean no personal offense to the Death Battle SFM/Blender team, it’s just man, after the other animations we got it’s a huge let down. I did have issues with those animations too but they weren’t enough to take my enjoyment out of it.
Edit: oh wait you did mention how the hammer looks like it cut his arm in half, never mind.
Ngl, I don't think the reasoning behind Shao Kahn's victory made that much sense. I could be wrong on this but things they outline as 'feats' felt kind've bizarre, like him surviving Liu Kang's chest punch even though he took ages to recover or withstanding an unknown percentage of Elder Gods power even though he still loses. Then they bring in a non-cannon fatality and try to interpret realm merging and...yeeeeaaaah. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm sure that there are some applicable reasons for Shao Kahn's victory but the ones presented weren't all that convincing. It came off to me like they were continuing the trend of MK characters beating ST characters
It does, also that shot from an amped Raiden was before the actual fight against Shao, who died. Also, anyone else tired of them not using a SF character's full arsenal?
Yeah, this is the one episode that i ind questionable this season. Like the character with actual on screen feats losing to a character who’s power is being mostly based on assumptions and weird questionable scaling.
Yeah, I’m saddened. With other episodes this season I watch them so much in the days after but this one I watched it twice then didn’t look back. Which sucks cus I really wanted this episode Specifically because I wanted Akuma to return
...can ANYTHING get the use of "Flawless Victory" right? None of the movies did, neither did this.
i have a problem with how Khan was still able to fight after getting a hole punched in him
last time that happened he needed quan chi to heal him
The Oni punching thing looks like he is giving Shao a massage XD
Honestly I kinda wish it was a sprite fight but similar to the Ryu vs Liu Kang DBX it starts in the Mortal Kombat 1-3 style with Akuma using his Street Fighter: the Movie video game sprites or even semi-live action to create new original sprites before transitioning into the Street Fighter style in a very natural way, like perhaps Akuma does what he did in Asura's Wrath to Ryu with his Demon Armageddon and kicks Kahn to another dimension before following him through the wormhole he created before fading to black and the music fades out for a moment.
As it fades back in from a First Person perspective of Shao looking around confused before getting up (now using MUGEN sprites) before comedically getting the back of his head smashed in by Akuma using a Tatsumaki (even including an X-Ray) for the first hit as the fight picks back up with Akuma turning into Shin Akuma and then Oni.
This is Ridiculous. If Shao Kahn could overpower Akuma at such a high level of Strength and Abilities, then there is no way that Liu Kang would be able to defeat Shao Kahn. It's just doesn't make any sense at all.
Shao Kahn did overpower Liu in the MK11 Aftermath, making them equal in power plus Liu Kang is a character that scales to high tiers like Raiden and Shinnok
Its called plot armor genius
Also liu kang is not a joke he is a fire and thunder god
The desert is from DOA5
13:11 In my eyes, Akuma looks like he turned his fist into Megaman’s buster before doing the island punch.
To be fair, Shao Kahn always does this. He taunts at his opponents while looking directly at them (and yes I acknowledge the taunt when he laughs looking up) and does nothing when they close in on him
Personally i found the fight to be a step down from the last fight animated by this team. It's ironic cause one of the major gripes i have with most Death Battle episodes is the research but for me the research felt pretty spot on mostly. So it's kinda a first for me where the animation is the major flaw in the episode and not the analysis itself. If i had to give it a ranking i would go for a 5.5/10. It's an an overall average episode for me and to be fair I've seen worse.
I would give this episode 5/10 liked it more than Blake vs Mikasa but that's my street fighter bias kicking in.
Bro I dead ass got so bored during this episode I went and made a sandwich .
How was the sandwich?
Yeah lol no you didn't.
@@maxlolbits2182 actually ok it was chicken and pesto very nice
@@ChichenItza91 sir why are you doubting me
I was always under the impression that khan's magic was under certain limitations and rules- like the mortal combat ritual was needed to facilitate the invasion of other realms rather than just some big dimensional schlorp. Besides that's not exactly a feat you can take to a battle if you can still get a hole in your chest from a relatively normal dude.
Yeah and Akuma punching holes in chests was not canon they just exaggerated
@@joshuaduon1161 I'm talking more like liu kang and Johnny cage or other more 'hunan' kombatants- not that any of them are pushovers but you would be hard pressed to measure them to akuma
@@jamesmcdonald1108 Yeah but still Akuma punching through chests was from a manga which is not canon to the games
@@joshuaduon1161 doesn't matter when he can still shatter an island under his fist- or take out a huge meteor with an uppercut.
@@jamesmcdonald1108 And doesn't matter when Kahn defeated gods who could nearly destroy a planet and another one who could destroy realms and reality way higher than islands
And that meteor feat Akuma did is not even canon to the main games as well so stop using that
Honestly looking back on this I don't like this episode, as nemesis said the animation is far from the best, but my biggest gripe about the episode is that they said shao kahns feat where he fought blaze isnt e en cannon but still gave it to him,
now I understand that at one point it was cannon at one point but since it's not anymore I think would have been more balanced and even if they gave aluma some of his none cannon featd like when he fought asira for 500 years.
Plus I'm just tired of them putting streat fighter characters in to these fights just to kill them, I mean I can count of my hand the number of times a streat fighter characters has one a fight in death battle and by the way that number is only four
Been waiting for Nemesis to tear into this one.
I get serious Saitama vs Kenshiro vibes from 13:56-14:18.
My only issue with the death battle was that they used non-canon ladder endings for Shao Kahn, but none for Akuma, skewing it towards Shao.
I don't remember any of Khan's endings being used. And Blaze's is actually a legit gauge of power, considering that's actually what would have happened if Blaze had won
Granted I could have missed something, I was somewhat busy when watching the video.
They used canon feats for Shao Kahn, and they were just for view, plus explain when and were Akuma busted a meteorite and leaped into heaven, if I remember that was from a non-canon ending from a crossover game which main games do not count
And gameplay mechanics were used for Shao Kahn but none for Akuma.
@@DaquanHarrison Gameplays mechanics were not used for Kahn. Stop huffing paint
@@speedosound4262 Yes, they were
Great job on getting hired on to voice Shao Kahn, did a great job 👍
(It'll be funny if you voice him in how it should've been and he sounds exactly the same)
are you going to do a vid on the rules of deathbattle and how frequently they break them or not?? I would love to see that.
13:41 me when i ask akuma whats his favorite david bowie song
Fr tho they should have held back on the 3D animation and make it 2D, if OMM ever returns i hope they give this MU justice
Also dad bod oni is horrifying but in the wrong way
2 years late but what ever, they calculated Shao Khan merging realms as his own feat while in DA and Deception it was reveleaded that he merged realms by using an item called Portal Orbs/Spheres. We can see 2 in DA and find one in Deception side quest.
3 days late but even if he is using portal spheres, the spheres were only used to close the realms while Shao himself moves the planet. And besides the portal he used for Earth is revealed to be his own anyway.
@@speedosound4262 See why I call you a stalker
@@speedosound4262 And once again you make shit up without back up. where did you even get that description, right no where.
@@nikolakuzmanovic122 Well you did reply to this 2 years ago.
@@nikolakuzmanovic122 I didn't make anything up. More recent versions of his Earth invasion showed it was his portal.
I was so hyped for this battle. The switcheroo at the end pissed me off. Watching this video though, there was an overwhelming lack of polish.
I think for the taunt akuma may have teleported.
I agree with the environment. I feel like it shouldn't taken place at night. Like imagine the taking place at the MK11 arena but at night? I feel lioe the fight happening during the day is...not good to me given the characters
Looking forward to next week's stomp.. seriously who in their right mind puts an Omega Mutant against anyone who isn't Close to a planet buster?!
Stuff like that makes me wonder what the crunch was...
I thought it was really weird how they brought up a feat from one of the Capcom vs SNK games as if they were completely canon to the Street Fighter timeline, but then didn't bring up anything else from those games like Shin Akuma's soul overtaking Omega Rugal
13:56
I really wanted to facepalm when I saw this shot. This looks BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!
i can agree with you to some extent, your opinion is very respected and noted cause yea the fight was a little bit janky at times and Akuma's model change was really shit, but i do quite love shao kahn's MK11 model as it makes him look more like a Shokan rather than just a giant humanoid being. the Analysis was pretty good i did like Akuma's a bit more than Shao kahn's cause i know most of what Shao kahn can do/already did so it was a pretty decent refresher. the death should have been Shao kahn using one of his Fatalities from either 9 or 11 to make it feel more impactful and to show just how well a 3D FATALITY can be when not in the MK games. if it was a sprite fight where it can have all the dynamic moveset that both characters can use to their fullest then it could have been one of season 8's best but yea sadly it does get dragged a lot by some pretty janky and weird looking moments that wasn't very good to look at, at all.
15:25 well I'll never unsee that
i get the feeling that the "flawless victory" line is a MK movie reference. even though that was shang tsung's line...
How are they gonna go from potentially one of the greatest Death Battles of all time to this?
'Oh, hey look, he can finger-paint.' insert sitcom laughter
Not to excuse it since I still think it's stupid but I assumed the poor use of flawless victory was a reference to the first MK movie
When this season is over could you do a ranking or Season 8 shots
I truly believe this fight could go either way!
I think the "flawless victory" part was a reference to the movies where they always get it wrong.... At least I hope so 😂
This episode would have been better if, and i dont say this to be mean, Shao Kahn actually sounded like.... Shao Kahn
Its so strange how this is the first episode of season 8 with an actual inaccurate voice. (Or maybe there's another episode that i didn't notice)
Like, most people who know fighting games can give a brief summary on how shao sounds, how could you mess that up so spectacularly
Oni's face when Kahn reflects his attack back at him is funny to me. He's just like: "Oh... I should have thought this through."
I never been one to notice bad animation but with this one when I saw the preview I was like "Wow this look like shit, maybe its not finished"
*Actual episode* "Oh..."
When I see the hole Akuma punched into Shao Kahn, I am reminded of that joke from Kung Pow. That's like his stomach plug on the ground back there, sheesh you don't see that every day.
Enjoyed the vidoe nemesis still salty that akuma lost to shao khann
Also i want to hear your thoughts on some matchs ups if you can respond to this video
Ultron (comics) or ai (yu gi oh vrains) vs μ (pronounced Mu from caligula effect series)
To scale mu a bit shes a sentiant vocaloid style ai that made a universe and combined mobious the world she created with reality and in one of the endings she has the power to destroy reality and pretty much killed everyone
Hyde (undernight) vs kirito (sao)
I would like to hear your opinions in undernight scaling cause people tend to down play jndernight characters but they have insane hax and abilities and a huge feat they all share is anle to take blows from hydes insolator that pretty much is impossible to block and it translates to gameplay as insane chip damage
Im up to chat about this if you want plus you seem like a pretty cool dude to talk too
did they run out of budget for everything post oni transformation?
Kinda cringe how to literal second episode of the series is significantly better than this episode nearly 11 years later
That's subjective.
They rushed that fight so hard. The research blew hard, and the lack of action care to the animation showed. They had months to research everything and it was just them jacking off shoa Kahn and spitting on Akuma
love the custom transformation
13:29 Yeah the movement looks like a action figure fighting another action figure and with the only action the figure uses. And those who have used action figures will more or less get what I’m talking about.
17:53 I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by Shao Kahn saying Flawless Victory instead of Fatality. He has a F*cking Hole in his Torso and his Helmet got Nocked off, it's not Flawless. Or even a simple "Its Official, You Suck" would have worked
Kahn vs. Bison is by far one of my favorite episodes.
The only good thing about Korra vs storm is that madara vs aizen is next after Korra vs storm
I think I am a bit more forgiving of shao khan vs akuma as I work with 3d game models to create fanart and trust me mortal kombat and Espically street fighter models are a pain the arse to deal with, so man weird bones and jank you can tell they aren't made for anything but 2d fighting and the bare minimum talking, so I do sympathize with the animators on this one, also mk getting another win is just a plus for me
It's kinda short
Death Battle Oni my beloved
We now need Shang Tsung vs M. Bison
I'm just glad they didn't use crossover fights for either characters as an outlier for their scaling.
Shao Kahn scaling to Darkseid vs Akuma scaling to Asura lmao
@@ripzmad9846 or injustice Scorpion and Trigon for Shao Kahn. Either way, crossovers have waay too much nerfing and wanking to compensate for power creep.
Glad I'm not the only one who had an issue with the fight.
How does a 3D fight go from looking as amazing as BROLY VS HULK, To this?
Heck Heihachi VS Geese makes this Fight look.... well very Lackluster.
They Fought on a Volcano. But Shao and Gouki fight, in a desert..... hmm.....
Like, the fight isn't great, but I did kind of find it neat how the first 2/3rds of the fight were from the side, like MK or Street Fighter. Should've only really been that way at the beginning and not more than half the battle but eh. Just finding something to find good
That ending felt so strange when I was watching it. Especially Shao Kahn’s eyes.
Here are my opinions...
Akuma vs Shang Tsung: for a very old episode,this is one of my favorite episode
Shao Kahn vs Bison: I know who wins,but the Final Bison one suck! Bison has hit Shao Kahn many times in base form,but when he gets in final form,he was the one who gets beaten...
Akuma vs Shao Kahn: being an Akuma fan makes it clear why I don't like the episode,but it doesn't means I hate Shao Kahn,I'm also a MK fan. If Shao Kahn's heart was gone,he would've slowly died like what Liu Kang did to him,which also means Kahn couldn't have been able to keep up with his Shun Goku Satsu. Also,I don't understand why characters in SF are weaker in super form than in base form...Shao Kahn easily defeated Shin Akuma which is way stronger than ordinary Akuma
Kahn can react to lightning timers like Raiden lol he can keep up with Shun Goku Satsu hell he can counter it
I love Gianni's voice and the memes he voices over on Twitter. This fight was not a good showcase of his talent.
The analysis was kinda shit on this one. Shao Khan did not survive survive getting punched through, without the help of Quan Chi, nor did he survive against Raiden w/elder god powers. He was killed, but was later brought back from a past timeline by Kronika.
Now you are cherrypicking lies just to nerf Kahn. Shao Kahn DID survive getting impaled, Quan Chi just healed him not revive him and he did survive a blast from Raiden w/Elder Gods, he only died from the 2nd blast, which struggled to kill him
@@edogodave9386
If you are going to be 9 months late, at least take the time to point out where these "lies" are. Besides, why did Quan Chi need to heal his wounds, if it weren't fatal? Would Kahn just not walk it off otherwise? Whether it was the first, second, or fourteenth blast from the elder gods, it still killed him. The claim was that he survived. You went too far far outta your way for this one.
@@tonyx2644 About the impalement thing, Kahn still survived, Quan Chi simply healed the wounds, there is nothing that indicates he resurrected him plus it was a Finisher move, you know very well that he tanked that first blast, he died from the second blast after being beaten and you can see the blast struggling to destroy Kahn. I am staing what actually happened here
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Again. What was the point in healing a wound, that wasn't fatal? If Kahn could shrug off the death blow in MK3, he wouldn't be absent in later games.
@@tonyx2644 That wound was fatal, he was simply healed and that was in MK9 not MK3
Ok, so they used a fatality as a feat even though by that logic Shao Kahn can die to Kano using a bottle, also the same fatality kills him so there's no feat. When Liu Kang punched a hole through Shao Kahn, everyone thought that Shao Kahn died and the dude had to get healed so he could stand up again, Liu Kang's punch is much weaker than Oni's so the punch in the battle should have destroyed Shao Kahn but nope, dude just shrugged it off.
And the most egregious of them all is Shao Kahn surviving the Raging Demon, that attack goes through even the most durable of opponents to attack the soul directly (doesn't matter if Shao Kahn has more than one soul, it's still the same) and even DB states that Akuma can kill Shao yet he also shrugs it off.
They could have made Shao Kahn win and I'd be fine with it if it weren't like this but based on everything Akuma should have won.
You can be salty about Akuma's loss it still won't change he lost
@@praghoxshochkweaveblossom5627 Shao Kahn can react to Raiden who is as fast as lightning he will still react to Raging Demon you are just biased that Akuma lost you don't even know the Raging Demon has limits as Gen has reacted to it
That was for animation purposes, they would have left it out if they wanted to, plus Shao Kahn can survive having a hole in his chest of course he would shrug it off
Shao Kahn can obviously counter Raging Demon because he kept up with faster stuff
So Shao Kahn stomps Akuma
No, they used the time Shao Kahn one time tanked an Elder God blast, which later struggled to kill him, they used a fatality as an example to measure how strong the feat is. Bruh, the main reason why Shao Kahn was thought to be dead is because HE LOST and Quan Chi only healed his injuries so you can't compare it to Oni's and Oni's punch won't do jack to Shao Kahn, considering only Planetary beings and far above can destroy which Oni is nowhere near. Shao Kahn did not survibve the Rging Demon in that animation, he simply just countered the last blow and yes, Raging Demon can be countered cause Gen has done it with no problem in SFA3, Death Battle states that Akuma can kill Kahn, ONLY IF HE COMPLETES THE RAGING DEMON, which he did not at all
And nice salt, Shao Kahn still wins imo
Looking at SF6 Akuma and MK1 Shao, lmao look at how the turn tables.