How did Samsung still manage to mess up the Z Fold Special Edition?! They removed the S Pen and didn't increase the battery despite using larger displays?! Absolutely ridiculous!
I currently have an s24 but i have a fold 6 coming this week. If the experience is good I might not switch back to a regular phone. I'd probably wait till fold 8 or 9 for a new phone.
@@Lemuria-TV it is NOT releasing outside of Korea and China. So your comment is redundant. I will just wait for the s25 Ultra and enjoy my kimchi stew 😊
Yep, I think best to stick to regular Z Fold for now. At least vote for wallet since there is even a 50/50 chance next one might not have it if this sells too well.
Honestly, the Z Fold Special Edition is a major letdown. I am happy that we get a better main camera and a wider outer display, but why would they get rid of S-Pen support? Not to mention, the punch hole is back on the inner display with no improvements whatsoever. Also, the fact that we have a 10 MP telephoto on a $2,100 phone is embarrassing.
@lukebennett. Yeah, but at what cost? Samsung has fallen behind in terms of hardware. They were clearly panicking due to the competition surpassing them so they had to rush this phone out.
@AlienWavesTV Because samsung foldables tend to survive any durability tests while the rest can't. So it's understandable that samsung would still be a lil heavy and lil thick to gain no compromise contrasting the other foldables of different brands that.
The S-pen is surely a part of the Z-fold. I really don’t understand how they can ditch the S-pen & charge more money. If they can make an s-pen small enough for the S-ultras then it can surely fit the Z-fold.
It's not about the space it takes to store the spen, it's about the space it takes to add the technology into the device to allow you to use the sPen, it's why Ultra phone tend to be larger and heavier than other phones
Possibly, seems like reducing crease, bigger display and being thinner is the only point of this phone. Okay the camera is also better as well. But too many compromise for existing Fold users.
@@rlkxo to me the crease is no big deal. And I've been using folding phones since the fold3 I never pay attention to them cant even see it or feel it most of the time.
People complain about the crease, no s pen, narrow display, cameras and the price....if samsung fix all those "issues" and charge them for it then they will STILL complain about the price. It's only human nature to b*tch about stuff just because 😂😂😂
This should've been the ZF6... Why didn't they just delay it if they weren't ready? Instead they pushed the launch... if you aren't ready to release it, delay it. There's no way this wasn't planned for the ZF6.
Given the recent developments, I am hopeful that the Fold 7 will finally meet our expectations after years of underperformance and will certainly include an S Pen.
The fold will always have compromises only because it's goal is the best foldable not the best phone so it will always lack behind Samsungs other phones
The second i heard big downgrade ,i knew it had to be the spen. Disappointing that they removed it just like that. On the ultra model it shouldve stayed. But im glad this happened with the Z fold SE because its not worldwide and they can gauge our responses to make the ZFold7 better than this. With battery and spen support. It may be disappointing be itll atleast help them in a way. People have to realise this is kinda like a experiment to see what they can do , hence why its only local.
Samsung Fold series is in such a bad shape that their phones are becoming obsolete in less than 3-4 months from launch. May be they need to release 3 phones a year to keep up with the competition 😂
When competitors like honor and Vivo can fit a much larger battery and even pen support ofc they want the leading tech giant to pull off something that is on par
Looks like I'm waiting for the 7 😂. Also they should just forget the under display camera and use the hole punch, but that big of a deal on that big of a display.
I rely on mine for IT work, and the pen is essential-no pen, no deal. Removing it was a poor decision. Thickness isn't even an issue; it's a foldable, so some added bulk is expected. Sacrificing key features for such a minor change just doesn't make sense.
Honestly not enough, They arent competing on the same level as other chinese companies,They need to do a big move like come out with a tri fold device thats blows Huaweis out of the water.Thats the only way they can get back on track
I literally just bought a fold 6 two weeks ago before anyone mentioned an ultra release. I was having real concern for buyer's remorse until I watched this lol thank you. I'm happy with my 6
No spen and no periscope zoom is really a letdown. Not improving the battery size was also a letdown. I'm not excited about this phone anymore, and I'm no longer disappointed that it isn't available in the USA
Unfortunately, you can't have everything without sacrifices. Perhaps the technology is not available, which is why the other brands do not support accessories well designed similar to the S-Pen, and therefore they have achieved slim foldables.
What a slap in the face to the customers who actually purchased the Zfold6. I've been a samsung user since the s10 and they have really lost their way.
This should be my next phone if it supported spen, I think it's a must. The only thing I dont want in their folding phones before are the tall screen when unfolded.
I'll continue to enjoy my S24 Ultra for probably around 4 years. My next phone in 2029 or 2030 (crazy to think) will likely be fold. By then I expect wonderfully refined products on the market since a decade of folding phones will have been released.
The problem with the folds is that you can't really enjoy them for that long. I had a crack down the crease on my fold 3 a few months after the 1yr warranty expired. I then had issues with the outer screen and half the inner screen of the fold 4 not responding to touch inputs, but I was lucky and got a software update around that time that fixed it. I made sure to get samsung care on my fold 5, and will have to upgrade when the warranty expires next summer. This is not a phone you want out of warranty
This was most likely a prototype for z fold 6 but was shelved for next year. Due to the fierce competition, they decided to release it as a special edition
I predict the sales will be disastrous because of the lack of S-pen. Honestly, I always wanted to switch to iphone, but the S-pen was always the feature that kept me in the note/S family every single time. Even now, I wanted an Iphone 16 pro max, but I want the S-pen with the AI improvements and the ease of signing documents, so I'll wait for the S25 Ultra.
Couldn't really care any less about the S Pen. The true downgrade in my eyes is the fact that they have REEUCED the battery capacity despite the increase in display sizes. Battery life was already subpar on their regular fold. Now SE is going to consume more energy and have an even smaller battery.
Not including the Spen is rediculous. The fact that they know these pens would damage the screen beforehand really raises doubts about the screen quality.
COME ON SAMSUNG!, its a significantly bigger phone to the OG fold 6 yet no battery size increase! Fold 7 needs to have all of Fold6 SE + bring S-pen back and battery to 5000
I feel like this was Samsung's attempt to see if the fold isn't really selling due to the form factor. I really want to see if anyone is going to sell a tri fold in America. Or did China just prove that we are old and outdated.
Am curious but why haven't foldable displays gone up to 4k 120hz ?? Like why are phones stuck at 1080p are 1440p. I think its time for the display resolutions to go up !!
No S pen support ? That's what makes Samsung great. I personally use the spen alot. This is a downgrade. If one has fold 5 or 4, there's no need to upgrade
S-pen and periscope zoom (ideally the old 10X optical for a total zoom of X200) are a must for me. Also, better durability. Yes, it will be heavier, but that's expected. You don't buy a tank and then complain it's too heavy 😅 You don't need a front facing camera on the folded display, you'd normally video call with the phone folded. With how slow the fold is evolving, maybe I'll get the Z-Fold 20 Ultra, if they bring the S-pen back 😂
It's disgusting that they finally make a device that the whole world has been waiting for them to do at least 2 generations ago when the Z Fold 4.came out only for the best device to only be coming out in China and Korea. Does not make sense. I think Samsung have gone mad. I would definitely purchase this device as this is what I was waiting for. Hence why I never purchased the Z Fold 6 and opted for the S24 Ultra.
If the phone had a much larger battery and the S Pen, I would have been willing to spend $2,890 CAD on it. However, it looks like I'll wait for the regular Z Fold 6 to drop in price before upgrading from my S21 Ultra and purchasing it next year. I am highly disappointed with Samsung.
The phone is an encouraging step forward, but unfortunately it is not enough. The size is large, the battery is small, and the screen does not support S pen.
They haven't figured out how to store the pen and unless you have a case for it, users won't miss s pen support. They need to make the pen usable on both screens and store it internally for it to make sense.. I would rather it be a little thicker and keep the bigger screen size
I wouldn't judge it too hard and take it as an experiment as it is launching at certain regions, but the SE is a bit of a letdown with no battery upgrades and Spen support.
All the feedback from this would make its way to the Z Fold 7 and its Ultra brethren meanwhile, would there be a Tab S10 special edition with Snapdragon X Elite or 8 gen 3?😂
Samsung product proposition team need to know what they're doing 😅 S Pen support is the unique feature of their product lineup, how could they remove it from the latest fold device yet they still couldn't compete with their competitors in terms of the battery capacity, charging speed, better camera hardware and slimmer profile? This fold 6 special edition just a piece of garbage that loses out in every single aspects... they could've been retaining the thickness of the phone and put in larger battery/ put in built-in S pen, instead of blindly reducing the thickness of the phone
This is exactly what the fold 6 should have been. Also, the fact they can't even release it globally is straight awful for the market. We really need some of the Chinese brands to find their way to the United States. Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting to the point where I would prefer to switch back to apple if they make a foldable like this.
Good call to ditch S Pen support to shave some of the phone thickness. Unless it's silo'ed in the phone, I don't want to have to carry around an extra item that I know I will lose.
With this Fold SE, Samsung has just caught up in terms of the form factor, but in the process, didn't increase the size of its battery 🔋, didn't change the ultra-wide-angle and zoom sensors, uses an outdated processor, but the worst lost compatibility with the pen 🖊️, all for the modest sum of $2000, and the main target 🎯 of this thing is supposed to be the Chinese market 😅🤣🙄, in fact, Samsung didn't understand anything and doesn't give a damn about itself 🤦🏽♂️ Sit down for 2 seconds, and tell me honestly, how this $2000 Fold SE can be a good deal on the Chinese market which has Vivo X Fold 3 Pro, Oppo Find N3, Honor Magic V3... for $1000-$1500 maximum 🤷🏽♂️ Perhaps, it's good for Samsung, but before the hour is not the time, but above all, after the hour, it's not the time. Samsung's so-called apology to its customers was just smoke and mirrors 🤧 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️
The thing is getting rid of the S pen makes sense because the phone is super slim but they should have at least upgraded the battery from 4400 to 4600/4700 mah cause the display got more bigger in size and it's ganna consume more battery life
makes no sense... They force spen on S series but dont get you an option on this? I suppose it isn't global so it does not really matter. But come on 90+ % of users of S22-24 do not use the spen on weekly basis. And when they do it's for stuff they can do without it as well. Like pdfs and remote taking of photos. GIving us a bigger camera and or battery instead of the spen on S series makes A LOT more sense than not including it on a fold where people may actually buy it for the Spen support.
For Fold 7 next yr, I expect building on SE and put improved, 5,000mah battery, gorilla victus antiglare like S24U and UDC ...UDC may be too much to ask so soon. Either way, i'm trading in my fold 6 for fold 7 or ultra
When this phone makes it to the United States I will be buying it, I've been waiting for them to make that outer screen bigger, I guess me waiting paid off
I like Samsung, but these Shenanigans need to STOP... No Spen support on a Phablet! REALLY. Idc about the punch hole camera, they can remove it if they want. Give us a damn phone with internal Spen. They are playing and everyone else is catching up. That's how companies are losing customers. Look at HTC, SONY, KODAK. All thought they were invincible
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How did Samsung still manage to mess up the Z Fold Special Edition?! They removed the S Pen and didn't increase the battery despite using larger displays?! Absolutely ridiculous!
Does any other foldable have a pen inside it?
@@omarabdul2864 Z Fold Special Edition doesn't even support the S Pen *AT ALL*.
@@davidugono3727 that's how they got it so thin
They scare to increase battery capacity because it will explode 😂
So not even their s pen pro, which uses Bluetooth, will work?
No Spen support on the 'ultra' model is a big letdown. Spen support is more important even if it results in the device being slightly thicker
There's no ultra. It's Special Edition
@@EscaLadeBoy27 I know. That's why I put it in quotes
Who uses this s pen? Never used it except to take a photo sometimes
90% of people don't even use the s pen. Anyway, I could care less about the s pen. I just wanted a bigger outer screen and better cameras
Just curuous, why when taking a picture? Doesnt that just require like, one tap..? 😂@FanOFGodN11
No S-Pen support, No battery improvement, no export to Western markets = no buy 🙅♂️… guess I’ll have to hold my breath for the S25 Ultra.
I currently have an s24 but i have a fold 6 coming this week. If the experience is good I might not switch back to a regular phone. I'd probably wait till fold 8 or 9 for a new phone.
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@@Lemuria-TV it is NOT releasing outside of Korea and China. So your comment is redundant. I will just wait for the s25 Ultra and enjoy my kimchi stew 😊
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@@Lemuria-TVyou have a good point lol
Now I feel better about it, no Spen support means 0 interest from me, I'm fine with my Fold 6
Same.
Absolutely
Yep, I think best to stick to regular Z Fold for now. At least vote for wallet since there is even a 50/50 chance next one might not have it if this sells too well.
I think was not meant for those already having 6 haha which is a good thing
Honestly, the Z Fold Special Edition is a major letdown. I am happy that we get a better main camera and a wider outer display, but why would they get rid of S-Pen support? Not to mention, the punch hole is back on the inner display with no improvements whatsoever. Also, the fact that we have a 10 MP telephoto on a $2,100 phone is embarrassing.
To make it a thinner phone
@lukebennett. Yeah, but at what cost? Samsung has fallen behind in terms of hardware. They were clearly panicking due to the competition surpassing them so they had to rush this phone out.
@@lukebennett. Not even that thin
@AlienWavesTV Because samsung foldables tend to survive any durability tests while the rest can't. So it's understandable that samsung would still be a lil heavy and lil thick to gain no compromise contrasting the other foldables of different brands that.
Z fold 6 se is 1500-1700 bucks from what I've seen now
Cant wait for Fold 7 ultra
Id rather this lunch globally
@@stingaarshark6159 Global lunch sounds tasty
Not gone happen without Spen support. Fold 7 Plus maybe 🤷🏾♂️. Next year
@@stingaarshark6159What comes with the global lunch? I bet it tastes good
Sheep
The fact that honors regular model is ~half the price and STILL beats Samsung Special Edition model is WILD.
Why do you think that is? Keep on buying those cheap Chinese phones and see what happens in the near future.
@@jaek8029 they spike the price later?
@@jaek8029looking at Reddit so far the z folds have more durability issues than honor or Vivo foldables
The S-pen is surely a part of the Z-fold. I really don’t understand how they can ditch the S-pen & charge more money.
If they can make an s-pen small enough for the S-ultras then it can surely fit the Z-fold.
the fold inner space is smaller than the ultra because most off it is taking by the hinge.
I actually don't care about a s pen slot, I'd rather have that space be used for a bigger battery
It's not about the space it takes to store the spen, it's about the space it takes to add the technology into the device to allow you to use the sPen, it's why Ultra phone tend to be larger and heavier than other phones
This is like a trial run for the Z Fold 7
That's what I was thinking as well
Possibly, seems like reducing crease, bigger display and being thinner is the only point of this phone. Okay the camera is also better as well. But too many compromise for existing Fold users.
@@kornkernel2232 Samsung is catching up to the Chinese OEMs.
I agree Samsung is all over the place right now. I think Google is making them nervous.
Not Google but Honor
I don't know why people complain about the crease so much, I mean it's folding glass! You should be amazed that's even possible.
because chinese phones have been folding creaseless for years now and samsung has no answer.
@@rlkxo to me the crease is no big deal. And I've been using folding phones since the fold3 I never pay attention to them cant even see it or feel it most of the time.
@@rlkxo *almost* creaseless
@@rlkxodon't lie
People complain about the crease, no s pen, narrow display, cameras and the price....if samsung fix all those "issues" and charge them for it then they will STILL complain about the price. It's only human nature to b*tch about stuff just because 😂😂😂
This should've been the ZF6... Why didn't they just delay it if they weren't ready? Instead they pushed the launch... if you aren't ready to release it, delay it. There's no way this wasn't planned for the ZF6.
Samsung pulled an Apple.
I will wait for Fold 8 to house spen in the body rather than carry as separate accessory😂
Hell yeah😅😅
That's the main reason I'm still on my Note 20 Ultra. Lol
Exactly.. that and negligible battery life means I am still on my Fold 3.. is it so hard to improve these two main things, Samsung???
Given the recent developments, I am hopeful that the Fold 7 will finally meet our expectations after years of underperformance and will certainly include an S Pen.
How do you remove the Spen feature when this was one of the main selling point of the declining sales of Fold 6....
I thought with the ultra branding they are adding s pen inside the phone
samsung always screwing up. no s pen support?? I'm hoping they step it up with the z fold 7.
Seriously considering a chinese brand
This is probably going to be the global Z Fold 7
The fold will always have compromises only because it's goal is the best foldable not the best phone so it will always lack behind Samsungs other phones
NO S-PEN SUPPORT?!?!? I won't buy that!!
No S pen doesn't make sense...
The second i heard big downgrade ,i knew it had to be the spen.
Disappointing that they removed it just like that. On the ultra model it shouldve stayed.
But im glad this happened with the Z fold SE because its not worldwide and they can gauge our responses to make the ZFold7 better than this. With battery and spen support.
It may be disappointing be itll atleast help them in a way. People have to realise this is kinda like a experiment to see what they can do , hence why its only local.
So I have just bought the S Pen case today to celebrate the fact we can still use it :-)
3:24 NOT DISAPPPOINTING IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A DEDICATED PEN SLOT ON THE PHONE ITSELF!
Battery still sucks! Even sucks more 😡
Samsung Fold series is in such a bad shape that their phones are becoming obsolete in less than 3-4 months from launch. May be they need to release 3 phones a year to keep up with the competition 😂
These casuals want every single feature in a phone without any compromises. Good thing Samsung doesn't listen to these people online.
When competitors like honor and Vivo can fit a much larger battery and even pen support ofc they want the leading tech giant to pull off something that is on par
man i want this phone so bad, couldn't care less about the s pen
Same I threw that damn thing in the trash day one.
I don't know why they're overthinking it just give us two S24 ultras. We don't care about thickness
Looks like I'm waiting for the 7 😂. Also they should just forget the under display camera and use the hole punch, but that big of a deal on that big of a display.
No Spen support, thats dumb
My hopes are high to see this fold as the fold 7
I rely on mine for IT work, and the pen is essential-no pen, no deal. Removing it was a poor decision. Thickness isn't even an issue; it's a foldable, so some added bulk is expected. Sacrificing key features for such a minor change just doesn't make sense.
This phone that we want, and yet we can't buy it ....should I buy honor magic v3 or I wait?
No s pen? No deal👎
Disgraceful cutting s pen support. This is NOT a special edition. Samsung has become a complete joke.
WELL, FOLKS LOVE IT OR HATE IT. You're looking at the Z Fold7!!!
When are we getting a rollable?
Honestly not enough, They arent competing on the same level as other chinese companies,They need to do a big move like come out with a tri fold device thats blows Huaweis out of the water.Thats the only way they can get back on track
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I literally just bought a fold 6 two weeks ago before anyone mentioned an ultra release. I was having real concern for buyer's remorse until I watched this lol thank you. I'm happy with my 6
No spen and no periscope zoom is really a letdown. Not improving the battery size was also a letdown. I'm not excited about this phone anymore, and I'm no longer disappointed that it isn't available in the USA
Id rather have the punch hole then that crappy under display camera
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Samsung needs some real US competition..
They should have put the smart pen 🖋 at the back of the phone with a small magnet holding it📱 not difficult to do
Unfortunately, you can't have everything without sacrifices. Perhaps the technology is not available, which is why the other brands do not support accessories well designed similar to the S-Pen, and therefore they have achieved slim foldables.
Honor v3 has pen support tho
What a slap in the face to the customers who actually purchased the Zfold6. I've been a samsung user since the s10 and they have really lost their way.
This should be my next phone if it supported spen, I think it's a must. The only thing I dont want in their folding phones before are the tall screen when unfolded.
Honor Magic V2/V3 is really kicking Foldable market ass.
I'll continue to enjoy my S24 Ultra for probably around 4 years. My next phone in 2029 or 2030 (crazy to think) will likely be fold. By then I expect wonderfully refined products on the market since a decade of folding phones will have been released.
The problem with the folds is that you can't really enjoy them for that long. I had a crack down the crease on my fold 3 a few months after the 1yr warranty expired. I then had issues with the outer screen and half the inner screen of the fold 4 not responding to touch inputs, but I was lucky and got a software update around that time that fixed it. I made sure to get samsung care on my fold 5, and will have to upgrade when the warranty expires next summer.
This is not a phone you want out of warranty
Will it be released in the U.S???
This was most likely a prototype for z fold 6 but was shelved for next year. Due to the fierce competition, they decided to release it as a special edition
I hope sales tank lmao. How much clearer can we be that we want the bloody S Pen and we want it IN the bloody phone.
Exactly... Samsung keeps focusing on how thin the phone is when a Spen slot, it's one of the major request from fans
It's not going to fit in the phone
@@snowyfall753agreed. Even if it did having a gaping hole in such a thin frame is a durability issue
I predict the sales will be disastrous because of the lack of S-pen. Honestly, I always wanted to switch to iphone, but the S-pen was always the feature that kept me in the note/S family every single time. Even now, I wanted an Iphone 16 pro max, but I want the S-pen with the AI improvements and the ease of signing documents, so I'll wait for the S25 Ultra.
I’ll wait to the z fold 7
Couldn't really care any less about the S Pen. The true downgrade in my eyes is the fact that they have REEUCED the battery capacity despite the increase in display sizes. Battery life was already subpar on their regular fold. Now SE is going to consume more energy and have an even smaller battery.
Why couldn't Samsung have released the Fold 4 Ultra in America? Hopefully, it does well, and we see it in the States next year.
Not including the Spen is rediculous. The fact that they know these pens would damage the screen beforehand really raises doubts about the screen quality.
Never used a S-pen on my any Fold phone. It's actually like an add on.
What about the ones that just upgraded their phones with 6. I had no idea that 6 special edition will be announced :(
no a pen support on a 8" display is the biggest dummy shit Samsung has ever done! I thought with "ultra z fold" the s pen will be integrated
COME ON SAMSUNG!, its a significantly bigger phone to the OG fold 6 yet no battery size increase! Fold 7 needs to have all of Fold6 SE + bring S-pen back and battery to 5000
I feel like this was Samsung's attempt to see if the fold isn't really selling due to the form factor. I really want to see if anyone is going to sell a tri fold in America. Or did China just prove that we are old and outdated.
No built in S pen (or any spen at all) plus punch hole camera being back make this a hell no to me. Still gonna hold on to my Note.
I've had a Z Fold 2, 4 and now 6. I barely ever use the S Pen, and would rather have a much better camera/bigger screen. So I get why they did this.
Am curious but why haven't foldable displays gone up to 4k 120hz ?? Like why are phones stuck at 1080p are 1440p. I think its time for the display resolutions to go up !!
No S pen support ? That's what makes Samsung great. I personally use the spen alot. This is a downgrade. If one has fold 5 or 4, there's no need to upgrade
S-pen and periscope zoom (ideally the old 10X optical for a total zoom of X200) are a must for me. Also, better durability. Yes, it will be heavier, but that's expected. You don't buy a tank and then complain it's too heavy 😅
You don't need a front facing camera on the folded display, you'd normally video call with the phone folded.
With how slow the fold is evolving, maybe I'll get the Z-Fold 20 Ultra, if they bring the S-pen back 😂
Keep it large but include a bigger battery, especially if the screens are larger which will draw more power.
Can’t wait to see how Z Fold 10Ultra pro max xl looks like 👍
It's disgusting that they finally make a device that the whole world has been waiting for them to do at least 2 generations ago when the Z Fold 4.came out only for the best device to only be coming out in China and Korea. Does not make sense. I think Samsung have gone mad. I would definitely purchase this device as this is what I was waiting for. Hence why I never purchased the Z Fold 6 and opted for the S24 Ultra.
S pen support is a huge letdown why doesnt have S pen support when thats the only thing we wanted with a bigger screen. Phones a letdown
If the phone had a much larger battery and the S Pen, I would have been willing to spend $2,890 CAD on it. However, it looks like I'll wait for the regular Z Fold 6 to drop in price before upgrading from my S21 Ultra and purchasing it next year. I am highly disappointed with Samsung.
The phone is an encouraging step forward, but unfortunately it is not enough. The size is large, the battery is small, and the screen does not support S pen.
They haven't figured out how to store the pen and unless you have a case for it, users won't miss s pen support. They need to make the pen usable on both screens and store it internally for it to make sense.. I would rather it be a little thicker and keep the bigger screen size
I wouldn't judge it too hard and take it as an experiment as it is launching at certain regions, but the SE is a bit of a letdown with no battery upgrades and Spen support.
All the feedback from this would make its way to the Z Fold 7 and its Ultra brethren meanwhile, would there be a Tab S10 special edition with Snapdragon X Elite or 8 gen 3?😂
Samsung product proposition team need to know what they're doing 😅 S Pen support is the unique feature of their product lineup, how could they remove it from the latest fold device yet they still couldn't compete with their competitors in terms of the battery capacity, charging speed, better camera hardware and slimmer profile?
This fold 6 special edition just a piece of garbage that loses out in every single aspects... they could've been retaining the thickness of the phone and put in larger battery/ put in built-in S pen, instead of blindly reducing the thickness of the phone
This is exactly what the fold 6 should have been. Also, the fact they can't even release it globally is straight awful for the market. We really need some of the Chinese brands to find their way to the United States. Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting to the point where I would prefer to switch back to apple if they make a foldable like this.
Good call to ditch S Pen support to shave some of the phone thickness. Unless it's silo'ed in the phone, I don't want to have to carry around an extra item that I know I will lose.
That module camera match with the S25 Ultra 🤔🤔🤔
Bigger surface area, bigger vapour chamber.I think it will show a good battery backup than regular fold 6
With this Fold SE, Samsung has just caught up in terms of the form factor, but in the process, didn't increase the size of its battery 🔋, didn't change the ultra-wide-angle and zoom sensors, uses an outdated processor, but the worst lost compatibility with the pen 🖊️, all for the modest sum of $2000, and the main target 🎯 of this thing is supposed to be the Chinese market 😅🤣🙄, in fact, Samsung didn't understand anything and doesn't give a damn about itself 🤦🏽♂️
Sit down for 2 seconds, and tell me honestly, how this $2000 Fold SE can be a good deal on the Chinese market which has Vivo X Fold 3 Pro, Oppo Find N3, Honor Magic V3... for $1000-$1500 maximum 🤷🏽♂️
Perhaps, it's good for Samsung, but before the hour is not the time, but above all, after the hour, it's not the time.
Samsung's so-called apology to its customers was just smoke and mirrors 🤧
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The thing is getting rid of the S pen makes sense because the phone is super slim but they should have at least upgraded the battery from 4400 to 4600/4700 mah cause the display got more bigger in size and it's ganna consume more battery life
I love samsung but if they would make it where there was a slot for the s pen, that would be a killer device
this is a waste off money to buy.. not upgrade.. just waste
makes no sense... They force spen on S series but dont get you an option on this? I suppose it isn't global so it does not really matter. But come on 90+ % of users of S22-24 do not use the spen on weekly basis. And when they do it's for stuff they can do without it as well. Like pdfs and remote taking of photos.
GIving us a bigger camera and or battery instead of the spen on S series makes A LOT more sense than not including it on a fold where people may actually buy it for the Spen support.
Samsung seems like they dont want to dominate the Foldable market in the future ...
Why do samsung continue to screw us around?? Ultra should have the best specs all around, no compromise!!!!
We just want a good camera and faster charging.
No S-Pen? I'll wait.
For Fold 7 next yr, I expect building on SE and put improved, 5,000mah battery, gorilla victus antiglare like S24U and UDC ...UDC may be too much to ask so soon. Either way, i'm trading in my fold 6 for fold 7 or ultra
When this phone makes it to the United States I will be buying it, I've been waiting for them to make that outer screen bigger, I guess me waiting paid off
Personal I don't care about the S-Pen, but the battery size is a huge letdown.
Battery size and charge time are the weak points, ir Blaster is missing.
They need to fix that
I like Samsung, but these Shenanigans need to STOP... No Spen support on a Phablet! REALLY. Idc about the punch hole camera, they can remove it if they want. Give us a damn phone with internal Spen. They are playing and everyone else is catching up. That's how companies are losing customers. Look at HTC, SONY, KODAK. All thought they were invincible
I loved it up until he said no s pen support. That sucks!!!
If I knew there was a Ultra on the way I wouldn't preorder this one💀
Spen is not useful on the fold 6 anyway..unless it comes with a built in slot