StarCraft 1: If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It. - BishOp vs Fengzi Part 6 | China vs Korea

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  • BishOp (Terran) vs Fengzi (Zerg) - 9 game series - Part 6
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  • @stevejohncockram
    @stevejohncockram ปีที่แล้ว +74

    This series really shows the difference between elite korean pro level mutalisk control, and the level just below that. So many tiny mistakes with mutalisks that Bishop punished, the sort of mistakes you just don't see ASL regulars making. Really helped me understand just how good the top of the top are.

    • @alexivanyuk4955
      @alexivanyuk4955 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's also could have happened due to a ping issueses. Bishop lost first encounter since he missed two shots in a row with his wraith stacks and they ended up taking damage for nothing.

    • @goomshill
      @goomshill ปีที่แล้ว

      when he had the wraiths on the run and didn't moving shot to follow them that's a critical moment where 5 wraiths got away for free. Small moments with huge consequences

    • @Ziegfried82
      @Ziegfried82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly the difference in micro is so great Fengzi may as well have just dived in with the mutas every time.

    • @wesgrubbs8437
      @wesgrubbs8437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jeez... it's pretty obvious these guys are in two separate tiers. Ping has nothing to do with it. Bishop is a class above. If they play 8 more games then Bishop wins AT LEAST 7.

    • @푸른마
      @푸른마 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is not elite. He is sub pro gamer. And Now Korean starcraft gamer skill is under than 10years ago.

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Fengzi is like: “He can’t keep getting away with this!!!”

  • @ThisNameIsBanned
    @ThisNameIsBanned ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The age of Terrans with Mutalisk Micro.

    • @fatemakeus
      @fatemakeus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wraiths has longer range but muta has stonger def because muta is small units...

    • @Rethaxian
      @Rethaxian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wraiths aren't bad. It's just that they're super hard to pull off

    • @anonvideo738
      @anonvideo738 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fatemakeus mutas can also get created en masse as soon as the spire is done if you bank larva, while wraiths have to be built one by one.

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rethaxianthat, and wraiths are really expensive. The price IIRC is the same as a siege tank. It’s probably why you never see anyone use wraiths for that alone.

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fatemakeuswouldn’t that still equal 10 damage at the base level though?
      10x2
      5x2
      10 total
      Unless my math is wrong

  • @Dashmast3r
    @Dashmast3r ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow. I haven't watched any of Leta's games recently, but this wraith control looks the best I've ever seen.

    • @Picaroon9
      @Picaroon9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are a few games from Light recently where his wraith micro makes Leta's look like nothing special. I am not sure if it due to the better turn rate in remastered or if he just has stupidly good wraith micro.

    • @FriedChckn13
      @FriedChckn13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the difference between the Korean scene and the rest of the world… it is no joke.
      Brood War was treated like an American major sport. Even the best SC2 players by comparison do not compare to the type and degree of training these OG professional e-sports athletes went through.

    • @helloken
      @helloken ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it looks really good. I also recall JyJ having some good control. Top pros are just amazing at this game...

  • @H3Vtux
    @H3Vtux ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching zerg players have to deal with wraiths is so cathartic I can't put it into words.

  • @abstractdaddy1384
    @abstractdaddy1384 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Bishop's wraith play is crazy.

    • @Ziegfried82
      @Ziegfried82 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Any zerg player going mutas against him is in trouble, his wraith control is that good.

  • @sYnchr0_
    @sYnchr0_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've seen Light utilize wraiths against Protoss on 76, but never have I seen a Terran crush a Zerg like this with Wraith micro. As much as I want to say Tesagi, I think it's quite evident that Bishop is leaps and bounds ahead here. But I want to believe it's going to catch on because I want to see more of these air battles!

    • @Junglej0hn
      @Junglej0hn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's honestly hard to tell how good he is compared to the other top terrans just by these games I think.. These games are like good muta micro vs completely disgusting wraith micro. And even if the wraith game looked not close at all bishop would have lost almost all his wraiths to most ASL zergs 2 times during that game I believe.

  • @coolblade23
    @coolblade23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at around 9:46 Artosis turns silent to what is basically the-nut-cracker-opera made flesh on the theater that is SC1

  • @briancorbett3600
    @briancorbett3600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These games have genuinely been fantastic and Fengzi came really close in that ultra game. Fun to watch!

  • @PJJ196
    @PJJ196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg this wraith counter against the muta has been so hot recently and I’m in love with it.. seeing the terran fight in the sky, instead of chasing mutas with marines and medics has been refreshing

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯

  • @oggg.5152
    @oggg.5152 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not even a SC player but man, I love these casts :) :)

  • @Kionu-
    @Kionu- ปีที่แล้ว

    I would be so demoralized after getting so thoroughly out-micro'd by wraiths multiple times this series, geeze. And Fengzi has really amazing play, it's just BishOp is a whole tier above. Really a delight to watch these games play out and I hope to see a lot more of both of these guys.

  • @Fudgeyum2122
    @Fudgeyum2122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have read this in the comments below, but a good perspective is that this is Terrans with muta micro. Haha

  • @Wynnyrs
    @Wynnyrs ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though this series is clearly one-sided, I've been enjoying every game. The skills that Bishop has been displaying are ludicrous. Please, Artosis, more Korean pro-level StarCraft!

  • @Larsgman
    @Larsgman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing wraiths coming out on top and seeing those overlords drop like the flies that they are puts a huge smile on my face

  • @cirno66
    @cirno66 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing I've learned from these longer sets is that if you get out-controlled both on the map and in smaller engagements you simply can't win. Even winning in the build order lottery can't save you.

  • @skeptic9991
    @skeptic9991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't been this impressed by Wraith micro since watching Light doing it.

  • @Moshm4n
    @Moshm4n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro's one-shotting Overlords over here lmao

  • @steveblock3882
    @steveblock3882 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that wraith micro is soooo enjoyable to watch,

  • @curtisbrockman2682
    @curtisbrockman2682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His wraith control is Top Gun tier.

  • @plumness
    @plumness ปีที่แล้ว

    the last few wraith videos have got me hyped on the barracks, factory, 2 starport start

  • @igronus
    @igronus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that sky attack with marines support is something else

  • @GASHPAN
    @GASHPAN ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, that first game. I don't think I've seen overlords being one-shotted like that by wraiths. Wow the damage, GG

  • @Andrei3111
    @Andrei3111 ปีที่แล้ว

    i recognized bishop suveranity from first game , and said in the first comment, this guy is the best terrar i ever seen, and i wasnt wrong bro

  • @oleksii7899
    @oleksii7899 ปีที่แล้ว

    great series, thanks. i really liked recent dewalt casts, can we have more of his plays covered? a very talented player that's exciting to watch

  • @MrTheQuestioner
    @MrTheQuestioner ปีที่แล้ว

    Never stop uploading these great games

  • @usmh
    @usmh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Randomly about SC: God I long to see Flash play random in ASL again.

    • @Mathos93
      @Mathos93 ปีที่แล้ว

      fuck yeah!

    • @usmh
      @usmh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mathos93 I swear his reaver micro is top notch.

  • @Winnetou17
    @Winnetou17 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wraiths OP ? No, Bish OP!

  • @somecooney5304
    @somecooney5304 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now zerg will have to put up spores, the way that terran used to have to put up turrets, haha! Actually surprised it took so long.
    Conor McGregor would call the foreigner scene, the 'Stuck in the mud' division, hahaha!

  • @tacoanator2936
    @tacoanator2936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That wraith game made me really wonder if there is s ping gap here.

  • @dpavlic1
    @dpavlic1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I havent seen the replay yet but I guess Fengzi lost to mass wraiths.
    Problem is that you cant do mutas against a wraith player with excellent micro. You need to make hydras and queen+ensnare. JD presented that strat in a game recently.
    You can use the queens later for broodlings vs tanks.
    Hydras destroy vultures and wraiths so... no mutas needed.

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the problem here is perhaps he was already going all in with the mutas and so was the terran player with the wraiths.

  • @Sadboi.burningsoul
    @Sadboi.burningsoul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love to see terran REPAIR his units.

  • @ParkerH22
    @ParkerH22 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Wraith micro was Godlike. Holy Shit

  • @SwatyChopsuey
    @SwatyChopsuey ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Artosis Cast another great day :)

  • @rjrjrjriiebeebbe
    @rjrjrjriiebeebbe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why he didnt go hydras

  • @blacklight4720
    @blacklight4720 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm having wraithgasm.
    What if Fengi has lags? Something about his mutas micro does not line up for me. He misses many shots on wraiths, getting to close to Marines. Maybe he is tilted, but maybe he's lagging.

    • @boongusliga
      @boongusliga ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he lags so does Bishop StarCraft is P2P connection

    • @blacklight4720
      @blacklight4720 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boongusliga I thought its a server connection. I recall there was a game some time ago. Between Chinese and Korean players. Artosis said that the Chinese had bad latency but not the Korean player.

  • @good2247
    @good2247 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've never seen wraiths used like this. This dude is insane.

  • @F10F11hm
    @F10F11hm ปีที่แล้ว

    Jaw dropping Wraith micro. What a game.

  • @Swiggityswagger
    @Swiggityswagger ปีที่แล้ว

    What server was this game on? Looked like it was on Korean server as the muta micro just wasn't there, meanwhile the Wraiths didn't miss any shots.

  • @alexbarac
    @alexbarac ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering about Ensnare vs wraiths. Fengzi had enough time to build and research the spell and buy some queens. One ensnare and all the wraiths are dead. Bonus point, ensnare makes cloaked units visible as well.

  • @arminhaddadzadeh3396
    @arminhaddadzadeh3396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can't the zerg use ensnare on those wraiths?

  • @gordontubbs
    @gordontubbs ปีที่แล้ว

    I think 2Port or the 111 Build is the right way to advance the TvZ metagame right now. Getting air units out quickly is just the way to go.

  • @PULAG
    @PULAG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just talked to Ben Dreken over at ScBw Blizz Official Team HQ, they will in fact be patching and Mutalisk is getting additional 35 extra starting HP

  • @MrTBSC
    @MrTBSC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'd say the wraith is lucky that it even has some viability to it .... meanwhile a certain protoss equivalent flyer cries somewhere in a distant corner ... along with a ghost ...

  • @VolkannGul
    @VolkannGul ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if this Wraith play can do the same againts players like Soma,Queen or Soulkey.

  • @hi-rp4sf
    @hi-rp4sf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why zerg player didn't made ensnare on wraiths?

  • @summonerds9706
    @summonerds9706 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, i loved those games, but why did you skip the first few minutes of game 8 in the series? Please just show the entire game!

  • @iMDope91
    @iMDope91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bishop is so good man. His micro is amazing to watch. I have to comment after just game 7..
    Arty, as Fengzi, would hydras only be viable vs his wraiths?

  • @krysthanh8932
    @krysthanh8932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bishop- best Wraith

  • @stevenbell5224
    @stevenbell5224 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder if wraiths are just OP with higher tick rate of the game now vs how it used to be?

  • @bentybursky858
    @bentybursky858 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus christ, wraiths actually over here being OP. I legit feel bad for Zerg now

  • @meskalin64
    @meskalin64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boxer marines and BishOp wraiths!

  • @windwindy5356
    @windwindy5356 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, quite a few wraith ball replay these days. Ppl were sleeping on wraith

  • @Мойевропейскийжидобандеровский

    Link to download replay?

  • @Stemnin
    @Stemnin ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus Christ, that's Jason Wraith!

  • @chaos800
    @chaos800 ปีที่แล้ว

    theyre macro is pretty similar but bishop just seems to be better at micro by a long shot in every situation

  • @justingagnier2871
    @justingagnier2871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So good!!

  • @garrettwilson4754
    @garrettwilson4754 ปีที่แล้ว

    That wraith micro tho

  • @heyjude9537
    @heyjude9537 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never seen wraiths be used like that

  • @stevejohncockram
    @stevejohncockram ปีที่แล้ว

    Fengzi always goes hatch on 12 instead of the new school hatch on 11.

  • @arturkaczan1776
    @arturkaczan1776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bishop is insane

  • @masteredgigachad6537
    @masteredgigachad6537 ปีที่แล้ว

    ayyeee first. thx for the daily uploads. Artoshisuuu. Hahahahaha

  • @Virtua..
    @Virtua.. ปีที่แล้ว

    finally something strong for the weakest race

  • @DexterMorris88
    @DexterMorris88 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is painful. Should’ve let them quit at 5-0

  • @no1xtz765
    @no1xtz765 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No respect for the older generation of SC players 😂

    • @Kuubudaraa
      @Kuubudaraa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For real people shitting on Fengzi when this dude out here literally fighting god and doing his best

  • @Kurchack
    @Kurchack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not close not fun.

  • @Daemurry
    @Daemurry ปีที่แล้ว

    1 formidable Wraith

  • @LORFCASTER
    @LORFCASTER 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GGs

  • @jacobsvensson8193
    @jacobsvensson8193 ปีที่แล้ว

    these clean sweep bo9's really isn't doing it for me

  • @shmyeah
    @shmyeah ปีที่แล้ว

    wow

  • @Freesqare
    @Freesqare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Broke: Mass Corsair
    Woke: Mass Wraith
    We Protoss now boys.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Soyjak Corsair standing in place shining his flashlight
      vs
      Sigma Wraith shooting rockets while diving in and out endlessly

  • @christianveilleux6378
    @christianveilleux6378 ปีที่แล้ว

    D22-soso

  • @TheHPGUplink
    @TheHPGUplink ปีที่แล้ว

    Fengzi = braindead

  • @evanrosz
    @evanrosz ปีที่แล้ว

    2

  • @iShadowOfDeath
    @iShadowOfDeath ปีที่แล้ว

    Muta micro sucks

  • @JoeLoyd
    @JoeLoyd ปีที่แล้ว

    noob zerg

  • @RyanJ14115
    @RyanJ14115 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro the wraith micro no way no F'ing way wtf was that... cheat code enabled.

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mutas getting rekt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀