What can Indonesia expect from its new president?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- Indonesia's potential new president has expressed support for an authoritative approach. Yet, there's debate over whether this marks a departure from the past image of Prabowo Subianto. Despite previous allegations of significant human rights violations, his current portrayal as an amiable figure in social media campaigns seems to resonate with voters. Nevertheless, should concerns about his past be a factor?
Guests:
Shoeb Kagda
Director of Overseas Center of Singapore Management University in Jakarta
Andreas Harsono
Author of 'Race, Islam and Power: Ethnic and Religious Violence in Post-Suharto Indonesia'
Tobias Basuki
Political Analyst
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People of indonesia have the right to choose their leader
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apapun yang terjadi kita ikut langkahnya pak Jokowi
It's funny how you put an atheist crazy insane dictator calling for democracy 😂😂😂😂
Apapun Berita yg kalian sebarkan, tetap PRABOWO SUBIANTO PRESIDENT INDONESIA 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Indon people stupid.countri kafir😂😂😂
Ya brooo,,,, insyallah prabowo mmbawa indonesia lbih baik,,, krn beliau gk semudah it di setir sm wrga asing,,,
Prabowo presidenQ❤❤❤❤❤
Yes
Heran emang ini antek antek segitu takutnya sama indonesia
Emang lu paham apa yang mereka bahas???😂😂😂😂
Lee Kuan Yew is dictator, and Singapore now is good, Xi jin ping is dictator. China is good. We can only hope Jokowi Prabowo is good too
Cherry picking. Most dictatorships are shitholes, and Bowo has been known for being absolutely retarded at the debates.
yeah autoritarianism is good when the leader is a guaranteed nationalist and competent.
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice and biden showing us how bad democrats are for a reason
LOL!!! It is so hilarious to hear when most western media criticizing the largest democracy in the world. One thing for sure, we from the "developing countries" will not follow the western version of democracy. Kudos Indonesia for showing us the way. 😂😂😂😂
Democracy is a western invention. You can not be democratic without following our example.
Exactly. Just look at the US, the place of Human Rights violation and disgusting social groups
Democracy is like a double edge sword, it can hurt yourself if it isn't used right. Like if you give a vote to an ignorant person, then it is like giving a fully loaded gun to a child.
We all know that this year 2024 election is a BIG FRAUD, it is long being orchestrated and staged by the unfair president to win the president eldest son, gibran.
Watch "Dirty vote".
Agreed Indian! From indonesia
Dia bahas ap om aku gk bsa basa enggres
Trust me, Indonesia democracy is away more open than any others. One man one vote. No electoral college, deep state, presidential candidate must meet 50% +1votes to win. From the chief of the village, regency and governate being chosen by residents directly through local elections. Western world should mind your own business, rest of the world no longer can learn any from them whether it's about democracy,human rights, humanity and free speech. We do better
Have you watched "Dirty Vote"? Are you sure we are a democracy & not a Banana Republic (Negara Pisang Kepok)?
Do you know that Prabowo is a long time Washington man until today?
@@siannyrooney3730 I did,, ever heard of Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes, Biden attempt against Trump, Indian Modi incorporate himself to Hinduvta against Moslems. Keir Stammer dirty acts against pro Palestinian Labour candidates. You're better go out there and have a look, educate yourself. That's not a rocket science. But,,, I guess those don't fit your narrative dear
@@siannyrooney3730 please elaborate, is the US is democracy for real, have you heard about deep state, and how AIPAC as a foreign agent fund politicians in the US. Should deceased Collin Powell, Tulsy Gabbard who served in Iraq War killing almost half millions Iraqis considered as war criminal or Bush Junior, the president.
Indonesia is politically and in every other way one of the most corrupt nations on the planet. I live there part time. It is completely 100% corrupt to the core.
There is no free speech in Indonesia. They imprison people for blasphemy...
😅😅😅 racun propaganda Amerika sdh keluar lagi 😅😅😅😅😅
Bro, ini media pemerintah Turki. Punya Erdogan 😂
Iy bro .tapi takutnya namanya disamarin Amerika.saya aja bingung .nyebut sati kena semua 😂😂😂
@@nasrah3857 Lihat dong di bagian bawah video. Ada tulisannya "media dibiayai oleh pemerintah Turki"
@@tamiekrans ternyata ada 😂😂😂
Mangkanya itu banyak berita propagandanya .sampai saya tdk fokus lihat judul 😂😂
You need to have the opinion one of the kidnapping victim that choose his side, because Prabowo not proven to be guilty of his human rights violations.
Kalau ada negara yang mendiskreditkan pemimpin Indonesia berarti kita sudah di jalur yang benar.
The Western world must stop the bad propaganda against the newly elected President. Their fear of the continuation of the downstream program for Indonesia's natural resources that was started by President Jokowi is the main reason for the many negative sentiments towards the President-elect. Prabowo is the military version of Jokowi who will continue all development programs that are proven to be on the right track, which will bring Indonesia into a developed country.
Kalau media barat bilang salah berarti kita udah benar, biasanya sih gitu
Prabowo's story itself is like an Asian drama, or a Bollywood movie rather than a Hollywood movie. (Spoiler alert)
Prabowo is the son of the great economist Sumitro. At first Sumitro worked for Sukarno. But when Sukarno (the first president) started to get closer to the communist party, the idealistic Sumitro began to distance himself from Sukarno. Sumitro and his children are liberal economists who are very anti-communist.
When Suharto (the second president) replaced Sukarno, he returned to Indonesia and became the economic architect that made Indonesia a developed country. One of his ideas is to eradicate poverty with education. One of his favorite students and colleagues, namely Prof. Widjojo Nitisastro created the SD Inpres program. all poor children can go to school. This Sumitro and Widjojo construction program was later researched by Ester Dufflo and wrote about it in Schooling and Labor Market Consequences of School Construction in Indonesia: Evidence from a Usual Policy Experiment" published in 2000. And Ester Dufflo received the Nobel Prize in 2019.
Sumitro, who is an idealist, educates his children liberally and democratically. Freeing their children to make their own future choices.
Young Prabowo enrolled at the Military Academy. Fell in love with President Suharto's daughter and married. When he graduated from Military Academy, this young officer's first assignment was to fight in Timor Leste. On the front line Prabowo fought against Xanana. The two fight between killed or being killed.
Currently, Xanana and Prabowo meet again, no longer as enemies but as partners in maintaining peace in the Asean region. The same thing with World War 2 veterans between brave American and Japanese soldiers who after the war became friends.
Then some other military duties. As a military officer who obeyed his superiors, Prabowo carried out his duties, including fighting against the independent Aceh movement. In Aceh he fought against Muzakir Manaf, commander of the independent Aceh movement.
Currently Muzakir Manaf is Prabowo's main supporter in the 2024 Presidential election. (Amazing isn't it? Well, that's how we Asians are.).
chapter 2
1998 There was a monetary crisis in Asia. Starting from the Thailand currency crisis, it spread to other countries, including Indonesia. What started as a financial crisis turned into a socio-political crisis.
There were voices of dissatisfaction with Suharto. There were riots and the killing and disappearance of several activists opposing Suharto. Suharto fell. Prabowo was fired from the military. His relationship with Suharto's family, including his wife, who was also Suharto's daughter, was fractured. What happened in 1998 leaves some speculation and mystery to this day.
Munir, a well-known human rights activist in Indonesia, conducted an investigation and in interviews during his lifetime stated that Prabowo was not the brain or mastermind of the 1998 riots. It seems that Prabowo was a puppet being played and caught in the sea of fire of the political elite fighting for power. It is true that members of his troops kidnapped several students, but whether they were the masterminds of the 1998 riots is still a mystery.
Habibi, Suharto's vice president, rose to become the 3rd president.
Habibi, the great scientist who discovered the theory of fatigue causing cracks in aircraft structures, became transitional President. The main task is to hold elections as soon as possible before Indonesia follows its fellow non-aligned country, Yugoslavia, and becomes a failed state due to cracks caused by fatigue in democracy. The province of Timor Leste, for example, separated from Indonesia.
Abdurahman Wahid well-known as Gusdur was elected as the 4th President of Indonesia.
Prabowo himself was in a devastated condition. His military career was destroyed, his family was destroyed, he left the country and started a new life from scratch as a civilian and started doing business.
Gusdur in one of his interviews on national TV said that Prabowo was a man who sincerely served the country.
The era of reform is rolling. After the riots, Indonesia re-knitted its torn national and state vision. The constitution was amended, improving democracy everywhere. The economy was reorganized. The 4th President was Gusdur, the leader of the largest Islamist organization in Indonesia, maybe even the world. Previously, Gusdur was known as a figure who promoted the values of humanism, pluralism and inclusivism. He is a perfect man to reconsilie Indonesia.
Even though democratic reform is improving... apparently the political elite, especially in the DPR, is not yet satisfied with fighting. Understandably, Indonesia is still in the learning stage of democracy. Gusdur said that DPR members were like children in kindergarten.
The dispute between Gusdur and the political elite DPR culminated in Gusdur's impeachment as President. (Even though to this day state administration experts are also confused about what mistake Gusdur made?). According to the constitution, the vice president is Megawati, the daughter of Indonesia's first president, Sukarno. Megawati rose to become the 5th president.
To prevent Gusdur's incident from happening again, where the legislative power of the DPR was too strong compared to the President, the constitution was again amended. The President is directly elected by the people.
In 2004, for the first time, the President was elected directly by the people using a one man one vote system. Susilo Bambang Yudoyono, known as SBY, the former Minister of Megawati, was elected by the people to become the 6th President. At this time, Prabowo returned to Indonesia as a businessman and started a political career.
Chapter 3
In 2008 Prabowo founded a new political party, the Gerindra Party. Gerindra consistently remained in opposition to the government until 2019.
SBY (a former commander of United Nation peace keeping Army) has been trusted by the people for 10 years. According to the constitution, the president has a maximum power of 2 x 5 years. SBY can no longer run for president. It is certain that in 2014 Indonesia will have a new President.
In 2014 Prabowo ran as a presidential candidate against a furniture business carpenter from the city of Solo. Joko Widodo, better known as JOKOWI.
Jokowi is an ordinary person, not a general nor an elite political party figure. In contrast to Prabowo, he is a general with Javanese royal blood, the son of an Indonesian minister and economist, and the former son-in-law of the president.
On the other hand, Jokowi is a commoner. He started his political career as mayor of Solo. His success in Solo became the talk of the town which led him to the Governor of Jakarta. Together with Ahok as deputy governor, they both received praise from the people for bureaucratic reform and infrastructure development.
The battle between Jokowi and Prabowo is very heated. Indonesia is divided into two. Jokowi represents the plebs and Prabowo represents the patricians.
Jokowi won and was elected as the 7th president. Prabowo and his supporters did not seem to accept defeat.
In 2019 they fight again. So tight. Once again Jokowi won. Prabowo still not accept defeat.
Unexpectedly, It is not like American democracy where Joe Biden and his supporters celebrated victory by mocking Trump supporters, Jokowi actually approached Prabowo and invited him to join the cabinet of ministers. (I've spilled it before, this is Asia, not the West).
2024 Prabowo runs again, this time accompanied by the eldest son of his former arch enemy. Gibran, Jokowi's eldest son, is the mayor of Solo.
Gibran qualified as a vice presidential candidate after the controversial decision of the constitutional court (MK) which limited the age of a vice president to 40 years. The Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court, who is also Gibran's uncle, approved the age limit as long as Gibran had experience in government.
Apparently there is a legal loophole that has not been anticipated by the legislature and is being exploited cleverly by Jokowi. Even though it doesn't violate the law, this is a serious violation of ETHICS. It is homework for the legislature elected in 2024 to fix these legal loopholes.
Despite the controversy over the vice president and the constitutional court, Prabowo apparently won the election with almost 60% of the vote. This is actually easy to predict considering that people see Prabowo getting the green light to continue Jokowi's legacy. Jokowi himself will retire with a level of popular satisfaction (approval rating) almost 80%, the highest among heads of state throughout the world, beating Xi Jinping, Putin and Joe Biden.
Chapter 4
Prabowo will almost certainly become the 8th President with the son of his former enemy as vice president.
His success team is full of former opponents both on the battlefield such as Muzakir Manaf, warlord of the Aceh movement, human rights activist from Papua Natalius Pigai and former 1998 student activists such as Andi Arief and Budiman Sudjatmiko... who were once opposed and hostile to Prabowo are now the main supporters Prabowo. (I told you this is Asia)
That's Prabowo's story.
Maybe his life story is no less than the novel by George RR Martin... but if I were allowed to summarize in 1 sentence about Prabowo.....
Prabowo is Saul from Tarsus who tried to transform into Saint Paul after being defeated twice by the carpenter from Solo, Jokowi.
And Puan was actually the one who proposed regulatory changes of age limit to constitutional court in august 2023 in the interest of her party and Ganjar. Both Anies and Ganjar wanted him but Gibran chooses Prabowo
bacot kami tidak bodoh bro..masah lalu biar lah masa lalu..kami mau menatap masa depan jgn jadi bangsa mudur...siapa yg tak punya dosa dimuka bumi ini???..ini manusia bacot
This was amazingly well put together. Writing worthy of considerable praise.
Just an insight of all three candidates from the viewpoint of a pragmatic centralist Indonesian:
1. Anies; he is more popular with the islamist factions and quite popular in some of the liberal thinkers circle. A weird combination for sure, a lot of educated people might also voted for him because they knew he would not have absolute power over his presidency due to the fact that he doesn't have large enough seats in the parliament. Those that do not vote for him afraid of his party backers that might carry hardline-islamist agenda.
2. Prabowo; everybody old enough to experience the reformasi era knows exactly how dirty his hand is, but out of all three candidates funny enough he is the most 'moderate' factions, despite his track records he has made a lot of changes through his political party Gerindra, which in some region showed that they could get things done. Just an example one of Jokowi running mate during the Jakarta governor election is from Gerindra, a chinese christian man named Ahok, something you would call a double minority in Indonesia, managed to secure a high position in the capital. Something unseen throughout Indonesian political history. From my perspective his party is actually quite progressive, also have a lot of young people filling up their party position.
3. Ganjar; he doesn't have good track record while being the governor of central java. He's also backed by PDIP and everybody knows that his presidency would only serve as a proxy for it's party leader, just like during Jokowi years where she insinuated that the president is only her party officer. He is probably closer to centrist in political position, but a lot of people grew distrust of the PDIP party questionable remarks during Jokowi era. Not to mention Jokowi himself instead indirectly endorsing Prabowo, his opponent in this contest, so that says something.
You Foret to mention that Ahok was imprisoned for blasphemy. Indonesia is politically inept, and completely corrupt.
@@chriscatherwood4806 yeah.. you forgot that hard line moslem organisation like fpi and hti got banned too
Our hope as Indonesians is that we are quite pleased with Mr. Prabowo being expected to become a firm, brave, and strong leader. With that, Indonesia can move forward calmly and peacefully towards the future. We need tranquility to progress, instead of having unclear demonstrations every day. We are tired of people being busy protesting but unwilling to work and strive. Especially since many demonstrators are driven by mostly extremist Arabs like thugs. Other countries are trying to move forward, strangely with this country wanting to regress.
Wrote like a true extremist racist you are 😀
Justru menurutku yang kebanyakan demo itu anak kuliah universitas dan buruh.
klo yang arab ekstrem itu seperti apa ?
FPI , HTI secara organisasi sudah dibubarkan..
@@herususilo3202 ya, benar.. mahasiswa yang terindikasi mindset ekstrimist. mereka ga akan puas dengan pemerintah. klo negara memakai hukum $y4ri4h baru mereka puas!
Komentar bodoh dan asal menulis
It's weird enough that eventhough Prabowo admited kidnaping 9 protester (not 20 as some says), those 9 protester was bring back home and some of those 9 protester even joined Gerindra, the political party founded and leaded by Prabowo. Let Indonesia people decided their own path, for their own good.
Indonesia will be stronger with Prabowo Gibran, Indonesia needs a strong leader, Prabowo will be tougher than Jokowi, dare to fight Europe 🕺
Are you sure
Fight with europe? Are you insane? Defence from them, not very much fighting with them lol 😂
@@danaandmusicyou know masa bersiap?😂😂
@@danaandmusicsearch in google what is masa bersiap
Ya , eropa harus segera di hancurkan .... Itu lah target utama Indonesia 💪
prabowo is an army , army is based on command , who is prabowo commander in that time , are you dont understand sis ??
That is the Nuremberg defence; he still is complicit. "Just following orders" didn't work ever as a defence.
remember the Turkish media,
Indonesian people don't need to think about the past, now Indonesian people want to think about the future, if you don't like the results of the Indonesian people's choices, it's better if you don't report on Indonesia
Human Right in the past vs New Indonesia with unity, Reconciliation and forgiveness. This is the dignity of our people.
The 2nd president of Indonesia, Soeharto, apart from his father-in-law, is also Prabowo's ideological teacher..his leadership style is likely to be the same. Don't let the 2024 election give birth to a new dictator...Indonesian people's education is still low, they are easily influenced by the image created by wolves, they are still wolves even if they wear sheep's fur...
3 NARASUMBER INI SEMUANYA PENGHIANAT BANGSA.
ANDA MEMBICARAKAN POLITIK, TAPI ANDA TIDAK TAHU GEOPOLITIK LUAR NEGERI. MEDIA BARAT SEDANG MENGADU DOMBA KITA. MEREKA TAKUT KEPADA SOSOK PRABOWO SUBIANTO. JADI DENGAN SEGALA CARA MEDIA BARAT MENJELEKAN NAMA PRABOWO.
ANDA TIDAK TAU APA APA.
@@putrapoetra1206 emangnya anda tau? 🤣
Lebih tepatnya si ANDREAS HARSONO. Dia berbicara seolah2 dia bukan org indo.
We will stronger and independent to avoid inteference western and to prevent global politic right now . WE LOVE INDONESIA , stop!!!!!!!!! the narrative of Prabowo had bad past gossip and human right abuse is out of date. the western media just dislike Prabowo because they were afraid of him. Indonesia will be the great country under the leadership of Prabowo . so hope YOU ...!!!!!! don't make bad narratives of him, give respect of our next President. Do not worries we democracy country and strong united, do not look behind - look forward.
and chinese.
I love Indonesia and that is why I resist attempts at sanitising its real history.
@@zulthyr1852 Just foreign media propaganda. POISON.!
Mereka memberitakan hal yang buruk karena mereka ada maksut yang tidak baik...tapi yang pasti rakyat indonesia memilihnya dan percaya pada pak prabowo karena pak jokowi yang telah merekomendasikan sedangkan jokowi adalah presiden yang jujur,pekerja keras dan yang paling penting beliau orang yang mati matian meperjuangkan indonesia agar menjadi negara maju kami dapat merasakan ketulusn pak jokowi dalam memimpin indonesia....rakyat sebenarnya masih menginginkan beliu menjadi presiden lagi tp peraturan undang undang di indonesia tidak memperbolehkan nya untuk menjabat 3 periode.maka dari itu siapa yang direkomendasikan pak jokowi pasti menang karena pak jokowi pasti memahaminya..we love joko widodo❤
this is real democracy
kami melihat ketulusan prabowo saya tau masa lalu tapi hari ini prabowo terbaik diantara pasangan lain
We know - We don't care - Because all of those accusations are slanders.
Prabowo - Gibran. ✌️🇮🇩
Anies - Imin ☝🇮🇩
@zulthyr1852 anis is educated great man but indonesia lose him
Dynasti politic ? How about George Bush, Bush jr as US presidents and Jeb Bush, as governor ?
As long as the majority people chose them, then that is a democracy.
Prabowo was dismissed from Army duties because of the presiden of that time, Mr. Habibie sees him as the obstacle due of Prabowo is Soeharto son in law, many senior generals do not like Prabowo, the rising star of the regime, although Habibie and Prabowo are have close relationship, it is about the game and politics, Prabowo known that.
Now Prabowo is leading almost 58 percent of the votes, The people have had chose Them.
Accept that for your health Andreas and Tobias.
Regard
aduh yakinlha Prabowo tdk seperti yg di pilirkan orang barat, Prabowo adalah nasionalis, patriotik dan visi misinya jelas untuk kesejahteraan, keberdikarian dan kemajuan indonesia, masalah etik masih aja di permasalahkan terus, dan saya sepakat dgn bapak botak yg di atas kalau prabowo tdk akan berbuat macam2 lagian sekarang sudah jaman keterbukaan
WAW INIKAH PROPAGANDA BARAT 😂😂😂
People of indonesia choose him.
Indonesia adalah negara non-blok dan akan terus demikian.
Andreas 🖕
Prabowo presidennya
IndONEsia pasti maju
Yakin gue mah 😘
Anda beropini apapun ..kami warga Indonesia yang menentukan pilihan kami sendiri..
Just a bit of advice to you: make sure you are impartial and covering both sides if you want to make a news out of this very complex situation. I don't know what is the journalistic principle in Turkey, but shouldn't it follow international standard journalism principle? I am not surprised if your journalism standard is a bit off seeing all the story around your President Erdogan.
if means dictatorship for those who wants to opposed Indonesian economy and politics, why not? Not whole democracy country are really practice an "ideal democracy", because democracy itself can be dictator or vibrant.
15:45 I agree with Shoeb.
Transactional is worst.
And i do not agree with Andreas.
Dynasty politics has become commonplace in Indonesia. mayor, governor, legislature, executive and so on.
Andreas defended Megawati and PDIP, even though when Megawati was president, her daughter Puan was also a high-ranking party official and member of the DPR. Talking about dynasty, Megawati's grandson will run as a member of the legislature if elected in 2024!!
The public does not sympathize with the PDIP candidates not because the quality of Ganjar and Mahfud MD is lacking, but the public sees how the PDIP plays with the issue of nepotism even though the PDIP is the perpetrator of nepotism.
PDIP is playing around with ethical issues even though the public remembers how PDIP is also an ethical violator.
Andreas' argument that there has never been nepotism in the history of a president in power, there has always been a time lag... is not true.
Has Andreas forgotten the era of President Megawati? The Suharto era where his daughter became a minister?
if we use the same standards...Gibran will become vice president when his father retires.
I do not condone nepotism and dynastic politics.
It is difficult for political parties to make laws regarding ethics and nepotism if internal political parties also have dynastic politics and nepotism.
Why didn't PDIP speak out loud about banning Gibran when he was Mayor of Solo? or Bobi, the president's son-in-law when he was Mayor of Medan? PDIP does not have a problem with nepotism at all, instead it supports and encourages it. Was it because at that time Gibran and Bobi were PDIP members and benefited PDIP?
PDIP and its sympathetic political analysts only cried nepotism when Jokowi left PDIP...?
that's really ridiculous.
Come on Andreas, let's improve this nation starting from ourselves.
I agree with what you said here, at least most of it especially concerning PDIP - one of the most hypocrites bunch I have ever seen. However, we have different opinion on that transactional politic is always bad. I think politics by nature is transactional, and if that's the nature better go right down to the business rather than masking themselves as ideological and yet still end up making both upper and under the table deals.
USA is a prime example. Seeing dominant party Democrat and Republican, people may think they are very ideological. Well, not really, in the end they are fighting on each of their specific interest but when their common interest as politician/people in power, they will rally together to stop any status quo changes.
Like in this interview, one of the panelists is from SG. I was laughing a lot when he is depicting his thoughts on what he thinks of wrongdoings done by Jokowi, yet he seems oblivious on the political state in his own authoritarian country. SG democracy is so hilarious that since its independence only one, I repeat, only one particular party ever hold the power. Critics are silenced. Media is restricted. Their citizen, despite their high education, just play a robotic role to vote in politics.
PRESIDENT PRABOWO SUBIANTO
VICE PRESIDENT GIBRAN RAKABUMING
🔥🔥🔥🔥🇮🇩
my condolence to the family of missing activist in 1998, but to be fair the missing and people killed in Soekarno to Soeharto Era was countless, even to this day missing people in many city either from accident, crimes and others circumstances exist as many unsolvable cases.
the accusation to prabowo for me its more like cancle culture things because he has close relationships with Soeharto and he was elite or people in elite circles.
where actually there is more people who commit mass killing and genocide like coverr in documentary film Jagal (Act of Killing), and our people still okay with that because they who slaughtered are PKI although they are really had no chance to be involved and proven guilty in the court,
and the perpetrators can get away peacefully in the same neighborhood of victims family. that's really more messed up than accusation to Prabowo.
Direct voting, respect to democracy, Mr. Prabowo New President of Indonesia
Whatever the western talks about our new leaders, we will support our new leaders because it's choosen by the majority of the Indonesian people. We will work together to be giant, strong and honourable country. 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
This news does not cover bith sides.
Because your side is full of idiots.
Indonesia schools do not teach enough history and civics. The main focus in their schools is religion.
Indoctrination which is dangerous.
dude we learn enough civics and hsitory.. we know who prabowo is, and slender againsts prabowo that only happen during election.
we know that human rights accusation of prabowo is just political, no actual proof
Kami orang Indonesia, bukan kalian yang lebih mengenal pak prabowo.prabowo menyerahkan hidupnya untuk negara kami..jangan kalian ikut campur urusan orang lain
Prabowo has always been a devoted person who loves his country and the people. He was subjected to wrong leadership under soeharto, but then he was asked to serve under Jokowi, who is totally different from Soeharto, who also has the same vision and ideas for the Indonesian future. Hence, he agreed to continue what Jokowi has done
We dont want to have dictatorial goverment in Indonesia, what we want is a firm and steady goverment. Older generation, western media and goverment have recognized him as a human right violator,pro demoracy activitist kidnapper or papua and east timor people killer. What we know he is a good soldier, who dedicated all his life for the good of our motherland Indonesia. We believe what we choose for our future, but we people keep two eyes open widely for what he will do in next 5 years.
Indonesia New Super Power.
Uraaaaa Prabowo
You guys don't have to worry so much about our country, just worry about your own first, okay. We ain't choosing saint here, but we pick the best available for our country.
O don't know about you guys, but to us, our future is super important than our past.
So, the young people did not let the past Made us down.
As an Indonesia, our blindness to never see Prabowo as a branch of Orba, the western supported government built on US interests, and his crimes against progress and humanity during Trisakti and the such is such a shame.. This election was never good, but the populous has once again been persuaded with sweet words of "continuing policies" from a war criminal and a dynasty being built on this very democracy. As a previous supporter of Jokowi and a proud progressive yearning for this country to fight imperialists and foreign interests, this is not the answer. I can do nothing other than studying for the future, but just from this comment section and many others, Im starting to lose hope.
Semakin kalian para media barat memfitnah presiden kami prabowo, semakin kami mencintai dia dan semakin mengenal betapa buruknya kalian media propaganda
If foreign media doesn't like a country's leader, then you made the right choice
HATI-HATI BANYA YANG IRI DENGAN INDONESIA
Indonesia is a very democratic country. we want a strong leader with reconciliation between the forces of Jokowi and Prabowo, which have divided us into two very extreme camps over the last 10 years.
Sebutkan negara yang tidak ada nepotisme?
I dong mind having him as a presiden, but the appointment of gibran is a real ethical issue.
Saya tidak menyesal memilih gibran, Saya yakin gibran anak cerdas, anak yang pemikirannya jauh lebih bagus. Saat jadi pemimpin solo,itu bentuk kerja nyata beliau. Rakyat sudah cerdas memilih, kalau bisa kerja kenapa tidak, kalau positif kenapa tidak. Dari pada kita salah pilih, malah pilih koruptor. Aku lebih sedih kalau ada yang milih koruptor.
Cant wait to hear comment from Nerherland TV or journalist
Ingatlah bahwa sebagian besar pelanggaran hak asasi manusia dilakukan oleh Amerika dan israel , terutama di Timur Tengah.
Tah itu alasannya gw gk mau nyoblos yg pro-normalisasi hubungan sama Israel
Adanya perang yang terjadi di Palestina, sebabnya karena Israel dan america. Justru kalian negara kejam ini salah memilih pemimpin, memilih pemimpin yang kejam2 terus.
@@zulthyr1852hei bodoh yg pro sama zionis dan negara2 barat itu si anies, si babu zionis negara2 barat dan yang gua khawatirkan kalo si anies terpilih maka ormas preman islam radikal akan bangkit di indonesia seperti HTI,FPI bukan cuma itu takutnya kelompok teroris ISIS juga hadir di indonesia itu sangat membahayakan kedaulatan NKRI
Amerika proganda kami rakyat Indonesia tidak berhak di atur-atur negara lain Indonesia merdeka
Orang2 di acara itu tampaknya pada kurang literasi. Mereka hanya fokus pada masa lalu Pak Prabowo. Mereka tidak tahu kalau Pak Prabowo telah menemukan teknologi baru bidang pertanian. Teknologi baru terbarukan baru-baru ini, yaitu metode baru tanam singkong tumbuh jagung di polybag panennya kayu meranti.
ini sih namanya conditioning.....lalu ntar agitasi...trus didorong timbul anarki..tolong diawasi gerakan segelintir para purnawirawan jendral (barisan sakit hati) dan aktivis LSM/NGO.....mereka proxy nya negara asing.....
Presiden Indonesia
PRESIDEN 2024 @PRABOWO @GIBRAN_RAKABUMING 👉🤘👆✌🫰👈 INDONESIA EMAS BAHAGIA 🙏🏻🌹❤✨
If the West uses the term human rights in Papua? stupid!
the answer to all of that is gold, diamonds, all the wealth in Papua.
to hell with human rights, a stupid issue for third countries.
Tell me what american democracy brings nowadays? I say more bad than good for human kind
What are you missing is the fact that he was the victim of chaotic political turmoil leading to Suharto’s downfall in 1998
kenapa media malah semua meng up masa lalu kami tidak akan melupakan masa lalun tapi masa depan lebih penting dan hari ini prabowo adalah calon presiden terbaik kami memilih karna ketulusanya kebaikanya bukan masa lalunya, datanglah keprabowo anda akan melihat hatinya yang sangat bersungguh sungguh
Jika prabowo buruk tidak mungkin banyak yang memilih prabowo. Hentikan propaganda ini.
As a Indonesian, i'm very sad if Prabowo won election
The silent majority 🇮🇩✌️💪💪💪💪
downstream industry include nickel
Name which country there is absolutely no nepotism?
great country of Indonesia, looks so modern
All in Prabowo
i am indonesian...i choose prabowo...we need him to protect our resources from europe and US....prabowo continue what jokowi do last decade.....this news is propaganda for our country????....most of indonesian support downstream of industry...if us and europe want our resources, must build company or plants on our country. past is past, we must look future for our country so simple as that.
Oh tidak😂😂
Mari kita lihat masa depan sangatlah panjang. Sekolah gratis di ganti menjadi makanan gratis dan di lakukan tahun 2029😭😭
@@AndiArim anda salah paham.....pintar banget spin berita persis orang asing sampean ini. lagi pula dilantik aja belum udah ribut menjelek2kan memang anda ini kayak kadrun dan kampret saja.
You dont know Indonesia precisely!
Shoeb KAGDA is SMART PEOPLE!! WE DON'T NEED ANDRE, THANK YOU FROM INDONESIA
hati hati propaganda barat damailah indonesiaku
Indonesia will continue to stop exporting mining raw materials
Prabowo Subianto ✌️🇮🇩
bnyak negara barat ketakutan jika prabowo jd presiden krn progam jokowi akan dilanjutkan prabowo, hilirisasi mutlak dilanjutkan krn itu yg bt indonesia bs jd negara maju..
prabowo the next presiden.. 💗🇮🇩🇮🇩🥰😍😘
What ever you said, Prabowo is our best choice and we love him to lead our country now. 56% of Indonesian voters agree with me.
Many thks to pak Jokowi who's bringing back the Orba
❤ Prabowo Subianto ❤
Lawan perang ekonomi Eropa. Lanjutkan moratorium barang tambang. Stop ekspor tambang mentah. Lanjutkan Hilirisasi Nikel dll.
Lanjutkan biofuel (sawit dll). Lawan kebijakan deforestasi Uni eropa.
EROPA MUNAFIK DAN TAK INGIN KITA MENJADI NEGARA MAJU ‼️
Gw pro-hilirisasi, tapi lawan kebijakan deforestasi? Kita juga yang kena efeknya, goblok...
Nanti lu malah kabur ke Eropa waktu rumah lu kebanjiran, banyak gagal panen, dll...
who cares nepotism, when majority of your people choose you as a vice president.
who cares? wdym who cares?
lu sadar itu hal bikin demokrasi hancur? di khianati pemerintah malah tutup mata tutup telinga, ga habis fikir kebanyakan pendukung no 2 keliatan fanatik dan ga mau liat the bigger picture.
@@lililac04 demokrasi hancur? Lu dukun? Makanya mending siapin materi buat 5 tahun lagi biar orang2 fanatik ini bisa kyk elu.
@@lililac04kamu lihat berapa banyak yang jadi koruptor, karena kalian hanya melihat luarnya saja, dalamnya dong dilihat, cara kerjanya dan cara pikirnya di lihat. Etika baik belum tentu bisa kerja, belum tentu kerja nyata, belum tentu cocok dengan rakyat. Contoh mega wati,apakah mega wati cocok dengan takyat, tidak kan. Apakah puan cocok dengan rakyat, tidak kan. Saat ini yang cocok dengan rakyat adalah yang seperti prabowo dan gibran.
@@charleston7970 Orang - orang "Cerdas" ini berpikir demokrasi sehat otomatis rakyat makmur, pemilu bersih otomatis orang dibalik paslon bersih tidak korupsi, membawa agama otomatis amanah. Sedih saya lihat orang - orang berpendidikan ini terlalu lugu..terlalu naif dengan politik indonesia. Setiap paslon tidak ada yang bersih masa lalunya, termasuk pak prabowo, tapi ingat kata romo magnus, “Pemilu bukan untuk memilih yang terbaik, tapi untuk mencegah yang terburuk berkuasa". Sekarang rakyat terpecah karena politik agama, negara luar mencoba devide et impera lagi, hanya bapak prabowo - gibran yang punya kekuatan politik dan kemampuan untuk menjaga rakyat indonesia sekaligus menuntun menuju macan asia kembali.
Lebih baik saya berjalan bersama harimau tua dibanding dikelilingi gerombolan serigala lapar !
Peace
HATI² PROPAGANDA BARAT BERMUNCULAN BRO😂😂😂😂😂,, BERITA BARAT MEMANG BEDA TENTANG INDONESIA KU TERCINTA TIDAK SEPERTI BERITA DI CINA DAN ALJAZIRA YG BERPIKIRAN POSITIF BARAT MEMANG BEDA BERSIFAT PROFOKASI
Turki
@@zulthyr1852 mungkin turki lagi butuh bantuan America dan sekutunya. Taukan maksud Saya, lagi krisis, kalau bukan negara itu yang bisa membantu, siapa lagi.
Please help us S.O.S
Dictactor.....?
You have to wash your brain and your mind......
Indonesian not your toys anymore since Jokowi as president and now continue by Mr. Prabowo...
And your opinion to devide Indonesia is FAILED.... your proxy man didnot trushted by major people of Indonesia...
Sad for you....
Lets gone be by gone, in move forward cant live with the past
Prabowo will make Indonesia greater
Negara barat amerika dan sekutunya gk suka klo indonesia maju, maka di adu domba lah rakyat indonesia karena klo di serang fisik mikir mikir dulu tuh amerika dan sekutunya emank gila perang ambisi menguasai dunia
Let's startd to the world information by Prabowo viral
gak peduli seluruh dunia ngecam yang penting rakyat indonesia cinta
MPR/DPR PDIP/PSI, PRESIDENT PRABOWO. PDIP & PSI AGREE to the law on impoverishing corruptors
Malunya si ngeliat joget2nya, seakan seluruh indonesia seneng joged2 kayak gitu..
Prabowo punya kualitas unggul dari pada 01 dan 03, itu lebih cocok dengan masyarakat. Makanya sebagian hampir memilihnya.
@@charleston7970 disini saya tanya sekitaran saya, kenapa pilih prabowo.. Jawabannya rata2 karna ikut2an.. Iya bener.. Sesuai sama mayoritas masyarakat nya
@@fbynr92 Makin sempurna dan makin banyak orang yang tau dia,dan juga sih 02 adem2 saja selama menjelang pemilu tak ada sesuatu yang over. Jadinya banyak yang senang dan suka.
@@charleston7970 iya bilangnya.. Ikut yang rame aja.. Yaudahlah mau gimana lagi, emang mayoritas masih pake emosi milihnya
@@charleston7970 disini sih saya sering denger omongan2 dari satpam.. Karyawan toko.. Yang pro prabowo, dan literally di depan tps bilangnya iki kepinteren, ojo dipilih (01). Kultur disini juga masih ngikut2 pengajian kayak gus iqdam itu yang didatengin gibran pas hari tenang.. Lumayan lah gaet suara kediri raya dan sekitarnya
WOYYY KOK OPENING-NYA GITU?!
This is not Prabowo who has been elected but it is Jokowi still. Yes, he is definitely behind him.
Orang sejalan ingin Indonesia maju, dan bisa menjaga Indonesia, mampu melawan negara Eropa dan negara yang paling suka mengatur Indonesia.
Prabowo ❤
Prabowo never did anything, his subordinates were careless
Good for china. They need market, natural resources, and labors destination
Bapak Jenderal Prabowo tulus cinta mati untuk bumi pertiwi🎉🎉
Mr. H. Prabowo Subianto The Great Leader In Indonesia Country N Is The Best Leader Menuju Indonesia Adil Makmur Sejahterah .