The Queen Notices Odd Behavior | The Crown (Imelda Staunton, Andrew Havill)
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- Elizabeth (Imelda Staunton) notices everyone behaving oddly around her. When she confronts Robert (Andrew Havill), he mentions an article featuring a poll claiming that the British public felt the queen was 'old,' 'irrelevant,' and 'expensive.'
From Season 5, Episode 1: Queen Victoria Syndrome
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Reminds me of an old comedy sketch (set just after the golden jubilee)
Charles: you wanted to see me, mummy?
Queen: Not really, no. But we need to agree a few things. Like what am I when you become King?
Charles: err dead?
Queen: Thank you brain of Britain. I mean what would I be called if I were to abdicate?
Charles: the King's mother?
Queen. Exactly, it just sounds silly. So I'll just have to stay Queen until someone comes up with something less silly.
Charles: but... that could take years
Queen: Quite.
Dowager Empress
@@andrewg.carvill4596no, Charles that makes it sound like your father was King and I were just his consort. Even sillier.
She never abdicated as she believed in the stability of the monarchy.
Also, the Duke Of Edinburgh would have been demoted and he lived almost as long as the Queen. To Charles, becoming King would mean the passing of his mother. I don't believe he ever wanted that.
I still think of Queen Elizabeth II as my queen. She was queen my entire life. I still haven't adapted to the fact that Prince Charles is now King Charles III.
Whenever anyone mentions that title, I still say WHO?
Strange but true: Charles and Camilla are the only two Royals I ever met in-the-flesh, so to speak. I met them when they came to dedicate the local war memorial back in 2011 (I think it was?) I don't mean that I had any kind of audience with them. I was a distance away from them, maybe even the other side of the street. But they looked just like those people on the telly. The war memorial had just been renovated.
In Spain we call ours “The Emeritus”.
@@janwel74 No, Charles. That makes me sound like an airline company, still silly
I am not a royalist but I often wonder if the papers make up these polls. I regularly read 50 percent of this 90 per cent of that and I have never once been asked to participate in any of them nor has anyone i know.
This is typical of the nonsense this show tends to create. No wonder the royals themselves hated the show. It wasn't the Times or Sunday Times that conducted a survey, but Market and Opinion Research International (A Mori Poll).
That poll supposedly asked about a 1,000 people and of those asked 47% stated that they felt that the Queen should step aside at 'some point.' That doesn't necessarily mean that the people had had enough of the Queen, but that people were concerned that she may be taking on too much work in her later years. Remember, the rest of us usually retire around the age of 65 (in the UK). When this poll was conducted in 1991, the Queen was 65 years of age.
There was chatter about her possibly abdicating. But HRM Elizabeth II took her responsibility very seriously and I'm sure it never entered her mind.
I don’t remember any discussion of the Queen retiring, ever. Of course I’m Canadian, not British, so maybe we aren’t privy to all the discussions in the UK, but she was our Queen, too. Not a word ever appeared in the Canadian press that I’m aware of.
None in Australia either from memory. Typical British newspaper trying to CONTRIBUTE the narrative by printing things that suit them.
As an American I remember several articles in the last 5 years of her life that suggested it was her time to step aside. I don't remember any that would predate 2010, however.
Rupert Murdoc's attempt at sensationalism. He owned that paper.
It was never conducted by the Times or Sunday Times, but a Mori Poll which surveyed about 1,000 people. 47% suggested that it might be a good idea if the Queen should 'step-aside' at 'some point.' The retirement age in the UK at that time was 65 (men) and 60 (women). In 1991 when this survey was conducted, the Queen was 65 years old. But there was never any headline splashed across any newspaper. These programme makers thrown these things in just to make a bit-of-drama. It would be sad if future generations regard this show as an accurate history. It's balderdash, as my American cousins might say.
"Half of British public agrees" - I was in my 20s - I can't remember anybody being asked. Love it when a newspaper makes up bollocks.
The British press is the most powerful entity in Great Britain. More powerful than the royal family and parliament
It was a poll, not a census. You don't include everyone in the country in a poll. On a binary question, asking 1,000 people is sufficient to limit the sample error to ±3%.
I love it when people think they know what they’re talking about. Especially the British.
Newspaper opinion polls 'I asked my cat, mittens'
@@thomasdalton1508 I agree. American political polling does the same to save money and generate controversy - only 1000 people is always inaccurate. Often 15-20 point margin of error.
Elizabeth would never abdicate. She remembered the damage and trauma to the country when her uncle Edward abdicated
She certainly did what she felt was her duty but honestly, that abdication and hers, should she have chosen to step aside in favor of Charles, would have been two totally different things. I'm certain that if Prince Phillip had lived a few more years, then the Queen would have broken the record of longest reigning monarch ever but I could see after his death that she would not be long with us and she wasn't. She held on for 70 amazing years and then gracefully exited stage left like a true sovereign.
What damage? And what trauma?
The abdication damaged Elizabeth’s immediate family and that is it. The monarch has an important but limited function, and frankly Albert was better than Edward.
The government wanted Edward to go, which is why they forced the issue of him marrying a divorcee, in spite of that being a complete non issue (as demonstrated by Charles).
@@HALLish-jl5mo True Albert was a much better King than Edward but because the British papers kept Edwards affair with Mrs Simpson a secret when it came out to the public and the abdication it did cause much hurt to the people
@@kevq761 Who did it hurt and how?
To 99.99% of the country, the abdication was a man they didn't know quitting his new job.
@@HALLish-jl5mo Things were different in the 1930s vs. the 80s/90s
Thank goodness she didn't abdicate!
I have never heard anyone ever who wanted charles on the throne instead of the queen, most people have dreaded charles becoming king.
Best Queen ever ,best monarch ever,hard shoes to fill !
The idea of committing to a lifetime of service is far beyond the grasp of most commoners. In my experience the same people have difficulty committing to a specific breakfast in the morning. I’m glad she wouldn’t hear of it, she showed true character that the world won’t soon forget.
She dedicated her life to her people and her common wealth. We never saw it, but it probably broke her heart. I’d just spend more of their tax money honestly. She could’ve been way, way worse
While not as good as Olivia Colman as the middle-aged queen, Ms. Staunton is excellent as the older monarch. This series is extraordinarily well done.
I think Staunton had the hardest job of the three actresses, because she played the Queen of our recent memory. Claire Foy and Olivia Colman were both great and had the advantage of playing the Queen in earlier years.
Indeed. I think you are so right. She captured so much about our Queen Elizabeth.
@@PJChgo1 My only objection is the performances of Claire Foy. She gets it all wrong. She plays the young queen as a wide-eyed deer-in-the-headlights naif -- scared of her husband and scared of her own shadow. In fact, in "real life," QE II found her self in the most exhalted social position on earth, and basically said: "Let's get on with it, shall we?"
@JamesMcCown-yf3qf I'm not familiar with Claire Foy's other work, but I like both Olivia Coleman and Imelda Staunton but I don't think either of them was good in this role. They both seemed to play the Queen as dour, humourless and self doubting. Ideal for a fictional drama, maybe, but not really accurate to what we know of HM.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 Thanks -- it remains my positon that it was Foy's performance that was "dour, humorless and self-doubting," not that of Staunton and Colman, who I believe were outstanding.
Elizabeth the Great.
I think "the Steadfast" is fitting and more unique
@@Dudelsackpfeifertrue lol
The Queen would never step down, she is like the Pope she is in it for life.
The public is weird and fickle.
A lot thought she should abdicate, then when she died they wanted her back. No-one wanted Charles but now they quite like him. Burn camilla! Well no, she's quite popular now.
Public opinion is ridiculous
Cheater Charlie and Strumpet Cowmilla. Both of them are sad and pathetic.
You speak for yourself.
Out here in the "colonies" as Brits like to think of us as, we've always known Charlie was not very bright, and we never thought he should be king. We still don't. As for Camilla, nobody wants her around. Last time she was here in Australia, she showed contempt for us "peasants" by reading a magazine during an official engagement.
Both of them are the sort ruled by their loins and not their brains, unfit to be head of the Church, let alone be principal royalty, signing laws into effect and having the power to sack prime ministers.
My favorite name for her is Cowmilla. I don't care for Chuck, but I'm leaving him alone because of his illness. @keithammleter3824
@@bornontherimofchaos They haven't actually said what it is he has, but from what has been reported, he almost certainly has the same cancer I had, which is very common in old men, such as Charlie or me. It's no big deal for most, and easily fixed (as mine was) unless the silly man waited until symptoms were marked before consulting a doctor. All my bits still work, more or less. So should Charlie's bits, though it might be a while yet before they do.
Genuine public opinion is generally not as widely known as what the media want us to think is the public's opinion.
I can't believe she would take that seriously.
It was a very serious constitutional issue !
Instead of this scene being about whether Elizabeth should retire, I see it more as Elizabeth feeling the weight of age and the whole institution. As the whole monarch represents the past, she also feels that she herself represents something past and old-fashioned. Something that doesn't fit the modern world. She is like an ancient relic that is kept in museum.
Who would want charles...i wish the queen was still alive
We had it good for a while there, before we got bored and put a stick of dynamite in it, didn’t we? Maybe that’s what you miss.
Many of us. He does amazing things for charity in a quiet classy way - (not like an American)
@@honeymcdonald9120 bull. The most charitable country IS America as of 2023, ranking number 3 in 2022. The UK never ranks that high. Not to mention the most philanthropic individuals are also American. You have a king and a mistress with a crown. Charity is the only way to make them look decent and most are waiting for them both to drop dead William can take over.
Me too.
If you are in favour of an hereditary constitutional monarchy, there are certain downsides that you simply have to tolerate. If you were starting from scratch, you probably wouldn't want to give all the plalaces and all the jewels for one family to enjoy in perpetuity. But we're not starting from scratch, so if you want a better system, what would that be, and what would it cost to change to it? I'm no royalist, but I don't see much point in changing the current system because it would be too contentious. If Charles really screws it up, and there was a popular demand for change, then modernise by all means. But I don't think Charles is really screwing up, as far as I can tell. If anything he's doing better than expected, from the limited interest I take in them. What is really infantilizing is the public's obsession with the private doings of the various scions of the family. I don't find them to be particularly sympathetic people, but nevertheless I would hate to be a member of the institution, which is like a gilded cage.
King Charles is currently overseeing the dismantling of England and its freedoms without a word of demurral.
I'm not sure what you mean.
❤❤❤Your Majesty❤❤❤
Possibly, we've all been in that situation at some time in our lives and let it pass. The Queen is in no position to let it pass. We'd all like to know (or maybe not) why people are being "odd." I always let it pass, I don't want to know, but then I'm not queen.
abdication gave her the duty ....
Well, they weren't wrong. Especially about the expensive part.
Interesting side note
Imelda Staunton and Jim Carter (the butler, Mr Carson from Downton Abbey) are the real parents of Bessie Carter (the tall sister from Bridgerton, Prudence Featherington), Bessie is dating the actor who played Lord Debling (Sam Phillips)
Wasn’t Sam Phillips in seasons 3 and 4 of The Crown, playing an equerry or whatever they call it
Honey McDonald, your post is super high-intensity trivia.
I am not a monarchist at all, but there is something to be said about failing to carry on from an inherited title that has destroyed any semblance of a personal life.
Here's a question why should taxpayers keep footing the bill to keep funding the royals?
That was all Charles pushing to shove his mum aside for him to take the throne.
Charles is most definitely put of touch today to the pony the real brits are thonking of dosolving the monarchy. Ehat a crazy thing for him to say or do.
What a load of tripe.
I agree - this is totally made up for an American audience.
Who wrote the article? What was there?
unfortunately, like so much (perhaps too much) of this show, it's drama-driven fiction
It was a poll conducted by MORI and published in the Sunday Times on 21 January 1990 (they changed the date in the show for some reason). You can find the article on the Times website (they republished it), but it is behind a paywall. The show somewhat misrepresents the article, but it is a real article.
It was not a big thing and I certainly did not was our Queen to abdicate at all……. Papers soon had other things to write rubbish about…..
Elizabeth was a more rational and lucid leader to the end of her days than Charles will ever be. He has been infected with bad ideologies, and maybe she is to blame for that, but he is to blame for not outgrowing them as a man does.
Which “bad ideologies” has he been “infected” with?
@@tatata1543Climate change perhaps
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Climate change is not an “ideology”. It’s a scientific fact.
@@tatata1543 Anyone who denies that climate change is real, human-driven, and dangerous for our future as a species is infected with a bad ideology.
A reporter asks a few people and they agree,thinking it’s what they want to hear…and it goes from there…I can’t believe the whole nation wanted the Queen to abdicate…one monarch per century is quite enough…
Indeed, she 'made' his successor to wait 'too long'.
I personally think this was a weak episode and not the way the queen would respond.
THE BRITISH MONARCH DOESN´T ABDICATE ! AT LEAST THE REAL ONES ; TAKING THEIR SERVICE SERIOUSLY;( WHAT THE EXEPTION EDWARD VIII DIDN´T) !
I’m glad she didn’t abdicate! After what Charles did to Diana, the rest of the world believes Charles to be too cruel and incompetent to become King.
When no one wants to admit Charles is incapable.
Most people think he's okay.
Bit of a Twit, perhaps, but a thousand years of inbreeding isn't going to produce the proverbial MENSA material is it ...
Hardly. He has been in training all of his adult life.
Charles is a cold fish narcissist imo.
This is feeling familiar right now in the US.
Why on earth would the US care about who was the UK monarch?
@@fifilindman Is that what you got from my post?1 We don't care who is the monarch in the UK or anywhere else, however, we just went through having a president pull out of a reelection race because people thought that he is too old to govern.
And unlike the queen, Biden’s dementia and Harris’ incompetence do require that both advocate,
This actor is pitiful
"Irrelevant. Old."
Why are people so quick to cast aside experience, honor, and duty? Sometimes we need a stabilizing force. In the US, Biden provides that stabilizing force, too.
Wanting a quick fix is foolish.
Biden????
Part of what makes the Monarchy a stabilizing force is that it stays out of politics. No US president could be stabilizing in such a way thanks to the extremely divisive two-party system that the US has gotten itself into.
He is stabilized in a pickled mess called his brains if thats what you mean joe Biden stable, the sky is actually in the ground if that's true.
Public opinion? Charles himself may have had a hand in that story ... desperate to be king.
Okay, I'll be honest, as an American and an Afro-Latina woman, yeah I thought she was irrelevant too. But after everything I've watched I can now say Queen Elizabeth was incredibly vital for the survival of England as well as a pillar of the Euro-theatre. I think she was a great queen and would've made a great politician but I don't think she was a great mother nor do I think she was a great human, good person sure. Her stance on South Africa, how she recognized the sovereignty of smaller nations. But how she handled Charles and Diana, her kids who all clearly needed to be humbled severely as well as the voice mad where and there. I was like hmmmmm no.