11 hours in and we never completed the 1st encounter lol edit: came back today after a rest and finished 1st encounter but we didn't even attempt any after that
Same it is a hell of a puzzle and we got most of it down but just couldn't figure out what we were doing wrong got to dunks a few times but it was never enough time gained
This isn't the contest mode raid y'all think it is. The best of the best team have been stuck on 4th encounter for 10 hours. Just wait until it's not contest anymore. Not worth it unless you're the 1%.
Thx for the guide. And thx for the quality editing. Alot of guides are just explanations with background play of someone not even doing the mechanics that they're talking about. Dig the map and the pauses to show the "conductor" and others. I dig quick & concise guides like these. Thx & will share to clan discord
Also worth noting about the rooms that open: they're always rooms next to eachother. So if someone is going into the room on the right, then the upper right or lower right room will also be open. Helps save a few seconds
I really hope you make guides for all the raid encounters, because this was an amazing guide well explained, great edits to show all the important stuff, thank you very much T V
One thing i dont understand here; after we kill tormentor 2nd time, ping poing plates will appear, how do people know where will they spawn and who to go on what plate?
@@haileyredrix3102 i know how mechanic works but how do you know in which room they will glow for you to stand? Do these plates glow in rooms right before you kill 2nd tormentor?
One plate actually lights up for each tormentor you kill, so one team can start pinging the resonance back and forth early. If each team of 3 has a thunderlord and tether you can easily kill the second tormentor with just 3 and let the first plate team focus on their loop.
@@SuperRONDALEDefinitely not a waste, for the most part this encounter is all about staying alive and killing everything. Machine guns in general are great for this encounter. Throwing on Tlord sounds perfect for this. I used Tractor on Tormentor and he got melted in seconds every time.
People need to realize that thunderlord is a great exotic, when you’re not using it for dps like a bot. It’s a machine gun and a damn good one when you’re using it for adds and beefy targets like tormentors, like you should.
im not doing contest mode, im waiting for tomorrow to play the normal version, and this video helps a lot all other videos had no comms, no explanation at all
We were able to figure out most of the encounter, but this helped to clarify what we were missing. I am also tsking your tip of Ground team and Basement/Attic Team.
Hey, this guide is extremely well done. As clear and concise as it needs to be. I'd love for you to continue with this kind of stuff! Unfortunately its for the only encounter I've already finished and know the mechanics haha
Concise description of this encounter, even after contest mode this is going to break a lot of teams. Coordination, mechanics and add clears all in one with a clock. Pressure cooker.
So the ultimate goal is to bank XX amount of resonance and the bullet points to doing so are: 1. Hydras open doors 2. Open doors lead to overloads 3. Overloads spawn tormentors 4. Tormentors activate plates 5. Plates spawn resonance 6. Obelisk turns off plates (and I'm assuming both being turned off is what spawns the chest to deposit????) 7. Depositing resonance extends timer/eventually ends encounter Is that all correct? Thanks for the guide, actually very well laid-out!
Clarification : All players return to the centre, and kill the Harbinger. This closes all side doors and spawns another Resonant Chest, where you can dunk all your Pyramidal Resonance. Each resonance you dunk increases the Final Shape Looms wipe timer by 20 seconds, up to a cap of 3m20s total (10 Resonance). After a short while, you start again at Phase 1. You don't need to dunk a specific amount of Resonance to finish. You might have to dunk at least 1 per cycle, though this hasn't been confirmed. The dunks are mainly for the wipe timer. The encounter is always 3 cycles, when you dunk for the 3rd time the encounter ends and you can continue to next traversal.
Good explanation. Got a little muddled when you started explaining the plate mechanic though. You started out saying you need TWO people to manage plate. Then jumped and said 4 people need to manage and get essence and step on plate. Was a little confusing. But overall the most comprehensive and concisely explained guide I have seen and EARLY.
One thing I’ve noticed while playing is that after the second tormenter, the glowing plates will always be in the third room that your team visited, and then the second plate is in the room AFTER that room if you had continued in the loop into a fourth room. That also means that you could big brain it and right when you see the supplicants coming out of the rooms, you know exactly where everything will happen in that phase
I knew we were doing this so wrong. We had the general idea of what is going on just not the timing of everything. Man this is an awesome encounter! Shit I haven’t even seen the 2nd one I’m hyped!
After the 1st tormentor the 1st team can technically start their plate mechanic if your team is coordinated enough. We were getting enough at about 1 min and pushing our timer to max about everything. The 1st team gets done super fast and can help with ad clear.
Really found helpful and clear explanations thanks for putting it together so Quick Look forward to the others and the link going into our Discord clan help section as a guide hope thats ok
something to note is that if the light is at your plate, there will be a ring around the plate that shrinks very fast and plays a sound if you didn't see it go into the plate you can use that as a quick heads up that oh, i need to step on it
3:51 that is not always the case. A few times, we've had both plates spawn in/by rooms just one team cleared, leaving the other team wondering where their plates are.
My team thought that you HAD to spawn the subjugators in order to spawn the resonance. During our clear we ended up killing a total of 17 of them, 3 per cycle per side (except just 1 on 3rd cycle) and 3 in the middle.
Killing just the adds doesn't spawn the hydra, the *non* overload minotaur's spawn a hydra for the other group. This minotaur is almost always in the 2nd room, so its good to have a player rush it and nuke it so the other team gets the hydra asap. This will speed up the rooms greatly.
We only pinged it twice per team and that’s enough to spawn in all the resonance. As a cost tho you have to let the subjugator spawn in so that u can collect the resonance. Then activate the conduits.
1st encounter definetly set the tone of the raid. Day 1 no good, today was abble to do It, after like 8 hours and sevaral LFG teams. But day 1 blind was fun, we just didn't figure out how to close the pillar.
So what I’m getting is: Do loop twice to kill tormentors to get plates to work Ping pong energy back and forth to spawn resonance and pick them up On 4th pong before stepping on plate shut off pillar. Kill Subjugator. Dunk, repeat. You said everyone needed to get at least 3, does that mean everyone in the fire team?
That's what I was wondering, but I did see in the video that the middle add clear got them in the corners, so I'm guessing that they get them when plats do their job. I could be tong tho!
So in order to close the plate we need to shoot it while its being sent back to us, then catch it and it closes it. GOT IT. I was so confused on this part. Ty
I’m confused. You only said 3 people would get 3 essences, where are the other 3 players getting theirs from if only 3 spawn per plate? Floater is getting mid essences, will more than 3 spawn on plates?
Damn... we had been standing on the plate then shooting the conductor to close it. This made it close on the second time shooting it and watsing a lot of time
Nice guide, question to anyone who is reading this, is there a pattern to spawning more essence in one bounce? Our team was under the impression that letting the plate charge for a bit (so it glows brighter before stepping on it, but not waiting too long where it overloads and breaks causing the subjugator to spawn) should spawn more. Either in your room or where you are sending it. Are we on the right path? Because we’ve had it a few times from one bounce it will spawn 3 essence all at once.
I think it always spawns three. It’s just smart to ping pong it more than once because picking up tree resonances in the time frame of one ping pong can be pretty tight
So I have yet to hear anyone say anything about this but my team also learned the hydras that open the pathways between rooms do not auto spawn they are spawned when the opposite team kills a regular minotaur and we did testing on multiple tries to confirm it but I can confirm killing the regular minotaur on team A will spawn team B gatekeeper
Is it correct that the glowing plates will be in the third room each team cleared before killing the second tormentor? Or are the glowing plates always in the rooms where the overloads are killed?
bungie was not lying when they said they busted out the hardest raid yet
Love it. Everyone moaned about nez being easy, and now it's all surprised pikacuh faces 😂
@@ByronEdwards-hz2iq I sure wasnt one of the "everyone" i got a good nights sleep with 5 mins left.
11 hours in and we never completed the 1st encounter lol edit: came back today after a rest and finished 1st encounter but we didn't even attempt any after that
Same
yeah it was fucked up
wait for tomorrow for More guides and tips and save your energy for tomorrow imo
Same it is a hell of a puzzle and we got most of it down but just couldn't figure out what we were doing wrong got to dunks a few times but it was never enough time gained
This isn't the contest mode raid y'all think it is. The best of the best team have been stuck on 4th encounter for 10 hours. Just wait until it's not contest anymore. Not worth it unless you're the 1%.
Thx for the guide. And thx for the quality editing. Alot of guides are just explanations with background play of someone not even doing the mechanics that they're talking about. Dig the map and the pauses to show the "conductor" and others. I dig quick & concise guides like these. Thx & will share to clan discord
No one else has posted a guide yet. Teams just post their first clear of each encounter and then upload a guide after the raid.
Also worth noting about the rooms that open: they're always rooms next to eachother. So if someone is going into the room on the right, then the upper right or lower right room will also be open.
Helps save a few seconds
For a ''PvP'' player, that was clearly explain! Awesome raid mechanics video! Thanks!
Damn! This guide made this encounter feel easier than how others have explained it.
cannot relate
I really hope you make guides for all the raid encounters, because this was an amazing guide well explained, great edits to show all the important stuff, thank you very much T V
good to see my map is being used!!!!
Thanks for your contribution!
One thing i dont understand here; after we kill tormentor 2nd time, ping poing plates will appear, how do people know where will they spawn and who to go on what plate?
@@Calaman228 one will glow orange, and the other will have an open pylon next to it, keep an eye out when you do the second runaround!
@@haileyredrix3102 i know how mechanic works but how do you know in which room they will glow for you to stand? Do these plates glow in rooms right before you kill 2nd tormentor?
@@Calaman228 i believe so? i think from what i know its usually the one where the overloads spawn?
so glad you got a chance to get a good video out before cross drops like 5 videos of just gameplay. quality video
One plate actually lights up for each tormentor you kill, so one team can start pinging the resonance back and forth early. If each team of 3 has a thunderlord and tether you can easily kill the second tormentor with just 3 and let the first plate team focus on their loop.
You can kill the tormentor with almost any light machine gun and damaging abilities, no need to waste an exotic slot
@@SuperRONDALE thunderlord was goated for first encounter, good for tormentors, good for ads and overload. not a waste of an exotic slot
@@SuperRONDALEDefinitely not a waste, for the most part this encounter is all about staying alive and killing everything. Machine guns in general are great for this encounter. Throwing on Tlord sounds perfect for this. I used Tractor on Tormentor and he got melted in seconds every time.
People need to realize that thunderlord is a great exotic, when you’re not using it for dps like a bot. It’s a machine gun and a damn good one when you’re using it for adds and beefy targets like tormentors, like you should.
Commemoration with Reconstruction + Killing Tally put in work for me. Ran it with Izinagi's with a teammate running Div
im not doing contest mode, im waiting for tomorrow to play the normal version, and this video helps a lot
all other videos had no comms, no explanation at all
One of the best and thorough guides I’ve seen for a raid encounter. Hope there’s more for the remaining encounters. Thanks!
Please do the other encounters. This was probably the best guide compared to everyone else's
Best and clearest guide I’ve seen man. You should make them for the other encounters for sure!
By far best video on TH-cam , now we need all encounters
Great job getting the guide out so quick. Very clear as someone who watched but couldn't hear comms and didn't really understand what triggered what.
This is a very thorough and well put together guide TV. You should definitely do more of them.
you had the best explanation of the closing off conductor mechanic. thanks
One of the best explanations ive seen. Thankyou
Awesome video. Explained the mechanics in a clear and concise way. Greatly appreciated!! Pleaseee make a guide to the second and third encounters 😊
Please keep making guides!!!!! Your have been nothing but great!
Awesome guide. By far the most comprehensive out there, thanks TV.
literally the only good video explaining this encounter, thank you
We were able to figure out most of the encounter, but this helped to clarify what we were missing.
I am also tsking your tip of Ground team and Basement/Attic Team.
Hey, this guide is extremely well done. As clear and concise as it needs to be. I'd love for you to continue with this kind of stuff!
Unfortunately its for the only encounter I've already finished and know the mechanics haha
Wow great guide TV... very informative and easy to understand, I would recommend it to others. You should keep doing occasional pve content 👌
I really appreciate the clear and concise explanations. Great video.
Yes...this is the most concise how to raid mechanics video. More please
Great guide! Hope you’re doing all the encounters, very helpful!
Wonderful guide! Thanks, TV! Keep them coming, my friend, and appreciate what you do
Concise description of this encounter, even after contest mode this is going to break a lot of teams. Coordination, mechanics and add clears all in one with a clock. Pressure cooker.
Excellent narration and explanation! Clear, thorough and concise. Thank you!
So the ultimate goal is to bank XX amount of resonance and the bullet points to doing so are:
1. Hydras open doors
2. Open doors lead to overloads
3. Overloads spawn tormentors
4. Tormentors activate plates
5. Plates spawn resonance
6. Obelisk turns off plates (and I'm assuming both being turned off is what spawns the chest to deposit????)
7. Depositing resonance extends timer/eventually ends encounter
Is that all correct? Thanks for the guide, actually very well laid-out!
Great job TV explaining a complex opening encounter!
Clarification :
All players return to the centre, and kill the Harbinger. This closes all side doors and spawns another Resonant Chest, where you can dunk all your Pyramidal Resonance. Each resonance you dunk increases the Final Shape Looms wipe timer by 20 seconds, up to a cap of 3m20s total (10 Resonance). After a short while, you start again at Phase 1.
You don't need to dunk a specific amount of Resonance to finish. You might have to dunk at least 1 per cycle, though this hasn't been confirmed. The dunks are mainly for the wipe timer.
The encounter is always 3 cycles, when you dunk for the 3rd time the encounter ends and you can continue to next traversal.
Thanks ! 😊
if you are running out of time on third run of ping pong , can you end it earlier ? since all you need to do is dunk into the center room chest.
@@siongyigan7696 a bit late of a reply but yes. You don't need 3 stacks on your last cycle. It's always 3 cycles.
Excellent guide! I would absolutely watch more PVE guides from you, TV.
Definitely need vids for the other encounters! This video was very helpful and well made 💯🔥
Great video well explained! Can't wait for the rest of the encounters. Love the whisky channel also!
First time I ever watched a video and now I know the exact mechanic, all I need is to get in there and see the layout now to separate the teams
Everyone: “Ping pong is hard enough.”
Witness: “Hold my beer.”
Good explanation. Got a little muddled when you started explaining the plate mechanic though. You started out saying you need TWO people to manage plate. Then jumped and said 4 people need to manage and get essence and step on plate. Was a little confusing. But overall the most comprehensive and concisely explained guide I have seen and EARLY.
2 teams of 2, four plates total and one person for each plate. Then 2 floaters.
One thing I’ve noticed while playing is that after the second tormenter, the glowing plates will always be in the third room that your team visited, and then the second plate is in the room AFTER that room if you had continued in the loop into a fourth room. That also means that you could big brain it and right when you see the supplicants coming out of the rooms, you know exactly where everything will happen in that phase
Tv, this video did really well. I think you should do this for every encounter!
Great guide. Please keep them coming!
An actual good guide. This took my team 8 hours
Continue with these guides brother this will help very much!
I knew we were doing this so wrong. We had the general idea of what is going on just not the timing of everything. Man this is an awesome encounter! Shit I haven’t even seen the 2nd one I’m hyped!
I thought that this was a great guide and explained very well, thank you TV!
Great guide! Have not gotten the TFS yet but I am surely taking notes!
great guide! timely too! thanks for your dedication for the world!
After the 1st tormentor the 1st team can technically start their plate mechanic if your team is coordinated enough. We were getting enough at about 1 min and pushing our timer to max about everything. The 1st team gets done super fast and can help with ad clear.
Got recommended to your channel during the competition mode* great video my friend
Edit:typo
Great explanation!! Very clear on what to do.
This guide convinced me to sub to you! Please do more for further encounters
Trying tomorrow
Good tip buddy
Raising a nice Westwood for that (literal) last second clear 😊
So well explained, good stuff TV
Very clear and informative TV!!
I can see why many racers were stuck here, but thanks for the guide.
Really found helpful and clear explanations thanks for putting it together so Quick Look forward to the others and the link going into our Discord clan help section as a guide hope thats ok
Well done guide! I prefer this to Khakis and Fallout's guides.
AMAZING GUIDE! appreciate it! since Destiny1 your a GOAT
Amazing vid. Very clear instructions too
painful to see this video, because it confirms my team had it all figured out, just couldnt pull it off
something to note is that if the light is at your plate, there will be a ring around the plate that shrinks very fast and plays a sound if you didn't see it go into the plate you can use that as a quick heads up that oh, i need to step on it
Very well laid out. Thank you! ❤
I’m not good enough for contest on this but can’t wait to dive in after contest, this one looks like it’s gonna be a blast
Thank you for the guide!
Great video with excellent Tips.
You made it sound so easy. GG!
We did this for 6 hours, figured out how to do it, but half of us never raided before and did not have the equipment for this lol. It was fun tho!
Thank you TV this was very easy to understand!
3:51 that is not always the case. A few times, we've had both plates spawn in/by rooms just one team cleared, leaving the other team wondering where their plates are.
Great video, please make a full raid with all in 5 Encounters
Nice guide i love it.. i wait for the other encounter. Pls hurry up 😅
My team thought that you HAD to spawn the subjugators in order to spawn the resonance. During our clear we ended up killing a total of 17 of them, 3 per cycle per side (except just 1 on 3rd cycle) and 3 in the middle.
Great guide thank you so much
Strand Titan with Severance Enclosure is amazing for this encounter
Killing just the adds doesn't spawn the hydra, the *non* overload minotaur's spawn a hydra for the other group. This minotaur is almost always in the 2nd room, so its good to have a player rush it and nuke it so the other team gets the hydra asap. This will speed up the rooms greatly.
Bro, you really do love this auto rifle😆👍
Thanks! It’s a hard one on day one
We only pinged it twice per team and that’s enough to spawn in all the resonance. As a cost tho you have to let the subjugator spawn in so that u can collect the resonance. Then activate the conduits.
Great explanation!
I'm pretty sure the glowing plate always appears in the rooms where the teams overloads were killed
Thank you so much for the guide!
1st encounter definetly set the tone of the raid. Day 1 no good, today was abble to do It, after like 8 hours and sevaral LFG teams. But day 1 blind was fun, we just didn't figure out how to close the pillar.
Best guide! thank you
Great guide. Thanks
So what I’m getting is:
Do loop twice to kill tormentors to get plates to work
Ping pong energy back and forth to spawn resonance and pick them up
On 4th pong before stepping on plate shut off pillar.
Kill Subjugator.
Dunk, repeat.
You said everyone needed to get at least 3, does that mean everyone in the fire team?
That's what I was wondering, but I did see in the video that the middle add clear got them in the corners, so I'm guessing that they get them when plats do their job. I could be tong tho!
So in order to close the plate we need to shoot it while its being sent back to us, then catch it and it closes it. GOT IT. I was so confused on this part. Ty
Great guide!
TV, great guide
is there any way of knowing exactly where the starting plate will be or is it just always back track to look for it cuz that always irritates me
What causes hydras to spawn? We had insances where a second hydra had a delayed spawn in a room and would mess up the flow.
First plate is always where first overlord spawn
I’m confused. You only said 3 people would get 3 essences, where are the other 3 players getting theirs from if only 3 spawn per plate? Floater is getting mid essences, will more than 3 spawn on plates?
Damn... we had been standing on the plate then shooting the conductor to close it. This made it close on the second time shooting it and watsing a lot of time
Nice guide, question to anyone who is reading this, is there a pattern to spawning more essence in one bounce?
Our team was under the impression that letting the plate charge for a bit (so it glows brighter before stepping on it, but not waiting too long where it overloads and breaks causing the subjugator to spawn) should spawn more. Either in your room or where you are sending it. Are we on the right path? Because we’ve had it a few times from one bounce it will spawn 3 essence all at once.
I think it always spawns three. It’s just smart to ping pong it more than once because picking up tree resonances in the time frame of one ping pong can be pretty tight
So I have yet to hear anyone say anything about this but my team also learned the hydras that open the pathways between rooms do not auto spawn they are spawned when the opposite team kills a regular minotaur and we did testing on multiple tries to confirm it but I can confirm killing the regular minotaur on team A will spawn team B gatekeeper
Is it correct that the glowing plates will be in the third room each team cleared before killing the second tormentor? Or are the glowing plates always in the rooms where the overloads are killed?
Overloads killed is the sending plate
TV - this is amazing content. More pve guides please.