Our DIY Full Suspension Mini Bike is FINISHED! | SIMPLE Mini Dirt Bike Pt. 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Our custom mini bike build is finished! We built a full suspension mini bike from scratch in just a few days, and it's ready for a ride! In today's episode, we build a swing arm, build brackets for our front brake, mount the fuel tank, seat, engine, exhaust, and everything else we need to ride this 212cc mini bike!
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Shock: the shock we ordered and set the bike up for was very poor quality. When we find a new one, this link will be updated in a newer episode.
We used a fuel tank from a Honda Z50R, we used 1.25" tubing 0.083 wall for the upper frame rail, and 1" tubing 0.083 wall for the rest of the chassis (the build isn't completed yet but we wished we had used a slightly thinner wall tubing).
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Im gonna keep this going....john vs ike build off 2021 needs to happen. Complete from scratch,ground up build. Lets make it happen. (Edit) and yes i know ike is better at this or that...but isnt it about the journey and not the finish?
Yes this is a good idea
I second this motion
I third this motion
Nah I feel it would be one sided with ike as the winner
That's going to be like a year long challenge then lol
We use rubber spacers like your engine mounts in HVAC on electric motors. They come in a variety of stiffness levels so you should be able to find a more suitable one with searching. Mason Industries is the brand we use most
That spring was made for a wal-mart special youth mountain bike lol.
The “Magna” perhaps
Ronda is a disgrace 😂 I was thinking the entire time about how I saw a mountain bike with that shock on it smh
It bent so easily, was it made from mild steel instead of spring steel?
Yeah real special youth
In the words of ike it'll be fine I ride a walmart mt bike with that shock and it holds my 265lbs fat ass... Lol
"It'll be deadly for a different reason," while I'm over here remembering Ike going arse over teakettle with a 70mph mower.
Helmets, lads!
Love the constant uploads guys keep it up.
Agree
It looks like a sexy classic from back in the day.... I'd call it Jane Honda. 😁
I second that
Except that Jane Fonda is a traitor. Nothing should be named after "Hanoi Jane".
@@bradleyj.fortner2203 i second that. 🇺🇸
wow I cringed every time they welded over top of that car battery!😳 Bike is looking great. 👍🏻👍🏻
Why?
Its not full of C4. It's full of water.
Dont need a metal frame sliding around on top of a car battery.....
Get a Fox air shock, I bet Issac's brother has one in his bike shop..
Fox shock won't fix the problem... their problem is that they have designed a falling rate suspension. They could support the weight with a air shock... but the design is very flawed. The mount on the fame needs to be moved ahead (but the frame is in the way) or the mount on the swing arm needs to be moved back.
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@@Hitycooking This is a pretty pathetic way of getting views on your video.
@@JoelArseneaultTH-cam Immaterial provided the shock spring is strong enough.
They had a longer swingarm with the usual shock angle in mind, but that swing arm proportion made the bike look goofy. The new mount will be fine for all intents and purposes, with a stronger shock.
@@SportbikerNZ I'm not sure what you are trying to say ... If you are trying to say that this is not important if they have a stronger spring.... then 1. You are wrong and 2. Maybe you didn't read my whole comment ?
You are even more wrong if you are saying that this happened because they shortened the swingarm? The swing arm is a lever acting against the shock and the longer it is the more easily it will compress the shock.
I don't know how I can explain it more simply ... but "all intents and purposes" ... If by that you mean it will move up and down ... then yes... If the intent and purpose is to soften the ride and add an element of control .... it will "work" but it will never work well.
In order to make this "work" , they will have to make it really stiff at the start of the travel. Generally suspension runs with some sag to allow the wheel to move freely. This design will mean that they have to drastically limit or eliminate sag (by going stiff) and if they are going through a dip, like going through the stream area, and hit a bump / rock while the suspension is already slightly compressed, the force will have a tendency to blow through the remaining travel and bottom out easily.
The suspension that they have designed is like using a torque wrench that is 100cm long to do the first step of torquing a bolt, a 50cm to do the second stage and using a 10cm one to do the final torquing. It might work... but it won't work well.
I knew that the seat was going to be a problem with the straight backbone , it should have been curled down about 15 degrees that way the springer seat could be used .
Been saying that since last week 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
Its a flat tracker now!
Oh even how it was I figured out a way they could have used the springer seat
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@@brianhardy6084 Don't you know these vids come out weeks after filmed??
the C&C special sounds like a great name for the build
For the Shock problem, you could get a mountain bike air shock that way you could get it exactly where you want the spring rate and rebound.
Great idea, I suggest using 2 because an air shock won't handle that much weight before you start blowing seals!
John + ike = jike. Lol.. And its a mini, so I guess its called a Mini Jike!
I think the pull cover should just be solid black but other than that it looks sick👌
maybe paint the torque converter cover too
Yes your consistancy is not going unnoticed 👍🏻Out of CarsandCameras, RatherBWelding, Grind Hard Plumbing Co. And RBG, YOU GUYS are my favorite by far. Keep it up💪 Edit:(how could i forget Vasily🤦♂️)
They have the personalities, chemistry, and charisma. The fab skills and engineering are improving. They're just more entertaining.
Vasily Builds is also very good. He has stellar welding, fabricating, and designing skills, and makes some monster machines. He doesn't have a glib sidekick though.
I was gonna say vasily builds also!! That kids is good. Dont forget motocheeze!! He dont build per say.. i mean he does and he doesn’t but the man makes good videos!
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I dont know how this just popped in my head but check out mike festiva!!!!. Dude makes really neat stuff!! Articulating, 6x6’s. Etc!! Great fabricator
The backbone/top tube could curve down and you’d still room for the Springer seat. But if the rear ended is sprung I’m not sure you’d need it.
That's exactly what I was thinking
Great bike guys! Easter is on the way call it the thunder bunny!! Lol
If you ever watched the show Futurama, call it "Scooty Puff Jr. The Doombringer"
Malfador. Good name. Great show thanks for sharing.
Being that this is like a bootleg Honda mini bike that actually has a gas tank that says Honda my vote is in for calling it HONDO.
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I think it should be HONDON'T
I request you guys build a special Cars and Cameras flavored Honda Ruckus. I've been keeping an OG Ruckus alive for 5 years, and would like to see what you can do with one. Anyway keep up the good work. Thanks
The mini mayhem for the name of the new bike. :)
Hey guys nice video. Man the mini bike is coming along nicely. I think it should be called fronda for Franken Honda can't wait to see it rip up the grand prix track and see what time it can put down. Well take care guys stay safe and god bless you and your families. Peace out.
You should post a link to the shock so we can avoid them
ike, ya need a bigger shock, maybe off of a 350 Honda or bigger.
Name it the C&C Special!! Cars and Cameras special!
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@@Hitycooking pathetic
When you mount a shock make sure the lower shock mount move toward the rear axle. That gives the swing arm less leverage. The way the shock was mounted made the suspension regressive.
Awesome guys! Can’t wait for the test ride, oh, and the new rear shock!
That bike came out sweet. Can’t wait to see it run and jump
Fenders, guys. Unless you LIKE having a 2 foot long mud streak up your backs.
Look at these guys! Calipers, water jet cutter. The build quality you guys have now has gone quite up since the early days!
I want to see mad wheelies on the 750 4 wheeler.
I think you should just put the rear shock mount closer to the wheel, maybe re-make the swing arm (with bender to make it beautiful), this way you will have a bit less travel but with a similar shock it should work great. Look for similar mountain bike shock (gas is good)
just wanted to say i love your guys awesome youtube videos your so original and great and the fact you constantly post is very appreciated during covid
Probably gonna need a spring-loaded tensioner to take up the slack from the engine vibration. Hopefully, it's short enough you won't need it.
Loving the bike. Looks like it's gona be loads of fun.
100 percent honesty here, those motor mounts will tear the first or second ride you take on that with heavy throttle. They typically dont last very long on our water pumps and generators just from pull starting them. I love the thought behind it. The only thing you could really do to get rid of vibration is to make rubber bushings for your handlebars and seat.
"i wouldn't be gettin it from the internet" 🤣😂
Isn't ordering stuff from GPS 'the internet' 🤔
John: discovers splatter paint
Also John: let’s splatter paint EVERYTHING!!
Sweet!
Pretty cool, the front end looks like a mini Wideglide lol.. :)
yess sirrrr, what ive been waiting forrrr
You guys finally have a table and a vise! I'm proud of you 2
Come on guys... naming this bike is so obvious
It should be called Fonda of course!
As in, Peter Fonda, from the iconic movie Easy Rider!
Yep the spring I've locktighted another threaded lock collar on mine which holds the spring collar tight together with the original one .great progress guys
"Franken Mini" because it's a frankenstein build of a mini bike
put an air shock on the back with the adjustable rebound etc. would make it so you can fine tune to each person and you could lower or raise the back to level! great work guys this things really coming together!
i have never clicked faster in my life
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@@Hitycooking pathetic soul you have
@@Hitycooking i know what you did with a grafiy link so you get my ip lol
When doing a lead in, it’s best to start in the center of the hole and then have it arc (like a circle not electricity) into the circle for the hole, that way the pierce doesn’t deform the circle and it’s a smoother transition than a line into a circle
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The DONNA mini DINGLE... Thanks for the entertainment, Gentleman. Much love
Why is John always so concerned about finishing everything so quickly
I’m not sure but i see it as well
side effect of being flat rate
It's not abad thing to not be lazy and waste time
To get content out on schedule most likely
@@dahaterzzzz but there not on a schedule.There making videos on go carts.Its not rocket science.I know they want to put videos on utube at certain times but they just gotta film each thing they do for longer,meaning more content.That way your not uploading stuff u did the same day.Always have at least one show of back up footage if not more.
Red Rambler because of the gas tank and it kinda looks like a rambler - just an idea🤔
Making big guys look good on small bikes since 2021 🛵
That bike is definitely a ronda😂
DIYonda would be a nice name for the bike
I like how this mini-bike build looks more like a small dirt bike versus the usual fat-tire mini-bikes. Those tend to get a little old after a while. :)
A good fix for the rubber mount problem is adding a top mount. If you can get that rubber as well, it'll secure it a lot better but it won't stop the vibration isolation.
That's a nice cross fire pro ''teabull ''you guys got ha ha ha.
If you rotate that rear lower shock mount so it’s pointing more towards the rear tyre. It’ll help stop the spring pivot point from over-centring. Which is what is happening and why it feels like it goes softer at the lower end of the travel.
If that doesn’t help enough you could lower the top mount town the frame a touch. Or even notch the frame so the shock points toward the engine a little more.
Definitely needs some kind of higher quality mountain bike shock but shouldn’t be too hard to find on eBay etc with the same eye to eye length and a stiffer spring.
Isiac you are just incredibly ENTHUSIASTIC about the whole build actually you seemed fine up until Jon said scratch that 3 hour swing arm lol
I think you should tarmac a road on the property. Have a drag strip
Rotate that top shock mount around 45° or find a stiffer shock. We love this kind of content! 👌
Iam ready to see the first ride on that thing looks fun
Ronda the mini Honda is the perfect name for her
They have used the name Rhonda, already. How about Wanda?
Always loving the content! Just a thought, might also be overkill, but would an extra 2 solid engine mounts help slap bang in the middle of the 4 rubber mounts? Make them a bit shorter than the rubber mounts, hopefully you'd be able to tighten it down a bit more too?
Should have tried using some old hockey pucks as engine mounts
Ive used hockey pucks on a snowmobile before and it failed. However it was on one mount out of the 4 and it’s literally around 5 times the power. Buttttt it might work just right on that motor man!!
@@2StrokeSmoke544 yea your situation sounds wildly different than theirs but hockey pucks sound 100x better and cheaper than those wobbly things they have now lol
Call it James the mini 🤟🏽
Tillonda , Tillotson + Honda = Tillonda
Glad to see you got the plasma cutter bed fixed. :3
Mad Max is what you should call the bike. Totally looks like something from there.
Hockey pucks make great isolators. They're super stiff so they don't move around a lot, but do well for damping out vibration
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Y’all should post Monday-Wednesday-Friday we all want that
Put a bend in the top tube right behind the tank so that it curves down to the back upright. This will give you the clearance for the travel you need to keep the springs and thus the comfort of the seat.
Mona Mini Moto for a name. As for antivibe engine mounts Large plate compacters have great sizes of mounts and last years so go that way. Also make a top engine mount where the tank bolted on brace across to tabs mount in the middle She will be TIGHT
One of your future video projects should be to build a mini bike lift table for building future bikes. Your plasma cutter could make some cool parts for it and it would not only benefit you guys but also subscribers who want to build the same thing and get off the shop floor.
You need to make a collar that silde up over the lower section of the front fork. That bracket you made needs another point or you will snap those upper screws when you get on the front brakes hard.
I was thinking the same thing, a lot of torque on that long bracket.
the long awaited vice thats actually bolted to a workbench 🤣👍
Honda + Tillotson? Tilly bike? Great vids!!
You should call it the mini monster
Keep up the good work guys
No they're awesome episode guys love it keep it up you guys are doing an awesome job
You guys have inspired me to make my own minibike from scratch! The build's coming along great, it looks great! Keep up the good work!
It should be named Shawty... It's small, but it has all the right features!
You guys give this old mechanic hope!
Put a brace on the top of the engine. Like a leaf spring shackle. So it’ll move, but be on a single plane and not solidly mounted
I love this built
I saw you bounce on it once in one of the bouncers that you did completely collapsed it it's like it release pressure when you did it I saw it happen What go back and watch your footage and you'll notice when it happens it looks like it's just a mountain bike shock anyways definitely should upgrade that shot guys it's coming along you do a wonderful job I love watching your content
Coil bind is the word you were looking for. Was thinking you could bend top frame tube down on a 20 deg angle or so to get seat how ya wanted it. pretty cool though
Keep em coming
Hardtail and couple small shocks in place of seat springs would make a pretty smooth rider.
Those rubber engine isolators that you bought will work just fine if you cut the thickness down to about a half inch to 3/4 of an inch. If you do that and tighten the bolts down really good the motor will not move enough to let the chain pop off but it will still isolate the vibrations giving you a smoother ride then without!!
Nice bike stav kendal uk 10 out of 10
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I STILL recommend frame gussets if you are gonna do any jumping with this fine scooter ! Jeb from Texas
I second the swamp donkey. Love that
I think you need to call your minibike build patriot for all your supporters thanks for the video really cool build 👍🇺🇸❔
Hey dudes I think Donna needs wider more balloon off-road type tires on her should look a lot better that way
They wanted to use pitbike tires
For a better rubber mount, you might want to look at something like a BMW E30 transmission mount. The rubber will be a lot stiffer and might just drop into what you already made.
CC Rider Numero uno !! it'll be a collectors item one day
Looks like a mini Honda dominator 650 scrambler! I want one!