Simple Way to Improve Live Stream Audio (Aux & Bus Mixes)
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- In this video, we share how to use aux or bus mixes to improve your live stream audio. No new equipment needed. No extra volunteers needed. All you need is the simple strategy.
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You might have mentioned this in the comments, but i did not see it on the video. On an X32, in order to pan things in your live stream mix, the easiest way to do that is to select a channel and click on the Sends button, and use the buttons to see the sends used for your live stream (I usually use buses 11 and 12 personally). Then the knob for bus 11 is the volume and the knob for bus 12 is the panning. Do this for each channel you want to pan. Keep the kick, snare, bass, and lead vocal in the center. Generally, I don't pan anything too hard to the left or right, but pan like instruments opposite each other (Acoustic guitar a bit to one side and electric guitar a bit to the other for example). Another consideration when mixing audio for video is to pan things according to how they are set up on stage. This is important to people watching your live stream on a big home theater system so your eyes and ears don't have to completely suspend disbelief with each other to stay functional.
Thanks! Great tip. I actually have a video coming out in the next few weeks that walks through how to do exactly what you just explained. :)
Quick question why pan? New to this?
I mean I'm new to this...sorry
Wish you would do the same video for an Allen & Heath SQ6.
SQ content coming soon.
@@collabworshipany chance it’s soon yet? If not, is it possible that soon will come in the next 2 weeks? 😊
@@diamondjake It's out! collaborateworship.com/sq-mastery/
Your a blessing to the kingdom of God 🙏🏽🏁
Thanks for the kind words!
Hi Kade,
This is very useful information. Thank you very much.
this is simple and awesome - thanks Kade! Do you have anything to help set up the routing for the livestream output to the Aux 5&6 RCA jacks on the back of the X32?
What about Us, Analog users 😢 This is the video i was looking for. But how do i do what you did on an Analog mixer ??
You can use an Aux Mix on your analog mixer with the same pre/post-fader setup mentioned in this video.
I tried an aux mix which was a lot better than using the main outs but it’s not stereo… I plugged a mic cord from the aux out on the mixer to my focusrite 2i2 but only get sound on one side 🤷🏽♂️
In my experience with mixing in local houses of worship and live streaming, the auditorium mix and live mix can bed vastly different due to 3 major factors. 1. Room acoustics, 2. consistency of the worship band, 3. an experienced FOH tech. In other words, if the auditorium has good acoustical treatment, the band is well practiced, and the front of house person is good at what they do, the mix from FOH can produce a good live stream (set-up as you suggested) sound.
I have tried setting up (mostly) static aux mixes for a live stream mix as you have suggested, but found that without the 3 factors I mentioned earlier being in place, the live mix must be monitored and mixed live.
Great point. That's why, with the setup outlined in the video, you still have the ability to customize the live stream. For example, we have to bring the drums up in the livestream because of the acoustical energy in the room.
Hello brother kade, in this video you tackle about bus streaming setup, can you do another on how to EQ and Comp, bus streaming
Here's a video on live stream compression: th-cam.com/video/Jp4wY8G9Kcg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=CollaborateWorship
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Great video and so well put together so it is easy to follow.
Thanks Scott!
Im using a DAW to mix our Livestream. Works well for me.
just sharing hehe😊
Awesome! There are several great ways to mix a live stream. The right solution will depend on the resources (equipment and volunteers) you have available. Glad to hear the DAW solution is working well!
thankyou! ima supporter of your videos🙏🏻
Thank u
My church is a small church, we are live streaming worship music and service via Facebook using an iPhone. It would be great if you could do a video or explain the best way to connect the phone to our Behringer x32.
I have an adapter that plugs into my iPhone on one end and is female male 3.5 TRRS on the other end.
In addition I have a 40’ cable 3.5 male on one end and RCA red/white on the other…any input or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Blessings 😊
Hey Myron - Best solution is to get an audio interface for your iPhone, like this one: imp.i114863.net/5byoX3
My question is about routing.. how do I get this mix into my streaming software?? OBS etc...
Hey Jason - You'll route your bus mixes to two open outputs on your mixer. Then connect those to an audio interface (e.g. Scarlet 2i2) that is connected to your live stream computer.
@@collabworship do you have a video about this? This is my question also. Thanks!
@@jonathancardenas5252 We do not currently have a video on this. But will add it to the list of videos to create. Thanks!
@@collabworship how do I rout our 2 mix busses to the 2 open outputs on our mixer?
Man this is so educating. It really helped me a lot to understand about this. But I'm having a problem with our mixer, because we have qsc - 30 pro. I don't know what to do
I've not used your mixer before, but you should be able to accomplish what is explained in this video. You'll just have to find those channels/settings on your mixer. Keep in mind, bus mixes might be called aux mixes on your mixer.
@@collabworship Oh I see!! Thank you so much! this would really helped our church livestream! God bless you! 🙏
Thank you :)
Thanks... how do you send the output from bus 11/12 - live stream bus to the 2nd computer that is only dealing with the live stream?
Analog out on the mixer into a stereo USB audio interface (Scarlet 2i2)
Can't wait to watch it!
This is very helpful
Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!
Do you suppose--is anything like this possible on a PreSonus Studio Live 24.4.2? We have been using an AUX channel to send sound to our livestreaming computer for a while, but I'm not sure how we could get Stereo using Aux channels. Or, indeed, how to turn that Stereo output back to Mono at the computer.
Thanks for a great video (as always) Kade. I have been hanging out for something like this for months. And I am looking forward to the next few which will fill out a little bit of the detail.
I note that near the end of the video you state that "the livestream mix is a reflection of what is going on in the auditorium". Now, I realise that every church situation is unique so here is our twist. Our drums are fully miked, but the levels are very minimal (and only on a couple of pieces) as our sanctuary is very acoustically alive. If we implemented your suggestion as is, then the livestream mix would have a barely audible snare and hi-hat and nothing else. Any suggestions on how can we manage this simply as well? (FYI - we are currently using a BUS for livestream output but on a pre-fade mix, so everything is managed separately to the FOH mix.)
Hey Glenn - In your situation, it might be best to leave your drums as pre-fader. If you have them compressed correctly, you should have to mess with levels much from song-to-song.
@@collabworship Hi Kade. I set this up a couple of weeks ago and generally it work well. Once the FOH was set up, the majority of it came straight through to the Live Stream Mix. A few tweaks here and there for drum and general balance and it was all done.
The real beauty of this is when you need to adjust a vocal mic between singing and speaking, or even just a speaking mic with people talking at different volumes, the the adjustment flow through automatically. Previously I would have had one hand on the FOH mix and another hand on the iPad running the Live Stream Mix and try to balance them separatley but simultaneously. Now if just works together. Big thumbs up for your help.
I'm now looking forward to bringing in the other elements you've been talking about recently. Thanks Kade. 👍
@@glenndixon5370 Great to hear. Thank you!
So I would need to get a double xlr to a USB cable right?
Yes, using an audio interface to convert xlr to USB. Or you can use the USB card on your mixer if it's available.
How should I add effects only for the live stream? Every time I try to add effects in the live stream, I have to unmute the in house mix in order to work. If I mute the effects in the house mix and hit send on faders, click on live stream faders and unmute effects that doesn't works.
To take the FX out of your house mix, select each FX return and disable in the Stereo and Mono bus using the two buttons to the left of the X32's screen.
@@collabworship will try this Kade. Thanks for the prompt response
I don’t know if this works on the X32. On our Allen & Heath GLD-80, we have a send/return reverb effect dedicated to the stream. We send the input channels to the reverb and return to the stream. We can adjust the send level of each channel independently, as well as the overall reverb level. We also use reverb in the church, but with different parameters.
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all but the pastors mic is set to post fader. what does seting the faders on the live stream mix do? sshouldn't the mix be the same as the main? i dont understand.
Its so that you can adjust volume differences that translate differently over the stream vs in the room.
Thanks that s ver helpful. I am wondering why I still get a mono sound when I link two bus and use a y cable to direct the the pair Estero bus to my computer sound card. Will someone help me with what I am doing wrong? Regardless of how I pan the pair bus.
Hey Gergy - When you use a Y cable, you are taking a stereo signal and combining it into a mono signal. To get a stereo signal, you need to send two signals to your computer (one for the left, and one for the right).
thanks for the super informative video! I'm new to sound and am having trouble adjusting volumes for livestream while the band is playing. We're all in the same room. Any tips on being able to isolate just the live stream without blasting the music in my ears, or is it just something that comes with time, being able to pinpoint whether an instrument I'm hearing while adjusting for livestream is coming from the headphones or bleeding through it?
It will come with time, but as you're getting things dialed in, you can also run a test live stream and go listen to it on another device in another room. Or run a virtual soundcheck and listen to it that way.
@@collabworship thank you!
I have a couple questions that I am currently having some issues with my Church live stream, started streaming through TH-cam
Hey man! Hop into Inner Circle so we can help with your specific issues: collaborateworship.com/inner-circle/
How can I have a stereo live stream where everything I pan reflects in my Livestream?
If using an X32, check out my free live stream course. It will walk you through how to set up a stereo mix. app.churchsoundmadesimple.com/free
This video is great! i just have a quick question. Does your livestream Busses then get sent to Matrix 1 and 2?
Nope. We send thee live stream bus mix straight to the live stream feed.
Thank you for a grate video but, this explanation on this video is a for professionals not for a beginners with bad English. Anyway, thanks again!
This was very helpful. Thanks a bunch!!!Our mix typically sounds hollow and very “individual” for lack of a better term. How do you handle the effects? Do you just allow the house reverb to go through post fader, as well?
Hey Angelo - We have more videos coming over the next couple of weeks that will help with those issues. I'll cover reverb for your live stream, as well as using panning to widen the mix. Keep your eye out! Coming soon.
@@collabworship Whoops. didn't see this. Hopefully my other comment didn't steal your thunder!
No problem thanks uncle
Thank you for your great videos.
I have panning issue with my stream setup. A mono instrument is set 100% to the right and (as expected) I can hear it only on the right side in the FOH mix. I use a linked bus pair for my stream (bus 13 hard left, bus 14 hard right), but the instrument is in that stereo bus in the center and not 100% to the right. The panning information from the input bus is ignored in the stereo output bus. Have you any clues?
By default, buses have their own panning configuration per channel. Select the channel, navigate to the "SENDS" tab and you'll see a panning option there for your live stream busses.
Thank you so much Kade for this video, you just answered something i have been struggling with. i got a question, is EQ necessary for the live stream bus and is precision limiter good to use on the bus or what fx is good to enhance the live stream production
EQ is optional, but there is one filter I recommend: th-cam.com/video/YuE2YBbzcKg/w-d-xo.html
Put the precision limiter on the live stream bus to solve loudness issues. Here's a walkthrough: th-cam.com/video/5jA7-GLzt0M/w-d-xo.html
@@collabworship Thank you so much, i really appreciate
question if i want to rise the volume of the overall live stream mix do i rise the volume of the post fade aux send ?
Thank you so much for the tips. They are of great help.
After this, how can I send my audio via aux cable (3.5mm)?
I plan to use two of the outputs on my mixer (XLR).
You'll want to use a USB audio interface (like the Scarlett 2i2) instead of the 3.5mm jack.
@@collabworship Got you! Thank you so much for responding.
The issue is that my church will be using a device called slingstudio and my team told me that the only way they can receive audio to that device is by getting actual aux (3.5mm) cable from the board to the sling studio.
Any advice?
@@ItzTooSik Gotcha. Just keep the cable as short as possible then.
Do you have available a cheat sheet for the settings mentioned in this video?
We do not have a cheat sheet set up for this video. Sorry, Donald!
How would you use an aux mix for livestream if you have an analog mixer connected to a focusrite 2i2? And only have 4 aux sends; 3 sends in use…
You can get away with one aux. It is just going to be a mono mix instead of stereo. Simply connect your aux output to an input on the focusrite. Then create your mix using the aux send knobs.
@@collabworshipthanks for the info. Using the aux bus sound soooooooooo much better cleaner and richer than using the main out from the mixer! Thanks again!
Hi! This is great!! Can I set up the X32 compact to use 2 busses on 9-16? I currently use bus 5 (6 is physically our sub).
Yep! You can use any of the 16 buses. To link them together, they'll need to be side-by-side and start with an odd number (e.g. Bus 9&10 or Bus 13&14)
Thanks for your videos! Kade, would you run pre or post fader if your pastor is also the future worship leader, talking and singing through one headset mic? That’s my dilemma….
We’re getting a worship band together as we updated our PA with new X32, one line array (yeah, don’t ask, small church, limited selection of PA installers that I wouldn’t choose personally lol) It’s about coverage, not volume……
I’m hoping the pastor will switch off her headset mic and use the beta wireless for vocals when it comes to singing. Right now with no band, she talks and sings (with keys) off the same headset mic. It gets tricky….especially with Fx……
And do I really need 2 mix busses linked for livestream when we only have mono in the sanctuary?
Also, we’re using FB Live with OBS, no interface. We’re running sound out of computer to DI box, one XLR to one channel on X32, 150’ feet away! Couldn’t install board by computers, that’s a different can of worms…..
Hey Terry - I'd have two presets. One for the singing (post-fader) and one for speaking (pre-fader).
@@collabworship well I figured that was how I would handle it. Guess I’ll run the livestream in stereo then. I have the busses available. Thanks for the feedback.
is there a pdf witch I can download with all the steps ? like a step by step instruction.
thx
Hey Waiser - Enrolling in my free course for livestream mixing will help you out. Here's were you can get access: collabwrshp.com/3HJngwy
Do you pan each of the buses L/R?
Is “Church Sound Made Simple” the same as “Collaborative Worship Academy” ?
Hey Jonathan - Collaborate Worship Academy is where we hosted our previous two courses, X32 Mastery and EQ Crash Course. Church Sound Made Simple is our latest training built on a completely custom platform to improve team training and communication. We will eventually move X32 Mastery over to the new platform.
@@collabworship thanks for answering! So if we are interested, we should still start with Collaborative Worship Academy correct!? Just asking because I’m thinking of purchasing it pretty soon with the stimmy stim.
@@jonathancardenas5252 I'd recommend starting with Church Sound Made Simple.
Our livestream mix on the X32 is clipping and distorts very hard, how can that be fixed?
Hard to say without more detail. Is it clipping on the X32's level meters? Or just at the computer?
and after that's done, how to you send your audio out? i use the usb hub on the back of the x32 straight to my streaming computer.. how do you configure the out on the usb
You configure the USB outputs on the Routing -> Card Out tab.
Is it possible, to use an auxiliary from my 16 ch mixing board to one of the inputs on a Presonus Studio 24c, then out to the live stream? Then I'd have control on each channel from my board on their own aux output. That way I could turn up or down each channel to the stream without affecting the mains in the sanctuary. Would it work?? Thanks!
question can you eq your live stream mix
You can EQ the overall mix by EQing the live stream bus.
@@collabworship Is there any way to EQ each channel differently for the house vs live stream? Or would you even recommend bothering with it? If the house mix is good, the live stream should be close enough once you add the High-Shelving Filter you recommend in another video?
@@DaveFormanMusic The only way to have different EQ for the live stream is to duplicate the channel by changing the input source of an open channel and the routing one to the main mix and the other to the live stream. I wouldn't mess with this though. There's a happy place that will work for both the room mix and live stream mix at the same time.
@@collabworship Perfect and thanks! That’s what I figured but wanted to double check. I think I’m still accepting that I will not be able to make the live stream sound as good as being in the room, mainly due to the signal compression. 😁
This has been very helpful. The only problem I am having is that the company who set up our system set us up with a mono ATEM (streaming) bus. I set everything up as you suggested on different stereo bus on another "page". I can't find how to send them to ATEM! Should I just copy and paste my existing ATEM bus to get stereo?
Hey Adem - Are you streaming directly from the ATEM, or are you using OBS or some other software on a computer?
@@collabworship I just run the mixer lol. I know we have ATEM Production studio 4k and black magic video hub and Teradek encoder if any of that tells you anything. I know for a fact it's not OBS though. I can get more info for you if needed.
@@catsockstudio Awesome. For stereo, you'll need to make sure 2 XLR cables are running to the ATEM from the X32. Then, just route these two outputs to your new streaming busses. (Routing -> Outputs)
@@collabworship Ah, thank you! And thank you for always being so responsive to the comments!
@@collabworship We were able to figure out the routing to send my stereo mix bus to ATEM. Every week over the past month I have been able to implement one of your tips to our live stream and have seem exponential improvements week after week. If you wish to hear for yourself how you have helped our church's quality you can see todays stream and compare it to some of our others. Thanks again and I look forward to putting some of your other suggestions to work. th-cam.com/video/gWGg86q8iso/w-d-xo.html
We have the Behringer x32. Do we need a certain level of firmware for this approach to work?
Any version of firmware should work fine. However, I do recommend using the latest. Be sure to save a scene to a flash drive before you update. This will serve as your backup.
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Question. Is this a better option than to use a matrix ? If so why?
Yes. Using bus mixes is better than using a matrix because busses offer more flexibility and customization.
Im using the mimo software for my live stream using the SQ7 Allen and Heath board console.
Now when i adjust my volume levels for my live stream im not hearing much of a difference or anything at all.
What do you think my issue is?
How do you deal with latency in wireless mics? We have a delay in the wireless mics coming into our livestream computer, but don't have that same lag in our tracks. Is it a routing issue, or a wireless mic issue? We tried using wired mics, but have the same issue.
Hey Nathanael - You'll have to apply a delay to your live stream audio in order to line up with the video signal. Usually this is done in whatever application you are using for live streaming (e.g. OBS). Are you using OBS?
Hi Kade. Is it necessary to do and link mix bus to create a stereo but streaming on Facebook that is only mono? Thanks so much in advance ☺
Hey Mariano - great question. Facebook Live can receive stereo audio. And I recommend a stereo mix even if most users are listening via a mono mix on their phone. Even then, many phones have a stereo setup these days.
Our livestream software pulls in a single mono signal and sends it to both L & R for the stream output. Given this setup would using a stereo bus change anything? Even if I send both channels to the live stream software, unless I pan something, it would still sound the same correct? Or am I missing something? Great simple setup, we've been doing something similar but using two people to mix sound, one for house and one for live stream. Our taps are all pre-fader so we mix 100% of stream seperate from house. We may give this a try, would be nice to have the option for one volunteer to run sound instead of two. Final question, what do you do for livestream effects such as reverb? We've noticed that reverb in the room sounds much different than on the live stream. Great video, thanks!
There should be a way for your live stream software to accept two input channels, one for left and the other for right. If not, then no need to mess with the stereo setup.
Regarding reverb for the livestream, I have a video coming out soon specifically for that. Keep an eye out. :)
@@collabworship Thanks for the reply. The short answer is yes we could sent a stereo mix to the software but we are a mobile church and have to setup and tear down each Sunday. Just wondering how much we would gain by doing this, is it worth the effort to run another 150' xlr.
@@kjohnson8775 I see. Most churches have their live stream computer in close proximity to the mixer, so I didn't take into account that you'd be running a 150' cable. In this case, it may not be worth it.
@@collabworship Thanks, sometimes I forget that we're not the norm:) What are your thoughts on running a seperate stream through a matrix? That's how our setup is currently configured, wondering if there's a benefit to using the matrix or if I should reconfigure without the matrix to simplify the config.
@@kjohnson8775 A matrix doesn't really have enough flexibly for a live stream mix. Using bus mixes gives you the best of both worlds.
Would these principles apply if your stream is running off a linked Set of Matrixes? Or is it best to use two buses?
Matrix mixes don't give you the same amount of flexibility. I recommend using two busses instead if you have them available.
@@collabworship Gotcha thank you!
After setting this up I noticed when I turn up my livestream mix bus it increases in the house. What went wrong?
Select your live stream bus and make sure it is not turned on the the STEREO or MONO BUS (buttons to the left of the screen on the X32).
That’s what it was. Thank you!
How do you send the audio from your bus out for your livestream?
If you are using the X32, you'll need to route the live stream bus to an available output on the routing screen.
Hello, so I’m sending out a mono mix to a interface at the streaming computer. Is this okay? And how would I go about setting the gain on the interface and adjusting the gain on the streaming software. I’d appreciate some input! Thanks!
A mono mix is okay. A stereo mix is better. :) Regarding gain, make sure you are sending a strong signal from your mixer. Then set your interface to right under peaking. You streaming software should then be at 0.
@@collabworship I’d love to send out a stereo mix but I’m using a Soundcraft SI Impact, I can’t find out how to link 2 busses for stereo
hi kade, i saw you didn't do any rounting for this live stream do i need too
Routing will vary based on how you have your mixer connected to your live stream computer.
@@collabworship thank very much
This may be a very dumb question and I’m sure I know the answer but just clarifying. If I have the settings like this, will my main L/R fader control any of the stream mix as well?
Also, what do you prefer to have your main L/R set to? I can’t find anything stating that “this is where you should set your main L/R fader.”
Thanks for the awesome vids and tutorials btw!
The main LR fader will not affect the live stream mix with this setup. I recommend leaving the main fader at unity (0dB) and only use it to make slight adjustments to the overall mix when needed (e.g. you can pull it down 1-2dB to kill feedback quickly).
@@collabworship thanks Kade! I’ve got it set up and going to see how it looks with our Good Friday service! One issue I’ve found and it’s probably just me, is that when soloing my live stream bus I only hear it in the left ear. Has this been an issue that’s come up before?
Also also, my mix bus need to be post fader as well, correct?
Nvm, I found your panning video for the mono guitar channel in the feed!
@@malker22 Are your two live stream busses linked together as a stereo pair?
@@collabworship Hey Kade, I’ve got mix bus 1 and 2 linked and I set those actual buses to post fader and went in and manually set the pastor mic, room mics and computer to pre-fader. I checked the acoustic channel and noticed it was faded hard left so I followed your tip from your panning tutorial and brought it back over a little, centered up the bass, drums and mics and out the keys and electric over to the right. I THINK we’ve got it squared away now, but we shall see tomorrow!
hey good day question can i use a bus mix and send it to atem mini ?
Definitely!
Hi Kade! I have vocal reverb in the house by I don’t seem to hear it on my stream bus mix. Do I have to manually send reverb to my stream busses? Thanks in advance!
Yep. You'll need to send your FX returns to the live stream busses in order to hear reverb on your live stream.
How do I route the live stream mix to zoom?
Through a USB audio interface. You can use the one built into your mixer (if available) or something like the Scarlet 2i2: sweetwater.sjv.io/6eWWJ3
Thanks for your response. I’m using a x32 and our church uses zoom for our live stream. I’m having trouble getting the live stream mix that you show in this video routed to zoom through x-usb.
I'm still not sure what pre fader and post fader mean. I have yamaha tf3 we use aux 5/6 for livestream and have all channels on post fader. We have the fader on aux 5/6 for each channel set up already. How does it differ when I change them to pre fader?
I thought FOH and livestream have different auxes, so how come when it's on post fader when you change foh sound it will also change livestream sound? I think I lack the basic of mixer knowledge. I'm still new to sound terms and sound engineering.
Thank you
The fader only applies to the main mix. So, when you set an aux to "post-fader" that means you are grabbing the signal after the fader before sending it to your aux. This is why, when set to post fader, your main mix affects your aux mix.
@@collabworship I'm sorry, I'm still kind of lost. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm guessing the faders when you don't select any aux are the faders for the main mix?
If I press aux 5/6 the channels faders go back to 0 right?
So if I set the channels to post fader on aux 5/6, even when I leave the faders at 0 on aux 5/6, the sound will just copy the faders from the main mix?
If that's correct, what happen when I get the faders up? That doesn't do anything or the sound from aux 5/6 gets combined from both faders?
Or I have to make it to pre faders then the faders on aux 5/6 become standalone?
I'm sorry if my understanding is confusing. I thought aux 5/6 are standalone already, I didn't know till I hear the term pre and post faders.
@@alursetiawan When set to pre-fader, your aux faders will still adjust the levels. When set to post-fader, your aux faders AND your main faders will affect the volume.
@@collabworship I see, I got it now. What still bothers me right now, in yamaha tf channel settings, there is a direct out button that we set as post fader and we haven't set any channel to post fader to the auxes since the default setting is pre fader anyway. So I'm not sure if the channels sound that the computer takes from the mixer is post fader or pre fader, because of the direct out setting for recording.
I'll find out tomorrow after the church service. Thanks for your help and clarification
Great Video! What cord do I need to connect the mixer to our camera to feed the Aux mix into it?
What camera are you using?
@@collabworship Canon EOS Rebel SL3
@@solomonhyde What are you connecting the camera to to live stream? To a computer and OBS? Some other streaming device?
@@collabworship into the computer into propresenter!
@@collabworship Right now were truly just trying to broadcast later I just want to get as good an aux mix as I can. But im also going to multitrack record and mix the audio down myself. I just don't know how or what program I need to put the audio back on the video after its mixed
Would it be okay to set every channels to Pre Fader? Our church is not acoustic treated and lost of echo. So, for example, if we set the drum mics low for the in-house, we can barely hear the drum on live stream.
Also, when we sent it to P-16 with prefader, muting the in-house won't affect the P-16. will it be the same case for the Bus?
Thanks!
Yes, you can use pre-fader if the post-fader solution is not working for you. Regarding the muting question, it is not the same as the P16. With a bus mix, when you mute in the room, it will also mute in the bus mix.
@@collabworship thank you!
Should you run the live stream mix in stereo if your house is mono?
Hey Curtis - great question. Simple answer is, yes. When it comes to the house mix, mono works fine because most places in the room cannot equally hear both speakers. But on the live stream, people can hear both the left and right channel coming through their headphones or TV speakers.
@@collabworship Great! Thank you. Would I then take a line out for BOTH channels into the interface (in my case a 2i2) that feeds my live stream?
@@cmcgill Yep! You got it.
What about effects?
Here are reverb tips for your live stream mix: th-cam.com/video/5doztn5EsFU/w-d-xo.html
@@collabworship thank you
Because we have a small sanctuary our drums don’t usually get mixed that much into the FOH. Would setting the drum mics to prefader be a good way to get better drum levels in the livestream mix, or do you have another suggestion?
Hey Zac - Yep, in your situation, pre fader is probably the best setup for the drums.
@@collabworship We have nothing for drums, so ended up using a vocal mic (SM58) somewhere just back from the toms/snare a foot, and sideways to the piano. It goes only to the aux's for the stream mix. It sounds very Beatles, but at least it's audible in mix. We just don't have frequent drummers, and no plexi wall or multiple channels to dedicate for a set of drum mics.
Anyone else do something better using only one or two channels? Submixer on the drum set maybe?
@@petersaulesleja8654I have run a drum kit sub mixer before when I didn't have the snake channels available, it's certainly a viable option for streaming as well.
You may also be able to use the recording studio technique of two overhead mics over the kit, if it's NOT in a cage, and the stage volume is not too high. It doesn't work well for live sound, but just to get the drums into the broadcast mix it can be useful at times.
You just have to experiment and see what sounds good in your exact situation
Can you translate this to soundcraft it's way different 😭
Thanks for the recommendation! We'll see what we can do.
Hey Kade. This system has been working super well since we implemented it over a year ago. Thanks again. It was also awesome to see your recent Tech Tour with Ryland Russell, and he uses this setup as well. 👍👍
One issue I do come across though is that the mix in the headphones for live stream from the X32 sounds different to when I plug in headphones to the live stream PC, which sounds different to listening on my phone which sounds different to listening on my TV at home. On the X32 there is a lot of drums and bass and the vocals are barely audible, but at home drums are "OK" the bass is just there but vocals are way out there. Is this something that you have come across? am I doing something wrong in my mix? Any suggestions? I've been doing this long enough so I now do the mental adjustment that "this: in my ears should sound like "that" for the live stream, but it would be nice not to have to do that. How do I manage a mix so what I hear in my headphones is going to be what the live stream end worshipper hears?
Cheers. Glenn.
Great point, Glenn. Unfortunately, that's just how it is. TV speakers, phone speakers, headphones, they are all going to color the sound their own way. I recommend finding out how most people are viewing the live stream and then cater your livestream mix to that device.
In this regard where would you say it's a great starting point for your effect return (revb) and (delay)on the live stream bus?
-10dB is a good starting point.
This might be a dumb question, but do I simply need to plug my X32 into my streaming device (We use SlingStudio) and it will automatically choose Bus 1 & 2 for my livestream?
Unfortunately, it will not automatically choose bus 1 & 2. You'll need to set this in the X32's routing configuration. What output on the X32 to you plan to use to connect to the sling studio?
@@collabworship Was hoping to connect via the Aux 1 & 2 as a split 1/4" to an aux. Tried to do the usb to the Sling, but it didn't connect. Any thoughts or suggestions?
On the "Aux Out" page of our X-32, we have Aux Out 1's output signal as MixBus 1 and Aux Out 2's output signal as MixBus2 for more context!
@@614Church It sounds like you should be getting signal to the sling. But there are several variables that could be getting in the way. Please save a scene to a flash drive and email the .scn file to kade at collaborateworship.com so I can take a look. Thanks!
If I’m coming out of my sq7 via USB and into my iMac for my live stream, do I still use 2 auxs?
In order to have a stereo mix, you'll have to use two auxs.
Is there a way to lock one aux with the other? So I don’t have to go back and forth adjusting both?
@@quintonburton9205 What mixer are you using?
SQ7
@@quintonburton9205 I've not used that mixer before, but since it is a digital mixer, I suspect there is a way to link the two auxs together.
Hi Kade,
I have noticed after I updated the latest firmware (4.04.1) on the X32, the fader db level is showing incorrectly. Say for example, if I set Channel 1 fader at 0 db, the LCD display shows that it is +4db on the Main tab. All the fader are showing like that. Is this a firmware issue or may be my console needs repair. It is surprising that all faders are like that. Could you please check your console and let me know
Hey Benjo - that's strange. I've not noticed this on my X32. Hopefully the next update will fix it for you.
@@collabworship thanks Kade. If you are on V4.04.1, could you please check your X32 console and let me know if your console is having the same issue? Thanks Kade
Should be "Sends on fader"... Not "Sins on Faders" ;)
Hi Kade, Thank you for the presenting it as simple in speach. But some people learn by watching the real technical video. Of course I am not expecting the technical video on your TH-cam channel here. But after your recommendation I visited the website and payed to learn how to work on this x 32. However even in that lesson there is no much video of technical operations. You still spend most of the time by orally talking about it. That is not fair at all. In the middle of your explanation there is may be 3 to 4 seconds of zoomed in video , which doesn't even show which button you touched to change what, and then it goes back to your talk. That is not a lesson worth that payment. Scores for what? Because I did not see any difference between your TH-cam video and the payed lessons on the website.
Hey Elias - We do our best to have the right balance between information and examples. But I can definitely understand how some would like more examples, or even slower pace through the examples. One trick you can use is changing the playback speed of the video.
When it comes to TH-cam content vs our courses, you will find some shared content between the two. But our courses go much more in depth and are organized in a system where you and your team can track your progress along the way.
This would make sense, if you were a sound Engineer, lol.
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