Water’s a better conductor of sound. And frogs spend time in swampy water. It’s safer to say that the frog song would defeat kissame. Itachi might give naruto up and tell Jiraya about the 3rd hokage and that he’s loyal to the leaf. This changes things 🤔
Great idea and series! This should definitely continue. I like how you were objective about the Kisame vs Jiriya fight, Kisame definitely takes it due to durability, superior Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and Samehad, he also just scales to characters that have far more impressive feats than Jiriya like 7 gate Guy, 2nd Form Bee, MS Sasuke ect. A suggestion is to maybe flesh out more of what Naruto did while in captivity, I find it hard to believe he would simply stay at the same level, maybe he also makes some sort of deal with Kurama because we know Kurama would much more likely be with naruto than be a sacrifice for the 10 tails.
@@rahtatpierre7611 he only lost to 7 gate guy with no samehada on him I imagine if he did have it he would have won or atleast stale mated since it's his main thing
Man I really think the village would send more than just Jiraiya. I think they’d know the danger they would be in if they 1. Let the nine tails into the wrong hands (like someone who commuted genocide) 2.ONLY sent Jiraiya I think they would have sent Asuma Guy and Kurenai as well as any other elite jonin they could. The entire village was predicated by the fact that they were to hold and protect a jinchuriki. Ignoring story elements, they probably would send the InoShikaCho dads as well
I think EVEN IF they weren't on hand they would have sent some of the konaha 11 with him too they would get fucking destroyed but it's better than just jiraiya!
I’m so glad you made this video just to spark creative speculation. Remarkably you do an AMAZING Fantastic and Honorable service to us fans for this stuff. Honestly just living in speculation has become a new fun pass time🤯🤙🏽. Personally I think this is a great pinnacle turning point in the story!
that's worse than saying the human path can soul remove anyone. strongest person we seen the path remove the soul of is shizune. jiriya traps have never shown the ability trap people on this level. no proof he can no proof he can't. it's a invalid argument to make
@@kyartick8502 nagato almost removed the soul of kcm1 naruto. I think you can attempt to absorb anyone’s soul, but it’s a risky move that takes a lot time if they are strong.
I think Part 1 Kisame might be weaker. It's def possible this would go a difff way with that as well as Kisame might not realize what Ma&Pa are preparing if Pain was caught offguard. Kinda was waiting for the Inu. Hmm... Some of this stuff is kinda interesting while it's realistic I like how some of these could split or be quite interesting for a What-if.
I have two main disagreements in this otherwise fine video. I don't see Kisame beating Jiraiya. Kisame in part 1 himself was pretty terrified and all but stated he couldn't defeat Jiraiya. Samehada absorbing sage chakra would be an extreme risk for Kisame. Absorbing it at all or too much of it would result in Samehada turning into stone. Even going with your explanation, Ma and Pa are constantly absorbing nature energy to keep Jiraiya in sage mode anyways, so absorbing Jiraiyas sage energy is still a massive risk for Kisame to do. I'm not really sure what base gai has to do with this as sage jiraiya would absolutely wash base gai in a taiutsu fight, but while Kisame was able to react to V2 Bee, he was still blitzed and almost killed by V2 Bees Lariat. Kisame was less able to beat Bee in Taijutsu and more just fast enough to use Samehada to react and defend himself. I'm pretty sure it'd be a similar situation with Sage Jiraiya, and possibly even more dangerous for Kisame since he'd be absorbing sage chakra and not bijuu chakra. Kisame really doesn't have a counter to frog song either. As far as I remember Samehada really doesn't offer much resistance to genjutsu and if Ma and Pa got it off he'd be kinda fucked. I really didn't get the point about water messing with the genjutsu either. Sound waves travel better and faster in water than through the air because theres hundreds of times more particles than in air for them to move through. If it could travel through metal pipes and catch pain in the genjutsu, all 3 of them, it can definitely work on kisame through water. The only real thing Jiraiya can't directly counter is Kisames chakra absorbing super shark bomb jutsu. Even if Kisame was able to beat back Jiraiya somehow, I don't see him last standing to the death against Kisame. He's looking for Tsunade and there's no real suitable kage candidate besides him active at the moment. The 3rd had just died leaving the village vulnerable. Unlike against Pain, Jiraiya has no Intel to confirm when it comes to Kisame, nor does he have any personal connection to Kisame either like he had with Pain. He'd likely cut his losses and retreat, likely with a reverse summoning into a Toad stomach, and vow to get Naruto back later. Maybe after some training to master sage mode finally. My second big disagreement is that Sakura wouldn't train under Tsunade because she's not motivated enough. By this point Naruto would have been kidnapped by the Akatsuki and held captive, and Sasuke would have tried to defect. Both times Sakura was helpless to do anything about it. That's more than enough motivation for Sakura to train under Tsunade.
frog song is a weak and bs genjutsu. both anime and manga it took a long time for the genjustu to work. the pains deadass heard it and said it's a genjutsu and ran towards it. And it took a long time to effect them. also sound. sound travels through tubes easier than a open field. water breaks sound. if you and a friend are on 2 opposite sides of a river and the river is running fast you can't hear each other yell. but high pitch like whistles slice through the sounds caused my water. the pain v jiriya fight was garbage
kisame was only terrified of jiraiya based on his reputation as a sannin, he doesn’t know jiraiya to well, and even if sage jiraiya is stronger then kisame, kisame is the perfect counter and would win out in the end, I mean kisame definitely has more stamina and chakra
@@UnknownUser-iy7yb please stop using part one stuff for shippuden. Kisame also said hes just a seven swordsman and itachi is just a Uchiha. In shippuden kisame is 100% kage level and itachi is kage level. The narrative behind Kisame in part 1 is different than the narrative of kisame in shippuden. Kisames statement means I'd he saw tsunade walking with Naruto he'd be scared. Kisame was scared of the sanin title. He also feels itachi is below the sanin while he bitched orochimaru and would hurt tsunade horribly. Kisamea statement also implies part 1 kisame is Zabuza level. Since we only seen 1 swordsman so Zabuza is the measuring stick. If you think shippuden Kisame is close to Zabuza there is something wrong with you
@@kyartick8502 I never said shippuuden kisame is zabuza level, itachi said kisame could kill kakashi, but it would be with cost, kakashi was already above zabuza and this kakashi would be stronger then that, even if you say he’s marginally stronger, so part 1 kisame is easily above zabuza, and kisame said himself “i’m pretty sure you could go toe to toe with him, but im not so sure I could” so he never said itachi is below sannin level, he just implied that he’s below sannin level, and if you think that either kisame or itachi, even in part 1 are beneath tsunade, please get some help, and itachi and kisame are easily high kage level by shippuuden, not even part 1, itachi would be kage - high kage level, and kisame would be kage level
@@UnknownUser-iy7yb when did itachi say kisame could kill Kakashi 1v1? And kisames exact quote from the Manga "it was great to finally find him at the Ramen shop but his babysitter was one of the 3 great shinobi of konoha legend" "with him as our enemy even the titles konoha Uchiha clan and seven Ninja swordsmen of the mist pale in comparison " even tho itachi is way above Uchiha and is sanin level and kisame who he has no feats he is way above swordsmen level
I definitely don't think Orochimaru would actually let Tsunade live after, he'd probably use her loves to kill her or something. But other than that, awesome story!
Yeah Itachi is "the" illusion master of the verse. Forgetting the God characters (that is, anything from the war arc, 6 Paths, Kaguya or anyone else), he's been shown to cast illusions within illusions. If Itachi is using genjutsu on a lady, that genjutsu ain't breaking
If this were to happen to Naruto, it should’ve been more like a Sasuke retrieval arc 😂💯 Except we swap Sasuke with Naruto; the squad of Genin with all the significant Jonin and Chunin in the leaf, and instead of fighting against the Sound Four, it’s the akatsuki 🤣 tough...
No it wouldn't because itachi was never on the akatsuki side he was just getting close to find out their plan so I assume itachi would've fought kisama and guarded naruto or something like that
In Kisame vs B fight, Samehada betrayed Kisame because it "liked" B's Tailed Beast chakra more then Kisame's. Maybe this could be the case with Jiraiya and his Sage mode chakra (though it seems unlikely to me because Jiraiya is never shown to be an experienced swordsman). UPD: I consider to be the most likely the scenario where Itachi, failing to sabotage Kyubi capture operation, reveals his true allegiance and opposes Pain and Kisame with the help of Konohagakure.
Kisame, as close as they came to be was assigned to Itachi as his handler and to put him down(or try to) if he ever made it obvious(Obito still knew but if Itachi actively opposed him or pain). With Kisame not being there, Itachi could move as he pleased, probably show to Danzo’s office to threaten/remind him, possibly speak with Jiraiya in private(evidence points to Jiraiya being Itachi’s liaison to the leaf) and would leave. Itachi never planned to approach Sasuke, that was becuase Sasuke eavesdropped and found out so he’d leave him alone aside from spying on him just out of sight. He could just tell Pain and Obito Jiraiya showed up anyway and Itachi wasn’t confident in taking him. All in all, Kisame’s presence is why Itachi had to put on a show. Itachi would likely of not engaged with Asuma, Kurenai, Kakashi, and Gai. Would have taken a stealthier approach and have accomplished his mission efficiently with reminding Danzo he was still alive and giving intel to Jiraiya.
I like your videos but I think you maybe biased on this one. Once Jiraiya realises how samehada works (which is immediately after the 1st time Kisame uses it), his priority will be to disarm Kisame and not stupidly fight on. I can see him pulling this off in a number of ways. Including creating a diversion hit and his hair pulling the sword and sealing it or feeding it to a frog. Also how would Kisame know it is an auditory genjutsu specifically in order to counter it? The song would be a total surprise and when Kisame realises what it is, it would be too late. You underestimate Jiraiya and his experience.
Itachi purpose to comeback to the leaf was to warn Danzo and the rest to not harm Sasuke. If Itachi really wanted to, he would have killed Kurenai Asuma Kakashi, and took Naruto.
They’d find out they couldn’t do shit with him yet and keep him imprisoned, or on the way back, itachi will take control over handling bringing him back and find a way to get into a fight that will get naruto rescued from him.
You used part 2 scaling for part 1 characters. It's obvious that shark Boi got stronger over the time skip. While pervy sage probably got weaker from age
I agree but I feel as if the leaf would do more, I feel as if they would send guy and maybe other high level jonin to take back Naruto. Seeing as how they are up against 2 S rank shinobi who are both Kage+ Level They would trust Jiraiya is strong, but I don’t see them taking that chance seeing as how Naruto and the nine tails is one of the leafs biggest assets, so I think they would send guy, since 7th Gate guy beat a much stronger Kisame, he would kill Kisame while Jiraiya fight itachi, Jiraiya would be defeated but probably not killed, But eventually Guy would finish off Itachi
kisame said he's just zabuza level. that was the narrative of his plot in part 1. he was reconned in shippuden and was made kage level. part 1 was retconned so much. kisame didn't get stronger in shippuden. his narrative just changed. all his feats in shippuden apply in part 1
@@calvinwright2214 the famous quote people use to say jiriya beats itachi and kisame at the same time. Kisame says something like "its him one if the legendary 3 ninja of konoha. Im just a seven swordsmen and you're an uchihia" and what seven swordsmen did we see? Zabuza. That is kisame saying he's just seven swordsmen level which at the time was zabuza level
@@calvinwright2214 this one part 1. I'm talking about at the time the Manga came out. There was only 1 seven swordsman that we saw and he was zabua. So us the reader or watcher hears "seven swordsman " we think zabuza. Part 1 and shippuden have different narratives. It's why I have no issue saying based solely on part 1 knowledgeable jiriya is stinger than part 1 itachi. Because that was the narrative in part 1. Just like kisame being relative to asuma
I seriously want to debate you. This video made me wish I was a Naruto tuber just so I could contact you for a debate. I like your content but yeah…somethings I disagree with
Kisame couldn’t even beat Guy, he’s not beating Jiraiya. Jiraiya was able to find counters for Pain’s Preta path’s chakra absorption (while also fighting the Animal and Human path), so he’d be able to handle Kisame. I think Kisame is a bit overrated, he lost to Guy, Bee, and he even admitted in part 1 he probably wouldn’t be able to fight Jiraiya. I don’t think he could even fight Orochimaru fr, it be even at best.
Bro Kisame is not 1v1ing jiraiya, does everyone forget that he can instantly put people inside toads.. that kisame only escaped because of itachi 🤦🏾♂️ Tf did I just listen to.
Naruto would never be able to escape rinnegan can see the actual person it's better than the Byakugan Naruto wouldn't had escape and nagato deva path could've use almighty push to blow them away no matter how realistic you seem to try but Naruto isn't escaping from S rank ninjas especially not in pain village it's not konoha where Naruto knows every hiding spot
Water’s a better conductor of sound. And frogs spend time in swampy water. It’s safer to say that the frog song would defeat kissame. Itachi might give naruto up and tell Jiraya about the 3rd hokage and that he’s loyal to the leaf. This changes things 🤔
Great idea and series! This should definitely continue. I like how you were objective about the Kisame vs Jiriya fight, Kisame definitely takes it due to durability, superior Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and Samehad, he also just scales to characters that have far more impressive feats than Jiriya like 7 gate Guy, 2nd Form Bee, MS Sasuke ect. A suggestion is to maybe flesh out more of what Naruto did while in captivity, I find it hard to believe he would simply stay at the same level, maybe he also makes some sort of deal with Kurama because we know Kurama would much more likely be with naruto than be a sacrifice for the 10 tails.
he doesnt scale to 7 gate gai
@@rahtatpierre7611 he only lost to 7 gate guy with no samehada on him I imagine if he did have it he would have won or atleast stale mated since it's his main thing
@@georgethompson8911 I think he did have samehada if I'm not mistaken but even with it, he can't absorb taijutsu so it wouldn't help him
Jiraya is clapping kisame
Man I really think the village would send more than just Jiraiya. I think they’d know the danger they would be in if they
1. Let the nine tails into the wrong hands (like someone who commuted genocide)
2.ONLY sent Jiraiya
I think they would have sent Asuma Guy and Kurenai as well as any other elite jonin they could. The entire village was predicated by the fact that they were to hold and protect a jinchuriki. Ignoring story elements, they probably would send the InoShikaCho dads as well
I think EVEN IF they weren't on hand they would have sent some of the konaha 11 with him too they would get fucking destroyed but it's better than just jiraiya!
Well after the attack from the sound and sand they wouldn't have many Jonin to send.
I doubt Danzo would just let this happen,… he’d definitely send some of his root ninja to retrieve Naruto, as he could use this to become Hokage.
@@BeIaAwBeMo1992 Exactly, Danzo is not dumb.
OOOOOO Danzos Gonna send the Anbu Black Ops to support Jiraiya, be afraiddddd
Kisame and itachi was epic
I’m so glad you made this video just to spark creative speculation. Remarkably you do an AMAZING Fantastic and Honorable service to us fans for this stuff. Honestly just living in speculation has become a new fun pass time🤯🤙🏽.
Personally I think this is a great pinnacle turning point in the story!
Awesome job man 👍😎👍
Can’t jiraiya just put him in the frog that kisame couldn’t get out of there
Plot reason
@@lunyolieny4463 that’s not a true comeback unless there’s proof that says other wise then jiraiya wins
that's worse than saying the human path can soul remove anyone. strongest person we seen the path remove the soul of is shizune. jiriya traps have never shown the ability trap people on this level. no proof he can no proof he can't. it's a invalid argument to make
@@kyartick8502 nagato almost removed the soul of kcm1 naruto. I think you can attempt to absorb anyone’s soul, but it’s a risky move that takes a lot time if they are strong.
Really enjoyed this what-if. Interesting to watch
I think Part 1 Kisame might be weaker.
It's def possible this would go a difff way with that as well as Kisame might not realize what Ma&Pa are preparing if Pain was caught offguard.
Kinda was waiting for the Inu.
Hmm...
Some of this stuff is kinda interesting while it's realistic I like how some of these could split or be quite interesting for a What-if.
If Naruto died:
Hagoromo: Ayo what up homie
Dude, you need to finish all of your what-if series. They are amazing.
I have two main disagreements in this otherwise fine video.
I don't see Kisame beating Jiraiya. Kisame in part 1 himself was pretty terrified and all but stated he couldn't defeat Jiraiya. Samehada absorbing sage chakra would be an extreme risk for Kisame. Absorbing it at all or too much of it would result in Samehada turning into stone. Even going with your explanation, Ma and Pa are constantly absorbing nature energy to keep Jiraiya in sage mode anyways, so absorbing Jiraiyas sage energy is still a massive risk for Kisame to do.
I'm not really sure what base gai has to do with this as sage jiraiya would absolutely wash base gai in a taiutsu fight, but while Kisame was able to react to V2 Bee, he was still blitzed and almost killed by V2 Bees Lariat. Kisame was less able to beat Bee in Taijutsu and more just fast enough to use Samehada to react and defend himself. I'm pretty sure it'd be a similar situation with Sage Jiraiya, and possibly even more dangerous for Kisame since he'd be absorbing sage chakra and not bijuu chakra.
Kisame really doesn't have a counter to frog song either. As far as I remember Samehada really doesn't offer much resistance to genjutsu and if Ma and Pa got it off he'd be kinda fucked. I really didn't get the point about water messing with the genjutsu either. Sound waves travel better and faster in water than through the air because theres hundreds of times more particles than in air for them to move through. If it could travel through metal pipes and catch pain in the genjutsu, all 3 of them, it can definitely work on kisame through water.
The only real thing Jiraiya can't directly counter is Kisames chakra absorbing super shark bomb jutsu.
Even if Kisame was able to beat back Jiraiya somehow, I don't see him last standing to the death against Kisame. He's looking for Tsunade and there's no real suitable kage candidate besides him active at the moment. The 3rd had just died leaving the village vulnerable. Unlike against Pain, Jiraiya has no Intel to confirm when it comes to Kisame, nor does he have any personal connection to Kisame either like he had with Pain. He'd likely cut his losses and retreat, likely with a reverse summoning into a Toad stomach, and vow to get Naruto back later. Maybe after some training to master sage mode finally.
My second big disagreement is that Sakura wouldn't train under Tsunade because she's not motivated enough. By this point Naruto would have been kidnapped by the Akatsuki and held captive, and Sasuke would have tried to defect. Both times Sakura was helpless to do anything about it. That's more than enough motivation for Sakura to train under Tsunade.
frog song is a weak and bs genjutsu. both anime and manga it took a long time for the genjustu to work. the pains deadass heard it and said it's a genjutsu and ran towards it. And it took a long time to effect them. also sound. sound travels through tubes easier than a open field. water breaks sound. if you and a friend are on 2 opposite sides of a river and the river is running fast you can't hear each other yell. but high pitch like whistles slice through the sounds caused my water. the pain v jiriya fight was garbage
kisame was only terrified of jiraiya based on his reputation as a sannin, he doesn’t know jiraiya to well, and even if sage jiraiya is stronger then kisame, kisame is the perfect counter and would win out in the end, I mean kisame definitely has more stamina and chakra
@@UnknownUser-iy7yb please stop using part one stuff for shippuden. Kisame also said hes just a seven swordsman and itachi is just a Uchiha. In shippuden kisame is 100% kage level and itachi is kage level. The narrative behind Kisame in part 1 is different than the narrative of kisame in shippuden. Kisames statement means I'd he saw tsunade walking with Naruto he'd be scared. Kisame was scared of the sanin title. He also feels itachi is below the sanin while he bitched orochimaru and would hurt tsunade horribly. Kisamea statement also implies part 1 kisame is Zabuza level. Since we only seen 1 swordsman so Zabuza is the measuring stick. If you think shippuden Kisame is close to Zabuza there is something wrong with you
@@kyartick8502 I never said shippuuden kisame is zabuza level, itachi said kisame could kill kakashi, but it would be with cost, kakashi was already above zabuza and this kakashi would be stronger then that, even if you say he’s marginally stronger, so part 1 kisame is easily above zabuza, and kisame said himself “i’m pretty sure you could go toe to toe with him, but im not so sure I could” so he never said itachi is below sannin level, he just implied that he’s below sannin level, and if you think that either kisame or itachi, even in part 1 are beneath tsunade, please get some help, and itachi and kisame are easily high kage level by shippuuden, not even part 1, itachi would be kage - high kage level, and kisame would be kage level
@@UnknownUser-iy7yb when did itachi say kisame could kill Kakashi 1v1? And kisames exact quote from the Manga "it was great to finally find him at the Ramen shop but his babysitter was one of the 3 great shinobi of konoha legend" "with him as our enemy even the titles konoha Uchiha clan and seven Ninja swordsmen of the mist pale in comparison " even tho itachi is way above Uchiha and is sanin level and kisame who he has no feats he is way above swordsmen level
Well, it will be game over if naruto successfully kidnapped
I definitely don't think Orochimaru would actually let Tsunade live after, he'd probably use her loves to kill her or something. But other than that, awesome story!
This was awesome!
Yeah Itachi is "the" illusion master of the verse. Forgetting the God characters (that is, anything from the war arc, 6 Paths, Kaguya or anyone else), he's been shown to cast illusions within illusions. If Itachi is using genjutsu on a lady, that genjutsu ain't breaking
If he planned it to then yeah
Kisame never beat guy
True
He only stated he was stronger than Base Gai
Kisame lost to guy because Samehada betrayed him.
@@123dan165 ok but he still never beat him and guy didn’t use the 8th gate 💀
True
If this were to happen to Naruto, it should’ve been more like a Sasuke retrieval arc 😂💯 Except we swap Sasuke with Naruto; the squad of Genin with all the significant Jonin and Chunin in the leaf, and instead of fighting against the Sound Four, it’s the akatsuki 🤣
tough...
No it wouldn't because itachi was never on the akatsuki side he was just getting close to find out their plan so I assume itachi would've fought kisama and guarded naruto or something like that
@@ZayDeyknow
_But it’s a hypothetical.._ :/
@@AsianEyes007 yeah that makes no sense it has to actually make some sense if it's hypothetical
@@ZayDeyknow
Well, what would’ve happened if Jiraiya wasn’t there? Or if Kisame didn’t listen to Itachi and attacked anyway?
@@AsianEyes007 itachi would've most likely step in and he knew kisame respected him enough to listen to him
In Kisame vs B fight, Samehada betrayed Kisame because it "liked" B's Tailed Beast chakra more then Kisame's. Maybe this could be the case with Jiraiya and his Sage mode chakra (though it seems unlikely to me because Jiraiya is never shown to be an experienced swordsman).
UPD: I consider to be the most likely the scenario where Itachi, failing to sabotage Kyubi capture operation, reveals his true allegiance and opposes Pain and Kisame with the help of Konohagakure.
or make what if Jiraiya became the fourth Hokage instead of Minato
You completely underestimate the many uses of toad OIL.
We all know that if Itachi was alone he would not get Naruto
Kisame, as close as they came to be was assigned to Itachi as his handler and to put him down(or try to) if he ever made it obvious(Obito still knew but if Itachi actively opposed him or pain).
With Kisame not being there, Itachi could move as he pleased, probably show to Danzo’s office to threaten/remind him, possibly speak with Jiraiya in private(evidence points to Jiraiya being Itachi’s liaison to the leaf) and would leave. Itachi never planned to approach Sasuke, that was becuase Sasuke eavesdropped and found out so he’d leave him alone aside from spying on him just out of sight. He could just tell Pain and Obito Jiraiya showed up anyway and Itachi wasn’t confident in taking him.
All in all, Kisame’s presence is why Itachi had to put on a show. Itachi would likely of not engaged with Asuma, Kurenai, Kakashi, and Gai. Would have taken a stealthier approach and have accomplished his mission efficiently with reminding Danzo he was still alive and giving intel to Jiraiya.
I like your videos but I think you maybe biased on this one. Once Jiraiya realises how samehada works (which is immediately after the 1st time Kisame uses it), his priority will be to disarm Kisame and not stupidly fight on. I can see him pulling this off in a number of ways.
Including creating a diversion hit and his hair pulling the sword and sealing it or feeding it to a frog. Also how would Kisame know it is an auditory genjutsu specifically in order to counter it? The song would be a total surprise and when Kisame realises what it is, it would be too late. You underestimate Jiraiya and his experience.
Bruh did he just say he can avoid SONIC attacks by going into fucking water? Physics??????
You also underestimate jiraiya's fight iQ
Itachi purpose to comeback to the leaf was to warn Danzo and the rest to not harm Sasuke. If Itachi really wanted to, he would have killed Kurenai Asuma Kakashi, and took Naruto.
They’d find out they couldn’t do shit with him yet and keep him imprisoned, or on the way back, itachi will take control over handling bringing him back and find a way to get into a fight that will get naruto rescued from him.
Sound carries better underwater?? Plus they are frogs who would be more comfortable perform in water????
Your saying kid Naruto escaped from Akatsuki yeah disliked
The Akatsuki
Let him
Plot.
If didn't escaped then story was just gonna end there that's no fun or barely what if story
@@lunyolieny4463 Right
Me playing idle heroes: my heroes are trash but I’ll just put the best heroes to work :3
The leaf village: same
Did this get a part 2?
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I don't see them catching up. And I don't see itachi stopping. he knows the leaf. he knows they use dogs
Sakura becomes more useless good vid man ✊🏾
You used part 2 scaling for part 1 characters. It's obvious that shark Boi got stronger over the time skip. While pervy sage probably got weaker from age
I agree but I feel as if the leaf would do more, I feel as if they would send guy and maybe other high level jonin to take back Naruto. Seeing as how they are up against 2 S rank shinobi who are both Kage+ Level They would trust Jiraiya is strong, but I don’t see them taking that chance seeing as how Naruto and the nine tails is one of the leafs biggest assets, so I think they would send guy, since 7th Gate guy beat a much stronger Kisame, he would kill Kisame while Jiraiya fight itachi, Jiraiya would be defeated but probably not killed, But eventually Guy would finish off Itachi
I think obito puts Naruto under genjutsu like yagura and throws him in kamui
you think you can make what if mean I tell transfer the nine tails to his wife and to himself and stead of him and Naruto
Why couldn't the akatsuki do math ?
Because they could've capture the 1 tail and 9 tail to accomplish there goal quicker thank me later
Your Albert Einstein
@@grubhub3933 You’re Isaac Appleton
Please do part 3
The Shark Devours the Frog
i think guy might join too tho (GETTIT!?!?!)
kisame said he's just zabuza level. that was the narrative of his plot in part 1. he was reconned in shippuden and was made kage level. part 1 was retconned so much. kisame didn't get stronger in shippuden. his narrative just changed. all his feats in shippuden apply in part 1
When did he say this?
@@calvinwright2214 the famous quote people use to say jiriya beats itachi and kisame at the same time. Kisame says something like "its him one if the legendary 3 ninja of konoha. Im just a seven swordsmen and you're an uchihia" and what seven swordsmen did we see? Zabuza. That is kisame saying he's just seven swordsmen level which at the time was zabuza level
@@kyartick8502 mmmmm that’s not exactly saying he’s Zabuza level. Mangetsu is 7 swordsman level but it’s indicated he’s highly above zabuza no?
@@calvinwright2214 this one part 1. I'm talking about at the time the Manga came out. There was only 1 seven swordsman that we saw and he was zabua. So us the reader or watcher hears "seven swordsman " we think zabuza. Part 1 and shippuden have different narratives. It's why I have no issue saying based solely on part 1 knowledgeable jiriya is stinger than part 1 itachi. Because that was the narrative in part 1. Just like kisame being relative to asuma
@@kyartick8502 ima rewatch
It was going good until Naruto to escaped the Akatsuki. That was too unbelievable.
I don’t think part 1 kisame is taking on sage jiraiya even part 2 is though plus if he frog songs him it’s over
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I don't think you actually understand how nature energy works, but ok.
I seriously want to debate you. This video made me wish I was a Naruto tuber just so I could contact you for a debate. I like your content but yeah…somethings I disagree with
The series would’ve been so much better this way lol
Kisame couldn’t even beat Guy, he’s not beating Jiraiya. Jiraiya was able to find counters for Pain’s Preta path’s chakra absorption (while also fighting the Animal and Human path), so he’d be able to handle Kisame. I think Kisame is a bit overrated, he lost to Guy, Bee, and he even admitted in part 1 he probably wouldn’t be able to fight Jiraiya. I don’t think he could even fight Orochimaru fr, it be even at best.
He destroyed bee🤣🤣
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You’re saying that part 1 Kisame beats Jiraiya? Hard no.
part 1 kisame is only zabuza level because of the plot. that's like saying part 1 itachi loses to shippuden itachi, they are the same
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Kisame is above sannin tier, his ez fight vs B proves this. Bad match up or not.
Killer B didn't go full power because he didn't want to alert the rikage.
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Bro Kisame is not 1v1ing jiraiya, does everyone forget that he can instantly put people inside toads.. that kisame only escaped because of itachi 🤦🏾♂️ Tf did I just listen to.
Youe water and sound argument is not sound
Naruto would never be able to escape rinnegan can see the actual person it's better than the Byakugan Naruto wouldn't had escape and nagato deva path could've use almighty push to blow them away no matter how realistic you seem to try but Naruto isn't escaping from S rank ninjas especially not in pain village it's not konoha where Naruto knows every hiding spot
Jiraiya beats Kisame tho
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