It's terrifying the depths of cruelty the human race can descend to. You have to wonder how many folks young and old throughout time were silenced and no justice was ever served. Kevin thanks again for the education and sharing these sobering historic events.
I’m just so viscerally disgusted by cowardice. The men who were told what was happening and failed to intervene and the men on the second jury deserve nothing but shame.
I mean what exactly do we think is happening RIGHT NOW?!? We live in a world controlled by men, which has effectively groomed entire generations of young girls into being sex workers today. Grown men in their forties and fifties (all the way up to a hundred) who are happy to consume their "content", while pretending to be faithful and devoted, fathers and husbands!😂 This is WHAT men are. Disgusting and predatory. If history tells us anything at all... it's that men in general should not have power of women of any age, as they will always abuse that power.
@@TheBluePony3unfortunately it is that way. Same when a woman 'forces' herself onto a man. Its met with mockery and 'you're a man you should like it' Sorry that happened to you. :(
after the first girl went to the hospital and told what was going on, how did they allow them to keep anymore girls? So disgusting that someone can be so cruel.
@@TkT8PR I mean… sure. Congrats on the observation? All the countless men within the chain and systems that could’ve helped or prevented this from happening, even doing something as small as investigating this girls stories completely slipped the minds of all of them
Why? The girls weren't their children. Also it makes no sense to be speechless regarding this when the brutalities of slavery even towards children, for example are known. The fact that these girls weren't enslaved or non European makes no difference. They were members of an underclass and therefore in the minds of psychopaths, worthless.
@@ginnyanntonick Modernity? So the ritual human sacrifice found in almost all pre-Christian pagan religions is a product of "modernity"? You should try learning history without bias.
@@CandiceGoddardperhaps she is hoping for better behavior from supposedly civilized Christians, which is what they were supposed to be. That they behaved worse than ancient pagans makes it even worse.
The brutality of the entire family is almost beyond belief. I wonder how the surviving girls fared in their lives after they were removed from their torture. Thank you for the story. Cheers from Texas.
Hi David, yes I wondered that and tried to find out but there's nothing out there. I just hope they managed to find some happiness in their subsequent lives. Have a good weekend 👍🏻
Mary Mitchell and Mary Jones might have wanted this horror to be forgotten. Still seems weird that there was no record of them afterwards. Could they have changed names at that time due to the crimes against them?
@@deed5811 It's not weird. They were members of the lowest social class and probably illiterate as mentioned in the video so unable to record their own histories. There's absolutely no mention of MOST people from the same socio-economic class and even though the girls escaped, it doesn't mean that anyone would have particularly helped them and made a record of their lives because quite frankly what would have been more interesting in the case would be the gory details and the motives of the killers. When I was at uni studying archaeology the first thing we were taught was to not interpret the past according to our own standards or morals, but try to get into the mindset of the people at that time. With all due respect, people like you seem to have a very delusional interpretation of history. These people were socio-economically beneath most domestic servants in a medium to large sized household and atrocities like this were not rare. In the same time period, which was the early industrial period btw, lots of poor families sold their children into apprenticeships knowing that many would not survive their teens. There are stories about how teenagers died being ground up in early machinery or having their limbs torn off. Old people who could no longer work would commit suicide so as not to be a burden and mothers who were out breast feeding rich women's children would enrol their own babies in death lotteries, hoping the children would die as the pay out was sometimes more than their yearly salary.
This “family” was pure evil. Beyond evil. This is of the most sickening stories I’ve ever heard. The lodger, the neighbors, the apprentices, etc. also deserve condemnation as well for doing absolutely nothing.
Husband and son literally getting away with murder, and just six months for assault - incredible. But the people who originally just wrote that letter of complaint have to be blamed too, they basically just washed thier hands of all responsibility even though they knew there was still at least one other girl there.
I am very sad to say this happens just as much today. I work in social services and see this all the time. I would love to get my hands on the people who do this. Thank you for your channel
Interesting statement. I live in Texas, and we just want to follow basic border protocal that the fed gov won't let us do! Without borders and citizenship, there is no country really! I think that is what "those people" in power are doing! UGH...
Makes you wonder about the loss of all those children of their own. Were they innocent of those deaths and it all caused them to lose their minds (especially her), or did one or both of them have a hand in the deaths? What an awful and atrocious, sad and devastating story. -- Thank you, sir, for all you do!
This is one of the most horrific cases I've heard. Those ladies shouldn't have had that happen to them. No idea what could make a whole family think to do anything remotely close to this stuff!
Thank you for your wonderful videos. I recently had a baby, and during that tender newborn first month, I watched your videos while I stayed up to comfort her. You made the nights less lonely and scary! My heart aches for those young girls, I can't even stomach the idea of such happening to my own daughter.
I have no daughter but I can imagine much more happened to these girls than is said here. May your girl grow up into a better life than you have had and always be able to help you.
Thank you, William, for speaking up. By then it was too late, but he saw the horrors and actually said something to try and help. Phenomenal video you did and how wonderful you are to acknowledge those poor girls.
I was anxious about something unrelated when I started watching this video but having finished it now I've realized that my problems are really pretty small and not worth worrying about. God, what a horrific story.
My aunt tells me all the time that my grandmother use to tell her, "Whenever you think you've got it bad just look around, you can always find someone worse off than you. Be thankful." Good advice that's sometimes hard to follow.
You’re presentations are so important and a lot of people would rather not hear about how we all got here! Thanks for helping us remember these people existed.
A much sad and depressing event Kevin, well told and a superb, the cruelty of what some people are capable of (And still do) is beyond normal comprehension. Many thanks. 👏
Such a vivid account, I don't think I'll forget those poor girls. Thank you for yet another mind expanding session; honestly don't know how you do it, and thank goodness you do!!
Greetings once again from Nova Scotia, thank you for a somewhat darker tale. We are capable of such terrible actions, it never ceases to amaze me how evil some are, no grasp of right and wrong. The more I learn about humanity, the more I love my dog... Be safe and as always, best regards. Arthur
You always tell the stories of the victims with great humanity. Thank you for that. And for not leaving out the gory details. They really do matter!. All the best.
You hear so many horrible stories you start to become desensitised to it, but this really brought home how cruel some people can be. The sadistic nature of the cruelty is so horrendous. Thank you for sharing their story x
I'm only halfway through this video, and my heart is breaking for these poor girls. Thank you for teaching me something about the past, and how the poor were treated by the more fortunate. I'm going to steel myselfand watch the rest of the video now.Thank you very much for posting sir
Thank you MR. Hicks. These sorts of historical stories and the analysis that you give them are wonderful, even if the subject matter is horrific. You do such a great job not only contextualizing them, but you give everything a reasonable weight and do not sensationalize parts that many others here on YT would. I also echo the sentiment from another commenter by saying thank you for naming and validating the victims. Kudos for all your videos and thank you!
I’m glad you brought that point up about the poor girls, the victims, being largely forgotten! That is the sad truth in most cases and it should be the other way around!
Hi Kev! Yet another riveting story mate. It always amazes me how people, can treat other people, in such a horrific way. Those girls really suffered! As per usual, this presentation was obviously meticulously researched. I waited to watch this until I got home, so I could watch it on my big TV rather than my phone. Keep the great stories coming please! My best wishes as always to you and Julie. Dave.
Mary Clifford not lost to history now thanks to you Kev. and we are glad. As terrible of a story as Mary's was it would not surprise me if something like this is happening today! Of course this is the old copper in me coming out! Thanks for this grisly tale Kev.
Indeed, but sadly it is still happening today. If I understand correctly a gang in Scotland has just been brought to justice for similar cruelties against children.
Similar things have happened in more recent times, two in particular comes to mind - Sylvia Likens in the US and another one from Japan called Junko Furuta. In Britain there have been a couple of cases such as the murder of Suzanne Cooper.
Hi Kevin I couldn't believe what I was hearing poor little girls. This was awful treatments for anyone to put up with. May their souls rest in peace. Thank you Kevin for bringing this our attention. A very interesting video as always. Love to you and your family. 🌹🌹🌹
A very gruesome tale of this foul family and unfortunate girls. Such a shame the male perpetrators got away with such a light sentence. Your research and gripping tale telling are second to non, thank you Kevin 🙏
It is an incredible shame that these predators have ALWAYS gotten away with the countless atrocities that they continue to commit against girls and women.
Not to this extent, a couple of my foster brothers suffered greatly at the hands of their guardians. Heartbreaking that abuse like this still happens. Great video
@@thehistorysquad I didn't even look at the title, nor watch the video as I said this. I kicked back in bed after and started the video up and had that "Oh..." moment. Definitely still super interesting and well told story, but hoo boy that was a journey.
This type of torture exist today, with police, international laws, child protective services, imagine back then? Where none of those existed? Imagine the number of inhuman behavior humans must have had?
Wow.. sounds like Elizabeth had some serious psychological issues after losing 13 out of 16 children.. she should not have been allowed to oversee those kids. Crazy to think how things used to be. On a lighter note, it’s always a good day when you upload, Kevin! Cheers!
Hi Kevin, another brilliant video despite the horrific crimes committed by Elizabeth, James and John Brownrigg and the unimaginable suffering of those poor girls. I’m from Wiltshire and I know there it’s lots of History here and I’m sure many fascinating stories connected to the county. Do you know of any in particular that jump out?
@@T-ChillSilverandSuch That's a frightening thought. Perhaps she did lose them as child mortality was higher in 18th century London. Though it's possible that some died of neglect or even intentional foul play.
This reminds me of the much more recent case of Sylvia Likens. She was an American teenager who was tortured and murdered by her caregiver, Gertrude Baniszewski and her children.
Reminds me of the Sylvia Likens case in America in the 50s/60s. Times change but people don't. Absolutely horrific. Thank you for the video, though. Is there any info on the surviving girl's life after?
I normally don’t comment, but this was one of the harder videos to listen to. Not because it is in anyway boring or dull; but because of the sheer disgust I felt towards this family’s actions and how unjust the punishments towards the males in the family felt. Though I did smirk when Elizabeth got her due and the manner in which she received it in full. I had never heard of this dark tale before today, and I thank you for shedding light on it, Kevin.
You really are a world class narrator your narrative could only made me visualise the brutality and sufferings of the poor girl. Being a lover of English language I have recommended your video to my students so that they can also learn that "every word makes a picture in the listener's mind". I'm from India and your narrative made me realise how much brutal the looters of England have been to us. And now they are the guardians of humanity. Sarcastic
The abject poverty in London in the 18th and 19th centuries is horrific. I’m almost surprised it took as long as it did for the labor movement to catch on
There were multiple attempts over the centuries to improve English society by reorganising it, from the Peasants' Revolt, through to the Levellers, and on to the unionist movement inspired by the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Power is never surrendered willingly. The conscienceless few are rarely reluctant to abuse the principled many.
I think the lack of action is due to many things. There was so much abuse of the young people in the situation as we have heard of. People who were aware of "groans and screaming" could not do anything of their own accord. The workhouse and constable had to be fetched and even then victims were hidden and perpetrators escaped. Like the countries populated by hundreds of millions of people no one sees the ones that go missing.
Trouble is that the authorities belief in “innocent till proven guilty” if even a little evidence exists people should be arrested immediately and then examined as to the truth afterwards ! .
This is such a horrid case and such a vile WOMAN(!!) as the perpetrator - proven guilty of these sinister and sadistic crimes, I'm boggled and bewildered that no one has done a true crime taken on it earlier. Just look at other slightly similar cases, like that of Sylvia Likens, where everyone and their mother have done a TH-cam video about it. At the same time, I'm very happy that YOU are the first one (to my knowledge) to talk about it and you do it with dignity and respect for the victims! ❤❤❤ From the bottom of my heart: Thank you so, so much! God bless you! 🙏❤️❤️❤️
A tragic tale, and it is great that you bring these instances to light. I really think the ignorance of the past is what leads people to say that "modern times are so much dangerous and crime ridden than in the past", when that couldn't be further from the truth. At least now we have better law enforcement and legal systems. This case also reminds me of what we learned in university - the UK had strict laws in place against the maltreatment of animals, long before it had legislation in place to protect children..
You sir are the king of story telling. I could listen to you all day. I was mesmerized, in between being sickened by the abuse of those poor girls, by your superb ability to tell a tale.
You know, I'm an agnostic - but if it means that nameless monster has been screaming in agony in the depths of hell for the last 257 years, I will gladly believe. And if it means that Mary Clifford, Mary Jones, and Mary Mitchell, a young woman with more courage in her bones than a million men, are now somewhere in a peaceful, contented place, perhaps reading, chatting idly together and basking in the spring sunshine - then I will believe in a heartbeat.
So, you will believe in God, if it means there is a hell for bad people to suffer in? That makes no sense. Whether or not you like something doesn’t make it more or less real. You believe in something because you believe, not because it suits you. Also, I would hope the idea that your loved ones could be in Paradise would be more motivational than people you’ve never met suffering. You scare me, sir
This is one of the problems I have with Christianity. The idea that someone can commit crimes for a maximum of about 70 years, and (compared to what Hell is supposed to be like) have a limited human level of cruelty, yet the perpetrators are then condemned to unimaginable horror for *eternity*! And then many folk will think this is just?! Wow... Just wow... Tbh with a heart like that, I would wonder if you would be likely to join them....
This was devastatingly sad, but the story of these girls needs to be heard and remembered
Thank you for your compassion, even for a poor girl murdered 250-years ago.
Still happens in some countries
@@nuzhatmuhammad4516
It happens in every country
I mean it is currently happening in every society that includes men.
@@sarahalderman3126cry about it😂
It's terrifying the depths of cruelty the human race can descend to. You have to wonder how many folks young and old throughout time were silenced and no justice was ever served. Kevin thanks again for the education and sharing these sobering historic events.
I don't understand it either. I never finished this video but I still get Notifs. Good people comment here.
They may have gotten away with it in life, but they paid the price in Hell.
@@TheGrwhi065 that's for sure!
I’ve never been able to get it. Reminds me of what happened on October 7th last year. 😢
I believe they are often referred to as ghosts. 😢
I’m just so viscerally disgusted by cowardice. The men who were told what was happening and failed to intervene and the men on the second jury deserve nothing but shame.
Shame on the men? Surely shame on that evil woman. Or does it agitate you that the main perpetrator was female. Feminists oh dear.
Happens today too if the offender is an influential politician. He just buys his version of truth. Unfortunately everybody has a price.
Men were simping harder then than they are now.
I mean what exactly do we think is happening RIGHT NOW?!? We live in a world controlled by men, which has effectively groomed entire generations of young girls into being sex workers today. Grown men in their forties and fifties (all the way up to a hundred) who are happy to consume their "content", while pretending to be faithful and devoted, fathers and husbands!😂 This is WHAT men are. Disgusting and predatory. If history tells us anything at all... it's that men in general should not have power of women of any age, as they will always abuse that power.
@@TheBluePony3unfortunately it is that way. Same when a woman 'forces' herself onto a man. Its met with mockery and 'you're a man you should like it'
Sorry that happened to you. :(
after the first girl went to the hospital and told what was going on, how did they allow them to keep anymore girls? So disgusting that someone can be so cruel.
Good ol civilization.
Men... it is always just men.
Still happens in Canada , Europe and all around the world . Sad but true.
@@sarahalderman3126Interesting that a woman was one of the persons doing the most abuse.
@@TkT8PR I mean… sure. Congrats on the observation? All the countless men within the chain and systems that could’ve helped or prevented this from happening, even doing something as small as investigating this girls stories completely slipped the minds of all of them
I'm speechless that a mother and father could be so heartless towards children. Thank you for speaking these young girls names.
Unfortunately, modernity is perfectly capable of creating monsters with human faces.
Why? The girls weren't their children. Also it makes no sense to be speechless regarding this when the brutalities of slavery even towards children, for example are known. The fact that these girls weren't enslaved or non European makes no difference. They were members of an underclass and therefore in the minds of psychopaths, worthless.
@@ginnyanntonick Modernity? So the ritual human sacrifice found in almost all pre-Christian pagan religions is a product of "modernity"? You should try learning history without bias.
@@CandiceGoddard 🤣
@@CandiceGoddardperhaps she is hoping for better behavior from supposedly civilized Christians, which is what they were supposed to be. That they behaved worse than ancient pagans makes it even worse.
The brutality of the entire family is almost beyond belief. I wonder how the surviving girls fared in their lives after they were removed from their torture. Thank you for the story. Cheers from Texas.
Hi David, yes I wondered that and tried to find out but there's nothing out there. I just hope they managed to find some happiness in their subsequent lives.
Have a good weekend 👍🏻
Mary Mitchell and Mary Jones might have wanted this horror to be forgotten. Still seems weird that there was no record of them afterwards. Could they have changed names at that time due to the crimes against them?
@@deed5811 It's not weird. They were members of the lowest social class and probably illiterate as mentioned in the video so unable to record their own histories. There's absolutely no mention of MOST people from the same socio-economic class and even though the girls escaped, it doesn't mean that anyone would have particularly helped them and made a record of their lives because quite frankly what would have been more interesting in the case would be the gory details and the motives of the killers.
When I was at uni studying archaeology the first thing we were taught was to not interpret the past according to our own standards or morals, but try to get into the mindset of the people at that time. With all due respect, people like you seem to have a very delusional interpretation of history. These people were socio-economically beneath most domestic servants in a medium to large sized household and atrocities like this were not rare.
In the same time period, which was the early industrial period btw, lots of poor families sold their children into apprenticeships knowing that many would not survive their teens. There are stories about how teenagers died being ground up in early machinery or having their limbs torn off. Old people who could no longer work would commit suicide so as not to be a burden and mothers who were out breast feeding rich women's children would enrol their own babies in death lotteries, hoping the children would die as the pay out was sometimes more than their yearly salary.
No record??? None!! I want to know more about them. @@thehistorysquad
@@deed5811 They're very common names, and there was no paperwork other than church records for most people.
Mary clifford. Mary mitchell. Mary jones. Thanks for naming the victims.
Any Marys should watch out.
I was about to ask for clarification. Ty!
bruh they really weren't very imaginative on names huh lol... Mary, Elizabeth, William, Jack.... THATS IT lol
@@robcanisto8635 You do know when this took place right? Time periods and certain countries reflect popular names at the time.
@@sergeantbrother6940it’s a history channel. Everything happened 250 years ago. You Been smoking a little bit to mutch Mary Jane.
This “family” was pure evil. Beyond evil. This is of the most sickening stories I’ve ever heard. The lodger, the neighbors, the apprentices, etc. also deserve condemnation as well for doing absolutely nothing.
Democrats.
An entire family of sadists.
What do you mean the neighbors did nothing? In the video it said they stopped it happening.
@HowardArnold-be9. Shame. Politics of then and today are not remotely similar. And truly evil people crop up without regard of that, anyway.
Thank you for telling this story, and bless you for reminding all of us that it is the victims who should be remembered. They were but children......
Husband and son literally getting away with murder, and just six months for assault - incredible.
But the people who originally just wrote that letter of complaint have to be blamed too, they basically just washed thier hands of all responsibility even though they knew there was still at least one other girl there.
I am very sad to say this happens just as much today. I work in social services and see this all the time. I would love to get my hands on the people who do this. Thank you for your channel
Thank you for doing this thankless and difficult job! ❤
Yea, inequity in society is unfortunately still very prevalent. But, at least there are people like you 😊
People like those in this story make me wsh Tyburn were still in operation.
If you see this all the time then why haven't you reported it to the police? More rubbish coming from the direction of social services.
@@bustestlucloc4630 we do, thought that was obvious
The Brownriggs surely killed more than just this one girl. these people were real life monsters. And human trafficking still happens today.
Those poor girls. It is crazy there are such wicked individuals amongst us
Only keep three of 16 🤔
The beginning of this story was too 😮 horrific to listening to the end for me.
Close our borders.
Interesting statement. I live in Texas, and we just want to follow basic border protocal that the fed gov won't let us do! Without borders and citizenship, there is no country really! I think that is what "those people" in power are doing! UGH...
Makes you wonder about the loss of all those children of their own. Were they innocent of those deaths and it all caused them to lose their minds (especially her), or did one or both of them have a hand in the deaths? What an awful and atrocious, sad and devastating story. -- Thank you, sir, for all you do!
I was thinking the same.
This is one of the most horrific cases I've heard. Those ladies shouldn't have had that happen to them. No idea what could make a whole family think to do anything remotely close to this stuff!
Thank you for your wonderful videos. I recently had a baby, and during that tender newborn first month, I watched your videos while I stayed up to comfort her. You made the nights less lonely and scary! My heart aches for those young girls, I can't even stomach the idea of such happening to my own daughter.
I have no daughter but I can imagine much more happened to these girls than is said here.
May your girl grow up into a better life than you have had and always be able to help you.
Dear God, the poor Girls. The cruelty of some People know no bounds 🤔🤨😔
The Brownrigg's weren't people, they were monsters.
The really sad thing is that something like this has or is probably happening right now somewhere in the US or the world.
Yes God was responsible and acted through the hands of the murderer as usual.
@mrparlanejxtra cringe.
Blaming God for humanity's satanic actions, what a useless mind you have@@mrparlanejxtra
Too little too late. Poor wee lass. This is terrible. Such entitlement! Well told, as always, good sir, you break my heart.
Thank you, William, for speaking up. By then it was too late, but he saw the horrors and actually said something to try and help.
Phenomenal video you did and how wonderful you are to acknowledge those poor girls.
Horrifying. This is really the worst side of humanity.
Thank you for sharing their story. Poor girls… People can be so cruel.
I was anxious about something unrelated when I started watching this video but having finished it now I've realized that my problems are really pretty small and not worth worrying about. God, what a horrific story.
God cares no matter how small it is. Tell Him anyway.
My aunt tells me all the time that my grandmother use to tell her, "Whenever you think you've got it bad just look around, you can always find someone worse off than you. Be thankful." Good advice that's sometimes hard to follow.
You’re presentations are so important and a lot of people would rather not hear about how we all got here! Thanks for helping us remember these people existed.
A much sad and depressing event Kevin, well told and a superb, the cruelty of what some people are capable of (And still do) is beyond normal comprehension. Many thanks. 👏
For her story, hundreds went unnoticed.
Such a vivid account, I don't think I'll forget those poor girls. Thank you for yet another mind expanding session; honestly don't know how you do it, and thank goodness you do!!
Their brutality was absolutely horrific. Thank you for keeping their names alive!
The girls are no longer lost to history as their story was told and many heard it and mourned for them. Thank you!
Greetings once again from Nova Scotia, thank you for a somewhat darker tale. We are capable of such terrible actions, it never ceases to amaze me how evil some are, no grasp of right and wrong. The more I learn about humanity, the more I love my dog... Be safe and as always, best regards. Arthur
I’ve read about this crime, but you were so good at bringing the awfulness to reality
You always tell the stories of the victims with great humanity. Thank you for that. And for not leaving out the gory details. They really do matter!. All the best.
You hear so many horrible stories you start to become desensitised to it, but this really brought home how cruel some people can be. The sadistic nature of the cruelty is so horrendous. Thank you for sharing their story x
I'm only halfway through this video, and my heart is breaking for these poor girls. Thank you for teaching me something about the past, and how the poor were treated by the more fortunate. I'm going to steel myselfand watch the rest of the video now.Thank you very much for posting sir
You are so welcome.
Kevin how in the world do you find these stories? You bring them to life!
I have heard about this case from the tv serious "Deadly Women" a truly horrific case. RIP Mary Clifford, Mary Mitchell and Mary Jones.
Yup
I remember I watch
Thank you MR. Hicks. These sorts of historical stories and the analysis that you give them are wonderful, even if the subject matter is horrific. You do such a great job not only contextualizing them, but you give everything a reasonable weight and do not sensationalize parts that many others here on YT would. I also echo the sentiment from another commenter by saying thank you for naming and validating the victims. Kudos for all your videos and thank you!
Thanks as always for watching 👍🏻
You know somethings abominably brutal when even 1760’s Londoners go, “Damn wtf?”
It was such a harrowing and tragic story, yet at the same time an epic one! Well researched and well told!
Wow brutal times, thanks for remembering the forgotten souls. Cheers Kevin, great story.
Sylvia Marie Likens had a similar fate in the USA in 1965
God bless you for the compassion you showed for those girls. May they rest in peace.
As former police officers in large metropolitan cities we have both seen the horrible things people will do to one another.
Very well done on this heart rending tale, how many possible similar cases were there over the years we can only surmise! RIP to the dear innocents.
Once more you pushed back the limits of horror! We are beyond madness here. Good story as usual.
You’re a great story teller Kevin, what a sad and expertly described true story. Keep up the good work, friend.
...the veneer of civilization is VERY THIN...! 😢😱
I’m glad you brought that point up about the poor girls, the victims, being largely forgotten! That is the sad truth in most cases and it should be the other way around!
Hi Kev!
Yet another riveting story mate. It always amazes me how people, can treat other people, in such a horrific way. Those girls really suffered!
As per usual, this presentation was obviously meticulously researched. I waited to watch this until I got home, so I could watch it on my big TV rather than my phone. Keep the great stories coming please!
My best wishes as always to you and Julie.
Dave.
Cheers Dave, have a wonderful weekend 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Thanks! You too!
Thank you for this intresting story,Mr Hicks.
So happy to see new
content from you! One of my favorite channels!❤
Well...now that I've watched it...not so happy. But I appreciate your telling the stories.
😜 I know what you mean, thanks 👍🏻
Thank you Mr. Hicks for your excellent stories, sir.
Mary Clifford not lost to history now thanks to you Kev. and we are glad. As terrible of a story as Mary's was it would not surprise me if something like this is happening today!
Of course this is the old copper in me coming out! Thanks for this grisly tale Kev.
Indeed, but sadly it is still happening today. If I understand correctly a gang in Scotland has just been brought to justice for similar cruelties against children.
Similar things have happened in more recent times, two in particular comes to mind - Sylvia Likens in the US and another one from Japan called Junko Furuta.
In Britain there have been a couple of cases such as the murder of Suzanne Cooper.
@@steves1015The Sylvia Likens story is absolutely horrific. I think group psychosis is at play in these types of murders
Again Kevin another interesting story. It's unbelievable how some people can be so cruel. 👏
What a astonishing story,and the details are are gruesome and so well preserved it seems. Curious about the next story. Goodday sir!
Thanks for listening
Hi Kevin I couldn't believe what I was hearing poor little girls. This was awful treatments for anyone to put up with. May their souls rest in peace. Thank you Kevin for bringing this our attention. A very interesting video as always. Love to you and your family. 🌹🌹🌹
How can people be so unbelievably cruel to another...especially children. I truly cannot comprehend.
Thank you for covering this!!
A very gruesome tale of this foul family and unfortunate girls. Such a shame the male perpetrators got away with such a light sentence.
Your research and gripping tale telling are second to non, thank you Kevin 🙏
Cheers Nick 👍🏻
It is an incredible shame that these predators have ALWAYS gotten away with the countless atrocities that they continue to commit against girls and women.
Not to this extent, a couple of my foster brothers suffered greatly at the hands of their guardians. Heartbreaking that abuse like this still happens.
Great video
Kevin Hicks is truly a national treasure. Thank you for providing such an exceptional window into a bygone era.
That’s very kind of you, thanks.
Not only did London have "the great stench" going on, but also the huge homeless population..... London was indeed a dark place
Soon to be again, thanks to voting for liberals.
And yet these days we're called white privileged
Brilliant video Kevin thank you, very distressing and sad but interesting none the less 😊
Lordy Kevin, you have a way of telling a tale. Thanks.
Imagine how much abuse went on that didn't get discovered because it wasn't as severe.
Wow! What a gripping ripper. Quite unlike the usual history I usually find here. History non the less sir. Thank You
Kevin at it again, timing his videos to my bedtime so I get to learn something new before the end of the day
Hope it didn't give you nightmares.
@@thehistorysquad I didn't even look at the title, nor watch the video as I said this. I kicked back in bed after and started the video up and had that "Oh..." moment. Definitely still super interesting and well told story, but hoo boy that was a journey.
Brother Kevin, an enjoyable video, thanks. Have a good weekend.
Cheers Dave, you too!
We are such terrible creatures sometimes. Thank you for the victim's names.
This type of torture exist today, with police, international laws, child protective services, imagine back then? Where none of those existed? Imagine the number of inhuman behavior humans must have had?
Very sad story very well told. I've only recently found your channel and I think it's great. Thanks
Cheers Gary, welcome.
Wow.. sounds like Elizabeth had some serious psychological issues after losing 13 out of 16 children.. she should not have been allowed to oversee those kids. Crazy to think how things used to be. On a lighter note, it’s always a good day when you upload, Kevin! Cheers!
Did she lose them or kill them?
@@bas4903 oohhh good question! I hope she didn’t kill them but I wouldn’t put it past her with the way she acted.
Hi Kevin, another brilliant video despite the horrific crimes committed by Elizabeth, James and John Brownrigg and the unimaginable suffering of those poor girls. I’m from Wiltshire and I know there it’s lots of History here and I’m sure many fascinating stories connected to the county. Do you know of any in particular that jump out?
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That's a frightening thought. Perhaps she did lose them as child mortality was higher in 18th century London.
Though it's possible that some died of neglect or even intentional foul play.
Yes this is due to the abuse she experienced at the hands of the men around her. This is what abuse can do to a person.
This reminds me of the much more recent case of Sylvia Likens. She was an American teenager who was tortured and murdered by her caregiver, Gertrude Baniszewski and her children.
Not quite Downton Abbey was it? All those poor children, guilty of nothing other than being born poor.
Downton Abbey is more fantasy than Lord of the Rings.
@@harkonen1000000 Disneyfied is my word for it.
Thank you for keeping their names & story alive. May their souls RIP. Evil is amongst us
wow, amazing coverage. all the photos too really add to the depth of this case.
Reminds me of the Sylvia Likens case in America in the 50s/60s. Times change but people don't. Absolutely horrific. Thank you for the video, though. Is there any info on the surviving girl's life after?
Sadly not, I did some digging but couldn’t find anything, as I said they were largely lost to time 😕
Yes! Reminded me of Sylvia Likens too. People talk about the brutal olden days, but has anything changed?
I love both your presentation and your personality
recently 'found' your channel been watching the back catalogue...you really make for easy watching, now subscribed,,
Thanks and welcome 👍
I normally don’t comment, but this was one of the harder videos to listen to. Not because it is in anyway boring or dull; but because of the sheer disgust I felt towards this family’s actions and how unjust the punishments towards the males in the family felt.
Though I did smirk when Elizabeth got her due and the manner in which she received it in full.
I had never heard of this dark tale before today, and I thank you for shedding light on it, Kevin.
You really are a world class narrator your narrative could only made me visualise the brutality and sufferings of the poor girl.
Being a lover of English language I have recommended your video to my students so that they can also learn that "every word makes a picture in the listener's mind".
I'm from India and your narrative made me realise how much brutal the looters of England have been to us. And now they are the guardians of humanity.
Sarcastic
Great video and story.👍👍👍
When you tell stories about old London, it seems like hell on earth to me.
Still hasn’t changed.
thank you for telling this story. Love your narration. Humans are the most dangerous species in the world. indeed.
Another video showing empathy and respect for the victims over the notoriety of the perpetrators. Bravo, sir.
What horrible torture, you can certainly tell a story Kevin. Thanks
The abject poverty in London in the 18th and 19th centuries is horrific. I’m almost surprised it took as long as it did for the labor movement to catch on
There were multiple attempts over the centuries to improve English society by reorganising it, from the Peasants' Revolt, through to the Levellers, and on to the unionist movement inspired by the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Power is never surrendered willingly. The conscienceless few are rarely reluctant to abuse the principled many.
I think the lack of action is due to many things. There was so much abuse of the young people in the situation as we have heard of. People who were aware of "groans and screaming" could not do anything of their own accord. The workhouse and constable had to be fetched and even then victims were hidden and perpetrators escaped. Like the countries populated by hundreds of millions of people no one sees the ones that go missing.
I gotta say this man is one heck of a story teller. Tells facts in chronological order. Doesn’t remove details.
Just found you channel. Awesome! Everything I love in a history channel! The storytelling is amazing, & costumes really add to the effect!
Thanks ever so much and welcome to the channel. There's plenty to be catching up on from all periods of time. 👍🏻
Thanks!
Thanks very much for the SUPER, I’m glad you found the video interesting 👍
I think I am addicted to your stories. Thank you for sharing them. God speed.
Once again kev Fantastic my friend
Cheers Mark 👍🏻
Your screen presence is riveting to watch. Solid work. 👌
Thanks!
Dang Kevin I already had a day- you are on it!
Grimly interesting story. The cruelty people are capable of when there is no supervision is horrifying. Glad that things have greatly changed.
Nothing has changed.
@@Vicus_of_Utrecht if you mean that child protective services is ineffective, that’s pretty depressing to hear.
Trouble is that the authorities belief in “innocent till proven guilty” if even a little evidence exists people should be arrested immediately and then examined as to the truth afterwards ! .
@@myrdelgonway5119 oh it's pretty bad. Almost worse than leaving the children with the parents. Yeah, real bad.
@@myrdelgonway5119 I am a tradesman. I've been in thousands of homes. I've seen shit.
This is such a horrid case and such a vile WOMAN(!!) as the perpetrator - proven guilty of these sinister and sadistic crimes, I'm boggled and bewildered that no one has done a true crime taken on it earlier. Just look at other slightly similar cases, like that of Sylvia Likens, where everyone and their mother have done a TH-cam video about it.
At the same time, I'm very happy that YOU are the first one (to my knowledge) to talk about it and you do it with dignity and respect for the victims! ❤❤❤ From the bottom of my heart: Thank you so, so much! God bless you! 🙏❤️❤️❤️
It was hard doing the research for this, but I’m glad you appreciated it 👍
Great video!!! Thank you!!
This Is One of the most terryfing stories, i have ever Heard, i Hope these girls found peace in their lives in the end.
I just discovered your channel. You're a fantastic storyteller! Subscribed right away.
Thanks and welcome 👍🏻
A tragic tale, and it is great that you bring these instances to light. I really think the ignorance of the past is what leads people to say that "modern times are so much dangerous and crime ridden than in the past", when that couldn't be further from the truth. At least now we have better law enforcement and legal systems.
This case also reminds me of what we learned in university - the UK had strict laws in place against the maltreatment of animals, long before it had legislation in place to protect children..
You sir are the king of story telling.
I could listen to you all day.
I was mesmerized, in between being sickened by the abuse of those poor girls, by your superb ability to tell a tale.
Thank you 😊
You know, I'm an agnostic - but if it means that nameless monster has been screaming in agony in the depths of hell for the last 257 years, I will gladly believe. And if it means that Mary Clifford, Mary Jones, and Mary Mitchell, a young woman with more courage in her bones than a million men, are now somewhere in a peaceful, contented place, perhaps reading, chatting idly together and basking in the spring sunshine - then I will believe in a heartbeat.
I agree. I'm a pagan, and it's because of monsters like this that I do believe in Hell.
So, you will believe in God, if it means there is a hell for bad people to suffer in?
That makes no sense. Whether or not you like something doesn’t make it more or less real.
You believe in something because you believe, not because it suits you.
Also, I would hope the idea that your loved ones could be in Paradise would be more motivational than people you’ve never met suffering.
You scare me, sir
This is one of the problems I have with Christianity.
The idea that someone can commit crimes for a maximum of about 70 years, and (compared to what Hell is supposed to be like) have a limited human level of cruelty, yet the perpetrators are then condemned to unimaginable horror for *eternity*!
And then many folk will think this is just?!
Wow... Just wow...
Tbh with a heart like that, I would wonder if you would be likely to join them....
@@steves1015...you need to read and understand what sin is and why Christ came. It's completely logical.
The wiki article for Elizabeth Brownrigg is excellent.