Glad to have you back, as always! With the Simplex (Couch) Chevron Pull at 0:54, my guess is that there probably used to be a 4208 or a 2001 before the 4100+ took its place.
Or maybe even a Simplex 4246, 4247 or 4211 system from the 1960s! They were even around in the very early 1970s alongside the Simplex 4208 when it was new.
Looks like the Simplex 4100 system originally there was installed in the early-to-mid 1990s, I wanna say around 1992 or 1993, as that's when that kind of horn/strobe configuration was typically used on new Simplex systems of the time. Then you have that old Simplex 4251 "Chevron" pull at 0:54, obviously left over from an older system before the Simplex 4100 came in (either when the building was expanded or renovated.)
@@safetech Quick question, How come when you pull the pull station sometimes the alarm double beeps and sometimes it beeps normally? Basically how come sometimes it double beeps quickly? (on walktest). Two examples of the quick short double beeping is 6:07 and 7:32 and an example of them both together at 8:05
@@ImFirstPlace The double beeps mean that the current activated zone is the same as the previous zone. If you pull a pull station on zone 5, then pull another pull station on zone 5, you'll get the double beep the second time. The double beep also represents the digit "zero." Zone 10 would be one beep followed by two quick beeps.
There's a mall/office/residential/hotel complex near me that has a *huge* 4120 (probably at least 30 nodes) with 2902-9732 speakers on 9501 strobe plates in the 1993 areas. Interestingly enough, some of the speakers have been replaced with Simplex megaphone speakers - on the strobe plates. There's also some passageways that have the speakers mounted next to Gentex GXS strobes for some reason. The complex has undergone many expansions over the years, so there's a LOT of variety.
Not trying to tell you how to do your job but... You really should pull the stations. I have come across several pull stations that either won't pull, or pulled and failed to actuate the switch, but worked fine with opening and closing the cover.
Good point I agree but the main reason for not pulling the pull station is the fact that they are loaded with break rods. You wouldn't want to break them and need to replace them. Also, in the description it says this is a horn/strobe test and pull stations get tested at a different time of the year.
The point of this test was to ensure all notification appliances function as intended after a panel replacement. The pull stations were likely already functionality tested 6 months prior and/or right after the panel replacement.
My high school had 9838 horns on a Simplex 4002. During the summer of 2017, they replaced the entire System with a Napco Firewolf panel and Spectralert Advances
There's quite a similarity between this and my Mini Test 70 video. 1. The main alarms of this building is similar to the retrofit combo I used (except the strobe plate in my video does not use a reflector). 2. This video was published on the same day the 2020 re-upload of Mini Test 70 was published (originally uploaded to my old channel in two parts back in 2014). 3. Both videos share the same "test number" (for lack of better words) of 70. To be fair, I didn't plan for it to work this way as that I technically uploaded Mini Test 70 to my channel (along with many others) way back in April.
Hey there, it’s been quite a while since you’ve uploaded anything. Anyways, do you know when this video was taken? And also not to mention this, I’ve actually got a Simplex pull station that looks pretty much exactly like what‘s seen in this video!
Well the 4100 from 1996 at my high school I went to. It needs a upgrade bad. Because it’s starting to die. The display does not work anymore. The last time I was there it kept going into trouble a lot. They is also a 4208 there but it only runs the three 4050s that are left there. The rest of the 4050s got replaced with true alerts around late 2009 or early 2010. But a advance replaced one 4050 that died mid 2009.
There's what the system is Simplex Truealerts (4903-9425's) Simplex 2901-9846's and 4901-9805's on 4904 strobe plates 4904 remote strobes Simplex T-Bars Coding: Continuous
Hahaha those alarms. Reminds me of elementary school. Same ones but without strobes. They sound like ducks, but some are semitones apart and when they're harmonizing with each other it sounds demonic. My high school had the True Alerts. Those weren't as interesting.
This uses the walk test function? Is walk test only used for testing of the pull stations? Do any other fire panel manufacturers have a walk test function? What is the “drill” function?
Sorry that this is 1 year late. But new panels usually have a Walk test feature to limit the noise that people hear while the system is in testing. Walk test is used to test all Notification devices and not just testing of the pull stations. Its just a more quiter option if there is occupants in the building. The drill function is A Function that Puts the panel in Fire drill service, basically notifying the FD that a Drill is taking place and not to respond. Although some places still have them on site just in case but Most places do their own drills with the drill button, plus I believe you pay the FD Directly when these drills take place, so it makes things easier
So I'm guessing you silent walk test the smokes and audible walk test the pulls to verify they actually work since you can't tell with older devices that don't have the LED.
0:53 Pull Station #1 1:53 Pull Station #2 2:39 Pull Station #3 3:08 Pull station #4 3:25 Pull Station #5 3:56 Pull Station #6 4:32 Pull Station #7 5:15 Pull Station #8 5:38 Pull Station 9 6:05 Pull Station 10 7:23 Pull station 11 10:20 fire drill Note: if anyone don’t want me to create this TimeStamps Please let me know I will take this comment down if requested
Huh, both the horn at 4:02 and the panel's piezo at 9:41 suffered slight pitch changes for whatever reason. 10:25 Continuous, what a surprise...frankly if this was a panel upgrade shouldn't the system have been set on Temporal Code 3 as specified in NFPA 72? So many of your videos show systems that had the panel upgraded yet left on the same code they (supposedly) were originally, even though NFPA 72 should forbid doing so. Still though, nice video, nothing like mechanical horns.
In most cases the local AHJ allows for it given no drastic changes out in the field. I believe there may have been some coding issues with this install early on with some sig circuits becoming left open, EOL issues, ect.
Its strange that this is a reoccurring thing. My high school is probably one of few systems that actually switched the coding over to code 3 after a 4100es was installed.
@@safetech To be honest that makes no sense as NFPA 72, along with all the other standards they set, are NATIONAL/FEDERAL standards, thus I'm pretty sure they MUST be followed and CANNOT be overridden by a state-level organization or otherwise anyone below the federal government.
Not saying that its right however there are instances where AHJ can have final authority if their point proves more stringent. Not sure what their final argument in this case.
@@officialsimplexguy Actually, Continuous Is Becoming More Prone Oddly Nowdays, I wouldn't be suprised if The Coding Requirement Goes back to Continuous Or By Regional Choice Honestly. In my Opinion, Non-Temporal(Continuous) Works a Hell of a Lot better in Evacuations Due to Some devices Being Unbearable To hear when its not coded. Truthfully, I'd Code Systems On Continuous If there's no need to Do A Code Change, Especially When the Devices are old and They still work. I'll do my best to sync the devices strobewise, But a Signal Coding Change is Really Stupid, And Cost A Hell of a Lot
Could you please hold your camera upright if you are allowed to show us the buildings? -I get dizzy watching you walking with camera view on the floor😂
4:02 that sound tho.
Fire alarm said "Auugh"
My guess is that it said what's up to em lol
It’s probably a different model, or it could be broken.
@@JacobPrater-x3g possible, may be the pitch knob wasn't turned properly
The reverberating harmony of the mechanical horns are great.
We missed you SAFETECH! Welcome back!😃
Thank you!
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Nice system! Loving the old mechanical horns.
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You're welcome.
I memorized all of the floor patterns! Thank you for filming it! :)
Glad to have you back, as always!
With the Simplex (Couch) Chevron Pull at 0:54, my guess is that there probably used to be a 4208 or a 2001 before the 4100+ took its place.
Or maybe even a Simplex 4246, 4247 or 4211 system from the 1960s! They were even around in the very early 1970s alongside the Simplex 4208 when it was new.
Looks like the Simplex 4100 system originally there was installed in the early-to-mid 1990s, I wanna say around 1992 or 1993, as that's when that kind of horn/strobe configuration was typically used on new Simplex systems of the time. Then you have that old Simplex 4251 "Chevron" pull at 0:54, obviously left over from an older system before the Simplex 4100 came in (either when the building was expanded or renovated.)
I’m so glad your back safetech missed you
Same!
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@@safetech Quick question, How come when you pull the pull station sometimes the alarm double beeps and sometimes it beeps normally? Basically how come sometimes it double beeps quickly? (on walktest). Two examples of the quick short double beeping is 6:07 and 7:32 and an example of them both together at 8:05
@@ImFirstPlace The double beeps mean that the current activated zone is the same as the previous zone. If you pull a pull station on zone 5, then pull another pull station on zone 5, you'll get the double beep the second time. The double beep also represents the digit "zero." Zone 10 would be one beep followed by two quick beeps.
@@BigGreenFireAlarms Oh thank you for the response that is really great to know.
I love the old Simplex alarms. Welcome back M80!
Ah yes, the harmony of sweet mechanical horns
There's a mall/office/residential/hotel complex near me that has a *huge* 4120 (probably at least 30 nodes) with 2902-9732 speakers on 9501 strobe plates in the 1993 areas. Interestingly enough, some of the speakers have been replaced with Simplex megaphone speakers - on the strobe plates. There's also some passageways that have the speakers mounted next to Gentex GXS strobes for some reason.
The complex has undergone many expansions over the years, so there's a LOT of variety.
The Prudential Center lmao
Sounds like a very cool system.
Not trying to tell you how to do your job but... You really should pull the stations.
I have come across several pull stations that either won't pull, or pulled and failed to actuate the switch, but worked fine with opening and closing the cover.
Good point I agree but the main reason for not pulling the pull station is the fact that they are loaded with break rods. You wouldn't want to break them and need to replace them.
Also, in the description it says this is a horn/strobe test and pull stations get tested at a different time of the year.
The point of this test was to ensure all notification appliances function as intended after a panel replacement. The pull stations were likely already functionality tested 6 months prior and/or right after the panel replacement.
Those horns are very healthy sounding
Gotta love vintage Simplex
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My high school had 9838 horns on a Simplex 4002. During the summer of 2017, they replaced the entire System with a Napco Firewolf panel and Spectralert Advances
A Napco Firewolf? Usually when I see older Simplex alarms get replaced with SpectrAlert Advances, the panel is Fire-Lite or Notifier...
Zak Wolf same here. Guess that’s what the company chose to install
Dude that sucks. I hate seeing classic systems replaced especially with Advances 🙄
They should've kept it
There's quite a similarity between this and my Mini Test 70 video.
1. The main alarms of this building is similar to the retrofit combo I used (except the strobe plate in my video does not use a reflector).
2. This video was published on the same day the 2020 re-upload of Mini Test 70 was published (originally uploaded to my old channel in two parts back in 2014).
3. Both videos share the same "test number" (for lack of better words) of 70.
To be fair, I didn't plan for it to work this way as that I technically uploaded Mini Test 70 to my channel (along with many others) way back in April.
matrix confirmed!!?!??! (joke)
Interesting. First upload in 2020
Hey there, it’s been quite a while since you’ve uploaded anything. Anyways, do you know when this video was taken? And also not to mention this, I’ve actually got a Simplex pull station that looks pretty much exactly like what‘s seen in this video!
I think the model number is 2099-9754, which is slightly different from the one seen in the video as the one seen in the video is addressable.
The ones on this video are 2099-9761.
ItzMeYamYT Elevators, Roblox, and more! I have a Simplex 2099-9754.
Thanks for viewing! It was earlier this year.
JimLiElevators ah same here
Nice video, and glad to see you back on here!
Nice to see you back!
Great video safetech.
Great video.. missed ya safetech!!
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Is that a confederate flag
Well the 4100 from 1996 at my high school I went to. It needs a upgrade bad. Because it’s starting to die. The display does not work anymore. The last time I was there it kept going into trouble a lot. They is also a 4208 there but it only runs the three 4050s that are left there. The rest of the 4050s got replaced with true alerts around late 2009 or early 2010. But a advance replaced one 4050 that died mid 2009.
I love those mechanical horns.
Great video 😀👍👍
Love the classic Simplex system!
There's what the system is
Simplex Truealerts (4903-9425's)
Simplex 2901-9846's and 4901-9805's on 4904 strobe plates
4904 remote strobes
Simplex T-Bars
Coding: Continuous
Nice to know that
Mostly 9846s but 5 9838s
Yep. and One of the 4904's has a 9805 on it.
We missed ya! Good stuff as always!
Yeahhh!!! My boy ain't dead fam!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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I must say that’s a rather nice sounding system! Must be a pretty large system for how many codes it’s doing on walk test.
Somewhat large.
Yay your back!! Nice video!
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Well Done! Those the best Fire Alarms! I love it!
Amazing system love simplex great video keep up the good work
Good Morning Nice Video I Had Those Old alarms In My High School. Very Loud.
I’m pretty sure that’s a 2901-9846 on 4903-9105 and the TrueAlert is probably around 4903s
Some of the 9846s aren’t syncable just like the 9838 in my High School
Nice see you again sir... greag job for your job
Say, you wouldn't happen to have a dress plate for one of these panels, would you? I am looking for a 2-bay 4100ES dress panel
4:01 - Singing off key?
Ayooo 😂
I wish my school had simplex honestly its so cool
Missed you safetech
Thanks for viewing glad to be back!
1:57-2:03 sounds like my elementary school
Hahaha those alarms. Reminds me of elementary school. Same ones but without strobes. They sound like ducks, but some are semitones apart and when they're harmonizing with each other it sounds demonic. My high school had the True Alerts. Those weren't as interesting.
0:30 nice sound mic of the sounders
havent watch ur videos for 2 years
The harmony of horns
4:03 Sounds like a funny horn. 😄
My middle schools band room had one exactly like it
The screws on the horn are most likely very tigjt
YES! Been waiting for test 70!
4:02 That alarm had a stroke for a second.
No, that horn is about dead
@@keithgreene8489 No. It's a glitch within the end of line resistors.
interesting
Bout time another video was made!!
Nice video. Love the system. I hope to get my hands on one of those horn/strobe plate combos. I got a bunch of 4903s but nothing else.
Welcome back safetech
OMG I MISSED YOU SAFETECH
Thank you! Glad to be back.
4:00 Wait what do I sound like again? Oh yeah!
This uses the walk test function? Is walk test only used for testing of the pull stations? Do any other fire panel manufacturers have a walk test function?
What is the “drill” function?
Sorry that this is 1 year late. But new panels usually have a Walk test feature to limit the noise that people hear while the system is in testing. Walk test is used to test all Notification devices and not just testing of the pull stations. Its just a more quiter option if there is occupants in the building.
The drill function is A Function that Puts the panel in Fire drill service, basically notifying the FD that a Drill is taking place and not to respond. Although some places still have them on site just in case but Most places do their own drills with the drill button, plus I believe you pay the FD Directly when these drills take place, so it makes things easier
@Marc Leslie Forgot that piece. Thanks
Nice!
Were you taking a break because of the coronavirus
No im working through it. Been a lot busier.
If an pull station is not addressable, dose it just code out zero?
seems like this was a mixed system between mechanical horns and truealerts
yep, we got some Simplex mechanical horns on 4904-9105 strobe plates. and i believe the truealerts are the 4903-9425 which is the Free Run model.
It’s been about 6 months
So I'm guessing you silent walk test the smokes and audible walk test the pulls to verify they actually work since you can't tell with older devices that don't have the LED.
Yes in many cases I do although this building has only 1 smoke and a few ducts being it is fully sprinkled.
that's a cool looking gym at 8:21
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Are those 9838s
They are most likely 2901-9846s
There 2901 9846s
I love fire alarms
0:53 Pull Station #1
1:53 Pull Station #2
2:39 Pull Station #3
3:08 Pull station #4
3:25 Pull Station #5
3:56 Pull Station #6
4:32 Pull Station #7
5:15 Pull Station #8
5:38 Pull Station 9
6:05 Pull Station 10
7:23 Pull station 11
10:20 fire drill
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Cool video man!
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I think you commented in the wrong video.
Why was the panel changed out but so much of an aged system left untouched?
Original panel had damage due to building lightning strike. Field devices weren’t affected.
It’s been a long time since you did your last testing video
Yep been crazy busy lately. Glad to still be around though.
Finally made something
4:05 That Alarm Skipped to a another pitch the 9838 in my High School did that back in the day not to common
Have you ever had a system fail a test in a spectacular fashion?
Do you only inspect simplex?
He does multiple brands
Nope I pretty much do it all.
Yes!!
4:03 EEEO OOOO OOOO
Those are so loud on continuous
We miss you
Huh, both the horn at 4:02 and the panel's piezo at 9:41 suffered slight pitch changes for whatever reason.
10:25 Continuous, what a surprise...frankly if this was a panel upgrade shouldn't the system have been set on Temporal Code 3 as specified in NFPA 72? So many of your videos show systems that had the panel upgraded yet left on the same code they (supposedly) were originally, even though NFPA 72 should forbid doing so.
Still though, nice video, nothing like mechanical horns.
In most cases the local AHJ allows for it given no drastic changes out in the field. I believe there may have been some coding issues with this install early on with some sig circuits becoming left open, EOL issues, ect.
Its strange that this is a reoccurring thing. My high school is probably one of few systems that actually switched the coding over to code 3 after a 4100es was installed.
@@safetech To be honest that makes no sense as NFPA 72, along with all the other standards they set, are NATIONAL/FEDERAL standards, thus I'm pretty sure they MUST be followed and CANNOT be overridden by a state-level organization or otherwise anyone below the federal government.
Not saying that its right however there are instances where AHJ can have final authority if their point proves more stringent. Not sure what their final argument in this case.
@@officialsimplexguy Actually, Continuous Is Becoming More Prone Oddly Nowdays, I wouldn't be suprised if The Coding Requirement Goes back to Continuous Or By Regional Choice Honestly. In my Opinion, Non-Temporal(Continuous) Works a Hell of a Lot better in Evacuations Due to Some devices Being Unbearable To hear when its not coded. Truthfully, I'd Code Systems On Continuous If there's no need to Do A Code Change, Especially When the Devices are old and They still work. I'll do my best to sync the devices strobewise, But a Signal Coding Change is Really Stupid, And Cost A Hell of a Lot
Why do you not keep going After you pulled the pull station?
huge simplex system
What's the intro music
I've got those at my school
#70 dude
Can you make videos of a fire alarm test 5 16 33 35 please
4:02 that alarm hit puberty
That alarms balls dropped 🤣🤣🤣
I just ordered a B key and plan on going somewhere and opening a pull station for fun
This is cool
4:02 what the heck?
What type of code is this?
It's walk test. The coding is Continuous at the end.
Where was this
Cool!
Thank you!
Old and new alarms and stations
Could you please hold your camera upright if you are allowed to show us the buildings? -I get dizzy watching you walking with camera view on the floor😂
He's point the camera down because of privacy.
4:03 lol
4:02 it was trying to sing the box by roddy rich
Yay!
I hate walk tests😑😑
Then don't watch the video.
I like. It
4:02 OMG WHAT HAPPENED
Do a faraday 6226-w & siemens u-hnh-mcs & u-hnh-s17 fire alarm walk test at a school