POV: it’s 2075, your grandson is visiting and you and your friend open the shed, pull off the cover. It’s all dusty and a b series presents itself. the grandkids start whispering about the story’s they have heard, about how these motors where legends. you put in some new gas, prime it and slowly hear the car turn over. then it starts. b series idling like a absolute unit. so you decide to do one last pull and show them what it’s about. pull in 3rd gear. The engine is screaming they feel VTEC for the first time. Screaming 9k rpm 4 cylinder. And they fall in love with hondas
You’d have to put ethanol in it and burn a chip tune with a richer fuel map for the ethanol since I doubt gasoline would be around in 2075, but that would be cool :)
I’m old-school, I love the sound of the B series VTEC. The K series is excellent too and I’ve never owned a car with a K series, but I’ve driven in a couple many times. I still prefer the B series. I love the originality of the design. That was during the time when Soichiro Honda was still alive, even though he was retired before he passed Aug 5, 1991. He still oversaw the creation of a legendary quality engine, that was housed by The NSX, the Prelude, the Integra Type R, the Legend, & Civic Type R.
i belive nsx have V6 engine from C series not B series also C30A that was in NSX was pretty much a frank from other C series engine then C32B came with its biggest modification being special cylinder sleeves so they cound have really thin cylinder walls to fit bigger pistons it was essentially a bored out C30A and it worked out great in my opinion also as u mentioned B series do you know about B21? that was quite interesting variant and probably most of us will never see this engine in person heh thats a shame because it looks nothing like B series
@@OGNISTYSZKQAJDIII think he meant buy that he prefers the first generation of vtec over gen 2 IVTEC I mean nothing beats the sound of mechanical VTEC engagement🤷🏽♂️
@@xx_ironman77_xx1 the fuck you mean by mechanical vtec engagement its only mechanical i-vtec is vtec with variable valve timing it is a mechanical system!!!!!!!! wtf
Yes i agree , i owned a dc2r, and drove my friends 2012? Civic Si sedan many times, When dohc vtec hits ? Wow Seems like the ivtec averaged the output.
B engines are legendary, but K series just improved on that formula, big-time. You can't really argue that K series engines aren't superior. Honda surely spent many millions of dollars to research the improvements going into the K series from the B series. But hey, the timing chain alone had sold me! I'm absolutely going to pick up a K24A2 swap for the EG.
@@Triggernlfrl I say that because it's literally the same block design as B series, just with a girdle/midpiece. What similarities does it share with the H series?
K series all day now. You can fully build a b series all motor with aggressive cams just to hit what a stock K makes with bolt ons lol. Parts are more available for K series now to
I've got both currently 97 civic hatch w/ stock k24a2/5speed trans on boost w/built engine being put together on the side, and 98' civic hatch DD a ls swap turbo w/ ready to go semi built LsV and lsd/carbon synchro gsr trans, I love boost and understand the longevity is possibly a concern depending on circumstances and maintenance but I love both platforms ❤
if you have to choose between either which one would you go with? my next build is going to be between a b or a k since i’ve only experienced a k20 in my fg2
I have a b18c5, and lsvtec and honestly bang for your buck lsvtec is probably the best for price to put and for future plans for boost.. I spent like 100 on a b18b block and 350 for gsr head and seems to me like the best way to make a cheap slow car super fun.. and I’m going to turbo it soon.. I also have an H series h23a vtec I’m going to use soon too.. I think H series is slept on but sooner or later I’ll start with my first k series but I need to put my research in..
Yeah to learn about a new platform is always difficult, but you'll be glad you did since parts can be difficult to find depending on where you live for b series.
*_I got to go with the original Type R motor from the 97 EK. 🔥 B series I also saw a recent video where someone managed to pull 2000whp from a B series motor._*
Everyone always chooses the k series, but in the end, nothing compares to the simplicity of a b series. You want to know which one is really better, look at the top 10 fastest fwd cars in the world right now. They’re all b series, besides one car that is a BILLET K series, none of those cars on that list are billet b series, just stock castings. The proof is there, no one wants to acknowledge it.
Always on point! Luckily for me, I started hoarding B series parts a few years ago. Part of me wants to save them so I can build a period correct build, but damn the prices they fetch will let me do a K-Swap pretty easily lol
The B series is better suited to “canyon carving” where staying in the rev range is more desirable, K series is if you’re looking into forced induction or straight line acceleration
What if you already got a full forged rod piston gsr swap and top mount turbo kit and hondata would you swap to go all k series turbo? if you was a drag racer I worry about the risk of hurting the b series due to expensive repair cost, repairs on k would be cheaper if you damaged a head /transmission/ block Id think..
That depends. CRX’s are becoming quite rare and expensive as well. It might be better to drop in a B and set the SOHC aside rather than hacking up the car to do a K-swap.
I own a B18C5, K20Z3, and soon a K24A2. I choose K Series all day. It's the better engine. However, for any 80's-early 00's Hondas, I choose the B Series.
I think I commented on an older video about this a few days ago and my answer was and will remain the K series I will say if you have a factory B series car like a type R or an em1 I can understand keeping the B series in it but if you have a blown engine or just a shit B series then swap it to a K there’s absolutely no reason not to K swap especially when you can go pull a K from the original car it came in and know exactly how many miles compared to a B swap for the same price that’s been through 20 different cars and no knowledge on the engines history. I couldn’t advise someone to B swap when the K series is an all around better platform
K-series has the advantage of being a clockwise spinning engine. This makes it usable in non-Honda platforms such as Miatas, 240SX’s, old VW’s, and many, many more. Trying to swap a B-series (or H-series) engine into one of these platforms would result in either a single forward gear and multiple reverse gears, or would require costly modifications (such as custom differential cases allowing the diff to be flipped) to rectify this problem. This is why you never saw B or H series engines in anything but Hondas back in the day (despite any advantages these engines had over other manufacturer’s four cylinder engines). On the other hand, B-series just fits better into older Hondas. Try dropping a K-series into a CRX and see how well it fits. B-series is a much more natural fit, and doesn’t require such things as cutting and welding mounts or holes in the hood. Electronics are also much simpler. If you want a swap that is an easier and better fit in your old Honda, B-series is the way to go.
The B series is getting more expensive due to mutliple factors: 1) stocks are decreasing 2) inflation we are all experiencing and 3) Strength of its economy being near 25% smaller that a K20 and near 50% smaller than a K24 4) When it comes to Hp per Litre, only theType R K20 has a better HP/Litre ratio and that is only by a small margin when compared to comparable Type R B16B or Type R B18C 5) With dwindling stocks enthusiast customers are the only ones more prepared to pay higher prices to keep their cars genuine or period correct keeping/boosting prices high. This period is separating the casual owners (novelty owners, image, speed motivated owner) and the genuine enthusiasts.
I've had many B series since 2006. One was a LS VTEC that was built. I bought a Rsx type s and did basic bolt ons with a cat delete and had it tuned with Kpro. It will out preform any built, tuned B series I've ever had. I love B series still but definitely prefer K series. They respond much better to small mods and a tune.
Heck ya man thanks for making this video. I've been following you for a long time and I'm starting to ask myself this question now that I'm planning on upgrading my GS-R
B series. You mentioned prices not coming down but really that's for the Type R engines. The common engines are still very cheap and plentiful. I don't know about where you live but here in Puerto Rico those cars sold like hot cakes. The K series is much more expensive here because it's generally considered the "better engine" even though the B series can get you what you want and thensome. The allure that having a K swapped car means you're cool and gives you street cred has lead many to believe the B series isn't as good. But I assure you that for the age of the engine in question, it is just as good. Most people want somewhere around 500HP and would swap a K in just because it can take it with stock internals, but if you built your B you wouldn't need to buy a new engine/transmission combo with all the supporting accessories and items to do the swap. Could've just built your B. And even if your Civic doesn't have a B and it has a D series in it, the aftermarket support is still there for it and the internet has proved you can build a D series to a reliable 500HP and some more. I'd argue for street use just stick to your D series, it gives you more street cred in my eyes than doing another K swap.
It's important to mention that the VAST vast majority of K-series engines feature economy car cylinder heads and economy i-VTEC, which are fundamentally different from their performance counterparts. Not all K engines are made equal. All variants of the B16A are fully ready for performance tuning, but tuning an economy K series is more difficult and expensive. Very few K engines made are actually worth tinkering with, especially here in the US.
Granted the B series is a lot easier to swap but in 2023 the prices are getting ridiculous and not to mention that parts are only going to get harder to come by. And from my understanding of the K series engines are just B series engines but upgraded. And K series are getting a lot easier to swap while keeping ac and power steering thanks to K tuned and various other companies making B/K series swaps so much easier and affordable while retaining ac and power steering. The main reason why I haven't went K series is because I want to keep my ac because our summers here in the southeastern US is almost insufferable lol. And I don't really want to swap my EJ subframe for a EG subframe just to keep my ac and power steering. But at the same time K series is going to be the only affordable way to go with an abundance of parts and the amount of K series engines that were produced outnumber the B series. I guess it goes back to what you prefer and if money isn't a problem then I say go B series or even J series.
B Series All Day and Everyday. Bought a Dart B20 block and built it to the teeth. Ive had the same B16 head for almost 25 years. Every 1 1/2 years do a fresh rebuild and off again. Im hard on engines but im also one of those people who can do a rebuild in a weekend, barring of course any major machine work. Theyre bullet proof. I just like to rebuild my own engines. K Series is nice, but damn, they are expensive. Building a B Series is almost 50% easier.
Parts for b series are hard rn and only getting worse a fully built. All motor B series may push 200 to 20 when the K2 four stock comes out the gate with 240.
Both performance and cost, K series.. you can't deny it's almost all around a better engine, literally compare the torque curve of an over squared b18 and over squared k20.. both the 20 and 24 stomp the older generations as much as the b and even d series builds are cool.
To extend this more into the economic field, the k24a4 is nasty... and dirt cheap easy 400 whp (especially with the 2.4's, the torque curve is amazing compared to any of the old gen motors.. even the F & H series)
B Series. It's about the experience at this point. Your grandmother's tesla will rip your face off. So now it's about how much you enjoy it. B series is a lot of fun. Sad to see it go. The 6 speed on the K just doesn't do it for me.
Well I think do you want power or you want to show that you have a b series and keeping it old school I’ve own both but I notice power wise and money k series
k series have some downsights for someone that doesnt know much 160hp k20 may seem like a good swap to make some power but imagine how sad these guys are when they want to increase power and found out that A3 have integrated collector into the head and making power from these is not possible without finding different head and gettting proper head for these cost same as whole A3 engine 🤣
@@kanestalin7246 160hp & 117tq. It used a ys1 cable transmission but I guess it was slightly different with a shorter final drive and different input shaft. I've only seen one in person like 20 years ago in a parking lot meet
K series is a better engine, being updated by Honda and improving on the B series. But for my DB8 im staying B series. I like being period correct and i think nothing sounds as good as an all motor B series screaming to its redline. Currently running a 13.5 comp B20v on e85 nitrous
B is cheaper Parts might be hard to find the quotient you but I find them all the time in the junkyard when it comes to the k I cannot find it in the junkyard they want a lot of money for it and it's harder to build and it takes real money to build the k. B all day long the only thing I have against the B is it's only a 5-speed it should be a 6-speed
i believe more guys are doing b series turbo setups for cost, the b18c has a pretty bullet proof engine but both the b series and k series give up once u hit around 1600whp, too much boost after that but the k series will hold every record soon.
The problem I'm dealing with I was ready to boost & build my gsr dc2 has a full jdm itr swap but now I'm scared to blow it up since they want like 10k🤯 in the depot now crazy now I'm leaving it bone stock & im going to buy a dc shell ls want a rs but so hard to find & ima just k swap that shell & beat the piss out of it if it blows I'll pick another k24 from a tsx in a junkyard for a few hundred
The d series is better than the b series. You can compare the b20 to the k20a2. That's a tall order. Comparing any b series to a k24 Frankenstein is an absurdity. Honda needs to make a 3.0-4.5 liters 4 cylinder next. It would get its rpm at 1000 -1600 and once again make V8 irrelevant. V6 has a stiffer crankshaft than both and does have more rotating mass to add to the valve area at high rpm while having only slightly smaller bore than the 4 cylinder because they atr spread out in a 90 degree configuration. V8 are impractical. A 5.7 liter 4 cylinder would have twice the bore and stroke than a V8 getting its rpm at 800 and would be 500-600 torque with 250 to -400 horsepower. That's why Honda doesn't build them. Lets consider you have a 3.4 liter quad 4 Oldsmobile 4 cylinder and a 5.7 liter dohc lq1 V6. If the four cylinder is going to get its torque at 1000 rpm the 5.7 dohc V6 will get its torque at 1800 rpm and rev to 5700. The power band would never drop off you would sacrifice having not having luscious 1000 rpm maximum torque. Going from 0-40 would be spontaneous with in the 3.4 4 cylinder while the 5.7 V6 would rev for quicker acceleration from 40-60 MPH . The 5.7 V8 would not beat the 3.4 quad 4 cylinders or the 5.7 lq1 6 cylinders. The 5.7 quad ohc 4 cylinder would get its rpm at 800 and idle down the road. Using no gas. It would be instant acceleration 0-40 faster than a tesla
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Yes I want to do it with B's series I'm trying right now working on it
POV: it’s 2075, your grandson is visiting and you and your friend open the shed, pull off the cover. It’s all dusty and a b series presents itself. the grandkids start whispering about the story’s they have heard, about how these motors where legends. you put in some new gas, prime it and slowly hear the car turn over. then it starts. b series idling like a absolute unit. so you decide to do one last pull and show them what it’s about. pull in 3rd gear. The engine is screaming they feel VTEC for the first time. Screaming 9k rpm 4 cylinder. And they fall in love with hondas
Comment of the year 😂
I hope our cars last that long
"Nani granpapi! A honda B16B! But we thought those were just old folk tales!"
"Stories start somewhere"
You’d have to put ethanol in it and burn a chip tune with a richer fuel map for the ethanol since I doubt gasoline would be around in 2075, but that would be cool :)
I’m old-school, I love the sound of the B series VTEC. The K series is excellent too and I’ve never owned a car with a K series, but I’ve driven in a couple many times. I still prefer the B series. I love the originality of the design. That was during the time when Soichiro Honda was still alive, even though he was retired before he passed Aug 5, 1991. He still oversaw the creation of a legendary quality engine, that was housed by The NSX, the Prelude, the Integra Type R, the Legend, & Civic Type R.
i belive nsx have V6 engine from C series not B series
also C30A that was in NSX was pretty much a frank from other C series engine then C32B came with its biggest modification being special cylinder sleeves so they cound have really thin cylinder walls to fit bigger pistons it was essentially a bored out C30A and it worked out great in my opinion
also
as u mentioned B series do you know about B21? that was quite interesting variant and probably most of us will never see this engine in person heh thats a shame because it looks nothing like B series
@@OGNISTYSZKQAJDIII think he meant buy that he prefers the first generation of vtec over gen 2 IVTEC I mean nothing beats the sound of mechanical VTEC engagement🤷🏽♂️
@@xx_ironman77_xx1 the fuck you mean by mechanical vtec engagement
its only mechanical
i-vtec is vtec with variable valve timing
it is a mechanical system!!!!!!!! wtf
Yes i agree , i owned a dc2r, and drove my friends 2012? Civic Si sedan many times,
When dohc vtec hits ? Wow
Seems like the ivtec averaged the output.
B engines are legendary, but K series just improved on that formula, big-time. You can't really argue that K series engines aren't superior. Honda surely spent many millions of dollars to research the improvements going into the K series from the B series.
But hey, the timing chain alone had sold me! I'm absolutely going to pick up a K24A2 swap for the EG.
100% agree. Definitely an upgrade. Sucks we can't swap so easily here on the East. Enjoy your k swaps 😂
@MITONFILMS It's gonna take some saving up for sure 😂
For now I am stuck with the B20. I am still enjoying it!
K serie is not a evolved B serie. K serie evolved from H serie wich are the better race engines than the more cheapo B serie.
@@Triggernlfrl I say that because it's literally the same block design as B series, just with a girdle/midpiece. What similarities does it share with the H series?
You won’t regret it am currently running a k20a2 head k24a2 block type s oil pump fbo tuned on hondata.
B series all day
K series all day now. You can fully build a b series all motor with aggressive cams just to hit what a stock K makes with bolt ons lol. Parts are more available for K series now to
@@ssjdavid that’s fine but nothing slaps like a b-series vtec
B series all day building my b18 turbo AWD hatch !
Yeah if you’re still stuck in the 90’s.
@@Dcdc956 no I’m stuck with with feeling and the sound the engine gives dipshit.
Nothing beats the sound of a b series at the top end
I've got both currently 97 civic hatch w/ stock k24a2/5speed trans on boost w/built engine being put together on the side, and 98' civic hatch DD a ls swap turbo w/ ready to go semi built LsV and lsd/carbon synchro gsr trans, I love boost and understand the longevity is possibly a concern depending on circumstances and maintenance but I love both platforms ❤
if you have to choose between either which one would you go with? my next build is going to be between a b or a k since i’ve only experienced a k20 in my fg2
@@phantasy2075 K all the way
I have a b18c5, and lsvtec and honestly bang for your buck lsvtec is probably the best for price to put and for future plans for boost.. I spent like 100 on a b18b block and 350 for gsr head and seems to me like the best way to make a cheap slow car super fun.. and I’m going to turbo it soon.. I also have an H series h23a vtec I’m going to use soon too.. I think H series is slept on but sooner or later I’ll start with my first k series but I need to put my research in..
Yeah to learn about a new platform is always difficult, but you'll be glad you did since parts can be difficult to find depending on where you live for b series.
i wish gsr heads were that cheap in my area, lowest ive seen was 700 and asking price is usually around 900-1000 now.
*_I got to go with the original Type R motor from the 97 EK. 🔥 B series I also saw a recent video where someone managed to pull 2000whp from a B series motor._*
Zero Issues with Parts for my B series
Everyone always chooses the k series, but in the end, nothing compares to the simplicity of a b series. You want to know which one is really better, look at the top 10 fastest fwd cars in the world right now. They’re all b series, besides one car that is a BILLET K series, none of those cars on that list are billet b series, just stock castings. The proof is there, no one wants to acknowledge it.
B series !! All the Way
The question was which one is more cost-effective. Is the b-series swap more cost effective now than a k-series?
building B18 type R now. no issue on parts availability
Always on point! Luckily for me, I started hoarding B series parts a few years ago. Part of me wants to save them so I can build a period correct build, but damn the prices they fetch will let me do a K-Swap pretty easily lol
Or you could let me hold them for you for safe keeping 🤙🏽
You have a distributor for a B16B for sale?
The B series is better suited to “canyon carving” where staying in the rev range is more desirable, K series is if you’re looking into forced induction or straight line acceleration
The k series is the superior naturally aspirated engine and it has a 6 speed option. What makes the B series a better canyon carving engine? 🤔
Unless you have a unmolested R I see no reason not to go K. Just the ease of getting reliable and affordable parts alone is worth it.
Very true. Times have changed
What if you already got a full forged rod piston gsr swap and top mount turbo kit and hondata would you swap to go all k series turbo? if you was a drag racer I worry about the risk of hurting the b series due to expensive repair cost, repairs on k would be cheaper if you damaged a head /transmission/ block Id think..
I'd think so too since there are an abundance of replacement parts for the k series .
That depends. CRX’s are becoming quite rare and expensive as well. It might be better to drop in a B and set the SOHC aside rather than hacking up the car to do a K-swap.
I’ve got a B16B on Hondata S300 with the standard B18CR map…. Old school…
K swap unless we’re talking specifically about the b18c5
What’s the quickest b series?
they both give me chills, B series because i used to have a 94 civic B Swap.
I own a B18C5, K20Z3, and soon a K24A2. I choose K Series all day. It's the better engine.
However, for any 80's-early 00's Hondas, I choose the B Series.
Just wanted to say I love your videos man! I have a 1997 Integra and your videos are really great!
Appreciate it Kobe T! '97 integra nice! I hope you never sell it
I think I commented on an older video about this a few days ago and my answer was and will remain the K series I will say if you have a factory B series car like a type R or an em1 I can understand keeping the B series in it but if you have a blown engine or just a shit B series then swap it to a K there’s absolutely no reason not to K swap especially when you can go pull a K from the original car it came in and know exactly how many miles compared to a B swap for the same price that’s been through 20 different cars and no knowledge on the engines history. I couldn’t advise someone to B swap when the K series is an all around better platform
I just got a 94 civic with a built GSR in it. Its stupid healthy. Im about to stock pile 2 spares i fucking love this thing.
K-series has the advantage of being a clockwise spinning engine. This makes it usable in non-Honda platforms such as Miatas, 240SX’s, old VW’s, and many, many more. Trying to swap a B-series (or H-series) engine into one of these platforms would result in either a single forward gear and multiple reverse gears, or would require costly modifications (such as custom differential cases allowing the diff to be flipped) to rectify this problem. This is why you never saw B or H series engines in anything but Hondas back in the day (despite any advantages these engines had over other manufacturer’s four cylinder engines).
On the other hand, B-series just fits better into older Hondas. Try dropping a K-series into a CRX and see how well it fits. B-series is a much more natural fit, and doesn’t require such things as cutting and welding mounts or holes in the hood. Electronics are also much simpler. If you want a swap that is an easier and better fit in your old Honda, B-series is the way to go.
Mann it's too hard to decide. I love the d, b h and k series each in their own way
The B series is getting more expensive due to mutliple factors:
1) stocks are decreasing
2) inflation we are all experiencing and
3) Strength of its economy being near 25% smaller that a K20 and near 50% smaller than a K24
4) When it comes to Hp per Litre, only theType R K20 has a better HP/Litre ratio and that is only by a small margin when compared to comparable Type R B16B or Type R B18C
5) With dwindling stocks enthusiast customers are the only ones more prepared to pay higher prices to keep their cars genuine or period correct keeping/boosting prices high.
This period is separating the casual owners (novelty owners, image, speed motivated owner) and the genuine enthusiasts.
I've had many B series since 2006. One was a LS VTEC that was built. I bought a Rsx type s and did basic bolt ons with a cat delete and had it tuned with Kpro. It will out preform any built, tuned B series I've ever had. I love B series still but definitely prefer K series. They respond much better to small mods and a tune.
Which one is easier to upgrade and work on??
B series for 10k rpms and sexy sounding vtec
K series for cheap power
I love my 91 integra for how bulletproof and simple it is to work on
K is nice but i kick it oldskool B series for me 👍🏾
Heck ya man thanks for making this video. I've been following you for a long time and I'm starting to ask myself this question now that I'm planning on upgrading my GS-R
B series. You mentioned prices not coming down but really that's for the Type R engines. The common engines are still very cheap and plentiful. I don't know about where you live but here in Puerto Rico those cars sold like hot cakes. The K series is much more expensive here because it's generally considered the "better engine" even though the B series can get you what you want and thensome. The allure that having a K swapped car means you're cool and gives you street cred has lead many to believe the B series isn't as good. But I assure you that for the age of the engine in question, it is just as good. Most people want somewhere around 500HP and would swap a K in just because it can take it with stock internals, but if you built your B you wouldn't need to buy a new engine/transmission combo with all the supporting accessories and items to do the swap. Could've just built your B. And even if your Civic doesn't have a B and it has a D series in it, the aftermarket support is still there for it and the internet has proved you can build a D series to a reliable 500HP and some more. I'd argue for street use just stick to your D series, it gives you more street cred in my eyes than doing another K swap.
@Myton the K-series is faster for sure, but as a fellow JDM DC2-R owner I'll caution against that swap because it will de-value your b-series R
this what I was thinking, I would put the K in any other car but 99% chance I won’t switch out my 98 itr original B.
In today's time, yeah I wouldn't either , it should be illegal 😂
U RICH IF I OWN A TYPE R WHAST DO U DO FOR WORK
This is good , we have the option to put a k or a b series in a 74 civic cvcc. Looking for options.
It's important to mention that the VAST vast majority of K-series engines feature economy car cylinder heads and economy i-VTEC, which are fundamentally different from their performance counterparts. Not all K engines are made equal. All variants of the B16A are fully ready for performance tuning, but tuning an economy K series is more difficult and expensive. Very few K engines made are actually worth tinkering with, especially here in the US.
B 16 with ef civic here.
B series for life last I checked worlds fastest Honda are b series and k came after h series which is even more disappointing
2024 and I got a b18c1 turbo 600hp swap on my 2000 civic Si 45k original miles. B18 has the best looking and sound
It's ok. You don't have to be scared of change. Lol. It's only been 20 years.
B all day long. That's what I grew up on
i daily a 97 accord and my GF likes the way the 2015-2016 crvs look so maybe thinking about swapping a k24a into my own when the time comes.
B series i just swap my car last summer for a B18c1 Never being happier k series still a bit pricey in my opinion
K series if your smart, B series if your cool
Granted the B series is a lot easier to swap but in 2023 the prices are getting ridiculous and not to mention that parts are only going to get harder to come by. And from my understanding of the K series engines are just B series engines but upgraded. And K series are getting a lot easier to swap while keeping ac and power steering thanks to K tuned and various other companies making B/K series swaps so much easier and affordable while retaining ac and power steering. The main reason why I haven't went K series is because I want to keep my ac because our summers here in the southeastern US is almost insufferable lol. And I don't really want to swap my EJ subframe for a EG subframe just to keep my ac and power steering. But at the same time K series is going to be the only affordable way to go with an abundance of parts and the amount of K series engines that were produced outnumber the B series. I guess it goes back to what you prefer and if money isn't a problem then I say go B series or even J series.
B is not a bad choice, but considering the accessibility the is more accessible and also K-tuned parts are available. K tuned for me!
In 2024 still rocking my b20 😉
i own a 95 delsol, b16a3, i love it, redline 9200rpm turbo charged..
B series. K swaps sound like screaming evil spirits
Theres a major flaw with the kseries transmission. The synchros are brittle, And its very easy to money shift. Thats why i will stay bseries.
B Series All Day and Everyday. Bought a Dart B20 block and built it to the teeth. Ive had the same B16 head for almost 25 years. Every 1 1/2 years do a fresh rebuild and off again. Im hard on engines but im also one of those people who can do a rebuild in a weekend, barring of course any major machine work. Theyre bullet proof. I just like to rebuild my own engines. K Series is nice, but damn, they are expensive. Building a B Series is almost 50% easier.
B20Bphk vtec on a Ek99 just build 2years Ago with 200hp parts still cheaper compared to K series example like engine mounts ,drive shaft , extractor
Parts for b series are hard rn and only getting worse a fully built. All motor B series may push 200 to 20 when the K2 four stock comes out the gate with 240.
B20 block b18 head for VTEC
Actually started in 1987 1st b20a dohc gold top 185hp 148lb found in 2nd prelude si jdm with 4-ws
K24A is my go to
I settled for a H23A Vtec
B serious❤
Chevy LS/LT V8... my time with Honda's where in my Teen year's.
I just swapped a b18c1 into my 2000 ex coupe mostly for period correctness I’ve even got an 90s apexi vtec controller
K all the way
B is in my blood
When i see parts like manifolds ect i can always pick them a b 😂 i have a sickness
Both performance and cost, K series.. you can't deny it's almost all around a better engine, literally compare the torque curve of an over squared b18 and over squared k20.. both the 20 and 24 stomp the older generations as much as the b and even d series builds are cool.
To extend this more into the economic field, the k24a4 is nasty... and dirt cheap easy 400 whp (especially with the 2.4's, the torque curve is amazing compared to any of the old gen motors.. even the F & H series)
@@iroekyjHD k24A2 is the one
B series
B Series. It's about the experience at this point. Your grandmother's tesla will rip your face off. So now it's about how much you enjoy it. B series is a lot of fun. Sad to see it go. The 6 speed on the K just doesn't do it for me.
Well I think do you want power or you want to show that you have a b series and keeping it old school I’ve own both but I notice power wise and money k series
k series have some downsights
for someone that doesnt know much 160hp k20 may seem like a good swap to make some power but imagine how sad these guys are when they want to increase power and found out that A3 have integrated collector into the head and making power from these is not possible without finding different head and gettting proper head for these cost same as whole A3 engine 🤣
The a3 is an eco k series engine. You can't get a lot out of them. The k24a2 can go upwards to 500 hp with stock internals and they only go for 1100
@@Givelasagna yeah exactly what im talking about
The correct answer of course is D16a1 dohc zc.
I would choose the K-series cause new is always new.
K all day
I like the k series better.I have that in my accurate.Tsx comes equipped with Two hundred and five horsepower
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The B17 got treated like the stepchild it is 😂. Unmentionable
There's a B17?
@@kanestalin7246 indeed. Only in the 93 Integra GSR as far as I know
@@poopool_Q could you tell me the specs?
@@kanestalin7246 160hp & 117tq. It used a ys1 cable transmission but I guess it was slightly different with a shorter final drive and different input shaft. I've only seen one in person like 20 years ago in a parking lot meet
I chose a b-series in 2022 B20 jdm now getting a vtec head
Like for F serie
B series for N/A sound and k series to take people to gapplebees
Why do the newer engines sound soo bad?
B series sounds better than any Honda motor, k's are overrated.
K series is a better engine, being updated by Honda and improving on the B series. But for my DB8 im staying B series. I like being period correct and i think nothing sounds as good as an all motor B series screaming to its redline. Currently running a 13.5 comp B20v on e85 nitrous
K-Series is just better..
B is cheaper Parts might be hard to find the quotient you but I find them all the time in the junkyard when it comes to the k I cannot find it in the junkyard they want a lot of money for it and it's harder to build and it takes real money to build the k. B all day long the only thing I have against the B is it's only a 5-speed it should be a 6-speed
If you wanna make 230+ with a stock engine GO K....
From a cost effective standpoint… you’re crazy if you choose B series
Some people like period correct builds 😂
K is the Dark Side 😈 Love it!!!!!!
K Series no doubt.
In my option I stay on D series and B cause still a lot parts out there and price is minumon, k is good but not like the sound rare
i believe more guys are doing b series turbo setups for cost, the b18c has a pretty bullet proof engine but both the b series and k series give up once u hit around 1600whp, too much boost after that but the k series will hold every record soon.
I dont know that 6.9 record from speedfactory B series will also get faster.. Ks have not hit 6s yet.
Honda B series vs Honda J series engine pls
The problem I'm dealing with I was ready to boost & build my gsr dc2 has a full jdm itr swap but now I'm scared to blow it up since they want like 10k🤯 in the depot now crazy now I'm leaving it bone stock & im going to buy a dc shell ls want a rs but so hard to find & ima just k swap that shell & beat the piss out of it if it blows I'll pick another k24 from a tsx in a junkyard for a few hundred
Yeah 😂 it's a much safer route to just go k series nowadays especially if you want to experiment and modify
i chose B B B B B
The d series is better than the b series. You can compare the b20 to the k20a2. That's a tall order. Comparing any b series to a k24 Frankenstein is an absurdity. Honda needs to make a 3.0-4.5 liters 4 cylinder next. It would get its rpm at 1000 -1600 and once again make V8 irrelevant. V6 has a stiffer crankshaft than both and does have more rotating mass to add to the valve area at high rpm while having only slightly smaller bore than the 4 cylinder because they atr spread out in a 90 degree configuration.
V8 are impractical. A 5.7 liter 4 cylinder would have twice the bore and stroke than a V8 getting its rpm at 800 and would be 500-600 torque with 250 to -400 horsepower. That's why Honda doesn't build them.
Lets consider you have a 3.4 liter quad 4 Oldsmobile 4 cylinder and a 5.7 liter dohc lq1 V6. If the four cylinder is going to get its torque at 1000 rpm the 5.7 dohc V6 will get its torque at 1800 rpm and rev to 5700. The power band would never drop off you would sacrifice having not having luscious 1000 rpm maximum torque. Going from 0-40 would be spontaneous with in the 3.4 4 cylinder while the 5.7 V6 would rev for quicker acceleration from 40-60 MPH . The 5.7 V8 would not beat the 3.4 quad 4 cylinders or the 5.7 lq1 6 cylinders. The 5.7 quad ohc 4 cylinder would get its rpm at 800 and idle down the road. Using no gas. It would be instant acceleration 0-40 faster than a tesla
Thanks a lot!
people who are watching this in 2024
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B & K
J series all day
What your views on r18 1.8 l engine?
I don't have much information on the r18 engine however when I drove a car with one, it was pretty slow 😂
Of cause K series - it's a no brainer decision
K series all the way
D series
You should make a poll
I'm on it 🤣
B18c going for 10k plus now