This was beautiful in its simplicity. It's like if Toki Pona was invented to be a part of a cursed conlang contest. I think my favorite word would be "amolalemamolamomilolamomimelilomimemalu" which I really hope is an adjective.
@@KarolOfGutovo I believe that it would cause the line to become 2 long instead of the normal length, so it would still be valid. I drew it out before I made the word, so I'm fairly sure all of my permutations are correct. Thank you for mentioning it, though!
So the really bad feature of this language is that the horizontal/vertical flips and 90/180/270 degree flips do obey additional rules, like that if a move happens twice and it isn't back to where it started, it has to be flipped 180 degrees either by two +90 or -90 degree turns. So you don't know whether something is a basalt within a limestone or if the verb is just future tense, etc. There's a lot of clashing between the grammatical concepts, basically, and that is particularly cursed when trying to interpret this language from an aural perspective.
Unironically a big fan of the writing system, I am a bit tempted to implement that somewhere. The rotation of verbs makes perfect sense, as well, but it kinda lost me at rotating other words dependent on it, even though it does make perfect sense logically.
I'm curious how many possible words you could form with this writing system. At any given word you can only add 1 of 4 (CV) syllables to the end. Also due to the limitations of fitting in a 4x4 grid, that gives you 40 possible lines, if you could fill every line. Due to the no overlapping or touching rule, you can only ever use 24 lines, plus a tail. That gives an upper bound of 4^25 possible max length words and an upper bound of [sum(4^i) for i = 1 to 25] = 1.5 quadrillion words. Of course many of those words will be invalid, but at least it's an upper bound.
The ability to lengthen a line really helps forming valid words. The shortest word I can think of that is invalid is "amolalemanorarena" it requires 5 ups and no downs.
There doesn''t seem to be any shortage of possible words, but some of those are going to be rather long and unwieldy. It seems likely that many of the concepts we have single words for in English would be expressed using combinations of words. Or maybe compound words, but that could be difficult, since you can't just stick any two words together and make another word!
Bizarre that it would use the gerund in the same way as English, instead of using the infinitive/root form for many of those purposes like most other languages do. "X likes doing Y" is a fairly metaphorical/idiomatic use of gerund since by default gerund implies the concept of simultaneity
Maybe gerund isn't exactly the right term, I'm not steeped in linguistic theory enough to say. You can call it an infinitive if you think that's a better fit for the concept. Note that Aleri verbs don't really have a root form, the uninflected form is the present tense. I'm not sure what you mean by implying simultaneity. As far as I can see, "X likes doing Y" and "X likes to do Y" mean exactly the same thing in English, and the "doing Y" part doesn't imply any particular time.
Isn't that completely the other way around? Using a semantic verb as a syntactic noun is an extremely transparent way to express "X likes the-act-of-doing-Y". English -ing form only includes aspectual information because of a fossilised metaphor "X is in the-act-of-doing-Y".
first a conlang that requires linear algebra and now one that requires group theory 😭
Gurl where's the group theory
This was beautiful in its simplicity. It's like if Toki Pona was invented to be a part of a cursed conlang contest. I think my favorite word would be "amolalemamolamomilolamomimelilomimemalu" which I really hope is an adjective.
You can't have momime, the 3 consecutive turns in same direction would pinch the word into touching itself
@@KarolOfGutovo I believe that it would cause the line to become 2 long instead of the normal length, so it would still be valid. I drew it out before I made the word, so I'm fairly sure all of my permutations are correct. Thank you for mentioning it, though!
@@pomumterrestre8725 Ah, right. My bad. Alerilo even has that, and it's one of the example words shown in the video
whoa. It's making me feel skeptical whether the word fits in a 4x4 grid
A language where pronouncing it requires you to be fluently literate and also able to perform geometric transformations in your head.
Okay, this is even more unique than anything else I've seen submitted
Wow gotta love doing transformations in your head just for gender agreement
So the really bad feature of this language is that the horizontal/vertical flips and 90/180/270 degree flips do obey additional rules, like that if a move happens twice and it isn't back to where it started, it has to be flipped 180 degrees either by two +90 or -90 degree turns. So you don't know whether something is a basalt within a limestone or if the verb is just future tense, etc. There's a lot of clashing between the grammatical concepts, basically, and that is particularly cursed when trying to interpret this language from an aural perspective.
THE SUBJECT AGREES WITH TGHE VERBBB????? tHis is making me go insane. I love it. A work of art.
honestly, this is just a good conlang in its own right, though it is indeed fairly cursed
This is really cool, probably the most creative entry yet.
Unironically a big fan of the writing system, I am a bit tempted to implement that somewhere. The rotation of verbs makes perfect sense, as well, but it kinda lost me at rotating other words dependent on it, even though it does make perfect sense logically.
Just realized.
Island of the Watcher.
The Witness???
I was wondering how long it would be before someone spotted that!
This is a legit pretty and cursed conlang! Would be fun to play around with!
Wait. The gender system is different types of rocks, and it works by rotating. Oh. Oh I see what you did.
i don’t get it, can you please explain?
looking back, I also don't get it. wtf was i on when i wrote this@@zlodevil426
i like how the words for "big" and "small" swap meanings for no reason lol
I'm curious how many possible words you could form with this writing system. At any given word you can only add 1 of 4 (CV) syllables to the end. Also due to the limitations of fitting in a 4x4 grid, that gives you 40 possible lines, if you could fill every line. Due to the no overlapping or touching rule, you can only ever use 24 lines, plus a tail. That gives an upper bound of 4^25 possible max length words and an upper bound of [sum(4^i) for i = 1 to 25] = 1.5 quadrillion words. Of course many of those words will be invalid, but at least it's an upper bound.
The ability to lengthen a line really helps forming valid words. The shortest word I can think of that is invalid is "amolalemanorarena" it requires 5 ups and no downs.
There doesn''t seem to be any shortage of possible words, but some of those are going to be rather long and unwieldy. It seems likely that many of the concepts we have single words for in English would be expressed using combinations of words. Or maybe compound words, but that could be difficult, since you can't just stick any two words together and make another word!
now THIS is a beautiful cursed conlang. love it!
Bizarre that it would use the gerund in the same way as English, instead of using the infinitive/root form for many of those purposes like most other languages do. "X likes doing Y" is a fairly metaphorical/idiomatic use of gerund since by default gerund implies the concept of simultaneity
Maybe gerund isn't exactly the right term, I'm not steeped in linguistic theory enough to say. You can call it an infinitive if you think that's a better fit for the concept. Note that Aleri verbs don't really have a root form, the uninflected form is the present tense.
I'm not sure what you mean by implying simultaneity. As far as I can see, "X likes doing Y" and "X likes to do Y" mean exactly the same thing in English, and the "doing Y" part doesn't imply any particular time.
Isn't that completely the other way around? Using a semantic verb as a syntactic noun is an extremely transparent way to express "X likes the-act-of-doing-Y". English -ing form only includes aspectual information because of a fossilised metaphor "X is in the-act-of-doing-Y".
@@gcewing that's my point. It is exceptional for "doing" to not convey temporal information. Doing normally implies "while".
Yep, it's cursed. When I got to the Fibonacci numerals I nodded my head and smiled. Inspired.
I wanna learn it to read multiple sense poetry
tthe rotation has me shellshocked. thiis iis beautiful
dont forget the tag
4:58 has the rocks!! hooray!!
Burst out laughing at 5:44
9:21 got me cackling
Same
Daniel give me coffee
I love it 👏👏👏
Smart video.
So this was narrated by Daniel
Can he give me coffee?
It looks like ChatGPT created a cursed conlang.
Me seeing "amo" and "ale": oh, so it's impossible to form "lo"?
Me a bit later: ... OH GOD IT'S PERSPECTIVE-BASED????
Dude!
10/10
This doesn't sound too cured 🤔🤔🤔