Smart Design - Japanese Quality - SOTO Thermostack Cook Set Combo
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- Luke is back with an Agenda Free Review of the SOTO Thermostack Cook Set Combo! This is a unique, smartly designed system of cups and pots which are insulated!
Japanese Quality all the way!
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SOTO Thermostack Cook Set Combo
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Price : Retail $70
Components :
750ml Pot with lid
400ml Titanium Cup with lid
350ml Stainless Steel Cup that can be used standalone or to make the 400ml cup a double walled cup - Titanium Cup Lid will also work with the stainless cup
Pot Cozy that also works as a storage bag of sorts for the kit
Pot/Cup Lifter
Full Kit Storage Size and Weight :
Diameter: 5” tall x 4” wide :
Total weight: 10.9oz
750 ml/26 oz cup:
Weight: 3 oz
Material: Aluminum
400 ml/14 oz cup:
Weight: 1.8oz
Material: Titanium
350 ml/12 oz cup:
Weight: 3.1oz
Material: Stainless steel
Lifter:
Dimensions: width 3.4” long, less than an inch wide
Weight: 0.6oz
Materials: Aluminum, Stainless steel
Large Lid :
Weight: .6oz
Materials: Resin, O-ring-Silicon
Small Lid for both the 350 and 400 ml (12 and 14 oz) cups:
Weight: .5oz
Materials: Body-Resin, O-ring-Silicon
Cozy:
Weight: 1.5oz
Materials: Tarpaulin, Aluminum evaporated sheet
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Review Pros :
Price is excellent consider the fact if you were to purchase a 750ml pot and two cups of a similar size, you would pay more than what you will for this kit and you wouldn’t get the cozy, the lifter, nor the double walled functionality
Very lightest
Small form factor
Excellent quality
Pots and Cups are of a good size for most people
Incredibly versatile kit - take with you what you need depending on the trip - you can take the pot for cooking, one cup for coffee or the rest of the kit if you have others with you.
Very smart design
Cozy works as it shouldn’t
Double walled cup does keep contents warm for a long period of time
Pot/cup lifter is excellent
Mesh part of the cozy is big enough to hold a fuel can (read oz on can)
Lids feature drinking ports and pour ports as well
Plenty of room inside of the system for a stove.
Review Cons :
The lifter isn’t doesn’t have a spring in it which makes it a bit more fiddly to pick up and use
Summary :
SOTO has been impressing me for a while now with their unique designs and high quality and this kit impresses. You can head out on your adventure with the full kit or scale it down when you needs are less.
The price is excellent and ultimately, there isn’t much to complain about; I can easily recommend it.
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Fun fact... "Soto" In Japanese Translates to "Outside" in English. Simple and straight to the point. Gotta love it!
The new version of Toaks titanium 95mm lid perfectly fits the 750ml pot if someone need a metal lid.
I have been using this cook set for my solo backpacking trips and I love it. But one thing, you need to be very careful using the lifter to lift the 750 ml pot. The lifter is a bit small to lift the large pot, and you need to use some extra force to grab it very tight, or the pot may fall. It happens to me a few times - with my cooked food in it... so be very careful.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Replies like yours is the reason I find comments just as interesting/informative as the video itself.
That’s also what I found. May be worth replacing the wee lifter with, say, the one that comes with Trangia cook sets.
He mentioned the handle wasn't great, and after this comment makes you really wonder about spending 70 buck's on this kit when I've bought several of the stanley cook pot with two coffee cups inside for 10 Buck's and the handle is built on the cup.
Add a KNIPEX Cobra XS to the kit
@@rowdybroomstick1216 Yeah as for budget it doesnt get any better than that kit.
There's the classic bushcrafter 1L bottle +nestling 750 ml pot/cup.
This is more than both, it's the ultimate 1P backpacking cookset. For a 290g kit, considering all that's included, the fact that it nestles perfectly with a stove and gas canister, plus Japanese quality - it is... Premium, but unrivaled
I also have this set and I THINK the 750ml pot is actually made of aluminium. Which would explain why the larger and smaller pots have volume markings, whereas they left them out on the [harder and more difficult to work] titanium middle pot.
from my experiences, the Japanese always perfect their products. i'll take a japanese product before most others.
Very true, perfection is a true Japanese quality, you have to love that and respect it.
Allies - ++
I work for a Japanese company. They are perfectionists.
Or Swiss maybe ☺️ They tend to make things overly complicated though😉
Japanese, German, Canadian, Swedish, and American, anything made in these countries is always top shelf
I bought my set after noticing it in your videos a couple of months back. By the way, I added Hot Lips silicone lip protectors to the kit. This way, I can drink soup/coffee without the lid on -- I like to see into the cup, and not have the lid hide a wave of hot angry magma. I like my lips just as they are, with no burns, thankyouverymuch. :)
Whenever I see other channels reviews I always check if you have reviewed it yet. You start to see a pattern with reviewers and products. Luke’s reviews definitely are agenda free.
I heard him say that but didn't even realize what he meant cuz I'm not native. Then i watched a bunch of other's stuff and eventually realized most are sponsored or biased. Luke is the GOAT
That's the system I use. The coffee cup I've been using every day in the house for my coffee or my tea for several years now no issues whatsoever.
I love the fact that I don't have to build a cozy the perfect sized cozy comes with it.... who does that I mean it's awesome.
My Soto stove fits into what I call the coffee cup. It is simply another Soto magic bit of wonderfulness 😀😃👍🏽👍🏽
I own this kit. The outer pot is awesome and the cozy is definitely one of the better ones if you don't want to go the DIY route. Also, i love that the net extends to store the fuel canister on top of the pot.
But the inner thermal mug is kind of gimmicky. 350ml is a little to small for a big cup of tea/coffee, and with 154g it is kinda heavy for the small volume.
I suggest buying only the outer pot with the cozy (called the Soto ThermoLite) and add a GSI Infinity Backpacker Mug. The Mug is lighter while having a bigger Volume. It´s also much cheaper and it too nests inside the outer pot.
The only downside is that you can´t cook in your GSI Mug. That the nice thing about the Soto. If your outer "big" pot is dirty or greasy from your food, you can use the outer small pot of the thermal mug to cook clean tea/Coffee water.
To make the Soto set better, I added two free neoprene cozies. A thin one to the stainless steel cup and a heavier one to the titanium cup. The thin one insulates the stainless and still nests into the titanium. The two cozies combined makes the nested cups super insulated and holds heats like crazy.
Greetings Luke. after watching your review last week I ordered the Soto Amicus Stove with the new New River Pot Combo + Amicus stove w Igniter. It all came today. The New River Pot holds1000 ML /33.8 oz. weighs 118 g./4.16 oz. is made of Aluminum and comes with a clear lid w silicon top and mesh bag. The GOOD THING is that the Soto Thermostack Cook Set Combo WILL NEST RIGHT INSIDE THE NEW RIVER POT and I have the stove, fuel canister, microfiber towel, sponge for cleaning and a back up Mini Bic all nestled together. It arrived, I unboxed it, washed everything and went Out Back to make lunch! Perfect AS Perfect as can be. now I need to order the Navigator Cook Set! Thanks for a Honest review that I could rely. Respectfully, StrongBear
Love my thermostack and windmaster combo. All nests very neatly and compact. You can also wrap several paper towels or a rag around the outside of the 400 ml pot before nesting it inside the 750. And, on top of having the towels, it'll keep it from rattling.
As always. A great review…That said.
I prefer to use the Stanley Version. It features a fold down locking handle and two plastic cups.
And there’s enough room on the inside for my Tiny-stove. This is enough for me.
And I will carry only one 230g fuel canister. And for a whole lot less money.
Just had a look at the "Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set" and that's what I'm talking about, good price and nice and simple. The Soto set looks great but it would cost me over $100 and the Stanley kit is only about $30 (I'm Canadian so that usually means price gouging) haha
Well to be fair the Stanley sets, while good quality, are stainless steel for most of their gear. Very durable, but heavy
Made up a similar system but with MSR pocket rocket and I can fit everything in the main pot including gas can and two Swedish army collapsible cups plus Optimus wind Sheild that fits perfectly.
Looks like a good option for "leave no trace."
I just discovered the Thermostack and added it to my gear. It's form factor is excellent and even lets me take it in a haversack. I did add a Toaks lid for the large pot and of course my Pocket Rocket Deluxe. Super pleased with this set-up! 👍
First glance it seemed like too many pots. But the smaller one inside the medium one makes a insulated pot. Some nice versatility there. And the cozy is a nice touch.
If you're going to spend $70 on a few nesting containers in a bag, you might as well go all-titanium. Or go Stanley and spend the savings on other gear.
It basically is minus the stainless steel cup
Thank you, Luke! Your review resolved an issue I have with stove and pot/s issue. The light weight and design are awesome. Obviously, Soto's management and/or R&D department are backpackers and listen to their customers. Seventy bucks is well worth it. That pot grabber can be replaced by a spring loaded one as they are pretty much a universal size. The only other item I would add would be the "hot lips" gadget for protection from lip burn.
I have a different SOTO cookset/stove combo and I love it! SOTO makes great stuff and it's produced in Japan which beats Chinese made crap any day.
Yes Japanese are amazing with detail and very thorough. I work for a Japanese company. It’s very hard to keep up with the demands. Work work work! Lol.
I don't have this cookset, however, I do have & use the Soto Windmaster Stove, I pulled the buy trigger for the Soto Windmaster in preference to the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe because the Soto is more fuel efficient than the PR.
Luke says it all and I agree.
For the common food rehydrating backpacker, this is THE set to get. Only think missing is a coffee drip filter, but you could use a reusable tea bag with a coarse coffee grind. Full cookset, if paired with some chopsticks or a long spork. Can't get better for backpacking, especially if you're going with Gas stoves.
Stanley adventure for budget, MSR windbreaker for mid budget and this set as THE holy grail of gas-stove-focused sets.
Nifty idea adding the mesh at top like that to help pack the gas canister. Packability on that one isn't too bad given everything in it. Soto is such a solid company that is usually trying to innovate. They are my go-to canister stove company.
SOTO gets a thumbs up.
Hopefully they continue producing quality products.
Thanks for the review.
I have no complaints. It seems like a great cook kit for anyone to have and take with them.
Thanks for the review, it's always good to see your take on things. I have the Thermostack set, and I think it's a good set, but like most things nothing is perfect. Having used the thermostack for a while I got fed up of the little pot grabber. As someone who has lot's of different pots and pans I tried out a different combo with the thermostack. It will sound extravagent but I've swapped out the outer pot for a Toaks 750ml Titanium and the Cup for a 400ml Alpkit Titanium mug, and kept the inner steel to create the twin wall mug, plus sip lids. It all fits together perfectly inside the Soto Cosy. This has the advantage of handles on both pots, plus the Toaks has a bail arm which gives you more options around camp. I would show this in action but I no longer post videos of my activities, I prefer to leave it to someone as good as yourself, and I just get on enjoying the outdoors. Please try out this combo if you get chance, it's a winner. And please keep doing what you do, without people like you we'd all be ripped off. All the best Mally
I'm building up my gear to eventually head out solo for the first time ever. This looks like an all around cook system winner in an ultralight package. Thanks for the review. Now I need a sleeping pad and quilt 💲
That looks like a pretty decent kit.
I'd prefer handles on the pots instead of the "pliers" looking thing.... otherwise, very interesting.
that "lifter" looks like an annoying add-on. I will still be sticking with my Stanley cook set for that reason.
takes away some space and adds another moving part. it's a tradeoff
Thanks Luke, this might be exactly, what I am looking for... versatility and low weight w/ features of both titanium and steel. Also, might I add, thank you for showing metric measurements! Not that imperials are complicated or anything... :)
Luke👍👍 Great review, thanks. I have many SOTO products but not this kit, no failures of any kind so far. The only "iffy" item is their butane lighter w/pull out head. Works OK up to about 5800' elevation if kept warm, above that not so much. Can't be a con though account they tell you it may not work above 5000' or if it's cold. So yeah, good stuff. Enjoy!
10oz for a multiple options cook set and all can become insulated. Very nice
Looks like a great Christmas present to me. Thanks for another agenda-free review.
Great timing for me. Was looking at a Snow Peak Kit. I like this has two cups instead of just one, and a little less than the snow peak. Not a big fan of lifters though
Awesome video like always ... If you're counting every ounce I guess that's a good investment but since I've had a couple of bouts with Lyme disease I do most of my 🏕️ camping from a kayak and since I'm in a kayak I don't have to count ounces. So I use my Stanley set up and Stanley frying pan which is great but it's 32 oz waiting till it gets colder to hike in the woods I've been using too much 100% deet and that's not good in the long run.🤪🛶🐿️🦉🍽️✨🇺🇸✨
Luke that is an amazing kit $70 is amazing I paid $50 for my toaks you get so much more for $20 so worth it.
Bought a similar setup, but with Keith Titanium. Very high quality and reasonable prices.
Would love the Soto and the Evernew kits though if they were not so expensive.
I’ve had this set a while now, I dig it. The titanium smaller cup developed a crack at the bottom and Soto replaced it for free in warranty.
I wouldn’t put the lid on tight to boil (I see you didn’t), it’s hard to get off and you’ll burn your hands trying to and I permanently deformed the lip of the lid while pulling it off when super hot.
Otherwise I like it
I did the same :)
Just discovered your channel, and subscribed. Really good quality videos.
Just to point out one thing (don't know if in these 3 years they changed the material).
As I'm reading on the soto website (plus, I just purchased the kit), the 750ml Pot is made from Aluminum, the biggest cup in Titanium and the smaller cup in Stainless steel
So $70 for it with no stove
Wdf
Dafuk?
You didn't mention that the measurements are stamped so they can be read from the inside. I find that a very useful feature. It also shows that the designers are thinking about how the product is being used.
I couldn't tell from the video if the measurements are only in metric? or also in US Customary units, as well?
Metric only
Great set, but why is the last cup SS
I really like Soto. I use the windmaster stove and really like it. It's brilliant. I would like the thermostack, hard to justify it at the moment as I have other cook kits, but I will buy it someday.
I love this kit, preferably with the Soto Windmaster burner.
Have you checked out the GSI Halulite Minimalist II or the GSI Glacier Stainless Minimalist II cooksets? They're one 500ml pot with a thermal sleeve and lid and the fuel canister fits inside with compact stoves. So less than half the weight and overall packing dimensions considering the fuel has to stack on top of this one. Food for thought! Just have to have coffee before or after breakfast or pour into a silicone cup.
I love my Soto gear and I'd seen this, but not a review I trust. Glad you took a look at it, buddy! Thanks! You and Susie stay well.
The only thing is the can fuel doesn't perform well in cold temperatures, but this kit is well made! Thanks for the review!
I have the little table made by them and love it. The cook set was out of stock but I’m definitely keeping my eye out for it because it would make a great set for my husband.
You know this is neat.. I carry a canteen cup and a silicon cup..
But you know this is not a bad way to go...
Just what I needed.. A new vid to watch as I eat lunch about making lunch..
Hey Luke! Nice cook set! I like the fact you get the different size cups and there's room for your stove and the fuel canister.
Nice, didn’t know that one existed. Thanks as always for the honest review and putting the time in to actually test these products out. It’s very appreciated
One con I have is the Thermostack itself does not come with its stuff sack. Really wanted to use that on its own more, and would be a lot better if it came with that. I contacted Soto to buy one, but they do not sell just the stuff sack.
Got the Thermostack cups, Toaks syphon stove and Evernew cross stand with the lifter and a bic lighter in that set. Nice little setup
That's what is still missing in my backpack, it looks really durable!
For some reason I can’t see the comments, I can only se the names of the people asking questions or commenting. So I can’t see if anyone else has mentioned the following on the pot.
The reason For my comment is because on the Soto website it says that the 750 ml pot is made of aluminum not titanium.
Not sure if you maybe you have a different set? 🤔
Love your videos! Keep them
Coming.
Thank you for your review. I like the pros and the few cons that were presented. Keep up the great work Luke.
Love the gear reviews Luke. I notice that with a lot of titanium cook sets it's mainly boiling water for dehydrated meals as they say titanium is not great distributing heat throughout the pan. Is there a cook set you would recommend that you can cook food on as well as water for dehydrated meals and not weigh a ton. Strength and honour
Cheers, thankyou
I'll have a look at that. Thanks
Bet a beer will fit in that fancy Soto coozie cup
0:47 - small correction: 750ml aluminum pot, NOT titanium 😉 Smaller 400ml is titanium. Smallest 350ml stainless steel 😊👍
I have that SOTO kit and it is everything you describe. Great product. My only gripe and it has nothing to do with the kit, it is the gas can. I can not find the small gas can locally in any store. They are available on Amazon however, at twice the price. Great item! "Freedom Through Self-Reliance"
I really like this set! But i was told the larger 750ml pot it comes with is actually aluminum not titanium? Supposedly it says it on the package according to amazon reviews. They say aluminum is unsafe to boil water or cook food out of? Im not an expert by no means just curious your thoughts? You would expect the cook pot to be titanium...? The cozy and multi piece coffee mug are definitely a win though! Could always subsitute the 750ml pot for and msr or toaks. A bummer if aluminum but not a deal breaker for this set. Stay safe! Hike on!
High Luke, a very light-weight set, and i know that the Soto-stove works very well. Kindly Fiete
Luke, just wanted you to know the immense pleasure your videos give us. We are both seniors and in our earlier years did some camping, visiting various sites in New York and the Pokonose in a Canadian ridge tent that I bought in Andorra. Now having past eighty and with a weak right leg following a stroke I am considering camping in the rear of our SUV with a tailgate extension and suitable accompanying gear. We live in central Israel and being a small country the opportunities for tracking and camping from tree lined mountains in the north, beautiful woods, streams and lakes in the central fertile plain to magnificent rock desert in the south. The problem for me with partial immobility is erecting a tent since I cannot stand unaided. However, one question is in the back of my mind and that is the pneumatic self erecting tents. What is your view on those? Should you guys ever think of visiting Israel let us know and we’ll love to host you. The Israel Trail is over 600 km long starting in the north and ending in the south. We have a rugged 4 wd Skoda Yeti with off road gearing which will go most places. Anyhow, thanks once again for your fabulous videos and commentaries. Strength and honor, Geoffrey & Zipora.
Clean setup . Long-term I wonder if pot or cup distortion or warping over gas stoves
Excellent review, interesting kit. I think if they added an integrated coffee filter it would be complete at least for me. I have seen your review of the Soto folding #2 coffee filter, yet I think there is still a market for a kit containing a lite weight integrated filter. I think they could have incorporated such a filter for only 0.5 oz. I have such an example filter but it wouldn't fit in that kit as currently designed.
Looks like a good piece of Kit. I Hike using a dual system with my Wife. She carries a Stanly Cookset and I carry a Pack Kettle and a small Fry Pan. We both have Kuksa's hanging from the Shoulder Straps of out Packs as well as Bowls.
In the Stanly we carry a small Stove as well as Coffee and Broth. My Wife also carries at least one Butane Canister.(For the Small Stove. It's a Chinese knock off of the "Pocket Rocket". ) I carry the Pack Kettle filled with a Fire Kit as well as Coffee and Tea. (Plus things like Salt and Pepper.) I also carry a Svea 123 and Fuel for it in my Pack.
Neither set up weighs a lot and they both work well.
Agenda free! Not as 90% of reviews in TH-cam. Thanks mate and keep up the good work!
Very nice!!! Looks like a possible replacement for my oversized jet boil minimo. Great review, thanks Luke! 👍
why would you need the silicon spacer on the 350ml cup when it's not in the 450ml? seems like a weird complaint. i wouldn't even have thought of keeping it on there.
Silicone - silicon is completely different.
@@danielkutcher5704 oh sorry i guess my question is entirely invalid because of a typo.
The great thing about this thing is that you got 3 single wall cup or 2 some how insulated cup... great great great design
This is fucking (excuse my profane excitement) phenomenal. Soto. Every time.
A damn snow peak Ti double wall mug is $60. This kit is $10 more.
Good for canister stoves, too narrow for efficient use with alcohol stoves. Nice design, though I prefer flat bottom pots. There is less chance of burning food in the middle. Occasionally I will pop some corn, and the raised bottom of my old MSR Alpine cook set was a problem. Using a big Evernew titanium pot (1300ml) with my alcohol stove I can fry eggs without burning them by putting a tealight candle tin inside my Supercat stove and filling it with alcohol. Alcohol stoves are finicky, though, and their use has a learning curve that's not for the impatient. I use it because it's multi-purpose and doesn't come out of the ground (greener), plus, it's silent.
So that’s how you use a cup. lol
Great design and not a bad price
I just got this for christmas due to your channel! Thanks so much!!! This is a superb set!!
That is a wonderful set, thank you Luke and Sussie
Can you hold the double wall cup bare handed with hot liquid in it? I like it overall. Would be better if it had folding handles.
Wasn’t expecting that. Cheers Luke cheers. (Takes mouthful of coffee)
Too bad most of the Soto stuff ia not distributed in the USA. Very high quality; I have their Windmaster with the 4flex and triflex stands and their retractable butane mini torch.
I would say however that buying pots is pretty low risk. I was interested in a couple of their unique butane and whitgas stoves, however getting parts is difficult.
Awesome and honest review as always! I’m going have to check that set out for sure.
Thank you.
1. If it had a way to hang it over the fire...
2. Does it fit the Nalgene bottle?
3. Thanks for reviev
Soto is one of the best companies out there...yo, american manufacturers, take notice!
Just bought it. You convinced me
Best cook set I own would highly recommend, great video as always 🔥
Thinking about picking one up.
I have a couple of their items and enjoy using them.
Nice quality combo as nice as your presentation is, keep it up Luke
Luke, great review of an interesting product. Appreciate your observations on the gripper and the pot gasket. Is that the Soto Amicus stove you are using in this review? I bought one recently but haven't had it outside it. Looks like a great set. Thank you, Bill
Nice review, I was interested to see the difference between this and the MSR offering. I haven't used either of them but the SOTO looks more comprehensive and better thought out.
Hello Luke as usual a great review, thank you so much for sharing.
Did you try fitting a 1 litre Nalgene bottle inside? I prefer to use a Savotta stove instead of the gas thing, so it would be a cool space saver, if I could fit in the Nalgene bottle. :) Thanks for a great review tho, I'm strongly thinking about buying one.
Room in the pot or mesh bag for utensils as well?! 😂 only add on/item that seems to be missing that no one else has mentioned thus far lol
Hi Luke, thank you for sharing another excellent product and non biased review. Could you tell me what stove you used in 7:29m?
Looks like a good piece of kit. Thank you for the review.
Just bought one. Texas
Hi Mate, love your videos. for those of us that live in the rest of the world, would you be able to add metric measurements like grams and Kg? somehow the US still stuck with these ancient imperial measurements...
Looks like really good equipment.
This all well and good to say at Xprice it is cheap but for those who don't live in the US will have to take in to account the currency difference. In USD$69.95 this converted to AUD is $98.91 but Amazon AU is selling it at $117.69 + $10 delivery But Amazon US is selling it at AU$100 with free shipping. This is why I don't trust people.
Thanks for the review. I just pulled the trigger on Amazon just today. I can't wait to get it. :-)
Looks promising. Have you reviewed any wood burning stoves for hot tents?