Dialogues on Transformation: The Journey of Insightful Healing with Terri Dentry and Tim Adalin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke is joined by Terri Dentry and Tim Adalin to discuss their unique perspectives on the intricate journey from chronic pain to insightful healing. The conversation delves into the psychological and existential dimensions that underpin true transformation, emphasizing the importance of dialogical practices and synoptic integration in achieving profound personal growth and understanding. Through a rich dialogue that navigates the nexus between philosophy, psychology, and therapeutic practice, this conversation offers deep insights into the art of healing, the cultivation of wisdom, and the transformative power of human connectivity. It stands as an essential discussion for those seeking to understand the holistic nature of healing and the potential for personal and collective evolution in the face of adversity.
Guest Bio and Links:
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au.
Tim Adalin, founder of Voicecraft, explores the intricate dynamics between participation and transformation. His philosophical inquiry spans metaphysics, consciousness, and identity, underpinning Voicecraft's mission to enrich dialogue on complex modern challenges. You can learn more about Tim Adalin through his website, www.timadalin.xyz/, follow him on TH-cam, / @voicecraft and on his Substack, timadalin.substack.com/.
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Quotes:
"This is not something about this immediate moment of chronic pain requiring a healing process. This is a worldview issue that is happening to all of us from the very start." - Terri Dentry [00:14:22]
"We're trying to get away from some of the fundamental ways in which agency is being implicitly understood or misunderstood in regular medical practice, and restore a proper appreciation of agency." - John Vervaeke [00:09:57]
"Partly what this conversation is pointing to is that there's going to be a different kind of tension essentially immediately experienced when entering into a different relational context." - Tim Adalin [01:11:20]
Glossary of Terms:
Synoptic Integration: The integration of diverse perspectives and modalities to achieve a comprehensive understanding and healing approach.
Interprofessional Practice: Collaboration between practitioners from different disciplines for holistic patient care.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction, Research Background, and the "Seeing More" Project
00:03:50 - Transformational Journeys and the Power of Shared Pain, Vulnerability, and Relationality
00:11:36 - Agency and Relationality in Medical Practice
00:17:09 - Embodying the Meaning Crisis: Trauma, Narratives, and the Healing Process
00:28:43 - The Pivot Problem: Balancing Finitude and Transcendence in the Healing Journey
00:34:03 - Criticisms of Therapy and the Need for a Shared Worldview
00:44:12 - Dialogos and the Philosophical Silk Road Project
00:54:05 - The Significance of Dialogical Reasoning in Daily Life and Medical Interactions
01:03:34 - Building Structures for Belonging and Support: Challenges and Solutions
01:12:36 - Conclusion: Interprofessional Clinics and the Complexity of Shared Decision-Making
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I'm a wounded vet. I live with chronic pain, tbi, and ptsd. These episodes, and your series, have been, well...transcendental. thank you dearly.
Same…same..,same….very helpful and encouraging information for what I’m going through now. Thank you
I love the observation about bars - it reminds me of how a lot of people smoke because it's their way to meditate. Even our vices can be a groping towards transcendence, perhaps.
Thank you for teaching us how to have impossible conversations. Whether you realized it or not.. you Realized it
Hey John, it was really great to reconnect here and I look forward to talking again soon. In reflection it seems like we found a really interesting moment of aporia towards the end, held in great spirit. That was quite beautiful. Thank you for meeting me in that.
Thank you John for accurately and consistently shutting down the parasytic processing of Peterson.
Grace is being in the right relation with tension is the exact expression,the state to live, in relation and dialogue, difficult to obtain and to maintain.Finding the way to be in love again with the world. Thank you all
I loved the second half of this - getting into the tensions inherent even in approaching such an issue. It was beautiful to watch, and loved your voice in this matter Tim.
people need to be able to meet up in order to connect more meaningfully and find that elusive common road. With current work practices ( home workings, online meetings, texting, rushing about etc) there are few true places / opportunities for people to connect. School, college, churches, large organisations, were places for connecting.
Agree that you need more than just places for people to physically meet up, but also a way to afford better dialogue ( coffee and chat after a lecture, after an activity, at breakfast time, etc) .
Without places to meet, there is no chance for dialogue and for belonging to something at all.
Once you finish with school and college, the opportunities to meet people seem to be much reduced. People are lonely, becoming caught up in their own head. This is a big problem.
You can also close yourself off exclusively with a partner or within a family or even with a therapist or a narrow friend group. Can this lead us to not wrestling with things properly, not to love wisely?
You can similarly, I suspect, potentially lose yourself to wisdom and virtue building practices, to connecting and to relevance realisation via over indulging in books or in the theoretical or in academic activities.
All these practices potentially contribute to self-delusion and to a deepening of meaning crisis that the world is experiencing..
The room and not the road can dominate our lives. What proportion is optimal for a good life? What proportion is needed of each for a person to be responsible and also responsibility able?.
Our practices can affect others as well as ourselves. How can we afford people opportunities to live and love wisely? To put in place routes out of isolation?
Separately on Clinics:
Clinics can sometimes be built for staff /for the therapist rather than for the patient and community. Large rooms can be used more for staff meetings rather than for building community and building relationships within communities.
Encouraging volunteering, bringing dance, music, building, making, growing things, playing games into clinics seem important too. Giving a large portion of the ownership and say about the clinic over to the community in which it is situated might also help?
Maximally using rooms in clinics ( and university rooms) for lunchtime, day and nighttime activities. It is, after all, in the evenings and after work that people have time to mix.
All activities might ideally have getting to know each other and virtue / wisdom bulding practice elements. Similarly, for workplaces.
Therapy as a business can also be a problem if the vocational element is missing or the cost is too high.
Life is messy, harsh. Are therapists willing to play and get involved at the coalface? How after this do therapists ensure self care? Maybe virtue and wisdom building activities can benefit the therapist too?
Do therapist know enough about life/ the road, or are they also mainly in their room / world?
Thank you for a thought-provoking talk.
More than thousands words, "this is great" ^^
My beautiful mother will say, what is a mother without a little Child born "i" holding a little Child unfamiliar unto many! Mothers washing thy feet and wiping thy tears from your eyes! Thank you for having Us! Chosen to be born without shame but with boldness! Same measure
What books would you recommend a person who just wants to be where you are John? To be embedded in you? Please?
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Bingo. 1:08:02 Enlightenment (not really but a preview, for I learnt that from those who go above and beyond what's expected). Why does the body hurt when one sits in meditation but disappears when one comes out? Yet the pain will move whilst meditating to another part of the body as soon as you focus on it. The body is not in pain it is your heart. Ordinary? When you empty the heart and experience what wants to fill it up, without attaching to it. However, I did go to the extremes of Buddhism for both personal and professional reasons. I have a diagnosis of CRPS and fibromyalgia, but the symptoms are now all but gone (zero pharmaceuticals). Massive lifestyle changes and ongoing fatigue. But actually doing what I love now not what is expected of me. Read, Making a Mindful Nation: Mental Health and Governance in the 21st Century. If you want a genealogical anthropological account, according to Joanna Cook, of the secular mindfulness movement.
BINGO!!! This is exactly on point, yea? "EVERY WISH FULFILLED" E.T.
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Students what is dizziness? Students will say, come as a little Child "i"! Why? Before ye are born already knows "Who"? Yes, unfortunately many of these as far to murder nor to abort to tempt and as far to provoke! Beloved which ye prefer? Get thee behind Me nor SET UNDERFOOT! Time get thee behind Me! A little child born "i" to bring to remembrance and comes with comfort! Prepared for the Way for the little Child born "i". Many entitled world views will be shaken! Students will say even all Universities Foundations will be visited!
Students what is good? All fall short! Time given! Unfortunately many don't know? WHAT has to take place for time even to be given the OK! Students what is Noone can "ACCUSE"? YES, given time for the little Child born "i" AM! For the little Child born "i" will long for HIS FATHER "WHO GIVES INCREASE"? Unfortunately a little Child born "i". Even my beautiful prefer to choose their reproductive nor private parts more valuable than Me! My Beautiful murdering Me? Unborn to be born the "i" AM. Even who murdering once an innocents little ones! Before influence by these principalities who deceiveth since in the beginning till now! Keep watch!
Dear editor,
In future videos, may you please start to add a softened transition to cut to the standard Vervaeke Foundation plug in these conversations.
The immediate suddenly cut is very jarring and takes me out of the conversation as a listener, interrupting the flow that is found in these conversations.
Thank you
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