I can't comment on the video for some reason but I will comment here. The reason why they trusted the CIA was because the CIA thought that the people and people in the government were in against Castro. Basically, like Russia with Ukraine. Putin thought the people and people in the government were against the President of Ukraine but they were mistaken
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To be fair, the landing and resupply ships that were also crewed by Cuban exiles ran off as well. If they had ammo as well as the additional troops and vehicles still on the ships, they could've at least made a better fight of it.
It was fudged already, when the corals weren't accounted for. But that some elements cowardly redrew from their fellow combatants. That was vital, because they were a better fighting force
So what I'm getting from this is either go 100% deniable with nothing to tie you to the action, or go all in supporting the rebellion. The half measures are the worst of both worlds.
And a corollary to that; don't run operations like this without the full informed commitment of your own government. Because a substantial part of this fiasco was from Kennedy going "you're doing what? I didn't agree to that!", and pulling support...
I think there's a Bible passage that references this: "But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!" Revelations 3:16 To fully commit to one path or the other because half measures and equivocation often unsuitable.
Political wars never win. Washington screws up everything the US 30 trillion in the hole Washington's fault. If the men didn't tell Washington off during WW2 we would speaking Japanese or German now. Those men fought Washington more then the enemy.
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That implies that they had any chance at success whatsoever. Bautista's regime was horrifically violent and forced most Cubans to toil away on sugar plantations owned by foreign investors. In the first few years after the revolution, most of the Cuban expats were people or families who directly profited from the dictatorship and the plantations, so why would the people they oppessed less than 5 years ago help them regain power?
One thing I don't get is the CIA asked the Cuban exiles if there would be widespread disobedience among the Cubans if there was an invasion against Castro and the answer the top of the CIA got (I don't know what went on at the lower levels) was "yeah, Castro is a commie tyrant no one wants, but if you ask anyone in Cuba they will have to say they like the revolution because they're afraid." So with this "intel" it was reasonable to assume that even if the initial invasion was a clusterfuck, civil disobedience would cause the Castro regime to fall apart, just wait 7 days. Obviously the CIA completely misread the public sentiment in Cuba. Given what they thought the public in Cuba thought, it seemed even a half baked invasion would work and _if that given is true_ I agree with that sentiment. What I don't understand is that the CIA had thousands of Cuban exiles to interview and somehow not one guy was able to figure out what the Cuban public thought?
I watched the Cuban Missile Crisis movie and saw the bay of pigs referenced but never really knew what happened other than "we" had messed up. I'm glad that documentaries like this exist so that we may know our past.
I just went looking for one, and seems... There isn't? Kind of strange there's been no mega production of one. I can imagine no major US studio wanting to touch the subject, but thought some independent or Europeans may have.
I'm the son of a Cuban exile - what's wild to me is how many exiles (and their offspring) don't know what actually happened. They don't want to know the details, they only want to relive their experience. It's all or nothing with the Cuban exile community. They somewhat openly expect the Republican party to help them retake the island. These are, for the most part, people who were landowners or in the pocket of the puppet Batista's gov't. They never gave a crap about their people. They want their land and luxury back.
These videos actually break down and give you an idea of what was actually happening on the ground, not just a giant map with lines. Makes it way more educational and interesting. Thank you for all the video's you guys do great work!
This channel consistently puts out such high quality and informative content, I simply can't let your calls for engagement fall on deaf ears. Thank you for all of your hard work! It is appreciated!
"our internal policies prohibit us from sharing these specifics to avoid partners from going around our policies." In plain English: "We aren't going to tell you what you're doing wrong, because we want to shirk you of the pennies you get from this video. We make more money that way."
You don't understand how this website works. TH-cam gets paid from ads, too. This pressure comes from the White House to stop "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories", you know, because the regime wants to start WW3 to steal the election.
@@josephhelgersonjoseph6115 They change this constantly because otherwise, someone could figure it out. Its mostly automatic flagging by an AI, maybe not even Google knows how it works, as is common with AI.
@@Metal-Detecting-NC I third this! As I understand it the US special forces got lost in the mangrove forest and had to be rescued by local 🇵🇦 fishermen.
This is one of the most fascinating operations during the cold war that doesn't get enough coverage, such as this event and the Gulf of Tonkin incident... Excellent quality as we've come to deeply enjoy!
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I can only imagine what it would've been like to be on that carrier and being told to not offer any assistance. Having to listen to my allies over the radio telling me how they're being overwhelmed and I'm unable to help. I imagine many were feeling a muted rage indeed. Thanks for another great video!
I wouldn't call this one unbiased. you can literally hear that it was written with very few Castroist sources and leans almost entirely on the western-backed side. not to accuse Malice, or even suggest that the video having a bias is even bad, it's being told from a perspective and we need to keep that in mind. though I can imagine Cuban sorces are easy to come into for a project of this type.
I honestly didn't know the operation was this complex with Airpower and naval support from the USA in school they explain it like the rebels just landed on the beach but were ambushed because Castro had received inside info from the USSR
Thank you for this great work with extensive details of time, geography, political atmosphere, conviction on both sides, people and arms involved, and consequences, all very engaging and valuable history for me!
My favorite channel for learning about the operations and men of recent conflicts that are not traditionally covered. Very in depth and intimate information, thank you!
Ive been itching to see this channel cover this! Watched other vids but OR seems to get more granular and make the situation feel much more relatable and real-world. Truly appreciate all the work and time you guys put in! Also i dont know how much information is available on it, but a video on the battle that Roy Benavidez earned his MOH in would be amazing. Judging by the MOH citation, it was basically a movie that that guy lived through and would be cool to see OR's version of it.
Indeed. I was always left with the impression that they barely got ashore before they were annihilated by pro-Castro forces which were waiting for them. It turns out they did manage to establish deep beachheads before it went south. I learned something new.
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Classic CIA and US Government, abandoning allies, making idiotic mistakes, unfounded assumptions and making a mess of what could have been a major victory.
What could have been another major coup de etate that led to centuries of instability. How is central America doing? Haiti? Us interventions don't mean good things when they succeed. This defeat was an amazing victory for free Cubans.
@@robertoroberto9798damn, I guess the Korean people having to overthrow their own dictator, followed by 2 decades of instability until final liberalisation was nothing and it was all thanks to America and the CIA. It’s not “America bad”, but interventions are always messy and it’s better to be honest about reality than being fooled by the official story tellers who downplay stories that don’t support their narrative. Never forget that ISIS was contained and crippled after Timber Sycamore was stopped. Blindly trusting the suits in Washington is foolish.
It does my head in that content like your's gets suppressed, yet complete and utter nonsense gets shoved down my throat by the algorithm. Here's some extra engagement ;)
What a shame. I know we werent there, so it’s really easy to second guess 60 years in the future. But what a shame. We left men there to die after promising them our support. Cancel the operation if you aren’t going to help them as promised. Don’t send them to their deaths!
So much of You-Tube is frivolous non-sense. This channel is a rare gem. My time is important to me. I don't feel that time spent here is wasted. As always, thank you for another exceptional video. My history teacher barely touched this event.
My god, either cancel the operation or give them the support you promised them. Just sent people off to die for absolutely no reason. Sending people out to fight for you and leaving them with zero support is one of the most scummy things you can do IMO🤦♂️
@@CocoCrispy_ Do some research and not be spoon fed your information. Question: Where was Ukraines Army on 20 February 2022? Answer: Formed up on the Donbass Border planning to invade. THATS why Vlad went in. Now it might make some sense!
Very big effort on investigating and animate all the invasion. Well done, but you have several historical errors or one sided info. I tell you this not to antagonize or because I'm from Cuba, but to show most accurate events. Thanks for including the Battle of Playa Girón, or Bay of Pigs.
Not our government's finest moment. I can't imagine what it felt like to be on the beach, believing that supply and air support necessary for victory would always be there, only to find that they were abandoned in their hour of need. Or that the military sitting just offshore could only sit in vain as orders for them to assist the people dying on the beach never came.
It's not our government's fault overall, but rather just a big blunder by the CIA. Kennedy's hesitancy to approve air support and active resupply for the exiles is understandable as plausible deniability was probably the best move for the United States diplomatically. However, the CIA fumbled the ball big time by not only faulty intelligence but giving false hopes to the exiles in direct contrast with the U.S governments' official position. Even if their intel was right and the Cuban people would've risen up against Castro, Kennedy not providing any sort of active support to the exiles should've been enough for the CIA to call off the operation. Instead, the CIA just lied to them.
The same body that took down a legitimate democracy because a banana company told them to and the same body that said deadly weapons were in the Middle East.
Of course it's not our government's finest moment. It was just one of many attempts by us as the imperialist world hegemon throughout the second half of the 20th century to impose its will on people who dare to chart a different path than them.
Excellent video, as usual. In case anybody was wondering what happened to Pepe San Roman, here is an excerpt from Wikipedia: “After the brigade had ceased fighting on 19 April 1961, the third day of the Bay of Pigs Invasion, San Román and his men scattered into the woods and swamps. He was captured by Cuban militia on 25 April 1961. Román was sentenced to 30 years in prison in a mass trial for treason, along with everyone else who was captured. He was released from prison and flown to Miami on 24 December 1962. On 29 December 1962, Pepe San Román was on stage next to the 35th US president, John F. Kennedy, at the Orange Bowl in Miami during the homecoming ceremony for captured Brigade 2506 veterans. The other leaders of the Brigade also on stage at the occasion were José Miró Cardona and Manuel Artime. Pepe Perez San Román committed suicide by taking an overdose in Miami, Florida, on 10 September 1989. He was survived by two sons, Alfredo and Robert; two daughters, Marisela and Sandra; a brother, Roberto Pérez San Roman, a sister, Laly de la Cruz, and five grandchildren.”
"Castroist"? I'm old enough to remember the Bay of Pigs, and have never heard that term before. Is that supposed to be a perjorative description, as opposed to calling the defenders the Cuban Army?
It is probably a bad translation of “Castristas” or pro Castro forces. Back then I was 14 years old and read quite a few Cuban exiles publications and Magazines (in Spanish of course), and they usually referred Castro’s forces or sympathizers like that.
One can clearly see that the research was done with few pro-exile sources, they were overwhelmingly outnumbered and outgunned, but that they claimed to have lost very few men while they killed thousands. Sounds like propaganda to me.
If we had actually just given them the air support that was originally planned , even with the information leaks, it probably still could have been a victory. The US government offering support then abandoning all them all to die is the most disgusting betrayal.
how? They didn't have any support in the country. More air support would have just prolonged the inevitable. No uprising of Cubans was coming. It was a complete fantasy scenario. And the planning was atrocious.
not really, the only somewhat plausible effort they could have made is to go into to the mountains and wage a guerilla war from there, the way Castro did, but still, they were never meant to take on the regime head on and win, even if properly supplied and supported.
What would have been the outcome if the CIA had received its support and the operation succeeded in full? At best you put another Batista into power, who has all the baggage of Castro's human right's abuses and none of his energetic leadership. None of his autonomy. At worst, you have the 4th U.S. occupation of Cuba, confrontation with the Soviets, and worldwide condemnation.
Considering that they were literally committing treason on behalf of a Foreign Occupier; the Anti-Castro Fighters were treated pretty well, by Cuba, as POW's. And they must have known that, before they surrendered, in mass. Even though they are the sworn enemy of the United States; The Cubans have always struck me, as kind-of cool
Of course, the _reason_ they were sworn enemies of the US was that US pulled stunts like this. The aggressively anti-communist attitude of the US during this period did far more to cement Soviet influence over worldwide communist groups than anything the Soviets did...
I find it absolutely unacceptable that history videos that serve to educate people about real events get demonetized, but how to shaving your butt doesn’t
Great video as always. Rest in peace to the brave Cuban patriots who died defending their homeland. One day, the unjust and cruel embargo placed upon them by their imperialist hegemon next door will be lifted and the Cuban people will be allowed to prosper.
What i've learned watching every one of your videos you've ever made is that American combat effectiveness is determined by the competence of its leadership. And the only time americans ever suffer defeat is when they defeat themselves.
@@bradenhagen7977 The USN? The Navy that's been chased out of the Red Sea? Your Marines can only visit' 'The Shores of Tripoli'' with Houthi permission!
Thats how the MPAA operates as well. Want to know why your movie got an R rating instead of PG-13? Too bad, it's a secret. Edit, resubmit, better luck next time.
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I can't comment on the video for some reason but I will comment here.
The reason why they trusted the CIA was because the CIA thought that the people and people in the government were in against Castro.
Basically, like Russia with Ukraine.
Putin thought the people and people in the government were against the President of Ukraine but they were mistaken
If you haven’t seen it, you might like Tom Scott’s video called “there is no algorithm for the truth.” Its covers a lot of bases but its mostly philosophical. It explains a lot about the TH-cam algorithm, but its all from the point of view of a programmer with a linguistic degree with a mostly successful TH-cam channel. The talk is given at the royal institute so its like a longe Ted talk from the early days when ted talks were good.
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Whens Okinawa, and 'Hacksaw ridge' or is it out and youtube search is stupid?
"I want you to know that we will never abandon you"
- Guy who was definitely already in the process of abandoning them
To be fair, the landing and resupply ships that were also crewed by Cuban exiles ran off as well. If they had ammo as well as the additional troops and vehicles still on the ships, they could've at least made a better fight of it.
It was fudged already, when the corals weren't accounted for.
But that some elements cowardly redrew from their fellow combatants. That was vital, because they were a better fighting force
@@GintaPPE1000 yeah if only we accounted for our abandonment of you, we planned to not abandon you
which tells never trust the americans, they are your worst enemies ....
So what I'm getting from this is either go 100% deniable with nothing to tie you to the action, or go all in supporting the rebellion. The half measures are the worst of both worlds.
And a corollary to that; don't run operations like this without the full informed commitment of your own government. Because a substantial part of this fiasco was from Kennedy going "you're doing what? I didn't agree to that!", and pulling support...
I think there's a Bible passage that references this: "But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!" Revelations 3:16
To fully commit to one path or the other because half measures and equivocation often unsuitable.
"No half measures, Waltuh."
Political wars never win. Washington screws up everything the US 30 trillion in the hole Washington's fault. If the men didn't tell Washington off during WW2 we would speaking Japanese or German now. Those men fought Washington more then the enemy.
American foreign policy has been like this since vietnam thats why they havent won a war since then (except desert storm)
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Bay of pigs 🐖 OINK OINK
The Americans really set them up for failure...
Typical Democratic Party foreign policy in a nutshell
Hugely.
That implies that they had any chance at success whatsoever. Bautista's regime was horrifically violent and forced most Cubans to toil away on sugar plantations owned by foreign investors. In the first few years after the revolution, most of the Cuban expats were people or families who directly profited from the dictatorship and the plantations, so why would the people they oppessed less than 5 years ago help them regain power?
And I can't fathom just how much rage the Exiles must have against the US & especially the CIA.
Trusting the CIA... 😢
"He trusted the CIA" LOL
*he trusted the Democratic administration
Rookie mistake.
That's up there as one of the Classic Blunders
@@esthera3923right up there with challenging a Sicilian to a game of wits when DEATH is on the line!
That’s because the CIA Agent told him the most nine dangerous words in the World “I’m From The Government, and I’m here to help”
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Brilliant
This invasion was a clusterfuck from start to finish.
This video was a treat from start to finish!
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Edit 2: 1k woot!
Should we account for daylight savings?
What?
@@SpartacusColo It's another good argument for doing away with it.
@@mrgone658 much of the world already has.
One thing I don't get is the CIA asked the Cuban exiles if there would be widespread disobedience among the Cubans if there was an invasion against Castro and the answer the top of the CIA got (I don't know what went on at the lower levels) was "yeah, Castro is a commie tyrant no one wants, but if you ask anyone in Cuba they will have to say they like the revolution because they're afraid." So with this "intel" it was reasonable to assume that even if the initial invasion was a clusterfuck, civil disobedience would cause the Castro regime to fall apart, just wait 7 days. Obviously the CIA completely misread the public sentiment in Cuba. Given what they thought the public in Cuba thought, it seemed even a half baked invasion would work and _if that given is true_ I agree with that sentiment. What I don't understand is that the CIA had thousands of Cuban exiles to interview and somehow not one guy was able to figure out what the Cuban public thought?
And yet, the Cuban exiles absolutely shit on Castros forces
I watched the Cuban Missile Crisis movie and saw the bay of pigs referenced but never really knew what happened other than "we" had messed up. I'm glad that documentaries like this exist so that we may know our past.
The "messing up" started with pushing Castro into the Soviet sphere of influence just because he demanded fair terms of business from US corporations.
I just went looking for one, and seems... There isn't? Kind of strange there's been no mega production of one. I can imagine no major US studio wanting to touch the subject, but thought some independent or Europeans may have.
@@relwaretepthere’s plenty Spanish and German language material
I'm the son of a Cuban exile - what's wild to me is how many exiles (and their offspring) don't know what actually happened. They don't want to know the details, they only want to relive their experience. It's all or nothing with the Cuban exile community. They somewhat openly expect the Republican party to help them retake the island.
These are, for the most part, people who were landowners or in the pocket of the puppet Batista's gov't. They never gave a crap about their people. They want their land and luxury back.
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These videos actually break down and give you an idea of what was actually happening on the ground, not just a giant map with lines. Makes it way more educational and interesting. Thank you for all the video's you guys do great work!
Yes! A dynamic top-down overview showing relative movements in action makes the battle so much easier to understand.
Thanks TOR and Intel Report!
It's crazy that history videos aren't being suggested any more. If we don't learn from the past we are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past
thoes who censor history want us to repeat it.
TH-cam doesn't like anything that scares off advertisers
That's the point
Exactly, videos like this are why I know not to invade Cuba
Yea youtube sucks
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No mention of Alex Mason or Frank Woods
Or Joseph Bowman either.
@andrewmontgomery5621 honestly the only reason I didn't include him was I forgot what his first name was
Those names, Mason, what do they mean?
They don't call it black ops for no reason
Mason ?,try the jfk files you'll find funny contents about Mason im not claiming he did it though 😮
The chads ramming the tank and blasting its treads to block the road is the most badass tank story I've ever heard.
Sure, it's Cool but every War since WW2 all have some amazing Tank stories
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With friends like these, who needs enemies...
This is the most thorough coverage of the Bay of Pigs I've even seen, bravo!
I cannot imagine the amount of research that goes in to making these things. I wouldn't know where to begin. Truely incredible.
Um, the internet.
@@ExcavationNationcorn ball
"our internal policies prohibit us from sharing these specifics to avoid partners from going around our policies."
In plain English: "We aren't going to tell you what you're doing wrong, because we want to shirk you of the pennies you get from this video. We make more money that way."
Gotta love corpo greed, it knows no bounds.
You don't understand how this website works. TH-cam gets paid from ads, too. This pressure comes from the White House to stop "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories", you know, because the regime wants to start WW3 to steal the election.
Someone needs to hack into YT and try to get an internal memo of their specific policies and leak it online.
"we won't tell you our rules, because we wouldn't want you to not break them"
@@josephhelgersonjoseph6115 They change this constantly because otherwise, someone could figure it out. Its mostly automatic flagging by an AI, maybe not even Google knows how it works, as is common with AI.
Excellent video. Could you do one on Operation Just Cause -Panama 1989?
I second this
@@Metal-Detecting-NC I third this!
As I understand it the US special forces got lost in the mangrove forest and had to be rescued by local 🇵🇦 fishermen.
fourth this
This entire operation should have been canceled.
Can't help themselves though, Empire doesn't build itself.
Either cancelled or supported as promised with supplies and ammunition. No half measures
@@orterves it WAS supported, but Castro sank or kicked away supply ships.
@@bogster9 Regardless of what they are called, kingdoms, corporations, or international socalism. They all wind up doing the same shady shit.
@@fahey5719air support is crucial to any strike plan. The support was not there. The operation should have never commenced.
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Hell yeah
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And Darth Jar Jar waits in the shadows
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@@davidvasquez08 you want to go home and rethink your life
TOR, you have an amazing channel. The maps really help me understand what’s going on on these historic battles.
Props to the M41 crews, very War Thunder play.
That was excellent tank work
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This is one of the most fascinating operations during the cold war that doesn't get enough coverage, such as this event and the Gulf of Tonkin incident... Excellent quality as we've come to deeply enjoy!
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13:10 "Failed to take daylight savings time into consideration." WTF? These Whitehouse amateurs never heard of Z time, obviously
I can only imagine what it would've been like to be on that carrier and being told to not offer any assistance. Having to listen to my allies over the radio telling me how they're being overwhelmed and I'm unable to help. I imagine many were feeling a muted rage indeed. Thanks for another great video!
The level of incompetence is just immeasurable. What kind of war is this? Peninsula War?
That's the Yanks!
Wait til they get thrown out of Vietnam and Afghan!
Freedumb!
It's so incompetent that it makes me wonder if the CIA wasn't just using this to start a real war, and Kennedy just didn't oblige them.
Peninsular War, but when Wellington and Napoleon both weren't there.
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Thank you for making these videos. I left comments on the other history channels as well. Your content is very much appreciated.
This channel deserves more views and recommendations
Your unbiased and factual coverage of military events is so so valuable these days. Thank you so much for the work your team does. Keep em coming!
Unbiased to the to the point of callousness for sure
Thanks guys and girls for all your hard work!! All I can say is fu. you tube you don't have a clue.
idk if I'd call this one unbiased lol
I wouldn't call this one unbiased.
you can literally hear that it was written with very few Castroist sources and leans almost entirely on the western-backed side.
not to accuse Malice, or even suggest that the video having a bias is even bad, it's being told from a perspective and we need to keep that in mind. though I can imagine Cuban sorces are easy to come into for a project of this type.
unbiased? really
Amazing video, as usual from this channel. Keep at it!
history cant be censored. Or we are doomed to repeat it. You guys do great work.
I literally just tried to see if this was posted 3 minutes ago lol awesome timing!
Always love your videos! When I see a new video I set aside sometime in the week to sit down with a drink & enjoy the video!
Intelligence services should never be allowed to act without the knowledge of the civilian leaders they're subordinate to
Just what a truly insane story told by a great and reliable channel
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Here's a boost to the algorithm. Fascinating, as are all of your documentaries.
Great video
Gotta love these videos about important but also forgotten historic moments. Keep it up
I honestly didn't know the operation was this complex with Airpower and naval support from the USA in school they explain it like the rebels just landed on the beach but were ambushed because Castro had received inside info from the USSR
That's how I learned it too - and not even in school, but through TV documentaries! The truth is far more fascinating and tragic.
I love when the Ops Room posts. I learn so much from this
I do enjoy the video, I hit the like button, and now I'm leaving a comment!
Well done team. Excellent telling of an important history
Wow didnt realize just how important the bay of pigs was for both the Cuban missile crisis and Vietnam, most likely JFK end in Dallas too.
specially that Dallas stunt
Thank you for this great work with extensive details of time, geography, political atmosphere, conviction on both sides, people and arms involved, and consequences, all very engaging and valuable history for me!
I will download all your videos, just in case. Thank you for all you do. Please, don't stop.
Put them on the internet archives just incase
My favorite channel for learning about the operations and men of recent conflicts that are not traditionally covered. Very in depth and intimate information, thank you!
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Ive been itching to see this channel cover this! Watched other vids but OR seems to get more granular and make the situation feel much more relatable and real-world. Truly appreciate all the work and time you guys put in!
Also i dont know how much information is available on it, but a video on the battle that Roy Benavidez earned his MOH in would be amazing. Judging by the MOH citation, it was basically a movie that that guy lived through and would be cool to see OR's version of it.
I had no idea the exiles held on for so long against such overwhelming odds, I would be a lucky man to have even 1/10th of their courage
They were fanatics that wanted their slaves back. Good riddance.
Indeed. I was always left with the impression that they barely got ashore before they were annihilated by pro-Castro forces which were waiting for them. It turns out they did manage to establish deep beachheads before it went south. I learned something new.
@@revanamell1791And you’re a moron who sympathizes with a failed regime which Cubans flee en masse. Absolute idiot.
@@revanamell1791As opposed to the other fanatics that while didn’t have as much slavery, had worse living conditions and still under a brutal regime?
@@robertoroberto9798 cope gusano.
The Operations Room is a wonderful channel. Such good teaching of military history is seldom found outside history faculties.
Suppressing history is a crime as history on this channel is relevant today and on the Operations Room it is done thoroughly which has all my respects. I appreciate how content creators try to keep things as free as possible but I would happily pay for content from the Operations room which I would never do any where else. (Point being well done to the Operations room and screw TH-cam)
Great work from The Operations Room, as usual
Classic CIA and US Government, abandoning allies, making idiotic mistakes, unfounded assumptions and making a mess of what could have been a major victory.
Yeah, but this whole thing in Vietnam will be completely different.
What could have been another major coup de etate that led to centuries of instability.
How is central America doing? Haiti? Us interventions don't mean good things when they succeed.
This defeat was an amazing victory for free Cubans.
College education at its finest.
@@MultiAwesomeredSo I guess Korea just doesn’t exist? Even Iraq and Kurdistan right now are doing better than they could’ve been with Saddam.
@@robertoroberto9798damn, I guess the Korean people having to overthrow their own dictator, followed by 2 decades of instability until final liberalisation was nothing and it was all thanks to America and the CIA. It’s not “America bad”, but interventions are always messy and it’s better to be honest about reality than being fooled by the official story tellers who downplay stories that don’t support their narrative. Never forget that ISIS was contained and crippled after Timber Sycamore was stopped. Blindly trusting the suits in Washington is foolish.
As always, superb stuff, twenty years ago you'd be on discovery channel during prime time. We don't deserve you lot.
Your work is invaluable in it’s importance; keep it up, friend!
It does my head in that content like your's gets suppressed, yet complete and utter nonsense gets shoved down my throat by the algorithm. Here's some extra engagement ;)
Incredible content that needs to be shared with a much wider audience
What a shame. I know we werent there, so it’s really easy to second guess 60 years in the future. But what a shame. We left men there to die after promising them our support. Cancel the operation if you aren’t going to help them as promised. Don’t send them to their deaths!
Another OUTSTANDING presentation! Thank you TOR
So much of You-Tube is frivolous non-sense. This channel is a rare gem. My time is important to me. I don't feel that time spent here is wasted.
As always, thank you for another exceptional video. My history teacher barely touched this event.
Thank you, TOR, I had no idea how close the invasion came to be successful or the magnitude of the American betrayal.
Best breakdown of this engagement I've ever seen. Thank you!
"so guys we gonna help liberate cuba"
"That's great, we gonna need your help"
"Hey man we need your help"
"Who are you?"
Best history videos on TH-cam
My god, either cancel the operation or give them the support you promised them. Just sent people off to die for absolutely no reason. Sending people out to fight for you and leaving them with zero support is one of the most scummy things you can do IMO🤦♂️
Tell that to the Ukrainians!
@ they are literally being invaded what do you mean. Not like they can cancel it or just go home
@@CocoCrispy_ Do some research and not be spoon fed your information.
Question: Where was Ukraines Army on 20 February 2022?
Answer: Formed up on the Donbass Border planning to invade.
THATS why Vlad went in.
Now it might make some sense!
@@CocoCrispy_sure they can
@@CAPDude44 yeah sure and give up their country to the Russians outta all people. No thanks
You have a great team that puts together wonderful content. Keep it up, I for one am always watching.
I am retired. Interest rates and inflation have squeezed my budget to nothing. Love your shows and you always get my likes.
That line “we’ll never abandon you “ from a CIA agent, must make a persons gut turn to know they’re betrayed and doomed.
Very big effort on investigating and animate all the invasion. Well done, but you have several historical errors or one sided info. I tell you this not to antagonize or because I'm from Cuba, but to show most accurate events. Thanks for including the Battle of Playa Girón, or Bay of Pigs.
Yall have been hitting it out of the park with your content! Keep it up!
Not our government's finest moment. I can't imagine what it felt like to be on the beach, believing that supply and air support necessary for victory would always be there, only to find that they were abandoned in their hour of need. Or that the military sitting just offshore could only sit in vain as orders for them to assist the people dying on the beach never came.
It's not our government's fault overall, but rather just a big blunder by the CIA. Kennedy's hesitancy to approve air support and active resupply for the exiles is understandable as plausible deniability was probably the best move for the United States diplomatically. However, the CIA fumbled the ball big time by not only faulty intelligence but giving false hopes to the exiles in direct contrast with the U.S governments' official position. Even if their intel was right and the Cuban people would've risen up against Castro, Kennedy not providing any sort of active support to the exiles should've been enough for the CIA to call off the operation. Instead, the CIA just lied to them.
The same body that took down a legitimate democracy because a banana company told them to and the same body that said deadly weapons were in the Middle East.
I hate to brake it to you but the CIA is a part of the American government. So yeah it’s a government failure. Poor intelligence, poor planning
Of course it's not our government's finest moment. It was just one of many attempts by us as the imperialist world hegemon throughout the second half of the 20th century to impose its will on people who dare to chart a different path than them.
Commenting for the algorithm. Great video as always!
Excellent video, as usual. In case anybody was wondering what happened to Pepe San Roman, here is an excerpt from Wikipedia: “After the brigade had ceased fighting on 19 April 1961, the third day of the Bay of Pigs Invasion, San Román and his men scattered into the woods and swamps. He was captured by Cuban militia on 25 April 1961. Román was sentenced to 30 years in prison in a mass trial for treason, along with everyone else who was captured. He was released from prison and flown to Miami on 24 December 1962. On 29 December 1962, Pepe San Román was on stage next to the 35th US president, John F. Kennedy, at the Orange Bowl in Miami during the homecoming ceremony for captured Brigade 2506 veterans. The other leaders of the Brigade also on stage at the occasion were José Miró Cardona and Manuel Artime. Pepe Perez San Román committed suicide by taking an overdose in Miami, Florida, on 10 September 1989. He was survived by two sons, Alfredo and Robert; two daughters, Marisela and Sandra; a brother, Roberto Pérez San Roman, a sister, Laly de la Cruz, and five grandchildren.”
Incredible video as always, and on one of the most interesting time periods for me personally! Keep up the amazing work!
"Castroist"? I'm old enough to remember the Bay of Pigs, and have never heard that term before. Is that supposed to be a perjorative description, as opposed to calling the defenders the Cuban Army?
I was thinking the same thing, seems petty to me
It is probably a bad translation of “Castristas” or pro Castro forces.
Back then I was 14 years old and read quite a few Cuban exiles publications and Magazines (in Spanish of course), and they usually referred Castro’s forces or sympathizers like that.
@@billace90 Ah . . Sounds like we have the answer. Which is good, because I didn't want to think our trusty Historical Guide was editorializing here.
One can clearly see that the research was done with few pro-exile sources, they were overwhelmingly outnumbered and outgunned, but that they claimed to have lost very few men while they killed thousands. Sounds like propaganda to me.
@@josephmarciano4761 they would never do that! /s
I’m always waiting impatiently for your next video, absolute class, keep up the great work
Comment for algorithm, keep it up!
Absolutely love your speaking demeanor and the topics you cover. Thank you for the content!
Another great argument for doing away with daylight savings time....
If we had actually just given them the air support that was originally planned , even with the information leaks, it probably still could have been a victory.
The US government offering support then abandoning all them all to die is the most disgusting betrayal.
how? They didn't have any support in the country. More air support would have just prolonged the inevitable. No uprising of Cubans was coming. It was a complete fantasy scenario. And the planning was atrocious.
They need ammo supplies, not air support
not really, the only somewhat plausible effort they could have made is to go into to the mountains and wage a guerilla war from there, the way Castro did, but still, they were never meant to take on the regime head on and win, even if properly supplied and supported.
@@navyseal1689no amount of ammo and air force will make a population support you they would’ve lost anyways
What would have been the outcome if the CIA had received its support and the operation succeeded in full? At best you put another Batista into power, who has all the baggage of Castro's human right's abuses and none of his energetic leadership. None of his autonomy. At worst, you have the 4th U.S. occupation of Cuba, confrontation with the Soviets, and worldwide condemnation.
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Considering that they were literally committing treason on behalf of a Foreign Occupier; the Anti-Castro Fighters were treated pretty well, by Cuba, as POW's. And they must have known that, before they surrendered, in mass. Even though they are the sworn enemy of the United States; The Cubans have always struck me, as kind-of cool
Of course, the _reason_ they were sworn enemies of the US was that US pulled stunts like this. The aggressively anti-communist attitude of the US during this period did far more to cement Soviet influence over worldwide communist groups than anything the Soviets did...
Great vid as always!
I find it absolutely unacceptable that history videos that serve to educate people about real events get demonetized, but how to shaving your butt doesn’t
best military history channel around. never change!
Great video as always. Rest in peace to the brave Cuban patriots who died defending their homeland. One day, the unjust and cruel embargo placed upon them by their imperialist hegemon next door will be lifted and the Cuban people will be allowed to prosper.
What i've learned watching every one of your videos you've ever made is that American combat effectiveness is determined by the competence of its leadership. And the only time americans ever suffer defeat is when they defeat themselves.
FREEDUMB!!!!
Our Navy has highlighted this point wonderfully.
Good thing we have a leader that is sharp as a tack and hummana mummbunna hairy legs......
It's almost over...
@@bradenhagen7977 The USN?
The Navy that's been chased out of the Red Sea?
Your Marines can only visit' 'The Shores of Tripoli'' with Houthi permission!
"To avoid people going around our policies "?
We won't tell you the rules because then you might follow them? What the actual fuck is that?
Thats how the MPAA operates as well. Want to know why your movie got an R rating instead of PG-13? Too bad, it's a secret. Edit, resubmit, better luck next time.
Stop electing Leftists.
Keep up the great work from you and your team