Swap 4090 and Elgato. The bottom slot is still PCIe 4.0 x16 and the 4090 is PCIe 4.0 as well. See Mainboard Manual, Page 5. The card will overhang the PCIe bracket slot area, but since I do not see an obstacle there (25:01), it should be possible to fasten it with one screw at the back. Should hold although it misses the second screw. The area now resting below the slots can exhaust through the mesh in the case there. Plugs for HDAudio, USB 2.0, SYS_FAN, RGB and the like could prove to be a problem though, because the graphics card might block them now. :( UPDATE: The newer BIOS versions for this board allow bifurcation on all PCIe slots, so this is a moot point now. Just add the cards wherever they fit. :)
Secret 3rd option. Put the Elgato on an M.2 Oculink adapter for breakout. Then you can use a vertical style or Low Profile PCIe to NVMe adaptor. I'd have to look at the motherboard manual, but if the bottom x16 slot is from the CPU I see no problem with doing it that way. Day 400 of asking for a PIO motherboard that puts an x16 slot off the top of the motherboard (Parallel to it). Then all the other slots will have plenty of room. Even if there will only be room for 4 of them, none of them can block the GPU.
What would *I* do in that situation? I think I'd be sweating so profusely that I'd faint trying to slot anything in. (I've never built a PC yet but I am moving, slowly towards getting all the parts. A build like this, to me, is so far beyond. It's nice to live vicariously through you guys to see what it's like. Okay, gonna go watch Part 2 now!
Paul, for what it's worth the workaround for the network issue doesn't work anymore for Win 11. Just built a PC with an MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Wifi motherboard and there was absolutely no way to get past the Windows 11 setup screen that requires a network. The keyboard, which worked the entire time, didn't work on that page to do Shift F10 to open the command prompt to enter the keywords to bypass the screen. Wifi didn't work. LAN didn't work. Even tethering to my phone didn't work. Microsoft was absolutely no help, as expected. The only thing that saved me was seeing deep within a sub-Reddit that a USB Wifi dongle worked. That's what saved me but it was 4 days of hair pulling. Once installed I downloaded the updated drivers for the motherboard and all is good. So, not sure if Microsoft is hip to the workaround of the network issue or what but just a heads up. That was my experience.
Thanks for the heads up, this is the first I've heard of the command prompt being blocked in the setup environment, if that's the case it really sucks.
@@paulshardware Maybe I was doing something wrong but the keyboard worked in the previous screens so I know for a fact it was good but there was absolutely no way to pull up that command prompt. Just an FYI in case others run into something similar where they can't see any network to get past that screen. Without your PC building videos I wouldn't have been able to build the thing at all. Thanks!!
I think you were doing something wrong because I just built mine less than a month ago and I was able to get around it. I think it was different than his build guide video, haven't got to it in this video yet, but a Google search for me around it and I was able to get the command prompt up and bypass it.
thanks to you and GamerNexus I build a good midrange pc. If I would have the money I would have loved to build a high end one too but at the moment not possible. Still I can play many of my games in ultra and thats what counts for me.
perhaps you could deshroud the 4090, and that portion that pushes out beyond 2 slots will be enough clearance for the capture card. and the capture care would be in the way, so you couldn't see the deshrouded GPU!
It's christams time , and there's no need to be afraid,at christmas time we let in light and we bannish shade, but in the world of techies we must spred a smile of joy, stop your filler and go and buy a toy!
Not sure if/how that silver fan shroud works on that GPU, but can you just remove the silver piece on the GPU to give you more space? Just looks like its sticking up a bit too far. Happy holidays gents!
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
I believe once you update the BIOS, you should be able to have the GPU in the top slot and the quad M.2 in the middle. Early BIOS only supported bifurcation on the top slot but according to Level1Techs, that was rectified in later BIOS releases.
@@paulshardware No problem. They titled the full review of the board 'Overclocking Threadripper 7000 on the TRX50 Aero D'. He shows the options in the BIOS around 15:55 in the video.
Since the case has plenty of room due to lack of radiators, I think it might be best to vertically mount the GPU in the front of the case and then use the bottom PCIe slot for the capture card. At least I think that's what I would try :)
It should allow him to get more done per hour. In fact... Upgrading your editor's rig could potentially give them fewer chances to chill while waiting for the system to complete a task
Regarding the PCIe slot clearance isues: As already mentioned, option one would be to use Lian Li's upgright GPU kit to mount the card over the fan tray at the front. This would also a) bypass the potential clearance issues with the tubes that you touched on, or b) use an aircooled GPU after all. Alternatively you could consider swapping the SSD AIC to a card with its own PLX-Chip to do the bifurcation itself without the need for support on the motherboard side. I think those can get pretty expensive and often only go to gen 3 speeds though...
Put some capton tape on the 4090 where the capture card comes in contact with it and call it good, it’s durable, very resistant to heat and electrically insulating.
I was going to say the same thing, but I second this suggestion. You can buy capton is self adhesive tape or sheet form in various thincknesses/sizes and cut to size you would need for that 4k cap card.
For the pcie cards, i would replace the Aorus card with a HighPoint NVME RAID card. More expensive, but shows up as a single drive, uses all 16 lanes, and is even bootable. Then you could put the gpu in the top slot, NVME RAID in the second, and capture in the bottom with no issue.
Awesomesauce video as always guys. I was voting for one epic long video. But actually watching it in 2 parts, makes me appreciate the time it takes to build Joe's new editing rig. My concern so far is the airflow on the CPU cooler. The M.2 adapter card blocks almost half the suction fan. I imagine by now we would know if it has had any issue in cooling. It's cool watching Joe put together his latest editing rig. And knowing how he separates the drives, like i try to do. Caffeinator out!
Any comments or updates, after the angled adapter recall, regarding 4090s and the 12 VH power? Or does that just solidify your view of wanting to make sure you can go direct cable from PSU to GPU?
I want your PC Joe. haha Honestly tho, I'd be fine with a 16 core CPU and 64GB of memory on the HEDT platform. It really sucks that even though AMD calls this platform HEDT - it's most definitely not HEDT and is Lite Workstation instead. Registered memory is not HEDT neither is spending more than $1200 for 12 core or $1500 for 16 core (with the motherboard and 64GB of memory).
My word Joe.. I said Paul was a cool boss but in the words of Michael Palin's prisoner in Life of Brian.. "you lucky, lucky b*****d". That's some serious Nvme-age, to say nothing of the remaining hardware. That said I know you'll use it well 😎👍🎉 For the capture card I'd go for an external solution but it's all academic as in 24 hours time we shall see what you opted for anyway, leaving my choice with a 50/50 shot of adoption.
Or a thin but firm plastic sheet to stop the risk of soldering points to go through the thermal pad and short out the Elgato board on the metal shroud of the GPU?
I wouldn't put an Enermax PSU or a brand like Montech in a $10,000 build I would probably go with Seasonic as my first choice and at least 10 other brands before I went with Enermax lol. I also probably would have went with the 011 dynamic evo XL or Phanteks NV7 or like the H9 Flow for more radiator support lol. But that's the beautiful thing about hardware it's all subjective.
Hi Paul. That's one fantastic employee Christmas Bonus. Say, that desk pad looks similar to the one I found in my Christmas stocking. My wife needed to remember where she bought it.
first all dont use AIOs when you go for watercooling. Secondly never ever buy a cpu block with a pump inside. Pump should run seperatly. I have a system which runs since 2 years without problem and prior system did run 5 years before I exchanged it. Maintenance as with fan setups is important as well
My dad's company is looking to upgrade their server for hardware simulation. He got a quote from Dell for a new one for 9k, but it has dual intel cpus both at 16 cores. I suggested he build one of these for half the cost, and he's told me (minus the gpu and crazy storage) to build this exact computer! Pretty cool opportunity.
One idea I had about the capture card issue was one of those Z shaped x16 offset adapters. The bottom part plugs into the board slot moving the connecter down a slot on the case giving you space away from the GPU. Or get 2 90 degree adapters to make your own offset. Or a different mobo that works better with the parts you have lol
@@ghostrideralex11 Yeah, it's cheaper. You can even get it at the Dollar Tree. But if you're building an $8,000+ system, I think you can splurge a couple extra dollars for Kapton tape. :D
Warp stabilizer eats up ram when working with long clips, also rendering preview files can take up ram, software such as after effects uses ram to store temp files, and can add up quick.
I have a soundblaster z right below my msi geforce 970 with a normal cooler. Actually it is blocking one of the two fans on the gpu. I’ve had this configuration for like around six years, and everything has been fine. Don’t worry too much about the capture card, it will be fine, especially with the blower style cooler on the card!
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
What a beast of a machine, it’s going to stomp whatever task you throw at it! I definitely would have just removed the capture card & figure it out later! Congrats Joe!
I finished my 2nd PC build last January. I have $5,895.00 invested in this Intel system. Parts list: Segotep Pheonix T-1 E-ATX case; Seasonic Prime 80+ Platinum 1,300 watt PSU; Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master MB; Intel Raptor Lake Core i9-13900k CPU; Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX-3090 Xtreme GPU; 128 GIG kit of G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR-5 6400Mhz RAM; 3-Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 Nvme SSDs(1 for programs, 1 for files, 1 for system backup); Corsair H150i 360mm radiator AIO cooler; 3-Corsair ML-140 RGB Elite case fans; Acer Predator X38 38" curved monitor; Samsung SE-S184 external DVD burner; Logitech MK875 wireless keyboard and mouse; Windows 11Pro OS. At 66 years old, I am pretty proud of this build project. Can't really justify the money spent, but it sure was fun to build.
Just checked the BIOS setup guide for the motherboard. In page 14, it says that all 3 PCI-e slots have bifurcation options. PCIEX16_1 Bifurcation Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_1 slot is divided. PCIEX16_2 Bifurcation Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_2 slot is divided. PCIEX16_3 Bifurcation Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_3 slot is divided.
I had a bit of an issue in the Fractal Define 7 with the bottom slot where the modules would catch on the case when inserting (Giggidy) them into my X520 NIC, so I just used a riser cable and slotted it vertically and that resolved my problem. This solution for that Lian Li case would mean either getting a new case or dremel time.
Given that current gen Threadripper can support up to 1TB of RAM (or maybe more?), and up to a 96-core CPU, this system isn't even necessarily "high end", at least as far as workstations go. However, of course, in many ways, this definitely is a high-end system.
Oh this build is going to be painful. You want to AIR COOL a Threadripper? Whatever Joe's got you smoking, can I have some? You worry about the mere possibility of a water cooling pump failing and maybe corrupting your host OS, but you're not at all worried about 32TB of flash storage?🤦♂
Just put insulating tape on the back of the capture card., and shift the mounting screws slightly. I'd put the AIO toward the top, with another intake below, and an exhaust out the back.
I have 2 partitions (one each on 2 separate STORAGE MEDIUMS) for just files, the rest of my storage is for games except boot drive which is almost entirely just except boot drive which is just OS and software that refuses any other drive. PS sorry for caps they were accidental
I would have forgone the bifurcation card, obtained 4x 8TB NvME Gen 4 drives and installed the 4090 in the top slot, giving plenty of access for the capture card in the bottom slot.
Look.... I got to build my first PC this year, and I made a monster. Honestly, I made the decision to go with a 4080 over a 4090 for electricity costs through the year, and thought that that was the only compromise that could've made the build better. Boy, was I wrong.
Threadripper……. I’d like to see how Joe uses this PC that would require such power! I would use a liquid cooler for the CPU, it should not fail unless you bought a crappy AIO or it was defective! You will want all the cooling you can get; and having a liquid cooler for the GPU but not the CPU is just odd. Since you are going big you should just build a liquid cooling PC
Seeing the 8 m.2 cards laid out side by side…I started to salivate. I must be sick. If an extension cable can’t be fitted to mount the capture card…Looks like the GPU would fit in slot 1 with the expansion card in slot 2, which has a circuitry-protecting backplate (unlike the capture card). The fan on the GPU might not get good airflow tho.
Hey Paul, I was just showing my sister this build as I've just built my system in the white Vision case and it reminded me that my case did NOT have the two silicon covers included, for use when the motherboard is used in the lower position, looking around the internet, this seems to be a common 'oversight' of Lian Li's, perhaps you might be able to get some info/reason, from Lian Li, as to why so many people are reporting the same thing? As far as I know there is only one outlet for the Vision case here in the Uk, perhaps Lian Li could send a bag of these covers to them (OverclockersUK) so they might send them out to all who've bought one of these cases and tuck a pair in each Vision box for all future purchaser's.
I'm in a similar position in terms of wanting a capture card, My mobo has 2x x16 slots and 1x x1 slot. They are arranged 16 1 16 The 1 is too close to my GPU to be useful really so I had to plug my soundcard into the second 15 and currently Can't really think about a capture card in that x1 slot.
forgive me if this is a stupid question and follow up questions, but why not use an AIO for the CPU? Would an AIO not be more efficient? Or does the Threadripper not get warm enough to justify an extra radiator in the case? Or is the current CPU cooler just that efficient to not justify using an AIO?
Every time I see someone installing a threadripper CPU I get flashbacks to derbauer dropping his into the socket. As to the capture card I'd just go external for simplicity's sake
From what you are doing it Already shows the the Vision is not the case for top Exhaust and you need the Evo. LOL Paul's mod mat Add the 4k capture card and wedge a thermal pad between and add 2 fans to the bottom/ RGB.
At 16:26 Paul says he does not know why the memory has a bump. Isn't that the DDR5 memory controller? I would have thought he would know that. Update as another commenter pointer out it is the Regret Clock Driver
I figured he would raid 0 everything but the boot/program drive. Just so you have massive bandwidth for working with the files. I'm also surprised that the heatsink is so narrow.
See if Lian Li has a side GPU mount for that case and use a PCIE Riser card for the graphic card or capture card. If that doesn't work, maybe teflon tape the back of that capture card to prevent any shorts.
10k build fail - actually did you expect anything less - i would lay case down to avoid sockets sag - you will figure out the capture issue - just get a usb capture - this machine will do well for years and you can always upgrade to 8tb nvme and 1tb ram when prices drop in 3-4 yrs to get another couple years out of it - should be a great long term build but waiting for zen5 is probably what most people will do - professionals will throw their money at the best gear - it is a no brainer and will save lots of time - you should have this in a series - parts 2/3/4. you all insisted on building with case standing up and made it tough on yourselves - a couple big spinning rust drives would have been nice - or 4 to back up all the nvme pls do benchmarks and compare to the old rig #unobtanium obtained
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Cough cough, what's Joe's Girl's twitch name?
Swap 4090 and Elgato. The bottom slot is still PCIe 4.0 x16 and the 4090 is PCIe 4.0 as well. See Mainboard Manual, Page 5.
The card will overhang the PCIe bracket slot area, but since I do not see an obstacle there (25:01), it should be possible to fasten it with one screw at the back. Should hold although it misses the second screw. The area now resting below the slots can exhaust through the mesh in the case there.
Plugs for HDAudio, USB 2.0, SYS_FAN, RGB and the like could prove to be a problem though, because the graphics card might block them now. :(
UPDATE: The newer BIOS versions for this board allow bifurcation on all PCIe slots, so this is a moot point now. Just add the cards wherever they fit. :)
They need the top slot for the bifurcation of the expansion ssds. the bottom slot does not have it. they stated that in the video.
@@ChromeEagle86 the asus m.2 sled needs the bifrication, the elgatos just a capture card so quests point is valid
Secret 3rd option. Put the Elgato on an M.2 Oculink adapter for breakout. Then you can use a vertical style or Low Profile PCIe to NVMe adaptor.
I'd have to look at the motherboard manual, but if the bottom x16 slot is from the CPU I see no problem with doing it that way. Day 400 of asking for a PIO motherboard that puts an x16 slot off the top of the motherboard (Parallel to it). Then all the other slots will have plenty of room. Even if there will only be room for 4 of them, none of them can block the GPU.
@@ChromeEagle86I think he means GPU in the third x16 slot. Which should work? 🤷🏼♂️
They can put 4090 to 3rd slot. And elgato to 2nd. First slot will not change.
Pail I have been watching you for about 6 years now.
Really enjoy all your videos. You did Joe a real solid here. NIce work guys
Great video part 1. Love the back and forth banter between you two
What would *I* do in that situation? I think I'd be sweating so profusely that I'd faint trying to slot anything in. (I've never built a PC yet but I am moving, slowly towards getting all the parts. A build like this, to me, is so far beyond. It's nice to live vicariously through you guys to see what it's like. Okay, gonna go watch Part 2 now!
Sheesh! That cooler tower is HUGE!!!
I think it's actually larger than my dachshund's head!
GOOD LUCK with that Enermax PSU. GOOD LUCK!!! - I hope you have insurance.
Paul, for what it's worth the workaround for the network issue doesn't work anymore for Win 11. Just built a PC with an MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Wifi motherboard and there was absolutely no way to get past the Windows 11 setup screen that requires a network. The keyboard, which worked the entire time, didn't work on that page to do Shift F10 to open the command prompt to enter the keywords to bypass the screen. Wifi didn't work. LAN didn't work. Even tethering to my phone didn't work. Microsoft was absolutely no help, as expected. The only thing that saved me was seeing deep within a sub-Reddit that a USB Wifi dongle worked. That's what saved me but it was 4 days of hair pulling. Once installed I downloaded the updated drivers for the motherboard and all is good. So, not sure if Microsoft is hip to the workaround of the network issue or what but just a heads up. That was my experience.
Thanks for the heads up, this is the first I've heard of the command prompt being blocked in the setup environment, if that's the case it really sucks.
@@paulshardware Maybe I was doing something wrong but the keyboard worked in the previous screens so I know for a fact it was good but there was absolutely no way to pull up that command prompt. Just an FYI in case others run into something similar where they can't see any network to get past that screen. Without your PC building videos I wouldn't have been able to build the thing at all. Thanks!!
I think you were doing something wrong because I just built mine less than a month ago and I was able to get around it. I think it was different than his build guide video, haven't got to it in this video yet, but a Google search for me around it and I was able to get the command prompt up and bypass it.
It’s Shift F10, not Control F10.
Sounds like a keyboard problem or something. I was able to bypass the setup a few days ago without any issue.
thanks to you and GamerNexus I build a good midrange pc. If I would have the money I would have loved to build a high end one too but at the moment not possible. Still I can play many of my games in ultra and thats what counts for me.
Merry Christmas Paul & Joe
Custom Water Block for the Graphics Card would be better!! more cost but best solution with out modification!
perhaps you could deshroud the 4090, and that portion that pushes out beyond 2 slots will be enough clearance for the capture card. and the capture care would be in the way, so you couldn't see the deshrouded GPU!
maybe gpu on rizer card facing side window and capture caed behind it? perhaps it will have enough room?
Is there room to install an 1/8" piece of Lexan on top of the Elgato card?
For $10,000 I'd expect to see a custom watercooling loop, maybe even a custom waterblock.
It's christams time , and there's no need to be afraid,at christmas time we let in light and we bannish shade, but in the world of techies we must spred a smile of joy, stop your filler and go and buy a toy!
Not sure if/how that silver fan shroud works on that GPU, but can you just remove the silver piece on the GPU to give you more space? Just looks like its sticking up a bit too far. Happy holidays gents!
Could thermal tape be used as a separator, I wonder? Merry Christmas to you and your families.
Put a plastic card on the back of the capture card
GPU in 1st x16 slot
M.2 Card in 2nd x16 slot
Capture Card in 3rd x16 slot
Its the better way i think
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
I can't wait for part 2! It's fun watching you and Joe work together on a build.
I believe once you update the BIOS, you should be able to have the GPU in the top slot and the quad M.2 in the middle. Early BIOS only supported bifurcation on the top slot but according to Level1Techs, that was rectified in later BIOS releases.
NVMe RTX M.2 card !
Thanks for the heads up on this! I will check out the update
@@paulshardware No problem. They titled the full review of the board 'Overclocking Threadripper 7000 on the TRX50 Aero D'. He shows the options in the BIOS around 15:55 in the video.
Joe, thanks for being awesome to Paul and us! ❤ Well deserved
Since the case has plenty of room due to lack of radiators, I think it might be best to vertically mount the GPU in the front of the case and then use the bottom PCIe slot for the capture card. At least I think that's what I would try :)
Then you might want to switch to an air-cooled GPU as well.
Joe deserves every bit of this rig. Thanks for the great videos Joe! Este Vato!
It should allow him to get more done per hour. In fact... Upgrading your editor's rig could potentially give them fewer chances to chill while waiting for the system to complete a task
On ya Joe. You are the friend that everyone would be very lucky to have.
Regarding the PCIe slot clearance isues:
As already mentioned, option one would be to use Lian Li's upgright GPU kit to mount the card over the fan tray at the front.
This would also a) bypass the potential clearance issues with the tubes that you touched on, or b) use an aircooled GPU after all.
Alternatively you could consider swapping the SSD AIC to a card with its own PLX-Chip to do the bifurcation itself without the need for support on the motherboard side.
I think those can get pretty expensive and often only go to gen 3 speeds though...
Hard to build to 10K without going TR! Can't wait.
Gorgeous case, a beast of a build!
Put some capton tape on the 4090 where the capture card comes in contact with it and call it good, it’s durable, very resistant to heat and electrically insulating.
I was going to say the same thing, but I second this suggestion. You can buy capton is self adhesive tape or sheet form in various thincknesses/sizes and cut to size you would need for that 4k cap card.
For the pcie cards, i would replace the Aorus card with a HighPoint NVME RAID card. More expensive, but shows up as a single drive, uses all 16 lanes, and is even bootable. Then you could put the gpu in the top slot, NVME RAID in the second, and capture in the bottom with no issue.
Joe specifically wants individual drives and not raid.
Awesomesauce video as always guys. I was voting for one epic long video. But actually watching it in 2 parts, makes me appreciate the time it takes to build Joe's new editing rig. My concern so far is the airflow on the CPU cooler. The M.2 adapter card blocks almost half the suction fan. I imagine by now we would know if it has had any issue in cooling.
It's cool watching Joe put together his latest editing rig. And knowing how he separates the drives, like i try to do.
Caffeinator out!
Any comments or updates, after the angled adapter recall, regarding 4090s and the 12 VH power? Or does that just solidify your view of wanting to make sure you can go direct cable from PSU to GPU?
For the GPU, just use some Kapton Tape
Nice build!
I want your PC Joe. haha Honestly tho, I'd be fine with a 16 core CPU and 64GB of memory on the HEDT platform. It really sucks that even though AMD calls this platform HEDT - it's most definitely not HEDT and is Lite Workstation instead. Registered memory is not HEDT neither is spending more than $1200 for 12 core or $1500 for 16 core (with the motherboard and 64GB of memory).
My word Joe.. I said Paul was a cool boss but in the words of Michael Palin's prisoner in Life of Brian.. "you lucky, lucky b*****d". That's some serious Nvme-age, to say nothing of the remaining hardware. That said I know you'll use it well 😎👍🎉
For the capture card I'd go for an external solution but it's all academic as in 24 hours time we shall see what you opted for anyway, leaving my choice with a 50/50 shot of adoption.
I would just put a large thermal pad sheet between the 2 and call it a day. Great build so far.
Or a thin but firm plastic sheet to stop the risk of soldering points to go through the thermal pad and short out the Elgato board on the metal shroud of the GPU?
Kapton tape is made for this
I wouldn't put an Enermax PSU or a brand like Montech in a $10,000 build I would probably go with Seasonic as my first choice and at least 10 other brands before I went with Enermax lol. I also probably would have went with the 011 dynamic evo XL or Phanteks NV7 or like the H9 Flow for more radiator support lol. But that's the beautiful thing about hardware it's all subjective.
Hi Paul. That's one fantastic employee Christmas Bonus. Say, that desk pad looks similar to the one I found in my Christmas stocking. My wife needed to remember where she bought it.
19:55 LMAO HAhahahahahha freaking PAUL
first all dont use AIOs when you go for watercooling. Secondly never ever buy a cpu block with a pump inside. Pump should run seperatly. I have a system which runs since 2 years without problem and prior system did run 5 years before I exchanged it. Maintenance as with fan setups is important as well
I presume Joe's "memes" drive is also the location of his "homework folder." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
People ask me when I tell them about my HDD space. What do you need with 18 TB of space!? They just don't know.
32T WOW! This is a monster Build for editing! Cool build!
My dad's company is looking to upgrade their server for hardware simulation. He got a quote from Dell for a new one for 9k, but it has dual intel cpus both at 16 cores. I suggested he build one of these for half the cost, and he's told me (minus the gpu and crazy storage) to build this exact computer! Pretty cool opportunity.
Because this board has only three PCIe slots is wasted connectivity potential and a really bad joke.
Joe Dropping the Mf'er without a second thought: Thumbs up.
$2k graphics card. That costs more than my first used car did.😅
Joe, I would be very very very very very very mad if the corners don't match.
You didn't get a $5000 RTX 4090 Matrix card?
Ah yes, the infamous "Memes" drive...
Insane SSD space! I need that for a NAS haha
Insulation shielding sheet on the back of the capture card.
One idea I had about the capture card issue was one of those Z shaped x16 offset adapters. The bottom part plugs into the board slot moving the connecter down a slot on the case giving you space away from the GPU. Or get 2 90 degree adapters to make your own offset. Or a different mobo that works better with the parts you have lol
see if you can throw that gpu AIO onto the exhaust spot in the back
Heck with this computer build. We want to see Joe's deleted scenes!
you need the MEMS NVMe drive only
Lol...love you Joe!! Could you use a GPU Riser for that capture card, or am I being dumb?
Paul did a Frankenstein thing in part 2 for a fix
I'd just use electrical tape on the back of the capture card to prevent shorts. Alex did a similar fix for the PC vs Mac Pro video on the LTT Channel.
Kapton tape would be even better. It'll prevent shorts and it handles thermals better than electrical tape.
@@dividion8102 This. But electrical tape is cheaper 😂
@@ghostrideralex11 Yeah, it's cheaper. You can even get it at the Dollar Tree. But if you're building an $8,000+ system, I think you can splurge a couple extra dollars for Kapton tape. :D
joe mama
I'd go with the easy route with the capture card, just put some tape on it so the hardware on top can't shortfuse.
If you're using 128GB of RAM when editing isn't more better than faster? Genuine question, I've never got even close to the 32GB DDR4 in my system.
Warp stabilizer eats up ram when working with long clips, also rendering preview files can take up ram, software such as after effects uses ram to store temp files, and can add up quick.
I have been waiting for this build 🎉
I have a soundblaster z right below my msi geforce 970 with a normal cooler. Actually it is blocking one of the two fans on the gpu. I’ve had this configuration for like around six years, and everything has been fine. Don’t worry too much about the capture card, it will be fine, especially with the blower style cooler on the card!
if the 4090 was in the top slot and the thin other cards were in the bottom two it would fit just fine
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
Who the hell has $10,000 lying around for a PC? lol
What a beast of a machine, it’s going to stomp whatever task you throw at it! I definitely would have just removed the capture card & figure it out later! Congrats Joe!
I finished my 2nd PC build last January. I have $5,895.00 invested in this Intel system. Parts list: Segotep Pheonix T-1 E-ATX case; Seasonic Prime 80+ Platinum 1,300 watt PSU; Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master MB; Intel Raptor Lake Core i9-13900k CPU; Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX-3090 Xtreme GPU; 128 GIG kit of G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR-5 6400Mhz RAM; 3-Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 Nvme SSDs(1 for programs, 1 for files, 1 for system backup); Corsair H150i 360mm radiator AIO cooler; 3-Corsair ML-140 RGB Elite case fans; Acer Predator X38 38" curved monitor; Samsung SE-S184 external DVD burner; Logitech MK875 wireless keyboard and mouse; Windows 11Pro OS. At 66 years old, I am pretty proud of this build project. Can't really justify the money spent, but it sure was fun to build.
Just checked the BIOS setup guide for the motherboard. In page 14, it says that all 3 PCI-e slots have bifurcation options.
PCIEX16_1 Bifurcation
Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_1 slot is divided.
PCIEX16_2 Bifurcation
Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_2 slot is divided.
PCIEX16_3 Bifurcation
Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_3 slot is divided.
the build looks great, cograts joe
I had a bit of an issue in the Fractal Define 7 with the bottom slot where the modules would catch on the case when inserting (Giggidy) them into my X520 NIC, so I just used a riser cable and slotted it vertically and that resolved my problem. This solution for that Lian Li case would mean either getting a new case or dremel time.
I want Joe's job. At work, our IT department was really excited to upgrade our office pcs to 8g ram this year. 😢
Given that current gen Threadripper can support up to 1TB of RAM (or maybe more?), and up to a 96-core CPU, this system isn't even necessarily "high end", at least as far as workstations go. However, of course, in many ways, this definitely is a high-end system.
Oh this build is going to be painful. You want to AIR COOL a Threadripper? Whatever Joe's got you smoking, can I have some?
You worry about the mere possibility of a water cooling pump failing and maybe corrupting your host OS, but you're not at all worried about 32TB of flash storage?🤦♂
Just put insulating tape on the back of the capture card., and shift the mounting screws slightly.
I'd put the AIO toward the top, with another intake below, and an exhaust out the back.
'I don't care about a $10,000 pc' -- Me
"O? Joe's PC?"
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EDIT: Is there no way to vertically mount the GPU?
I have 2 partitions (one each on 2 separate STORAGE MEDIUMS) for just files, the rest of my storage is for games except boot drive which is almost entirely just except boot drive which is just OS and software that refuses any other drive. PS sorry for caps they were accidental
I would have forgone the bifurcation card, obtained 4x 8TB NvME Gen 4 drives and installed the 4090 in the top slot, giving plenty of access for the capture card in the bottom slot.
Look.... I got to build my first PC this year, and I made a monster. Honestly, I made the decision to go with a 4080 over a 4090 for electricity costs through the year, and thought that that was the only compromise that could've made the build better.
Boy, was I wrong.
Threadripper……. I’d like to see how Joe uses this PC that would require such power!
I would use a liquid cooler for the CPU, it should not fail unless you bought a crappy AIO or it was defective! You will want all the cooling you can get; and having a liquid cooler for the GPU but not the CPU is just odd. Since you are going big you should just build a liquid cooling PC
Seeing the 8 m.2 cards laid out side by side…I started to salivate. I must be sick.
If an extension cable can’t be fitted to mount the capture card…Looks like the GPU would fit in slot 1 with the expansion card in slot 2, which has a circuitry-protecting backplate (unlike the capture card). The fan on the GPU might not get good airflow tho.
Its OK you can afford to give Joe a $10,000 workstation. I have 12TB of Gen 4 and an 8TB SATA drive. I'll never fill it up.
Hey Paul, I was just showing my sister this build as I've just built my system in the white Vision case and it reminded me that my case did NOT have the two silicon covers included, for use when the motherboard is used in the lower position, looking around the internet, this seems to be a common 'oversight' of Lian Li's, perhaps you might be able to get some info/reason, from Lian Li, as to why so many people are reporting the same thing? As far as I know there is only one outlet for the Vision case here in the Uk, perhaps Lian Li could send a bag of these covers to them (OverclockersUK) so they might send them out to all who've bought one of these cases and tuck a pair in each Vision box for all future purchaser's.
Thanks for doing this video you two, building one right now in a ThermalTake CTE750, still waiting on some parts. will be watching Pt 2 after this
I'm in a similar position in terms of wanting a capture card, My mobo has 2x x16 slots and 1x x1 slot.
They are arranged
16
1
16
The 1 is too close to my GPU to be useful really so I had to plug my soundcard into the second 15 and currently Can't really think about a capture card in that x1 slot.
forgive me if this is a stupid question and follow up questions, but why not use an AIO for the CPU? Would an AIO not be more efficient? Or does the Threadripper not get warm enough to justify an extra radiator in the case? Or is the current CPU cooler just that efficient to not justify using an AIO?
You are correct, The allen wrench tip is a ball socket. Awesome P.C. :)
Every time I see someone installing a threadripper CPU I get flashbacks to derbauer dropping his into the socket. As to the capture card I'd just go external for simplicity's sake
Tell him to stop complaining about your unboxing practices and remove the unwanted audio with RTX Voice like the rest of us AV folk.
From what you are doing it Already shows the the Vision is not the case for top Exhaust and you need the Evo. LOL Paul's mod mat Add the 4k capture card and wedge a thermal pad between and add 2 fans to the bottom/ RGB.
Every time Joe says "it's in" I think of McLovin in Superbad 🤣... I'm 41 years old 😔
At 16:26 Paul says he does not know why the memory has a bump. Isn't that the DDR5 memory controller? I would have thought he would know that. Update as another commenter pointer out it is the Regret Clock Driver
What if AMD made a threadripper X3D….that would be legit
Also, I wonder if they plan to make an AIO for the threadripper
Riser cable and run a normal 4090 using the upright kit to the right of the board. No liquid and Problem solved.
The motherboard is rediculous, 3 pcie..., we shouldn't support companies that castrate the CPU
I figured he would raid 0 everything but the boot/program drive. Just so you have massive bandwidth for working with the files. I'm also surprised that the heatsink is so narrow.
Now wait just a minute. This video length didn't match the poll results 🤔
I altered the deal
@@paulshardware I'll pray that you do not alter it again
See if Lian Li has a side GPU mount for that case and use a PCIE Riser card for the graphic card or capture card. If that doesn't work, maybe teflon tape the back of that capture card to prevent any shorts.
The black Noctua fans can totally be RGB, just do one corner red, another green, and a third one blue. I guess the 4th can be white to make it RGBW.
10k build fail - actually did you expect anything less - i would lay case down to avoid sockets sag - you will figure out the capture issue - just get a usb capture - this machine will do well for years and you can always upgrade to 8tb nvme and 1tb ram when prices drop in 3-4 yrs to get another couple years out of it - should be a great long term build but waiting for zen5 is probably what most people will do - professionals will throw their money at the best gear - it is a no brainer and will save lots of time - you should have this in a series - parts 2/3/4. you all insisted on building with case standing up and made it tough on yourselves - a couple big spinning rust drives would have been nice - or 4 to back up all the nvme pls do benchmarks and compare to the old rig #unobtanium obtained
Now I have an inferiority complex, with my mere 6TB of 4th gen NVME drives 😭