A Quarter Deluded? | Chasing Down at 100mph!
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- I couldn't believe it when a viewer sent me this clip in complaining about the other drivers!
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I can’t believe these ‘cammers’ send these clips in and expect you to talk about the other drivers! 😮 Very poor driving by the cammer, irrespective of those cars emerging or the high speeds and driving too close. TO THE CAMMER - thx for sending them in. 👍🏻 Please learn from Ashley’s video’s. Even now at 52 I’m getting great info from these clips myself. I know all about ‘the red mist’ and such, but you have to fight it back down and let the adrenalin wear off, otherwise you’re heading for an accident and at those speeds, it won’t be pretty. 👍🏻
Top comment..... In my opinion 👏
@@TheDAMeaning I second that!
And potentially prison time. Just not worth it
Yep, totally agree, may be imagine it's a member of your own family in that other vehicle. try to protect, never punish.
Talk about the 'red mist'. I recall, nearly 50 years ago, driving in the evening traffic in the centre of Manchester. I was approaching a roundabout, following another car. As the other car arrived at the roundabout, it halted, when it had a reasonable chance to progress. I started ranting and raving, at how they could've gone, leaving me at the white line, instead of being one car back.
I suddenly realized my face was turning red, and I could feel the pressure building up.
It was then that I thought, 'what am I doing?', 'all that for the sake of a few feet'.
Did I feel embarrassed.
I used to be this kind of driver. Angry, delivering punishment and just plain out dangerous on the road. I am glad to be in the place I am now with my driving, and it's all thanks to your videos, Ash. Thanks for doing all this, I really appreciate it.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!!
I think I'm the same as you. Used to be like that, but something clicked and I've consciously changed my attitude. Found Ashley's channel a while ago and even though I've been driving 27 years, I'm learning still.
So much so I've taken the first steps along the IAM route 👍
Now that shows how valuable these videos are! EXCELLENT!
@daz374 My attitude also improved when I started to learn how to ride a motorcycle. the first time I had to get on a Autobahn/highway/carriageway in a naked bike with 0 wind protection had a huge impact for me. The sheer force applied to you is terrifying.
Agree. It reminds us of how awful many of us can be at times.
The clip with the emerging cars: the front car was nervous and waiting for the cammer to move into (the empty) lane 2, and got hesitant when they didn't. The range rover was stupid, but enticed by that empty lane 2. Had the cammer moved over to give space in lane 1, nothing of note would have happened (both cars would emerge in lane 1 without incident, and the cammer would have passed them and had space to get back into lane 1 before the junction). The whole situation was created by the cammer not responding to what was happening on the road.
Exactly, If the cammer had moved to lane 2, all that probably would never have happened. The cammer made the poor emerge by the Peugot and RR, 10 times worse and nearly caused an accident in the process! No anticipation of changing conditions or just being bloody minded to get a video posted ????
It should also be pointed out that neither of the emerging cars used the full length of the sliproad - they both entered directly on to the dual carriageway (2:22). Had they used the slip road correctly the situation would not have been as dramatic as the cammer would likely have passed before they joined the dual carriageway.
100% a non event becomes an event. I think the cammer needs to go on a visual awareness course because theirs is seriously lacking
@morty pen It is up to emerging cars to emerge safely. It is also up to everyone on the road to behave responsibly, and react to the road conditions to accommodate others and stop situations occurring.
The cammer had a route, and the space, to accommodate the emerging cars with no interruption to their own driving. The cammer did not take any of the options presented to them, and instead ignored the developing situation and made it much more dangerous.
The other clips demonstrate they have no consideration for others, and in that clip we see what multiple drivers who have no consideration will do to each other.
When it comes to "fault" (legal fault), you can be certain the cammer wouldn't have 0% fault from the footage they recorded. They wouldn't be held 100% responsible either, but would still share some blame.
I think the driver is quite inexperienced, isn't looking ahead and forward planning for what could happen but rather reacting only to what is directly in front of them.
Have I driven like this? Yes.
Do I drive like this now? No.
People do change.
Tailgating while driving at 100mph on a busy road is not a mistake it is intentional recklessness. Unless their attitude is fixed ‘mistakes’ will be common place
I am sure we missed the initial events which triggered that. The car in front changed 2 lanes to pass on the left before switching back into a space far too small to safely get into then almost immediately brake checked the cammer, then stayed in the right lane when the others were clear. They may have done 1 of those things unprompted but not all of them.
@@TheRip72 the Golf seems annoyed at the SUV at the start as they are initially ahead of the cammer, trying to squeeze through the gap and beat the SUV? Funny thing is their antics cause them to take another 40s to catch the SUV despite clocking 100 mph... Stupid all round really
@@TheRip72 irrelevant. Just rise above it and don't get pulled in to other peoples stupidity. Tailgating at 100mph is stupid. You can't see what is ahead, could be something on the road or a broken down vehicle and then you've caused a multi car pile up if you had to swerve or something.
I know that section of the M42 and, sadly, that happens more than it should. Probably the same on other motorways too.
@@MartinParnham I was just about to say the same thing. A common occurrence there.
I love when someone sends you a video expecting you to be on their side and you basically tear them a new one, it's comedy Gold.
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They're grrrrrrrreeeeat! 🐯
Why would someone send in a clip of them doing 100mph pointing the blame at other drivers, and a clip of them nearly causing a collision to make a point? Did they even watch the clips before they were sent in?
EGO
I think the driver would benefit in a shift in mindset from what appears to be a "Citizen on Patrol" mentality to a "Mr Fix-it" attitude. Instead of rushing headlong into situations caused by other's poor driving and issuing punishment aggressive driving and horn honking, taking the approach of anticipating, accommodating and resolving the issues caused by other's poor driving would be more productive, and far more rewarding. I imagine he'd also arrive at his destinations far less wound-up than he currently does.
Haven't I seen you in the comments on AA'S streams? It's weird to see you here, Mr McCarthy?
@@johnatherton71 I am everywhere and nowhere.
@@MrSonicAdvance so you’re a FED?
I read this in Ashley's voice
Agree with MrSA 100%; this is NOT a video about safe driving;
I find people are super aggressive on motorways. On a typical 3-4 hour journey, I will get tailgated about 5 times during that journey whilst making an overtake. Sometimes so much so my rear camera can’t see the front wheels of the tailgating car
That is terrifying. I have no idea how those drivers feel comfortable being that close to another car whilst going those speeds. Immortality complex, i think.
I oddly find driving in different areas has different types of poor drivers. When I go down south, the M25 has a particular habit of zero lane discipline. People just stay in whatever lane and don’t move. People undertake constantly. Really weird that it’s only the M25 I see this on as a constant. But yes everywhere else people will get up your arse if you are overtaking.
It's when you look at your speedo as you are being aggressively tailgated and it's reading 85mph because you've instinctively accelerated to try to get out of the way of some saddo with small man syndrome. You wonder just how fast you'd have to drive before they'd be satisfied to follow you from a safe distance.
It sounds like things are not much different there than here in one of the former colonies. What I can't stand about here is that people who don't speed tend to drive slower than the speed limit--significantly so--instead of maintaining the limit. So it always stresses me when I have to drive on the highway with somewhat busy traffic because it's either doing 80 or 90 km/h on a 110 limit or drive at 130 to 140 and still be tailgated.
Literally happened to me about 30 mins ago. Had my cruise control on doing 70 car was going slower and I overtook and the car behind me was ages a way, as I’m passing the car it’s almost like he’s sped up and was literally right up my arse.
If I had to break for whatever reason, he would have been straight into the back of me. Don’t understand it.
If you want to travel at those speeds fine but you’re only putting yourself in danger, slowing down to match my speed and not invade my space is probably going to knock off 5 seconds off your journey.
When I moved over when safe to do so, he sped away quite quickly, so didn’t save any time at all.
You've pretty much nailed it Ash. My own view is that people will do stupid things so its best to be prepared for them (and then maybe I can get away with something stupid if I do) . In the last clip I would say that the cammer was trying to prove he was the fastest thing on the road and the golf should have pulled over. In a similar situation I'd have let the golf get on with it - he's clearly an accident looking for somewhere to happen. Chasing him down is only asking to be part of that accident....and with the attitude of both drivers it would be hard to say it was genuinely an accident.
I'm with you there. Let someone like that get on with it recently then had to slam on the anchors a few miles up the A1 because they had punted another car up the arse at speed. If I'd behaved like the driver in the clip, I'd have been wearing my car as well.
Exactly my view, people are idiots, and I'm probably not excepted from that either, so be nice in the hopes that others will be nice to you when you do something clip-worthy. Many people who are quick to grill others generally don't accept that they could be in the wrong at least to some extent too...
"Yes, insurance hi! I've had an on-purpose!"
This is why we really ought to have refresher lessons and/or tests. Some drivers think they're the bees knees - but they are just a danger to us all, plain and simple 😱
It won't make any difference!
Bad drivers wouldn't bother,because they are superb drivers!
The Government hasn't got the resources to do it.
The problem is that he's never going to drive like that with an instructor or tester sat by his side. Lessons and tests aren't going to make any difference to him. Hopefully he'll take something from the criticism from this video and address his enormous attitude problem, but I'm not optimistic on that. There are some people who will never admit they are wrong and if this guy could watch his own clips and not see what he's doing I'm not sure he'll ever accept it unless he grows up a lot.
friend of a friend got redundoed and the only job he could get was driving a van for a car-parts company. firm said van had on-board recorder measuring harsh acceleration, braking, cornering etc and he needed to score 95% or above to keep the job. no problem cos malky is a seriously good driver, he's 'ace' apparently. halfway thru the first week, boss calls him in cos computer scores him at 32%. it's often surprising how complacent we all are about driving............... but this guy really took the biscuit .
Some new drivers are just as bad, I was speaking to a 19 y o and they were adamant they "could drive" and were confident in saying how often they would do 100mph on country roads. When I explained the cars sensors are doing most of the work for them they just looked confused. There definitely needs to be more education or a complete overhaul on the driving test altogether. Passing your test and being a good driver are two very different things.
all relevent points but most people that act like this pass their test and start acting like this soon as they are in there own car not 5-10 years down the line ... i dont know how you could adjust tests to weed out people with road rage that act rather than just get pee`d off or completely prevent it you would have to force black box`s to be in cars (used in aircraft records litteraly everything)..... not gonna lie though it does make my day when i get some nut job blowing their lid because they are stuck behind me doing the speed limit, with the confidence to drive less than 3 foot behind me but somehow dont have the confidence to just overtake me.. and even more so when a fast road with 2 or more lanes is coming up... i wait for them to start their rage pass staying in a low gear, let them get along side me to give me their best war face, match their speed so they go full throttle if they havent already becuase they are seriously determind to overtake nothing is more important to them at this point... then 100% max volume the superman theme tune watch their face change from pure rage to what the actual f#@* then go full throttle full send upto 60-70 whatever it is gapping them to the moon and back then just cruise at the speed limit half of drivers i do this too calm down and suddenly start driving responsably the other half pass me about 5 min later doing like 5-10 over the limit but its weird they suddenly learn to keep their eyes on the road and not try there best to eyeball me passing by........ i dont need anyone to tell me this is not the right thing to do btw im not saying its right im saying its hilarious
I came to Ashley's channel via some of those "Bad Driving" channels. You know, dashcam compilations which are mostly cammers getting annoyed with other drivers who "get in the way". This video is a classic example of the content found on them.
I've started to refer to them as Horatio videos - they're full of hornblowers. People who mysteriously have the time to hold their hand on the horn but not the time to study the road ahead and adjust their speed accordingly.
I'm at loss for words... Was he actually expecting you to pet his head for driving 100 mph, two car lengths away from the car in front?
For him it was just one car-length. Audi and such.
That's the scariest bit. The red mist might've come down, but he must've have had hours or days, as well as the video to reappraise the folly of his speeding.
Does he get cammer trolls on this channel?
@@DMC888 i don't think he is a troll. He genuinely thinks he's in the right. That's what it looks like.
Your videos have helped me a good deal. I wouldn't have said I was a bad driver, my anticipation and awareness of surroundings and possible dangers has always been spot on. Improving after 12+ yrs of driving. However, I did find myself becoming more and more enraged/agitated by stupid mistakes people make. The anticipation I have helps in that I always expect drivers to do silly things so I can proactively adjust to a situation. Your videos have helped me in that I don't seem to become as angry now, if a situation occurs, I can see it, deal with it and let it go. Beforehand, it may cloud judgement for a few moments afterwards. Thanks Ash!
I have also made the mistake of telling drivers off for causing me inconvenience, however I have learnt that this only makes things worse. In my opinion it's better to see the problem and reduce the danger.
_There's definitely a mentality that having a dash camera gives you sometimes in looking to record someone else with indignation. It is something I hopefully have been moving away from in my own driving, especially since passing my C1 and reevaluting some of those bad habits we develop over time._
It wasn't mentioned but I can't believe how quickly the cammer swerved right back in front of that slow emerger either.
I think we could call that the "I'll show you" manoeuvre. Aggressive movement like that, being used to emphasize how much the nut behind the camera was inconvenienced by the nuts in the other two cars - It's also the kind of stupidity that can get people killed.
I'm no expert driver, but I was once given the opportunity to drive a car (my own, Ford XR4i) at speed (reached 132mph). Things start to get a bit hairy above 100mph, let alone 132, but even at 80mph among dense, slower traffic, it gets dodgy.
Hubris is a very dangerous human trait.
Definitely an intentional close pass too, he nearly split between the Peugeot and Range Rover in an effort to show off.
He calmed down enough to let the RR back into the left lane though. He generally seemed to have very poor hazard perception. Seeing that those cars were going to emerge he should have eased off to allow more time to react to whatever happens.
Not slowing and passing very close seem like choices here. It reeks of “I’ve done nothing wrong so I’ll continue” - actually making a bad situation far worse.
Kudos for the end comment about not being too hard on the viewer who sent the footage and saying we should learn from mistakes.
Everyone could improve their driving, just maybe some more than others, or different aspects.
A second observation.....I have an issue with how @Ashley Neal describes how to deal with joining dual carriageways/motorways, and using the acceleration lanes. There is a presumption, amongst driver educators, etc, that we are all driving fairly modern vehicles capable of reasonable performance in today's traffic conditions. Yet, that is often far from the case. There is little in what is advised, [nothing personal] that takes ALL vehicle types [and performances] into account. A car is a car, regardless of whether it's a Lexus or a Series Landrover. We're so in lurve with zooming about at incredibly high speeds [regardless of what we think our abilities are in being able to cope with those speeds?], that any poor sod driving a vehicle which does not possess the performance capabilities of a Tesla, should not be on the roads at all, in our view.
They become the ''dangerous'' one!
When really, it is our lurve of the zoomy speed that is the danger!
Try accelerating {?} up to 50 or 60 mph on a slip road in a Mark 1 Ford Transit Luton diesel, for example? Proper old-school drivers will know what I mean. Yet, such a vehicle, or vehicles with similar performance, are still fully entitled to use our public highways, and are fully entitled to an understanding of a lack of performance on the road, by our educators. [I used to be one as well!].
Where is the tolerance in procedures?
Our driver education will, if not careful, be relegated down to meet the needs of the lowest common denominator. The viewer who made these clips, for example?
When joining a motorway [especially with my old LGV instructor's hat on].....it is better to slow a bit and fit in behind, than to try to accelerate, where the physical performance may be doubtful in the least. In other words, rather than joining as ''fast'' as possible , we need to focus on getting folk to slow a bit if necessary....if you see the gist I'm getting at?
Speed limits are there to allow every road user [not every driver!]...to cope with every other road user. That first clip is a prime example of why a lower speed limit might be imposed....?
Simply to help everybody cope with everybody else.
Finally, can we cease using the term 'reaction' to dealing with hazards on the roads? I always maintained that, if we have to ''react'' to something, we are already too late in dealing with it.
It, [whatever the problem was?] has taken us by surprise!
I preferred to use the word ''respond' when looking at ''dealing with hazards....''
As an example, I am now over 70 years of age. my reaction times would be double or treble those of a 30 year old driver. Yet, I haven't had 'issues'' out on the roads for many a decade, if at all.
I'm not a 'slow' driver....although I don't mind driving steadily, with perhaps less 'speed' than a youngster?
I prefer to 'travel hopefully'', than to merely ''arrive''....
My driving standards are, well, let's say, as we all should, ''so far so good?''
All drivers, no matter how skilled, are only as 'good' as their next drive out.
I used to undergo regular driver assessments from the DSA [as was]....in a vehicle type of their choice, not mine [so could have been a car, or an artic, or a bus] as part of my job...as doubtless Ashley Neal does. I could probably still match my normal 'score', still, despite being retired from all that guff. But these days I have 'better' things to do.
So how come I haven't had to brake ''hard'' in years? [As a one-time bus driver, in 25 years I never ever 'threw' a passenger. Yet dealt with, comfortably', all the folk who used to 'run out in front if me'' as so many drivers describe when they have had to try to stop quicker than normal? ]
Something is wrong with our driving, if we have to 'react', rather than merely, 'respond.' MAybe not all the time....but we all have lapses which mean we miss the odd little 'voice in our ear' that, on another day, might have had us coming off the gas sooner, instead of blithely ploughing onwards.
Too many drivers roundly blame the other fella's mistakes, for creating the situation...
Rather than looking at our own lapses, which meant we failed to cope comfortably, with what the other fella did.
Road-rage, is a classic symptom of being ''unable to cope''....
Totally agree with everything you say!
The best way to drive well is to drive a very slow car.
A 1975 Hillman Imp with 39bhp is so slow that on a motorway or A road you had to look along way a head and plan everything!
35years later now drive a car with over 300 bhp.
The Imp taught me alot.
I was a driving instructor then!
I very much doubt your reactions are much slower than a 30 year old.
As you know full well,a good driver never relies on their reactions!
I have 42 years on the road and have been taught by and observed professional drivers,I could write a book on it! I'm still learning.
Yes, regarding slip roads, I think space in front and behind is very important (perhaps more so than speed). As you say, some slip roads are very short, on a bend, up an incline or the vehicle just cannot reach the speed of other vehicles on the main road. also there will also be instances when it is just not possible to emerge safely at the acquired speed due to the density of traffic in lane one, in all of these instances space becomes very important so that we can change our plan and manage the situation in the safest way.
You are right: it's good to learn in lower powered cars. My first car was an 850cc 36 bhp Renault 5 basic three door. 0-60 in a heady 21 seconds. Overtaking manoeuvres were planned 2 miles in advance.
Driving a slower car has its challenges but the lessons I learned still stand me in good stead now, while piloting a car with more than ten times the bhp.
@@R04drunner1 That's nothing. Getting from 0-60 took me six decades.😁
I smiled when I read you mentioned series landrover. I’ve just come back Hereford in mine, 200 miles trip towing my new( old) bike in my trailer. Did the journey over the previous day and stayed the night. When ash was talking about slip road speeds I was thinking back to the previous day and the comments you put. I came back via Severn bridge and did 25 miles over the bridge and stayed M4 to jnc 17. 53 was my speed as it was pretty windy and I was in tune with how the whole lot felt. Seen too many TH-cam caravan roll overs to be complacent. Fortunately traffic was light and merging never a problem, the best you can do when you’re slower is read the road far ahead keep your distance ( not that hard!) and indicate in good time and don’t rush anything. Much more comfortable on the old single carriage A roads built for the speeds the rover is capable of. 1946 Harley in a 1950s trailer pulled by a 1961 109 with a 1980s Disco tdi engine.
Made it home in one piece!
For me the speeding wasn't the biggest issue, it was the way they were driving. Very aggressive, not enough separation distance, no forward planning etc. I don't understand why people get so angry on the roads
Seams to be when thier skill doesn't match their ego
It’s a vicious circle. The closer and faster one drives, the easier one loses their patience and the more extreme measures are needed to prevent accidents.
To calm one’s tits by backing off is all what’s needed. Somehow ‘hurried’ people don’t get that.
@@ts757arse Attitude is everything.
Speed doesn't kill,bad driving does.
Speed is tool,it can be used or abused!
Stress does funny things to people's brains. The irony is it's very easy to avoid. I mean, what is 10 or 30 seconds or a minute extra on a journey anyway?
@@nearlyretired7005 Speed doesn't kill, it's the sudden deceleration at the end.
I used to be a Postman delivering in the city centre, I was on a schedule and I rarely considered the other road user "It's ok, they have brakes" was the attitude. Since getting all the training to be a driving instructor I enjoy my driving far more, able to read the road far better, reacting far sooner and able to see the "Muppet" doing his thing long before he realises he being a thing!
Spot on as always Ashley, both in your comments on the driving and the lessons we all need to take from it for our own driving. Keep up the good work!
i lived by the retail park, l'spa roundabout and it's pretty common to be in the middle lane ready for the next roundabout such is the nature of the lanes. i've found it far safer to be in the lane at that roundabout than to switch across at the next roundabout as there's not much room to move over if there are more cars on the road. apart from that - amazing people think it's ok to send vids in like this and expect support and backing when there's clear evidence of dangerous driving. I think you should start doing some 'deluded' merch as well haha
Bet he's glad now he sent the clips in or was it just a " look at me" ego trip anyway.
Recent long motorway car journey I noted I wasn't let out from lane 1 to lane 2 when approaching a slower moving vehicle indicating in plenty of time even though the car in lane 2 had lane 3 empty and could move over. This happened at least a dozen times . ( in all cases the car was a nearly new plate SUV as I started taking note ) . In my HGV they always move over . In conclusion Ashley . Size matters.
I used to flit between driving a transit sized van and a 7.5t lorry back before you needed a blue card to drive anything that needed a tacho and used to notice the same thing. It's probably down to a sense of self preservation when you're driving something larger.
Used to tow a caravan. On motorways it was common to be blocked from overtaking slower vehicles. Check mirrors, see there’s a good gap, start indicating and the (usually BM or Merc) car in the middle lane closes up to sit on your rear offside.
One of my all time motorway hates, that, cars not moving over to allow you to overtake slower vehicles when lane 3 is clear.
I'd say size and power matter. At one point I had 4 different cars on my drive; a BMW 650 cab, Porsche Cayenne S, a Toyota Lucida people carrier and a Smart car. I used to drive all four vehicles. Whilst travelling on the same roads at the same speeds (At the speed limit) I noticed daily that people would tailgate and overtake me in the Lucida or Smart car, but never in the other two vehicles. This made no sense to me as I was travelling at the exact same speed.
People would see the Smart car coming and pull out right in front of it, like 750kg of metal travelling at 30mph is not going to dent their car.
Sure, they didn't do a good job at pulling out, but hazard perception is an important skill too many people overlook.
@Non-Stick Pan I mean if they were paying attention I think they would have thought to start taking action on the situation sooner.
@@DefaultMale_ This is an ego and as Ash’ said a “telling off”. Anyone who actually is a human being and not a PoS would have driven as you said however this driver is clearly a PoS and the evidence is crystal clear
@daz374 Fair enough.
@Advanced Driving I 100% agree
@daz374 Agreed. There’s no way he hasn’t seen those vehicles emerging and has an absolute age to move into the right hand lane so it’s difficult to come to any other conclusion.
A "mistake" is when you do something that isn't correct, but you believe it to be correct. This driver was not making mistakes.
True, this was more just being reckless. But I think we’ve all been a bit too reckless than we’d have liked before
"dangerous driving" on the other hand, is when you see there is a risk and go on to take it.
this is the worst type of person. they are so self centered they can't imagine themselve being the problem, they always find something or someone else to blame for their poor behaviour. sad, really sad
100% agree. A lot of people like that about.
"Everyone's wrong except me". It's probably you, cammer.
@@robshorts a lot seem to work in middle management where they can boss youngsters about.
Hi Ashley, thank you for showing this.
In my youth I was a terrible driver, [impatient, aggressive, easily triggered] with age comes maturity so now hopefully a lot better, but occasionally there is temptation to go back into old bad habits.
Years ago on a company driving assessment by a retired police officer I was encouraged to give an ongoing dialogue while I was driving about what I was observing and what I was doing to to ensure everything was going to be safe. Similar to what you do in these videos. [I found this unbelievably difficult]
So several years on I try to do this on occasion during my normal day, and if I find myself becoming impatient or triggered doing this instantly draws my attention to my personal attitude and performance.
When you give a personal monologue describing what you are doing and why, it is one hell of a wake up call to any defects in your driving style.
That's why the Institute of Advanced Motorists recommends a narrated section for the test. (Or they used to....)
This is something we did whilst I was learning to drive a bus. I still do it sometimes on the road now, amazing how much you do without thinking about it when you say it outloud.
I was the same Rob G; then my kids gave me a telling off and I changed to anticipating, slowing for a hazard, not honking and racing past it, keeping to the speed limits (even London's 20 mph ones), and doing my best to chill out when others are idiots. Michael
Hi Ashley and couldn't agree more about the necessity for self reflection and looking to your own style and behaviours before criticising others.
Lots of things we can and should do differently and these clips just demonstrate some of the ways that accidents do and will happen.
We all make mistakes but can we learn from them?
Thanks for the advice, its all really appreciatted.
Hi Chris, nice to have your input in the comments! Love your channel btw!! Keep safe.
From so many advise, this one is also noted and will change the behaviour on roads . Many thanks Neal.
Hi Ashley, I'm a new viewer to your channel. It never fails to amaze me how stubborn some people are and their inability to read what's happening in the road. I find the videos sharing the experiences of the learner drivers enlightening. I'd like to call the videos entertaining, but more often they are alarming. Your calm attitude and considered commentary are spot on. Thank you for taking the time to share.
This is what happens when you forget there are people in the cars. I personally enjoy predicting how people will mess up and then fixing it and it’s nice to get the occasional thank you wave.
Although there are still times where you can’t fix stupid.
TOTALLY with you, on that point boss. i love it when i help someone out before they even messed up! proper makes me laugh, too - when they don't even realise their error. i think it comes from riding motorcycles - you have to realise that they're all out to get you.!!
@@raymondo162 I ride aswell, it’s definitely a skill you pick up quickly when you literally have nothing but what you’re wearing to keep you safe.
You expect to see bad drivers, and you expect to see aggressive drivers, but the puzzling thing is how they can think they are actually good drivers. I imagine they equate driving confidence with how good a driver they are
same as you Ash whenever I'm see other channels that share their dash cam vids i always notice the dashcam drivers mistakes too or at least ways they could have avoided some instances and there's always going to be bad drivers or at least mistakes made we're all human after all but we should do as much as we can to protect ourselves
Jaw dropped and speechless on that last clip! Wow that's beyond recklessness
Any time I see a vehicle waiting to enter a dual carriageway from a side road on the left, if safe to do so (after all round observation), I will change to lane 2 to allow that vehicle to emerge onto lane 1 and to give me an extra lane margin of safety if they were to emerge suddenly when I am close by. More often than not, the emerging driver picks up on this and does indeed emerge. Of course, if I have cars following me in Lane 1, it depends on them moving to lane 2 also but often they take the hint from my own move to lane 2 and do the same.
I find this is a very key consideration on fast dual carriageways where the limit is anywhere between 50-70mph. Especially since so many side roads onto fast dual carriageways have either no acceleration lane at all or just a very short one. It can really make life a lot easier and safer for the emerger. This is one major difference and extra consideration with dual carriageways versus motorways, even though the speed limit may be 70mph in both cases. They are very definitely not the same type of road.
For me, it’s the biggest omission from the Highway Code. According to the Highway Code the cammer handled it pretty well! There is nothing in there at all about accommodating joining traffic or even being prepared to watch out for joining traffic on dual carriageways or motorways in a Highway Code that warns about some tiny details in other places. So you could argue that doing nothing until the last minute was the correct option according to its writers!
Morning Ib. FWIW I agree with you, and do the same. But it has to be said that this simple act of consideration seems to create the mindset in some that "you have to move over to let me on". So they keep coming even when the cars on the carriageway actually can't move over.
@@cargy930 Hello there. Yes you are right that it can result in that expectation. It's a bit like where someone waiting to come out of a side road in heavy traffic EXPECTS the main road traffic to give up priority and let them out no matter what. Of course, I will do so if I can do so safely and when it actually make sense. But not just because the other driver expects it in order to make them feel not "left out".
I must admit to having to look up FWIW: For What It's Worth!
Excellent comment, I do the same. Check mirror and blind spot to ensure lane 2 is free (especially that there is not a fast moving Ashley Cammer doing the ton on approach), then indicate right and pull over onto lane 2. Easy to do, minimum inconvenience, makes yourself more visible to emerging driver (lateral movement plus flashing indicator), helps traffic flow and improves safety. Usually gets a thank you wave from the emerging driver.
It depends what's going on on the road, you may move to lane 2 but the car behind unseen to the emerger might not, in this case there's a roundabout not far up, he may have wanted to be in lane 1 for that
Some people think they're a great driver if they give way correctly and always pick the correct lane, yet quite happy breaking the speed limit.
The definition of a great driver is someone who can anticipate and accommodate the mistakes of others, whilst doing their best to follow all the rules themselves.
Excellent post I think you're spot on. Just because someone fails to give way when they should doesn't mean you don't need to be alert and anticipate hazards. Hazards and poor emerging is just part of driving and we all experience it.
I have to thank you a lot! I really feel like you delivering a very impressive content with this clips . It should be shared and viewed more often .
I use to overact situations sometimes make my day go worst . Only 5 years behind the wheel without points , and 10k km /yearly on the road bike it was the best suggestion from TH-cam to pop your clips up out of nowhere.
Really appreciate your patience calmness and expertise!
All the best for you !
I always enjoy your videos, Ashley. Whilst I generally think I'm a good driver (don't we all), I often pick up bits and pieces in your advice, and I've become a calmer driver. I think about my own driving more, and no longer get triggered so much! You're the Yoda of the roads! Thanks you.
Why so you think you are a good driver?
How much extra training have you had,and which textbooks have you read?
@@nearlyretired7005 I think you misunderstand my comment. It was just a general comment and actually self-critical and how I learn more from Ashley. I'm lost that you seem to think I'm somehow bragging. Quite the opposite.
The camera has fallen into the trap of "I have a dash cam therefore I have a right to record other peoples poor driving without recognising my own poor driving". He needs to watch your videos and start taking what you say to heart before he has a serious accident.
dashcam mentalist indeed
It's not because he has a dashcam It's because he has right of way at any cost. Even though the cammer had right of way it was still poor anticipation by the cammer and sounding your horn aggressively could land you a £30 FPN. The cammer should've been prepared to switch lanes or ease off the accelerater even though it was his priority. Just because it's your priority doesn't mean it's your priority at any cost and you still need to be aware and prepared.
I wish I could have watched these videos when I was a lot younger. Red mist decended far too often and I will admit some of my driving WAS reckless.
I am using these videos to improve my driving, and as you put it "there's no try again" - keep a cool head, it isn't a game!
Watching you has helped me improve my driving I always hear your vioce telling my to think ahead and be more mindful
This channel has contributed to me becoming a better driver. Keep up the good work.
Took him 4-5secs to react to a car pulling out 🤦♂️ edit: Do the Police ever contact you asking for the senders details with the view to prosecute them? That last one was nuts.
yip PURE dangerous
I doubt the police would. They don't know where it is, where it happened or what cars were involved so these clips are of limited help. When you submit a clip to the police they make you fill in a 5 page form full of information.
"I have a cam, therefore am never in the wrong" a common thought process.
In the first, 52 is not unreasonably slow for a slip road speed, with that being the limit set on many heavies I find 50-60 being an ideal starting point for a motorway merge. Straight into lane 2 as a single maneuver is not usually a smart idea, luckily the road was quiet. Given the near-total absence of traffic on the roads, even if turning right at the second roundabout, there is plenty time to use lane 1 and move across for the second.
If nothing else, clip 2 demonstrates one of many reasons I maintain that most dual carriageways we have all driven on for decades are far more dangerous than the smart motorways that get everyone all upset. As for the cammer, is it just me or does that look like an Audi bonnet? That might help explain some things :) I personally would have been over into lane 2 as soon as I saw traffic at the junction. Not just the risk factor, but consideration, giving people the opportunity to pull out cleanly, unhurriedly, and safely. I agree that maintaining speed and lane likely encouraged the range rover driver.
What does it say about a person that they will so eagerly submit a clip that clearly shows their substantially excessive speed, never mind all the other poor driving skills. Even if new to this channel, a read of the comments on almost any similar channel will see cammers being shredded for their own failures by many people.
Driving at such an excessive speed, at such a close distance in such a mindset goes far past "making a mistake", and it seems that it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that these have ceased being mistakes, and become normal, habit. To return to my very first line on this comment, in the event of an incident, that camera is evidence of guilt or innocence regardless of who owns it. It can as easily demonstrate your liability as much as it can anyone else's.
Probably the most informative video I've seen this year!
I love the way you mention in the end that we all make mistakes and this channel is all about education. It's all about supporting others than putting them down.🙂
I know all of these roads as this is on my commute. I'm sure I've been tailgated, cut up, and passed at speed by this driver.
*goes through his dashcam clips*
That was an excellent summation at the end Ash. Great emotions mixed in with common sense advice to finish off. It actually made me think of the endings of Dixon of Dock Green with Jack Warner.
Yes, you've had quite a few other "deluded" viewers send in their clips and incredibly, fully expecting you to side with them. The most memorable for me was the apparent IAM Roadsmart member who was also an observer! I believe the IAM got wind of the video and had a few choice words to say. I can't recall, but did that viewer later send in some better clips where he demonstrated great reform or was that another deluded viewer?
It was Will 2nd deluded driver video that changed his driving after featuring. 👍
@@Jonc25 Ah OK, Thank You Jon. Perhaps also he saw your excellent submissions on how to do it properly and that "drove" Will to change.
@@ibs5080 Its the channel that changes attitudes, I'm just a tiny cog, one of many.👍
@@Jonc25 That almost sounds like the slogan for a certain former drinks commercial: "Ashley Neal, the channel that changes attitudes other channels can't reach".
@@ibs5080 Good one.
Another good educational video watching your video's has made my look at my own driving and make changes thank you Ash
I use my dash cams daily to go over how I drove. I learn a lot and sometimes it is confronting. Great to see these types of driving tips. Liked and subscribed
You have been weighed
You have been measured
And you have most certainly been found wanting.
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Nice one ash, good job mate.
We regularly drive now asking WWAD
it's called a LAANCE!
@@RichO1701e 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why do people keep sending in their own L’s lol. Shows how crazy deluded they are that they don’t even consider themselves an issue. My god, rather than simply slowing down he weaved between 2 tight cars. That’s insane.
I'm glad they do. There is always a chance that Ash's analysis and explanation will get them to see how they can be better drivers. I know there has been at least one driver who has changed their attitude after Ash featured their clips on his channel.
Some drivers are defo deluded about being what a good driver actually means. No it's not being able get in front of a car dong the speed limit, cutting in front of traffic/lane hopping, speeding round a blind corner, getting to your destination a whole minute quicker by breaking the speed limits, tail gating, etc. A lot of them have been lucky in the fact that they have got away and are still getting away with poor driving. Still think we need more traffic police, defo been a reduction in the last years it's not jus prosecution but also educating.
Thanks Ash, I love these analysis videos. I drive (and ride) with camera's, but I have only ever once seen anything worth recording & uploading. 99.9% of the time, my experience on the roads is utterly boring. The one exception, was the day I witnessed an intoxicated driver in front of me have a head on argument with a landrover, and thankfully, that doesn't happen every day!
Very good presentation, we all make mistakes while driving, especially if in unfamiliar locations. Your videos are a reminder to us all to stay focused, and stay calm.
Crazy to think we have drivers out there like this that think they are actually good drivers! Shocking really how deluded some people are.
The driver who sent in those videos is a danger, he could end up on the wrong end of some road rage or cause a serious accident himself.
I could imagine being caught up with at traffic lights and someone pulling him out of his car to give him a kicking.
In the third clip the cammer's speed is better, yes, but still marginally over the limit: that stretch of A491 is one of those rare dual carriageways limited to 60mph, no doubt because of its many junctions with minor roads and turns across the central reservation. One thing for the cammer to look at here is how their own maintenance of full speed and lane one position escalated two poor emerges into a dangerous near miss. And conversely, how easily they could have defused it, by moving out or easing off the accelerator.
I never drove or honked for punishment but I had plenty of moments of resentful shouty fury in cars. My own progress to a more peaceful and interesting life on the roads started with noticing the absurdity of blaming other road users for the pressure I had usually put on myself, by not allowing enough time for my journeys.
Dear cammer, I hope you're following. Thank you for sharing your clips. Your life is precious - cherish and enjoy it.
Another content on TH-cam… which shows the roads in true light, you are right Ashley, everyone makes mistakes, I haven’t had a accident or received any points, but I openly admit to “ moments of madness” . Even then I tell myself to calm down and THINK !!!!
The mind boggles, but unfortunately all of these clips are filmed near where I lived / live - Bromsgrove and Leamington... and unfortunately I have encountered all of these exact same aggressive, thoughtless, selfish actions in person on multiple occasions. I really hope the driver sees this analysis and calms down his actions. Nearly all of us make mistakes whilst driving, not too many of us get to look back and see what we can do to improve. I hope the driver takes heed and relaxes (a lot).
It’s a shame there’s no reg plate on the dash cam because that last clip would’ve been reported to the police immediately
That very first bit of the Highway Code general rules (that most people don't read!) applies here: "The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you SHOULD give way to others. ALWAYS give way if it can help to avoid an incident."
Definitely someone who has over-estimated their driving ability!
I asked one of my local police to clarify the rules for me and he told me that in my state the law specifically does not give people permission to ram another driver because they did not follow every letter of the law.
Very good and makes a nice change. I see so many clips where the driver seems to notice someone else up ahead about to pull out and so accelerates towards them, without slowing down at all themselves. If you're a good driver, you can anticipate to some extent when someone is about to pull out in front of you - you don't just carry on regardless, or even worse, accelerate!
Is he joking? Surely he can’t genuinely think him sending you a clip of him nearing hitting 100mph is a wise idea 😂😂😂
It's really mind blowing that someone would send this in. IMO, just from that video, he deserves 2 charges of inappropriate use of the horn, 2 of driving without due care and attention, 2 of speeding and 1 of dangerous driving. It should add up to at least £1000 fine and a 12 month ban, preferably much longer...
Fair play this is great education. More drivers need to see videos like this
Good work, Ashley!!
The mindset of some commentors here, particularly regarding the third clip, is frighteningly similar to that of the cammer. A very black and white view of who is right and who is wrong, when the reality is that most situations are grey. All drivers have a responsibility to reduce risk by dynamically reacting to their surroundings. This is especially the case when other road users have made a bad decision. I don’t know why this is so hard to grasp.
You might've missed or maybe just not mentioned it Ash, but at 2:22, it REALLY looks like he angled his car to try and slip between the space between the 2 cars at 60mph as a sort of "Look what you've made me have to do to avoid you!" No doubt he was aiming for that gap and then settled on the swerve after he realised it was too small.
terrible driver.
maybe he's also a biker and forgot her was in a car? 😆
I know sometimes, it's crossed my mind to start filtering through STATIONARY cars before realising I'm in the car! 😂
@@RichO1701e SNAP
I really like this format. I hope people don't stop sending in these clips and keep on making fools of themselves. Maybe it helps for some of them to think about it.
informative video, it makes alot of good points, learn to be better drivers, dont be complacent, you can always learn something everyday!
This is the same with 50% of dashcam clips sent into "worst UK drivers" type of TH-cam channels. Cam Drivers are not technically in the wrong, but often don't help the situation, make it worse, and never attempt to correct others mistakes - often a big horn and drama created to get a TH-cam clip posted.
It was brave of them to send the clips in. As they show a pattern of driving behaviour . We all get things wrong, but when it happens regularly it’s time to change. Driving into danger was for me the underlying fault.
Bravery and stupidity are easily conflated
I like your videos because you cover the topic that in the olden days was called roadcraft and sad to see it has no place today. It is in fact very important and requires 110% concentration every second a person is behind the wheel of a moving vehicle.
Observation and hazard management. Is all the years of training drivers to advanced standard these two things I pushed so hard if you master these two and keep with it you will be safer. Thanks for the video James
If anyone with any influence in DVLA is watching, get this guys license revoked until he attends speed awareness courses. This guy is gonna kill someone due to his speed and then blame the person he killed for the crash
The problem here is the speed of the dash cam is the real speed! The speed displayed on his speedo would have been 107mph!!
More like 101...
My driving is improving tremendously after watching your videos, 7000 kms away.
It really is mental what some antics motorists commit. Deliberately making an issue by not slowing down (the range rover clip) and allowing judgment and benefit of the doubt go out the window. Also the continuing blasting of the horn shows how aggressive the cammer is. He / she needs educating and hopefully got it by Ashley! Nice one Ashley!
I think it is about time we changed the noise a car horn makes to something so embarrassingly silly drivers would do anything to avoid using it, like anticipate other road users mistakes and slow down to avoid making things worse.
I like the idea. Make it sound like a classic clown car horn, I reckon, or even better, one of Kenneth Williams' "oooh matron" jobs.
If he'd come off the gas when he saw the dodgy emerge beginning, the situation would have likely resolved itself by the time he got there.
Good commentary - Impressed that you judge everybody as fairly as see it, even if they are submitting videos assuming (you would guess) that you will side with their driving 'style'.
For me the clip with the Range Rover was the most alarming.... if the lane 1 car had just tipped their brakes a little I wonder if the camera car would have avoided clipping the car. Feels like the arrogance of "I'm in the right and therefore I don't to slow down, instead scare them to death being a few inches away from them".
Two experiences come to mind - many years ago I was put on a 'drive a survive' course - sponsored by BT as a number of company car drivers had had serious crashes the previous year. The instructure (ex Police Royal Protection) said to me, the way you are driving will significantly increase the chance of being rear ended. I said, but that will not be my fault. She said, granted but does that help when you are in hospital?....I never forgot the lessons I learnt him her.
The other was me driving a white 4x4 late at night in a village with a 20mph speed limit. As I approach the village pub, doing less than 20 thankfully), A small car pulled out on me. How I avoided them was a surprise but I did. I immediately saw red, lit up their car with my main beam, sat on the horn, pulled around them (I was half in the road avoiding them anyway) and brought the car to a halt. Before I got out I looked in my rear view mirror, (brake on so they were lit up) - All i could see was a couple, in their 80s, perhaps older, both looked frozen in shock and fear.
I felt shame... I closed the door and gently pulled away. My reaction still disturbs me. Yes the driver could have caused an accident and yes perhaps they were over the limit but I bet they didn't pull out on me deliberately. I felt shame for scaring them but I still wrestle with the right approach... What if the driver was obviously not fit to drive and they went on to crash into somebody else, taking theirs and ather lives. what if, what if.... I know one thing for sure - being calm throughout would have been a better start to the incident.
The Range Rover clip was near Hagley, Hagley has a very large population of self-important "luxury" vehicle drivers, that sort of driving is common place.
Imagine willingly submitting a clip of yourself hooning it at 100mph down the motorway. Ashley should pass it on to the police.
Or.....everyone could learn from it.
Great end to the video Ashley! I find myself getting crazy over frustrated with middle/right line drivers and personal need to work on keeping my cool. Always room for improvement
Very wise words to absorb at the end 👏
The first roundabout is a minute from where I live in Bromsgrove and I can say that everyone messes the M42 junction up. It is designed very shoddily.
It is quite bad, but it is fairly clearly signed. That said, I found myself in the wrong lane there once, too. The roundabout on the A435 by Wythall is worse designed, I think. Traffic taking the next exit after the A435 northbound makes almost a right angle turn at the very last minute if it follows the actual lane markings, giving incorrect road positioning signals to traffic coming southbound on the A435. So nobody follows the lane markings.
Brilliant Ashley
A good few years ago I had a scary incident when driving on a motorway.
I was in the left lane travelling at 70 mph and noticed a car on the hard shoulder and as I got closer the right indicator on the vehicle flashed once as the wheels turned and did a rolling start into my lane.
Luckily the motorway was quite clear of traffic and I could quickly change lanes otherwise it could have been a much serious incident and I don't think dashcam was available then.
Truly a remarkable video. I drive A LOT. I've come to learn that if bad drivers regularly inconvenience you then you yourself are a bad driver. If people would stop charging full speed into hazards and instead just held back a little and showed a bit of restraint when necessary you would encounter far fewer bad drivers. Instead people are insistent on closing down gaps unnecessarily and charging at situations putting pressure on weaker drivers and forcing mistakes. I'm not even a 'slow' driver and can make good progress with good planning and appropriate speeds.
Definitely a new viewer to your channel Ashley, no-one in there right mind would send you (of all people) clips of them driving so badly and expect you to take there side. I hope who ever this is takes notes from Ashley's advice and calms down before he kills him self or someone else.
I know a few of these roads very well as they are local to me. I shall be looking out for this chap and trying to stay well out of the way!
Hopefully after watching this back he will learn. We’re always learning.
soon 100k well deserved
The funny thing about the first clip 0:33 is that it’s good for a “cammer”. Usually one would expect to see them accelerate into the gap once they saw the hesitating driver go into the wrong lane and then slam on the brakes and beep when it comes across.
I strongly believe that there are soooo many people that, instead of using common sense to avoid dodgy or dangerous situations, actively seek them out for a video to upload!
It amazes me that people send these in, it really does. Shocking driving.
I live nearby the roundabout in Clip 2. Going in that middle lane if you intend to go into Leamington town centre is necessary in moderate or heavy traffic, as you don't get much time at all to change lanes before the next roundabout. Probably not necessary in light traffic but there's still a good reason to do it.
Thank you to EVERY ONE HERE, that's said with the highest regards. Sharing your driving with others to be "looked at/judged" is no small thing. Again thank you Mr Neal for your insight and to your viewer for sharing this footage.