Fix Truck Axle Threads On Skateboard & Longboard
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 เม.ย. 2011
- Easily rethread a skateboard/longboard truck axle using a die.
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Fix Threads On Skateboard Longboard Truck Axle
Damaged skateboard truck axle threads are caused from hitting the axle on the ground. Sometimes the axle nut gets ruined when being removing from a damaged axle. So you'll need to replace the nut when repairing the axle or the nut can ruin it again.
A die is a tool that every avid skateboarder should have in their tool box. Damaged threads are common and a die is the only tool that will fix an axle properly.
Tools You'll Need:
5/16" inch --24 Die with handle (24 means threads per inch, which is also labeled as "Fine")
Where to get a Die:
You can purchase a die and handle at most hardware stores for around $10. AVOID a cheap set.
You can also purchase a skate tool with a die made by Reflex called the Utili-tool.
Steps for Rethreading A skateboard/Longboard Truck Axle:
1. Remove the nut from the axle, and take off your wheel.
If your nut won't come off try using a flat head screwdriver to pry up the nut while you turn the nut. If your bearing is stuck to your axle or hanger hit it with a hammer.
2. Remove the die from the handle and place the die on the axle. It may be a lot easier to get the die on without the handle. Plus, as you turn the handle you can lift the handle off the die since the deck will be in the way as you turn. Remove the die from the handle by loosening the tiny pin on the side of the handle.
3. Before turning the handle with the die inside make sure the die is perfectly perpendicular or flat against the axle. If it's not you can ruin the threads or destroy the threads completely. This takes a lot of force so you'll know right away to avoid causing permanent damage.
4. You only need to go down as much as the axle is damaged, so it may only be a few turns.
5. Replace the axle nut with a new one. when taking the truck axle nut off the threads inside it typically get damaged. Your original nut can ruin your axle threads all over again if you put it back on.
Kingpin Rethreading:
If you have problems with your truck kingpin bolt and want to rethread it the correct size die is 3/8" inch --24.
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When you are using a die to cut or clean a thread always use a lubricant like trefolex. Also, you never cut a thread in one pass (constantly turning the die in the one direction until the end) do a half turn or so then back it off a quater turn to let the swarf clear the die (thats why the die has three or more cutouts around it, to help clear swarf out and not get clogged up and jamed). Keep doing this until you have reached the end of the thread. If you don't clear the swarf out it can jam up the die and thread and cut a really nasty notchy/broken thread or worse strip/cross the thread completely, which means new truck time.
good info but not really applicable to this imo. you shouldnt be removing enough material to clog the die as the threads have already been cut; youre only cleaning them up
Just watched all your videos back-to-back. Technique makes everything better and you just improved mine. Thanks man.
0:23 I totally have that tool! I saw it at the shop when buying my full setup and instinctively thought I'm going to need this in the near future!
Thank you for the sub and awesome comment. We are skaters, and make these videos for skaters. Our goal to educate skaters on the equipment they buy and ride every day.
i watched all your videos ,saved my money ,now i can buy another deck
Good videos man, helping me get my board tuned up for spring, only thing I noticed was always taught to do a full turn forward 1/4 turn back when using a tap or die.
Thanks for the tip. I've rethreaded a ton of trucks and never needed to do it. Everything seemed to work out fine in the end. Your tip makes perfect sense, tho. Thanks
AWESOME. Glad we improved your skating and knowledge.
ive always wondered what that was on some skate tools...i have so many pairs of trucks that got ruined and now i can go fix them...thanks so much
wow👏 this was really useful and informable. this is the tool I was looking for and I really need this thx for making a video like this it is truly one of the best videos ever that was actually helpful👏.
@Blast692 Thanks for the great comment and feedback. Yes you can rethread a kingpin. You'll need a 3/8ths-20 (20 means fine threads). If you're lucky you can find a place that sells the handle and die separately. For just these 2 parts you're looking at $15- $20US. Don't get a cheap complete set. You'll regret it because most cheap dies become stripped, ha. Anyway, it's totally worth the money to have handy, and you may need it in the future.
The axle washer is used as a spacer between the bearing and nut. If you don't use bearing spacers in the wheels the nut will push the inner ring of the bearing into the wheel. This binds up the bearing and it won't rotate. This crushed the shields in one way and pushes them out the other side.
We will very soon. We have been getting requests for that and will have one within a month.
love ur channel man, buying some wheels tomorrow
Thanks. It's about to get a lot better this week.
THANKS ALOT i used my friends reflex and it works! im currently riding my old thunders i really liked! you rock dude!
@ClowninAroun Washers keep the bearings from touching the truck and axle nut. They also allow tightening of the axle nut down (with a bearing spacer), so the wheel and bearings can more efficiently.
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Whoa! That was totally awesome! I need to get a tool like that!
Thanks. You're absolutely right. But most skaters, typically street skaters, don't use spacers. If you watch our other video about spacers you'll see how most of the time spacers don't work. You have to give a wheel a little bit of movement without spacers, and sometimes with spacers, because they don't always work.
Dude you are awesome and really all your vids are so helpful
We are happy to help. Can you try to explain more about what has happened?
You're killing me Seth. I go them blank a long time ago. I got them cheap just for the videos. Never road them.
5/16"-24. The 24 is important. It means how many threads there are per inch. It also indicates that nut or bolt has "fine" threads. However, it's very hard to find the right nut at a hardware store, because they don't sell thin/flatter nuts. They are usually taller and have more threads on them. This causes a problem when there is not enough threads sticking out on your axle for the nylon to grab onto.
Lol I thought a company payed you to make these video's, but dude i subbed, this channel is great and the skateboard balencing video was just AMAZING, Good work man.
Thank you. I also seem to feel it a little when I ride it. So I can correct I with my weight but it means I ain't totally centered. My old Venture trucks did not have this problem. If I was still riding tight like when I was a kid I'd be totally screwed.
Thanks for the tips. The reflex tool is really effective, def saved my old board for sure. worth the 20. get it. buy it now... by me one i like the green ones.
@XzRavingDave Sorry for the late reply. You don't have to take the die out. I think it's way easier to work with because the deck gets in the way depending on the die handle. Do what ever feels best to you. To me, it's easier to get the die on without the handle. Sometimes it can be really hard to get it on with the handle. That's why I take it out.
If they are worn down maybe not, but it might help. Since your trucks are new, it's probably from the tricks you're trying. Replace the axle nut too. If you have axle washers on you may need to remove one or both, so the nut can grab onto some threads.
@Hwiwonkills You can get the Reflex Utili-Tool at a skate shop or online, and get a die at a hardware store or online as well. Ebay has them. I saw a set for as cheap as $10. I recommend the skate tool. You actually made me realize I left something out. The size die is 5/16-24. Be sure you get 24, because this means that the die has fine threads which match the axle. Avoid sizes 5/16-18 or 5/16-32.
Yes we have years of experience working in a shops as well as skating.
@JustSomeRandomNewb No, the original or old threat will not be damaged. A die was specifically designed for this task. The die is the same size as the threads on the axle. All the die is going to do is remove, or push back metal that is in the grooves, as wells as sharpen the threads. If there is any damage to the original/old threads it's going to be caused by having the die crooked. I assure you that no damage will be caused by the die, if used correctly.
Some are sold with packs of bearings. Some places online sell them separately. Try your local shop.
you can purchase a re-threading dy from a hardware store, or find someone who has one. My uncle fixed mine yesterday and now my trucks are as good as new ! :)
hey i was wondering if you can tell me how to get a stripped bolt off of a truck cause my axle is'int stripped its my bolt so if you try to loosen it it tightens up so i was wondering if you can make a video on how to get a stripped bolt off of a truck for me cause you are a skateboard genius so if you can it would be really helpful
thanks
Right on man, but I prefer white lithium when I'm cutting axles. It makes it easier to get the metal shavings off with a shop towel and is what I've used in the machine shop when drilling hard metal and to keep my cobalt steel bits from wearing prematurely. But you're right WD-40 is good in a pinch, and you're right on about the motions.
Super informative man thanks
ok thanks! my thunders still have a long way to go i thought its over. thanks cant wait to skate them again!
Great Vid, one of a kind!
Yes we can help with squeaky trucks. A common trick is to use Dove brand soap shavings in the pivot cup bushing. Bee's Wax will actually work much better and last longer. It can resist moisture and doesn't break down as fast. Take a small piece of bee's wax rub it all inside the pivot cup. U could also put wax shavings in there instead. Rub some on the piece of the hanger that goes into the pivot cup. Bushings may be causing the squeaks too. Apply wax on the hanger that touches the bushings.
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@916attila I am going to assume you meant to say, "...the bolts [you meant nut] do NOT stay tight..." Is that correct? The problem is the nut. Like I showed in the video the the nuts can get damaged and loose their threads. Also the nylon (white plastic) in the nut gets worn out. You need to replace it. A new nut should fix your problem.
keep those videos coming!
Very good video
@skateboardtech thx and i needed to rethread my kingpin because I over-tightened my nut causing the kingpin to strip.
@TylerM4197 This happens sometimes while taking the nut off. Basically the threads are not twisting out anymore. To get it off you need to angle the nut as you turn it. Do this by prying a flat head screw driver between the nut and the bearing. Apply some force to the nut like you are trying to pry it off. With your other hand use a tool to try unscrewing the nut off. The nut just needs to angled as much as it can to get it off while unscrewing. let me know if this worked for you.
You're the best man.!
@anindo75 At a skate shop or hardware store. They are nylon locknuts (nyloc, nylock), size 5/16th, Fine threads. I believe it is also a Low or Standard hight. Best thing to do is take another one with you if you go to a hardware store.
THANK YOU THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN A PAIN IN THE ASSS
You are welcome
@Fredrik9730 Filing it down does work if the damage area is near the end of the axle. However, it's easy to mess up the rest of the threads if someone isn't really careful.
i have a reflex tool and i love it
Skate shop. Hardware store might have it, but they don't usually sell the same size in height. It's 5/16" inch - 24 THIN.
Actually, it's the bearing spacers that allow you to tighten the nut all the way down. Without the spacer there is nothing behind the inner ring to keep it from pressing inwards. The washers are also used as a spacer between the truck hanger and the bearing, and the axle nut and the bearing.
Thank you. Your video helps me as a beginner a lot. I hope you make more informative video like these. Looking faward. Greeting from Thailand :) #landofsmile
When trying to put on the Die it may be necessary to file the axle to remove some of the damaged material to allow the Die to go on. If you have to do this use the file at 45° to the axle and file around the whole of the axle trying to keep it even. When using the Die it should be lubricated with some cutting compound if you don't have access to cutting compound WD40 or similar will suffice Turning the Die continuously can cause the Die to break so make 1/4 a turn back for every 1/2 turn forward
Yes. Insert the axle through the bigger opening.
Find them at a skate shop. The dimensions are 5/16-24. The nuts at a hardware store are taller and may not screw on the axle good because it won't grab onto the nylon. Best thing to do is get new ones at a shop. Also ask for some old nuts if they don't have new.
Could you make a video on how to fix a free spinning bolt. Because I'll be rolling along and the wheels just pops off because my axle nut isn't tight enough and spins freely. Thanks
I personally would not choose the Silver tool, because they do break over time, BUT that was only because the tool was being used constantly at a skate shop. It's not too bad, but I really like that the Reflex tool has a die.
@DjHottspinz209 Keep the board on its side like I have it in the video, but put the bad side down. Use a flat head screw driver and a hammer. You can try hammering without the screw driver. You want to hammer down at the nut in just one spot. The screw driver might be easier. Put the end of the screw driver between where the nut and axle are touching and hammer down. This will cause the nut to be at a slight angle. Then try unscrewing it again. Rethread and get a new nut. Tell me if this helped.
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How did u get the nut off the truck?!?! I can't get the nut off the truck it just spins when i try to take it off PLZ HELP
@XxGreatestGrafficzxX New nuts is probably all you need. The old nuts went on so there shouldn't be a problem with the axle threads.
@Mal00fNYC Yes. 5/16-20 (20 means fine thread).
@14sharpobjects Get some softer bushings and tighten the nut down until the trucks are as tight as you like. If your back truck is ground down more than the front switch your trucks around
Can you do this on hollow axles or will it mess it up? Need HELP on this!
It can be very frustrating sometimes. Have patience. Sometimes I find pushing down and going the opposite way (couter clockwise) a tiny bit then counter clockwise helps for the threads of the die to find the threads of the axle. Take a close look at your threads. Does it look like one threads got smashed down into another? See what's causes the issue. If you can find the problem then you may know how to best use the die.
@nazhooskt Trucks can last quite a while. It really depends on how much grinding you do. Without seeing them I can't really tell you if you need to change them. If the grinding surface is really uneven then you may want to get new trucks.
omg i used the rethreder from my friends skatetool it works perfect
Thanks man i had the same problem !
@916attila Im a little confused as to what you did. Why are you saying bolts? This doesn't make sense. Again I am assuming you meant to say "nut". What size die did you use to rethread the truck axle?
It really depends on where you look. Online you can find one for maybe $5. It's a little hard to find dies sold in singles pieces. You can find sets between $10-$2, but they may not work very well because it's made low grade steel. Best bet is to find a 5/16 die online with a handle.
U should do a review on the element flat bar
what about washers on bushings? cuz i lost the bottom/big washer on one side of my board and I'm trying figure out whether I should still skate on it or buy another washer
Real nice, thnx bro
@D3spairExE Buy a new nut. That might solve the problem. If you have axle washers on remove one or both so the nut can go farther down the threads and have something to hold onto.
@TylerM4197 Is it like this even with the axle nut off? If so you kind of have to pry the wheel off. The wheel sticks because of the truck. Usually it's extra aluminum (called flash) on the axle. It gets between the bearing inner ring/race and the axle. You have to yank on the wheel really hard. Sometimes the bearing will stay on the axle. This makes it easier to try and pry it off. Be sure that you don't damage the seal or shield on the bearing when prying. Let me know if this helped.
One of my trucks can't hold nuts tight enough. Even when I switch the nuts it's still loose enough to be un-tightened by hand. Will re-threading the axle work? or by thread locking it?
I this also a problem with longboards with big wheel set ups? I can't decide between this tool and the silvertool. Please help!!
@ForeverTranceMusic Do you need to rethread it to get it out of the baseplate, or do you need to rethread it because the nut won't go on? If you want to take it off you can use a file to file away any troubling spots. If you want to rethread it use a 3/8ths die.
@alienskater135 At the end of the video I said at a hardware store. You need a 5/16th die. Some places sell them individually for a few bucks.
@TheKoolguy55 Did you loosen the pin? It should come out as easy as it did in the video after loosening the pin.
wait, so if I keep skating with damaged axles (from landing primo), it's going to mess up the nuts on the axles? Should I fix the threading asap?
The die on the skate tool is the same thing. But you don't have to have the skate tool either. You can get a die at a hardware store. Not sure if you can get individual sizes though.
Get it rethreaded if you want. We understand why the shop employee would say not to, but if you are skating in a way where you are damaging the axle rethread it so it doesn't get really bad. No matter what you will be able to get the nut off.
you should do one that show how to fix truck from the axle like moving one side of the truck so i can be even so it won't tight by it self
wait so if your bolt keeps getting loose and almost falls off, all i need to do is get new nuts and rethread it? i have malto hollow lights so the axle is hollow. will this work with hollow trucks?!?
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You can buy die’s that are hexagonal from any bearing shop and use a ratchet and socket on them👍
Keep. Up the vids there helpful
I bought indy trucks and they turn on one side (I ride medium, not tight) , should I disassemble the whole thing and/or swap bushings? Seen this problem a thousand time.
@anindo75 I hate to say learn to flip your board better, but that's the only way to keep them from getting smashed up. The threads on the axle are more important than the axle nut. As long as you can get the nut off that's all that matter. Pro's mess up their axles just as much as everyone. Plus who knows how often a pro changes their trucks or axle nuts. Everyone is different. You can get new nuts at a hardware store if you need them.
How do you fix the trucksbolts because the other one is gone? From philippines here
HOLY SHT thank you lols i thought i had to throw away my fav pairs of Indies...now i can just fix it!
Can you please do one on what bushings i should skate!!!!!!
You need to try and pry on the nut a little bit as you turn it. Hopefully it will grab onto some threads and come off.
My threads are too worn down as in they're not thick enough to keep the cut in place. My nut just spins right off. These are new trucks too. Will this tool fix that?
@skateboardtech hey man love your uploads. I was wondering if you can do this to a kingpin also? If so, do you know the size of it? I have indys and i love them. But like every truck, it is mostly prone to having its kingpin grinded and smashed to the bottom (mostly). Know any tool that can cut it a bit? Lol yes im that curious, but you're with the experience and ill leave it to you. Thx man; keep shredding!
please make a video of the best engineered skateboarding wheel.
I'm dying to know which one i should stick to.
thank you PR
We mention Oust a lot, and we do for good reason. They are the ONLY company that actually knows what they are doing, and not pushing just a brand name. The unfortunate thing is that Oust only supplies one wheel shape with 2 diameters and durometer (if I remember right). Their core is exactly .400" inch. The wheels are more dense, because they treated the urethane differently and used the highest quality available. No one can afford to buy a bunch of wheels and cut them up and look at the wheel structure under a microscope. We have. Ricta was supplying good wheels a while back. I am not sure how they are now. They could be Chinese garbage. Bones seems to have good urethane, but it's hard to say, at the moment, how well their wheels are manufactured. In another video we point out how Bones wheels do not accommodate Bones Bearing spacers. That is poor engineering/manufacturing right there. The real honest problem is that no one cares anymore. It's all about how cool their brand is. People also have no clue what a good product is so they get suckered into buying gimmicks from greedy brands.
And how about truck brand? I currently own a pair of thunders. I remember owning a pair of tensor mid back in high school, I learned 360 inward heels and hard flips with those. After I traded them, it just wasn't the same. 😞