Hey guys! If you're interested in getting some free rewards in celebration for 5.0 coming soon check out the Blaze To Natlan web event! You can get some decent stuff in there :D hoyo.link/2PSkFBAL Also lemme know if you're interested in future unscripted content like this. I do this sometimes for Vars 1 whenever the new season comes out or any major updates. It's also nice and comfy to make every now and then.
Just one correction at around the 4 minutes mark. They always gave us 20 pulls in the anniversary. The first anniversary was going to give the 10 fates, but then there was a huge backlash, so they turned something they were originally going to make as a paid bundle into in game mail rewards and gifted those to the players, along with 1600 primos, thus totaling the 20 pulls rewards.
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dpis it though? Rewards aren't qol and while some are happy with addition to the Artifacts system to anyone whose played other gacha or an MMO The grind isn't ever meant to end making it easier does nothing because artifact are a resource dump that it Where as gameplay hasn't actually been effected here. Stories Traversal are good additions This stuff is just you like Dompamine here's some more of it
@demonking-zm3rs Exactly, these people think they shouldn't have to grind. What's the point of playing the game if you get what you want every time? We are getting to the point of humanity where every one wants every thing handed to them. They don't want to work for it. They only QOL I cared about was the reduction of Fate Points for Weapons. I just wish those that don't like something, don't consume it. Then again, I'm biased. I have 2600 hours in Genshin over the last 3 years and I haven't even completed the Inazuma Quest. I'm only just now about to meet Gorou. I love the game. There's so much to do.
Not me. I’m more excited for the new region than the QoL. I’m not fully coming back until we actually have an endgame mode. Otherwise, I’m just coming back yearly for the Archon and Summer event quests
I personally don't like the dragons look like pokemons or that the 5.0 characters look like trainers. I am not excited to save another nation after Fontaine, it feels cheap. The traveler losing to Arlecchino was very disheartening also.
Improvements are nice, though i gotta like how im doing a triple about face spit take on the whole `free 5 star unit.` because its a LIMITED TIME OFFER in a SINGLE VERSION ONLY, meaning that its not like they are gonna add a standard unit to it every few months, but instead be a once a year thing. Considering most mobile games life span for atleast the good ones if i recall right is usually a 5~10 years with those that last longer then that are usually extremely forgotten due to newer fresher titles to jump into and more optimized in general or got so much unbalanced power creep that its impossible to join into the game no matter how generous they are on the starting goods...really doesnt give many `once a year advantage` of handing out a free 5 star as much as maybe doing it on year 2 or 3 of the game`s lifespan. Plus honestly the fact they only `lowered` the amount needed for a weapon pull guranteed flop and not just outright make it 100%, kinda means NOTHING, if the pursuit of the character itself is already too much of a primogem suction that only absurdly lucky-people or Whales would actually get the weapon, especially if the content in the game is not challenging enough to create a incentive to chase that high-bar of gacha for a weapon instead of a new character itself who could have particular interactions that FAR-outstrip the value a weapon can provide. Since i think people will always want to pull for something like a Fatui harbinger or Archon, even if its some constellation dupe almost always, due to how mihoyo handles scaracity of unit chasing in genshin. If Genshin had its weapon banner just be 100% guranteed on proc, then i feel the bar would be low enough for people to want to chase both the CHARACTER and WEAPON together if they arent a sizable spender of the game itself. Ultimately though, they need to keep going with the improvements, but to be honest, just like how Warframe, Final Fantasy 14 and many other games did significant improvements, i dont believe i will be `coaxed` to abandon my veto of mihoyo games to crawl back a third time like i did with honkai impact and Genshin impact atleast once or twice for both of them. Because no matter how much improvements a game does, if its still got its annoyances abundant, then why would you go back into an abusive relationship again, even if they offer to give you bacon strips once a month or something? So the players who did stay can feel better with the improvements, but honestly if you have to spend nearly a decade for a game to get `better`, then thats a decade you could of spend enjoying stuff that was good from the start. It reminds me of the particular meme of Warframe where `it gets good after 100 days`, these kind of statements are really just what i call is: They dont care about your time if you have to spend a long-arse investment just to start getting to the good stuff. Games should be designed to be good from the start, have any sort of `boring tedious elements` minimized into a freaking black hole and simply go from good to fantastic on its escalation of Wowzies instead of expecting everyone to suffer a bad game, just to eventually reach the gold mine of a `good game`, after suffering an Exodus of a volcanic biome for thousands of miles.
@@BladeSerphentitled people will always think "not enough" "too late" "can do better", anything less means nothing, anything except giving credits, what a sad life
@@junn679 that’s what happens with toxicity in general. The point is though that one cannot erase the first impressions and the lasting impression on any material. It’s good that Genshin is now ‘healing itself’, but it can’t change the fact this only started when more titles in its genre started popping up. Plus it’s still shackled to live service in general so it’s on a ticking clock before it hits EoS. If I had to be extremely generous I could imagine it lasting 10 maybe 15 years. But if each region takes one year, what will Genshin do after year 8 or 9, where you had finished all 7 regions, visited kahenriya as likely the ‘abyss region’ and visited celestia? Where would the story go from there if it’s not simply gonna spam a bunch of random side stories like guardian tales or cookie run kingdom does to pad out things by outright ignoring its main story line bits in the process. With some games getting real silly by spending half a year or so giving power ups to many characters in many new gacha gained forms and then treat it like they got all those power ups or had them all along, once they get back to the main story itself?
I started playing in 1.4 (with a 1 year break around Fontaine) and I STILL don't have Jean. She was my most wanted standard 5 Star and the fact that I'm not even F2P and I didn't get her so far is crazy. So I'm excited that I'll finally get her in 2 weeks.
Same for me, but with Mona. Not a single Mona in 4 years of playing is insane. Finally I'll at least have a copy even if I'll probably never use her for anything.
Same situation with me, but I want Qiqi. I've been waiting patiently for her to come home, but she gave me only middle fingers by throwing Jean constellations at me. 😅
I started in 1.0 and played to around 3.5 before taking a break to 4.0 (and then another from 4.5) and I still don't have Mona, with a total of 3,525 pulls on the limited character banner...
A bit shorter, but ever since Tighnari came out, I've never gotten him. I have all the other 5 stars, and even some constellations on Jean and Diluc, so I'm glad to finally have a guaranteed Tighnari.
Resin overflow like HSR and even ZZZ will be adding is definitely doable at least, would be nice. I'd also like the artifact inventory space cap to increase again
Okay, now they need to add the CRUCIAL lore story events AS PERMANENT events, you know.. unreconiled stars, the albedo events… and the seasonal events should be RERUNNED, for new players, I can’t stand the world building flaws and dissonance genshin has due to not having this 😭😭
I think Genshin should open some opportunities for new players to get the limited old stuffs like how FGO has implemented with their own old welfares like Rider Kintoki
Exactly, really annoys me when people act like the corpo is being all nice and such good people for being mildly more generous. They just want people to come back for their big update and spend more money.
@@adoggred people are eeeeating it up too. This is again "generous" by genshin standards. What do 4 year old accounts need with a standard selector....?
When their bottom line start to be affected, you will be surprised at how flexible corporations are. And this means Genshin definitely felt threatened enough that they have to make this many changes.
agreed. I kind of wish other games were out sooner so that they'd be pressured sooner, bc sadly genshin bored me to tears with the tedious grind, and ig unless they add good endgame im not returning
@@randomperson4198WuWa has the highest monthly income of all gacha games minus Hoyo games, which puts it 3rd or 4th place depending on how ZZZ is going. It’s not dying.
@@monstertmg7004 i know its not. I just said i hope it would stay a float even if it did. a half revemue is not really any indication of going to shut down yet. i just assumed its just dead patch.
Wether this is occuring now due to competition or something else, Its nice that they added Qol updates but for me this is past overdue and irks me that its taken this long for something like this to appear
For me, it's because they have a competitors now that they make this kinda massive changes. You might can call me ungrateful for this mine of thinking....
I'm just mad that we are gonna get all this cool stuff for this year's anniversary but they won't go and give us more cool stuff for the old anniversaries to make things right. So we are still shafted for all the years prior.
I'm actually gaslighting myself that "We've been given so little or the bare minimum in the past that this year's anniversary seems super generous", but I'll give credit where the credit is due. This year, we eatin' good boiz.
@@lathamtk the thing is, if its only 'increasing the anniversary rewards to how they should have been' is one thing. But the fact that the increase comes with some of the best QoL, a region release, more endgame content level, increase in gameplay rewards, more in-game rewards, top-up reset(and free kachina and 4 star weapon too) it really is a buffet. Because not only do we get increased anniversary rewards, but the gameplay rewards that have never been problematic is also increased, you get me? Like this patch just gives out so many content and rewards that it actually feels like an all you can eat buffet
@@JacobJahjasadji the region release is just a schedule thing (it was gonna happen either way), the free 4 star from a new region is a standard too at this point and it only coincided with the new weapon. All the other changes are the bare minimum as the competition is starting to heat up inside and outside Mihoyo too.
I'm very skeptical with the changes to the gacha rates (both character & weapon banners). When these type of things happened in gacha games, it usually means that pulling for them becomes more relevant (mainly to compensate for the revenue loss of lowering the cost required to pull). In the end, they're still a company & they want to make more money. They're adjusting the gacha rates to be on par with their other titles (HI3rd, HSR & ZZZ), and they have blatant powercreep to reflect on their "generous" gacha system. Even WuWa isn't safe from this either. Fully building characters in Genshin will be even more important in the future (if you've seen the datamined info of future Imaginarium Theater, you know what I mean). Imaginarium Theater is basically Abyss 9-12 in one run, but you can't use the same character, the same artifacts or the same weapons, which means you HAVE to give everyone their own weapons & the best way to get good weapons is by pulling on the weapon banner. So is this bad? No... This can be healthy for the game since weapon banner will finally have a purpose for the majority of the playerbase aside from just fancy cosmetics you give to your favorite character. However, this can also mean that they'll be releasing more powerful niche signature weapons (Emilie 50% increase 💀) since people are now more willing to pull on the weapon banner.
if i was the ceo, i'd definitely make C1/2 more appealing to have to play IT, and also cut out a part of a char's kit and slap it on the weapon like what HSR does lolz
Be careful. They recently did that to Hi3 making things cheaper to build, but the RNG to get characters have changed and every character they release is always meta dps / support for the previous character
@@cakegood True, all Part 2 characters are pretty much chained together. Once you get one, you need EVERYONE. They also gave Part 2 characters unique weapon types just to prevent you from using any Part 1 weapons. I couldn't stand it so I left. Genshin seems to be moving towards this way as well, but who knows maybe they'll learn from their mistakes? COPIUM
Trust is not something that cn be regained in a day, they need time to regain it so i will watch all these changes with suspicion instead of gratitude. It wouldn't be the first time a company does a big good thing just to screw its community over and Hoyo is notorious for being greedy and stubborn. Though I have to say that this update is almost perfect, the only thing missing are an actual update to the resin system and an update to make older characters relevant again since they still need to rerun them and it would only be beneficial if they get a big buff with a level 100 ascension since players would be happy to see their characters getting usable again and Hoyo would be able to keep selling them without feeling guilty for the economical loss in rerunning them right now
See, this is honestly a culmination of the past months. Ever since 4.4-ish, the devs have been a LOT More transparant in their dev blogs about what they are planning, and what they are currently working on. and they are still getting more and more transparant even now. I think these updates are a real benchmark of how they are serious about improving the game for their players.
If you threaten to quit your job, and then the boss gives you a raise to keep you there, he isn't being generous. Sinical Desperation - that's the word we're looking for.
5:20 The quantity of sanctifying elixir may still not matter. The lower left corner of that artifact screen still shows there may be heavy limits. It might very well be effectively once per month. And, no, you would not be entitled to thinking this should have been here earlier lol. As a live service game, we all know, or at least should by this point even if Genshin is your first gacha game, that these RNG shenanigans are to prolong playtime and prevent bouncing off the game. It was never meant to be a fun interaction. It is something you engage with but don't get angry enough to stop playing.
My thoughts exactly. I see these changes being really attractive to new players (let's define "new players" as those who joined at 4.0 or later), since the game has been progressively improving throughout the last year or so. Still... as an old player, though I'm glad it's finally getting better, I can't shake the feeling it's indeed "too little, too late", seeing barely any improvements (QoL, rewards and endgame content) for the first 3 years of the game. I wonder how I'd feel if things were as good back then, maybe I wouldn't have such mixed feelings about the game as I do now.
@@kuuhakudesu I think you should dettach from the game, your way to invested emotionally, it's draining and not healthy. I feel like this mentality of "I must be involved and attach myself to this game" is super damaging
But they literally do have a monopoly with genshin honkai and zzz now being the most successful gachas by far, they just see the chance to improve genshin which is good
@@bellowheaty1228Oh please. I love wuwa but you idiots are beyond coping. Trying to say it's any kind of competition to genshin is embarrassing lol it's a niche community and you're just trying to grab on to any hope you can that it's not gonna be the next dead in the water gatcha
competition means products vying for the same audience and not about having the same business strategy (gacha). L&D and Genshin don't have the same target audience (i could be wrong idk) so L&D making more money doesn't matter. If I had to guess, the backlash during Lantern Rite with players comparing rewards and QoL improvements with Honkai Star Rail may have played a big part in this upcoming Genshin update. Many Chinese players also boycotted as lantern rite is culturally important to them and not giving proper rewards seems like disrespect. Main comparison players made back then was star rail getting a free 5 star. Lo and behold, we're getting a free 5 star in 5.0.
I agree with how we should give them credit here. Those changes are actually massive and if this keeps up and the rest of the game follows suit (like sped up text or straight up skipable text for side quests/event quests or at least let us choose dialogue options with the number keys like Starrail and ZZZ already let us do, right now I am still not through with the Fontaine temporary area thingy because it just draaaaaags or faster movement options not tied to characters) I can genuinely see myself enjoying Genshin again. There would still be a massive need in the late game department but still, this is a huge step up. Also I am still missing Tighnari so this is amazing. Unless I lose to him I will definitely choose him. I do wish they'd revamp the stamina system and basically just copy Wuwa here. Don't lose stamina while running ooc.
They won't change traversing the open world, their solution is to sell you characters that can travel better rather than change the core mechanics. After trying WuWu traveling around in Genshin is just painful though. Even with a party that can travel and climb quickly you keep having to swap them out.
It took them 4 years, but it seems finally, FINALLY they're listening to player feedback. I sure hope the days of begging for QOL improvements only to see them implemented ON ANOTHER GAME (you know the one) are over...
I feel like a lot of the changes was to hide the fact that they have to keep up with the other upcoming Gacha games, the recent controversies about the POC stuff and the scarcity of primos per patch. The new update seems nice, but I can't help but feel a bit meh, because it took awhile for them to listen to us on pressing issues with artifacts, scarcity of primogems with every patch, and the anniversary rewards, to the point where I don't care as much anymore. The Free SSR Selector hardly brings a smile to my face as a December 2020 player, as I have everyone on the Free SSR Selector, but Mona. I think it would have been more nice if they gave us ANY SSR, or maybe a bigger roster. Overall, the live stream was an eye opener. I think if they keep up the momentum during 5.0 and beyond, I might be inclined to shift my stance about the game.
Their """"competition""""" is MHY's other games. Only Love and Deepspace have managed to outsell their games so far. Idk why you guys expect the most successful company to give you free stuff - obviously I would want them to but it's delusional to expect it.
Yeah, the update is nice and all but I wish it was a little bit sooner since it's being asked a long time ago. I also quit playing around the Arlecchino banner so I find it a bummer I can't experience these rewards anymore since I'm too busy to do so. Oh well, if they keep this up, good for the incoming players ig and those who can benefit from the selector. Tho I am aware of the artifact customizer one so honestly good for them on that front.
Eh, Im still skeptical. They saw how many players were dropping this game over time due to competition and other factors. I feel like this is just a way for them to retain players and make them return for them to leave alone until dissatisfaction comes back
yeah its not just wuwa there are other competition games coming out soon will it might not impact genshin and even if they arent as popular its still a start genshin got very lucky in covid other games have to struggle to retain players that also applies to genshin which has alot of factors on why people are leaving or stopped spending otherwise the game will only be about story and people arent buying the story with money
I actually really appreciate the artifact to exp conversion as an AR60 player. I always hoard a lot of 5 star artifacts in case i might need them later and have a full inventory all the time. the fact that 4 star artifacts and lower don’t fill up my inventory is very helpful
As someone who played since 1.1 but stopped around Neuvillette's release, the QoL changes sound great, and i'm happy for the new and old players that still enjoy the game, but I can't help but feel a bit dissapointed that it took Hoyo so long to implement them. We are literally a year away from Snezhnaya, and I know the game won't be over by that time, but it feels like we are past the prime of Genshin and they are just now taking action about the matters that the community has been bringing up for the longest time.
7:57 I agree, we should praise the change of attitude do they see it as worthwhile and keep up with it. Then if they don't keep up with it, then we can start yapping.
I started playing Genshin back in 2.2 or 2.3, my passion for the game started slowly descending towards the end of Sumeru, to the point where I only logged in for the Fontaine main story then disappeared for the rest of the patches. After playing HSR for a few months after its release, I couldn't bring myself to try and progress in Genshin anymore. I was considering just deleting the game and watching the Natlan story from streams or vods, even though I'm a very big fan of Genshin's lore, and the story was my main reason for playing. This special program made me actually excited to play the game again.
I got burned out in Inazuma with all the stupid thunder barriers and the dark environment was too depressing for me. Inazuma looked fantastic but it was constantly depressing. Sumeru is boring to me. Fontaine looks great but I miss Mondstadt and Liyue too much they are my visually favorite maps. Inazuma is so far down on the map I never really even bother going all the way far down so I forget about Inazuma.
@@itsmznatnatbitchez same for me. I didn't really like Inazuma's story and exploration compared to other regions. Especially finding the oculi with all the underground caves when there wasn't a layered map for caves and stuff. Sumeru's Archon quest was interesting, but way too long for its own good with the time loop bs. As far as exploration went, I hated it, especially the desert. But Fontaine was awesome, especially the underwater exploration.
Thai changes everything and nothing at all, they are going in a new direction we’ll see how it goes. This has been the payoff of the past year of QoL changes in the 4.X patch cycle, this is a cathartic release and the team’s conduct these past couple days has shown they realized they were too arrogant. Hoyo does and have listened by implementing and keeping a close ear to player sentiment (the time between IT release and announcement of changes was very fast). But in the same coin people can be disappointed it took them 4 years. But in the future expect the flagship Hoyo games to entirely overlap on QoL/Benefits as they’ve been building to for the past year.
Funny how it didn't even take a month for Vars to go from Natlan is genshin's last chance to THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.Really taking inspiration from Mtashed
huh, MTashed refrence also GENSHIN ACTUALLY COULD LETS GOOOOOO(it only took 4 years and a real competetion but a win is a win, if only they put more units in standerd banner like wriothsley or clorinde)
Most likely the only units to be added to Standard are ones whose banners rarely appear like Ganyu, Albedo, Klee, Shenhe, etc. As far as Fontaine is considered, I think Wrio would be added too Standard while the second unit you mentioned wouldn't since she is still "new"
I’m glad Atleast some people can appreciate these changes some of the same people who were asking for more rewards are the same people saying that the rewards aren’t good enough because we are getting them now instead of before
For 4 years, we always say “at least it’s a step in the right direction.” but we never reach the right destination. one step in the right direction, two steps back in the wrong direction. so we keep coping. For 4 years, it’s always we’re getting there. *But we NEVER get there.*
I think giving us standard fates more generously will be a good thing since we get only 5 fates from Battlepass and 5 from monthly shop reset increasing it to 20 standard fates per patch will be a good thing
A wonderful reaction from you, here, to the as- wonderful Genshin update. Share your enthousiasm and positivity as to Genshin's changes in game and (seemingly) àttitude' towards the fanbase! Thxxx for your thoughtful 'review', Vars ! ♡
I am mostly excited for the artifact selector at the moment. Although if they roll everything but crit its going to be such a bad feeling 😭. I have all the standard banner characters i want now (pulled Mona on that chronicaled wish and now i feel silly). But if they keep adding new standard banner 5* characters then getting one each year is really good for both old and new players.
@@Thedoorway123 Seems fine to me. Do the math, most FTP or low spenders are only getting a 5 star every other month or so at most. You can get every new 5 star a on set goblet with this system assuming your luck isn't super trash.
@@Thedoorway123 Something does not because bad just because unrelated games are more generous. Face you don't pick your game based on which one offers more free stuff.
Hoyo played this hand as long as they could, and used their other games to test these variations without messing with their flagship game before committing to any permanent changes. Peak capitalism, basically.
Although some older and weaker 5 star units make sense to be in standard banner for us players, the legality of it kinda makes it really hard to happen... So what we, as a community, should ask/wish for IMO is buffing or even "reworking" some 4* kits into 5* units (just add, no take aways for legal reasons too). So no one would feel bad that they payed for something that used to be exclusive and as the standard banner is completely free now, the units we already have some constellations are also just okay for mihoyo as it shouldn't intervein with their revenue (as low as albedo, eula, klee and any other we think should be a part of wanderlust invocation). For example: Add/give NINGGUANG a normal attack string animation and put some juice into her kit such as pushback enemies with rocks (somewhat like xianyun's) to emphasize Ning's defensive playstyle or even absorbing nearby crystalize shards (navia) to transform her CHARGED NA/ULTIMATE into pyro/cryo/electro/hydro especial geo "interactions" somewhat like vaporize, melt reactions either extra damage, effects and whatnot. There are plenty of ways to strengthen various character's kit, but mainly underperforming ones that have a proheminent presence in the main story-line are the ideal candites for standard banner roster, such as Kayea, Lisa, Candance...
im happy we are getting optimistic. a lot of games i play have a playerbase who gave up on a game which affects the community a lot. im happy we are getting hope even though not much results yet. would be nice if they make switching characters is faster like hsr since playing different units feels so awkward since it takes so long to switch, and using the mini map while farming feels so weird. and the promo codes like they expire so fast, i couldnt claim them D:
companies are not our friends, their number one priority is still making money... in hoyo's case it's through games. and this is their hope to get old players back and rake in more money from their declining game. thanks to genshin ive come to hate live service games 😭 i rly like genshin and its lore and characters but atp I'd rather just buy a full price game that's finished and doesn't feel like a chore LOL idk y'all don't need to glaze hoyo so much they literally don't gaf about you, they only care for your money
I'm elated with the increase in rewards and looking forward to the new region. As for the QoL changes personally I'm not banking all my hopes up on the Sanctifying Elixir. It sure is a great addition nonetheless but I bet it's an extremely scarce resource and even if we get two crit stats immediately it won't guarantee that all refinement goes to those 2. The things I'm most excited about would be the Weapon Banner upgrade. Now it's more achievable to get a signature weapon. It makes the banner a little more bearable. The other one would be the Free 5 star cause being Monaless for 4 years since release kinda sucks. 😂
honestly, im glad that we're getting these QoL changes now...but the fact that it took 4 years and the only real reason is bc competetion like wuwa and other new gacha games is also kinda sad to see. it shows how hoyo rly doesnt care abt what the players think and js want to keep milking money out of people. but i think its still not going to be enough...if hoyo wants to keep people playing and spending on genshin, then they rly need to start showing that they care. what still baffles me is how hsr is so much better yet hoyo wont implement those good features in genshin (reserve tb power, better recharge rates, more endgame, better weapon banner, etc.)
Yeah I feel like they should've done smth special every anniversary instead of like dumping it into 1 anniversary and the following anniversaries may remain dry (aside from the constant 5* selector). I also just think it's a bummer that the past anniversaries were dry but this particular date isn't. Although if this is actually where things get better for Genshin in terms of QOL then good for them.
@@shishiroro6351 yeah, obviously im happy to be getting actually nice QoL changes this anniversary, it js feels...forced. like hsr's first anniversary gave so many pulls and rewards, yet this is the first year in genshin where we get smth like a 5 star standard selecter, when hsr kinda has one alr and a lot of 4 star selectors. at least we're benefitting off wuwa existing 🤷♀
Wuwa did nothing it's the same dumb speculation like "Oh they just only now added new Endgame" Wuwa just existing (because let's be honest It didn't do anything with the systems it copied) would mean any Gacha people have been calling the Killer would invoke the same response Notice how none of them did its also dumb to scream Greedy. There a Company all of them are about profit and its more a statement that gambling chips and a new toy is more relevant Then the actual game which notice that a lot of people say "I quit Genshin" but still seem propelled to watch and respond to its content This is something they've been contemplating for a while but to be honest. I don't expect nuance from players The people who had issues will still have issue because Genshin is still foremost a Narrative Game and certain people want it to be an MMO/Typical Gacha And when there not thrown currency every patch or forced into the powercreep grind they'll go back to The same nonsense hoping that "Wuwa will force change" when it never did
@@MTF-Shadow WuWa glazers think they whole world revolves around them. WuWa is also a greedy game, otherwise it wound'nt be a gacha game. I guess you will always find some way to be mad instead of being happy that the game is improving no matter the reason behind it. Kuro games doesn't care about you either. Stop living in delusions.
As an old player who nearly bricked my account building a wide roster these changes actually are helpful in the hard long grind of topping off the many characters I have built to passable yet not fully "endgame" levels
I know that we got these changes but the fact it took this long to get them is crazy and for people who have all the standard characters it’s just like “O free glitter I guess”
I for one am happy about it, been playing 3 years and only have c0 Jean. I want to get her to c4 eventually! I'm a Venti main and with c4 she can decrease anemo res.
For me, there is the obvious notion that these changes SHOULD have been implimented years ago (outside of the weird new wish thing that basically makes banners a 55/45 instead of a 50/50, which is good, but feels so insignificant that I have a hard time understanding why theyd bother at all. Again, new animation and more positive gacha prospects are always good, but its just weird). But even if it should have reasonably done this sooner, its a pretty damn good that theyve started doing it at all
I'll split my opinion in the two media coverages: The livestream and the event where Dawei cried. The livestream: Was solid, it was the same old format that we always see with a little bit more of comedy we usually see on honkai star rail livestreams, the rewards are, for the long haul, good for the game, but there are some things to nitpick. Even though we get a 5-star selector, it is a 5-star selector from the standard banner. The game nowadays has enough characters for someone to be able to pick a limited character for free on the anniversary, instead of a 5-star from the standard banner. The amount of primogems, I'm not going to give my take on that because I haven't done the math to see if it's worth or not. The stamina though, I still think they could implement the system so we could run on stamina endlessly, UNLESS we're on battle/swimming/climbing, that way you can make stamina relevant without having to discard it completely. This livestream tried to cater things for all players and that's a bad thing. It looks like it tries to pull new players with new additions and drag old players with make-do rewards, but smart people can see through that. The Dawei crying part though is something that is extremely unpleasant. People can take the side they want to, and that's absolutely okay if you believe that wasn't scripted but coming from real feelings. Professionalism dictates that those speeches shouldn't be allowed. It's a sob story from a multi-billionaire that heard his game (which by now we know it's not his favorite series) heard 'criticism'. I'm 100% sure there are people that went overboard and threatened them, as I'm also 100% sure there are people that gave valid criticism which wasn't adressed so far (emphasis on so far). But I really dislike a corporate member crying in public when he is doing something he allegedly loves but he doesn't know how to deal with the good/bad takes that his costumers give. That's my opinion :)
He is still human regardless. Worse case it either it fake or he is a snowflake. Which would mean it still real but he need to except that not everyone is well professional in comments. He want people to like the game and hope Natlan is well received. Something people forget is that when Genshin was about to release, him and the team were also extremely nervous and worry if it would do well. So really see no different but hope that Cai has nothing to do with Genshin now.
14:26 is a total lie you can see how 4.8 had less primogems that older years, also look at 4.6 chest they just quit rewards to leave them in another update
did we really get good stuff from the devs? 1. capturing brilliance is just 5% wishing boost. basically we don’t have 50/50, but 55/45. That’s something, yes. But it really isn’t much. 2. sanctifying elixir. How often will they allow players to get 4 of these? You need 4 elixirs to craft one good artifact. I bet you it’s super rare and will still take a super long time to get the ideal artifact piece you want. (And real talk, once we level up that good artifact, subrolls will go mostly to flat HP and flat Def). 3. free 5*. Standard banner characters are mid (viable at best), but they’re generally outdated. Genshin giving players free outdated character is like receiving leftovers. Would be nice at least if Genshin added already a new 5* Standard character. But no, they’re giving us leftovers. fyi, HSR & WuWa give free LIMITED (NOT Standard) 5* characters that are actually high-tier characters. This genshin 5* selector thing should have happened already back in 1.x or 2.x updates. Not in 5.0 4. Weapon 5* fate reduced to 1. bruh, we should have had this since the beginning. Genshin devs bamboozled us for 3 past years with having to lose 2x before we get our guaranteed. Them reducing fate point to 1 should have been bare minimum YEARS ago. WuWa has no 5* weapon 50/50, and HSR has 75/25 or 70/30. How is Genshin better? - thanks, but these aren’t really much. Genshin devs know how to trick players into believing they gave you a lot. But the truth is, they are just doing what they should have been doing years ago. Players didn’t get something really good out of the usual. We’re just getting bare minimum now after 4 years, and we’re supposed to be jumping for joy? lol. you have got to be kidding me. I’m no fool. I see past the bs of genshin devs. btw, saveable artifact custom loadouts, when? Stop being bamboozled by these Genshin devs.
Great update and all but the fact that it took 4 years and 3 other competitors for them to start improving things just slightly knocks down my excitement for it. Free 5 star selector is meh, good for new players, useless for veterans. I have never wished on the weapon banner as an F2P player so can't say anything about the change to 1 fate point. Anniversary rewards are good, no complaints there. Sanctifying elixir is also good. Capturing radiance is a very good addition, If you lose 50/50 your have another 10/90 to hope to win to get the featured 5 star. That's all really, wish they gave us a free venti for us non-kazuha fans but can't keep asking for shi.
@@PlanetDiablo16967 because they're disappointed ex-genshin players who make speculations out of their disappointment, yet people think it's true because they like to jump into the bandwagon to shit about GI with them, and Genshin is so popular with a lot of toxic fans, that's why.
@plainsalt Genshin's only real competition has released in the form of WuWa, and several more really big non-Hoyo gachas are around the corner. Hoyo isn't making changes to Genshin so that it can better compete with their other games because if I stop playing to Genshin to play HSR then Hoyo doesn't really lose anything. As long as any money/time they would've gotten from me in one game is still going to another Hoyo game, it's a positive. There's obviously some stuff that was changed because it worked in other games, like raising the maximum resin cap but attributing all the changes to Hoyo's other games and ignoring that Hoyo will soon no longer be competing alone in its niche market is silly. It's obvious that these changes are more geared towards keeping their players from going to play other non-hoyo games in the future.
I’ve been holding out on starting Genshin because I mostly care about the story and the long you wait the more you get to play through in one go. But this is definitely going to get me to start playing now.
This still won't bring me back to Genshin full time...I will only do the Archon Quests but after that... adios until Snezhnaya. All of this was simply things that should've been here since day 1. Congrats to competition, Wuwa, and future genshin-like games such as Azur Promelia, Project Mugen and that Neverness-to-Anime Gta.
@@kuvjason7236 It's a step in the right direction, a very big change and it's very unlike hoyo to do this for a game like genshin, which hopefully gives a stronger light for the future. If they can continue on this path I'm sure a lot of people will return. I think it's important to give credit where credit is due, they did good but yeah doesn't amount to a lifetime of bad, but at least it hopefully expresses a desire to do better (for players or due to competition, idk). Like mentioned in the stream as well, they're looking to be better at feedback and improvin more while acknowledging that they haven't done great, (someone mentioned dawei went on a trip to get opinions on genshin from around the world, no factcheck on that)
Congrats to WuWa? Lets just see if they keep delivering first. From May to June they had a staggering decrease in players, and while they are recently stable now, there numbers of active players dont hold a candle to Genshin het Furthermore, Genshin players rates have not been affected by WuWa in the slightly, still having similar fluctuating before it's release. Using WuWa to shit on Genshin doesn't do the image of WuWa as a game any good, and is in all honestly, a battle that WuWa is currently losing
@@joeyyoung5173 I love to hate on Hoyo as much as most people. But I feel like once again, people jinxed WuWa with the typical ''It will be the Genshin killer!!! This time it's true I swear!!!!''. Something similar happens to ''Smash Bros killers''. They all end up flopping badly.
@@joeyyoung5173Think about it tho. Wuwa gave 1 early 5*, 1 choice pull 5* 1 mail 5*, and 1 limited 5*. Hsr gave 1 early 5*, and one choice 5* after 300 pulls (shit). Genshin's giving one after 4 fucking years. They're pressed over wuwa
I'm very happy with these announcements really, heck even before this on the previous patches I have been noticing the QoLs and they have been quite appreciated, sadly it's probably still not gonna make me play Genshin as actively before simply because I feel like I'm so far behind that I couldn't muster up the energy to catch up, I still do login ocassionally on Abyss and Theatre resets simply because it's a short activity and it's the part of the game I enjoy the most.
I agree - it’s good to praise the folks making the product when they listen to the consumer. I think at this point, they’re more or less at the baseline compared to other large gatcha games from other teams at hoyo or their competitors. If I were them, I’d push farther and make a new and desirable character from Fontaine and/or even Natlan on the standard banner. That’d excite new and old players alike. While it’d sacrifice some revenue, I think the excitement generated would bring in more.
1.0 Player here, all I want to say is that I CAN FINALLY GET JEAN THANK FUCK. Especially considering how good they are with Furina, it's been really irritating not having them (also the reason I haven't used my guarentee 5 star in HSR, I don't want to suffer this again)
These QoL improvements are AMAZING for 'medium-length' players, aka players that started from roughly 2.3-ish. Not just for new players. I started in 2.8 and these changes impact me positively in a huge way. I still have so many characters I want to raise and build (currently have probably around 20-30 characters either fully or 'functionally' built), and artifacts to grind, that Mora, monster drops and Experience materials are still an issue for me. Remember, I've been playing for just over 2 years now, pretty much daily. Free Standard character is great for me because I only lost my 50/50s a handful of times (twice to Mona, once to Dehya and once to Keqing), and I got a Tighnari twice and one Diluc through Standard Banner. I got my Jean through the Chronicles Wish in 4.5 because I love her as a character and wanted her for my Furina teams. People like me will now be able to get cons more reliably just because we love the characters. And then raise and build them much faster so we can use them. I am VERY happy with these changes.
Elixir is not the same as Self-Modeling Resin, there's a limit (of 1?) on how many pieces per artifact set you can craft in a "cycle" (patch? month?) and the elixir cost varies by slot (Flower/Feather = 1, Sands = 2, Goblet = 4, Circlet cost is not shown). Crafting a custom relic with Self-Modeling Resin always costs 1 (plus 100 remains) no matter what slot and you're not limited on how many you can use at any time. So artifact crafting with elixirs is actually more restrictive with the pickable substats merely existing to cushion said restrictions.
As someone who started playing Genshin because of the characters and lore, I really hope there is a way in the yearly 5 Star Selector to get 5 stars that are older, like Yae Miko, Albedo, and Tartaglia (Which thank you for telling us about the law in China about limited characters in 10:05). As for the lore department, I really hope after Natlan we can replay events that are lore heavy like they are Character Story Quest and grab event exclusive weapons and items, maybe even through the Imaginarium. They are going in the right direction, It's just sad HSR did a lot first and only in a few months than years
it's the bare minimum it will take more than just one step in the right direction to impress me oh look exploration will be more rewarding finally...how many region are we gonna have to explore again ? Natlan, Schneznaya (I never remember how to spell that one) and then what ?
Don't forget Khaenri'ah/Abyss along with potentially Celestia and other worlds outside of Teyvat. THis is only the Teyvat Chapter remember. We could always explore the Dark Sea outside of Teyvet boundaries.
I’m glad that they’re bringing that five star selector, I had been playing since a couple months after release so almost four years essentially, and I was a whale, and despite all the 50/50’s I’ve lost, and all the standard wishes I’ve gotten, I don’t have a SINGLE Mona. Unfortunately i think it’s a little too late for me to wanna invest in this game ever again, both time and money, but I’ll probably come back every year for the rewards haha
I hope Genshin keeps up the good updates. And I hope all the gacha games (ZZZ, HSR, WUWA, and Genshin) can continue to push each other to improve, too.
the start of the video is spot on, i doubt people will come back unless there some major qol changes me included i doubt i'll come back to the game if it stays "the same" as it normally is
This is just the beginning. You can see at the face of that developer that this is a kind of "forgive us" move, look at him with his cute cards, this means that DEV has new directions from the top, and that means a lot more improvement for the game. Imaginarum is getting a work around, the story is popping off much harder in this region, the story events give more rewards, it's just an accelerated pace now.
I'm glad they're finally listening to feedback and are incorporating QOL, however, I still think it's too little, too late for me; until/if they improve the core gameplay heartiness, I don't think it'll be enough to get me back cuz exploration is only so fun for as long as you're not bored, or until you've cleared everything; beyond that I don't think they've added enough to the central gameplay loop to pull me back in because it'd still be the same daily domain grinds with spiral abyss and the theatre sprinkled in every couple weeks; it might be with new characters, but the gameplay is the same as 1.0 seeing all these changes just makes me really bittersweet like "that's really nice, but why didn't you do it sooner"
@@number1cheater272 well I've been playing for two years and sure many are in the same boat having no incentive to pull new characters or make stronger builds. Idk, I'm always hoping that they will add something more meaningful for long term players :(
this feels like them smoothing over the natlan drama by doing the BARE MINIMUM that hsr has had for a WHIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLEEEEEE. either way if they make iansan suck then at this point I give up
I've been playing Genshin about 7 months now and with 5.0 I was gonna play up until I got Raiden Shogun and Zhongli and then put the game down for a bit...but with all the new QoL changes they're doing for the game as a newer player I'm very looking forward to playing more. Especially as I have grown to love the world of Teyvat and it's colorful characters.
I know many of you might still think that this is too little for you to have interest again, but I believe this is the changing point where they will continue to improve further with each upcoming version. I know 4 years is a long ass time for them to implement these changes but I'm glad they finally did it, because it's always better late than never. Now please stop making wars and appreciate what we are getting because we players are the real winners in these competitions.
This is some great news for genshin, especially old players. On another note, a common way to bypass the chinese advertisement rules is to change it from a limited banner to a rate up banner, like that in afk journey. Here, the limited banner just become an increased chance to get a character not the only one.
Oh that game that had an ass release and wasn't able to catch up revenue wise with Genshin's filler patches? Yeah Hoyoverse must've been quaking in their boots because of that
i'm an ex genshin player who stopped at 4.2-4.3 and honestly? I never thought Genshin would see such an improvement or at least a sign that they would be willing to improve and this is a very nice surprise. I don't think i will return and i doubt i will have the time to return playing as i once did when they improve enough for me to consider reinstalling, but i'm happy new and returning players will be able to have a more enjoyable experience.
Genshin’s only doing this because of competition, and I’m not talking about HSR and ZZZ. The primary example is WuWa. They have • better open world stamina system/traversal • 5 star selector on release • daily stamina storage system with patch 1.2 • free LIMITED 5 star (xiangli yao) • multiple forms of endgame content (illusive realm & holos) This is not to mention the many upcoming high quality open world gachas on par with genshin and wuwa that is set to release later this year. Better late than never hoyo.
I wish genshin increased the stamina bar outside of combat at least, I just got back today after not playing since feb and wuthering waves’ QoL with exploring has ruined my perception of genshin
@@Balbaneth Exactly, I feel like people aren't even glazing Wuwa because it's genuinely a good game, but rather they are trying to make it some hyper competition to Genshin when it just isn't. Main reason I never played the game, the people who do this make the game seem worse because it constantly needs to be defended or compared to Genshin no matter what it does.
Wuwa is a great game with a lot of though in it, but Kuro's generosity was entirely out of desperation, they had to make up for their lack of initial quality and polish because if they game flopped they would be in massive trouble with ZZZ just around the corner and Genshin's summer region and new region updates coming. It was not the company being nice.
@@number1cheater272 it is a genuinely good game. But it feels like it hasn't once gotten out of open beta maybe in 3.0 it will feel like it actually is something. The music will finally be decent, the echo system won't feel like garbage etc etc etc. Again Wuwa is a masterpiece.
HOLY SHIT. This is amazing. That's a lot of good changes. Specially since we were so pessimistic they would change anything QoL AT ALL. And I really appreciate it cause I dropped off late Sumeru. I played a little Fontaine, mostly some underwater stuff, but that was it I mean compared to how much I played everywhere else, I've barely looked at Fontaine. I haven't played Genshin for months, whereas for two years or so I would play a lot every day or a couple days every single week. Idk if I'll play a lot again to that degree, but this is really encouraging that it might be worth getting back into in general.
might be my brain just in denial but about the addition of characters to a new type of standard banner, i don't think that's gonna happen and they're just gonna do a non limited release like tighnari and dehya 🤔
@VarsII at 6:20, why would you think that you are entitled to wish that this were sooner thn later? Mihoyo genshin impact should've released this kind of mechanics on the game within their first year but they are too lazy to do so, the devs had a hard time copy pasting and reposting, recycling their content on another skin over and over again. If anyone doesn't get this then your are too slow and too dumb to realize that you are holding on a game that you pretend to enjoy but not. Riding on massive copium that takes a huge amount of time growing instead of rotting withn the hame. "But they implemented this and you should be grateful," They implemented this too late, 4th year playing on the same game that's been stale for 4 years. That is too much and too long for this kind of mechanics, it is not an improvement for the long time players that stayed and rotted with this game but rather an insult and they only proven that they could do this but chose to shit on us for four years.
Idek why they care to stay on top or not 🤔 they have 3.. maybe 4 extremely popular games, they will never not be rich, but if them being desperate to stay on top means QoL for us, then good I guess
"Holllyyyy shit lord da wei ! They were almost able to beat nilou skin revenue with their most hyped banner ! We're DOOMED! QUICK , give the players an standard banner character!"
As a day 1 Genshin player who stopped playing after 3.0, this is a step in the right direction but it's still not enough for me to come back and play because the world in Genshin is large and after WuWa's traversal style it's really hard to try and run around and explore the world without getting frustrated with stamina depleting, slow climbing, no grapple hook ....etc and besides ascension materials still being locked to a certain day of the week sucks BIG time+ no resin overcap for when you can spend it on some days. However, this is still a step in the right direction and if they budged after all these years to add so many QoLs, it means with more time and feedback they'll be willing to open up more QoLs and real massive changes. Or at least one could hope, right?
It's funny people keep talking about wanting more POC's and yet in every single the popularity polls Iansan is dead last. It's almost like they don't really care at all and it was all for clout. lol
"Genshin could after 4 years and after the market share being threatened by a competitor, finally start pressing a singular button to change the numbers."
I'm actually curious about this upcoming artifact system. Imagine if it started with just the 2 substats you choose instead of the usual 3 or 4. That could be a small "we delivered but f- you nonetheless
Hey guys! If you're interested in getting some free rewards in celebration for 5.0 coming soon check out the Blaze To Natlan web event! You can get some decent stuff in there :D hoyo.link/2PSkFBAL Also lemme know if you're interested in future unscripted content like this. I do this sometimes for Vars 1 whenever the new season comes out or any major updates. It's also nice and comfy to make every now and then.
Vars we love you ❤
Vars I think you need to check out the post GI livestream speech made by Da Wei. He basically says that similar things will happen in the future.
Just one correction at around the 4 minutes mark. They always gave us 20 pulls in the anniversary.
The first anniversary was going to give the 10 fates, but then there was a huge backlash, so they turned something they were originally going to make as a paid bundle into in game mail rewards and gifted those to the players, along with 1600 primos, thus totaling the 20 pulls rewards.
9:18
Vars, the like and subscribe graphic wasn't chroma keyed
Even lost to the raffle link.
Looks like Hoyo doesn't even want to give their chance to win 100primos from their web event.
Definitely not decent.
I love how everyone is a lot more excited about the QoL stuff rather than the new region. XD
because at the end of the day, it's directly tied to your user experience.
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dpis it though? Rewards aren't qol and while some are happy with addition to the Artifacts system to anyone whose played other gacha or an MMO
The grind isn't ever meant to end making it easier does nothing because artifact are a resource dump that it
Where as gameplay hasn't actually been effected here. Stories Traversal are good additions
This stuff is just you like Dompamine here's some more of it
@demonking-zm3rs Exactly, these people think they shouldn't have to grind. What's the point of playing the game if you get what you want every time? We are getting to the point of humanity where every one wants every thing handed to them. They don't want to work for it. They only QOL I cared about was the reduction of Fate Points for Weapons.
I just wish those that don't like something, don't consume it.
Then again, I'm biased. I have 2600 hours in Genshin over the last 3 years and I haven't even completed the Inazuma Quest. I'm only just now about to meet Gorou. I love the game. There's so much to do.
Not me. I’m more excited for the new region than the QoL. I’m not fully coming back until we actually have an endgame mode. Otherwise, I’m just coming back yearly for the Archon and Summer event quests
I personally don't like the dragons look like pokemons or that the 5.0 characters look like trainers. I am not excited to save another nation after Fontaine, it feels cheap. The traveler losing to Arlecchino was very disheartening also.
Vars bringing out his inner Mtashed with that thumbnail.
He didn't quit tho.
Except this actually does change things
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Hey at least he ain't making I'm gonna quit for the 50076th time for attention
@@sudiptaday7875 and then continue making genshin videos even after he quits
I’m genuinely so happy to see all the changes, improvements and rewards. May this foreshadow a brighter future for the game.
Improvements are nice, though i gotta like how im doing a triple about face spit take on the whole `free 5 star unit.` because its a LIMITED TIME OFFER in a SINGLE VERSION ONLY, meaning that its not like they are gonna add a standard unit to it every few months, but instead be a once a year thing.
Considering most mobile games life span for atleast the good ones if i recall right is usually a 5~10 years with those that last longer then that are usually extremely forgotten due to newer fresher titles to jump into and more optimized in general or got so much unbalanced power creep that its impossible to join into the game no matter how generous they are on the starting goods...really doesnt give many `once a year advantage` of handing out a free 5 star as much as maybe doing it on year 2 or 3 of the game`s lifespan.
Plus honestly the fact they only `lowered` the amount needed for a weapon pull guranteed flop and not just outright make it 100%, kinda means NOTHING, if the pursuit of the character itself is already too much of a primogem suction that only absurdly lucky-people or Whales would actually get the weapon, especially if the content in the game is not challenging enough to create a incentive to chase that high-bar of gacha for a weapon instead of a new character itself who could have particular interactions that FAR-outstrip the value a weapon can provide.
Since i think people will always want to pull for something like a Fatui harbinger or Archon, even if its some constellation dupe almost always, due to how mihoyo handles scaracity of unit chasing in genshin.
If Genshin had its weapon banner just be 100% guranteed on proc, then i feel the bar would be low enough for people to want to chase both the CHARACTER and WEAPON together if they arent a sizable spender of the game itself.
Ultimately though, they need to keep going with the improvements, but to be honest, just like how Warframe, Final Fantasy 14 and many other games did significant improvements, i dont believe i will be `coaxed` to abandon my veto of mihoyo games to crawl back a third time like i did with honkai impact and Genshin impact atleast once or twice for both of them.
Because no matter how much improvements a game does, if its still got its annoyances abundant, then why would you go back into an abusive relationship again, even if they offer to give you bacon strips once a month or something?
So the players who did stay can feel better with the improvements, but honestly if you have to spend nearly a decade for a game to get `better`, then thats a decade you could of spend enjoying stuff that was good from the start.
It reminds me of the particular meme of Warframe where `it gets good after 100 days`, these kind of statements are really just what i call is: They dont care about your time if you have to spend a long-arse investment just to start getting to the good stuff.
Games should be designed to be good from the start, have any sort of `boring tedious elements` minimized into a freaking black hole and simply go from good to fantastic on its escalation of Wowzies instead of expecting everyone to suffer a bad game, just to eventually reach the gold mine of a `good game`, after suffering an Exodus of a volcanic biome for thousands of miles.
@@BladeSerphit's GaaS games for ya
@@BladeSerphentitled people will always think "not enough" "too late" "can do better", anything less means nothing, anything except giving credits, what a sad life
@@BladeSerph im NOT reading allat
@@junn679 that’s what happens with toxicity in general.
The point is though that one cannot erase the first impressions and the lasting impression on any material.
It’s good that Genshin is now ‘healing itself’, but it can’t change the fact this only started when more titles in its genre started popping up.
Plus it’s still shackled to live service in general so it’s on a ticking clock before it hits EoS.
If I had to be extremely generous I could imagine it lasting 10 maybe 15 years.
But if each region takes one year, what will Genshin do after year 8 or 9, where you had finished all 7 regions, visited kahenriya as likely the ‘abyss region’ and visited celestia?
Where would the story go from there if it’s not simply gonna spam a bunch of random side stories like guardian tales or cookie run kingdom does to pad out things by outright ignoring its main story line bits in the process.
With some games getting real silly by spending half a year or so giving power ups to many characters in many new gacha gained forms and then treat it like they got all those power ups or had them all along, once they get back to the main story itself?
I started playing in 1.4 (with a 1 year break around Fontaine) and I STILL don't have Jean. She was my most wanted standard 5 Star and the fact that I'm not even F2P and I didn't get her so far is crazy. So I'm excited that I'll finally get her in 2 weeks.
Same for me, but with Mona. Not a single Mona in 4 years of playing is insane. Finally I'll at least have a copy even if I'll probably never use her for anything.
Same situation with me, but I want Qiqi. I've been waiting patiently for her to come home, but she gave me only middle fingers by throwing Jean constellations at me. 😅
I started in 1.0 and played to around 3.5 before taking a break to 4.0 (and then another from 4.5) and I still don't have Mona, with a total of 3,525 pulls on the limited character banner...
Exactly my situation
A bit shorter, but ever since Tighnari came out, I've never gotten him. I have all the other 5 stars, and even some constellations on Jean and Diluc, so I'm glad to finally have a guaranteed Tighnari.
9:29 lmao someone got lazy with the green screen lol
he definitely already knew
MY BAD I FORGOT TO ADD THE CHROMAKEY 😭
@@tentiapoeguess he didn't
for sure, it's like opening up your phone at 3 A.M. and got blasted by the phone brightness
@@tentiapoe He didn't
Now we just need them to remove the cap on condesed resin
Nah that goes against everything genshin believes in, forcing you to a time limit for anything and everything
Add overflow actually
@@Thedoorway123This, one of the best features they could add.
Resin overflow like HSR and even ZZZ will be adding is definitely doable at least, would be nice. I'd also like the artifact inventory space cap to increase again
@@Thedoorway123 gonna write this down in the next feedback survey
For me it's a step in right direction. First one. and not enough to get me back to playing Gi daily again., but still a positive change.
It feels as if they started listening to their audience again. I feel the same bout playing GI daily. But im somewhat more compelled to come back.
@@AStupidPinkDragon They've always listened, just not to what you wanted them to listen to
Okay, now they need to add the CRUCIAL lore story events AS PERMANENT events, you know.. unreconiled stars, the albedo events… and the seasonal events should be RERUNNED, for new players, I can’t stand the world building flaws and dissonance genshin has due to not having this 😭😭
Unreconciled stars has been evoked at the end of Sumeru.
They're building it, slowly back up
Its a storage space issue. We mobile players do not have the storage for that
@@thesparklegirl3236you could have an option to download it temporarily then delete it when you completed it
@@thesparklegirl3236 They already implemented a "past quest resource management" feature a while back. Now its just a matter of taking it further.
I think Genshin should open some opportunities for new players to get the limited old stuffs like how FGO has implemented with their own old welfares like Rider Kintoki
"It only took 40 years"
- The Huntsman
**** Insert GIF of Rose from Titanic saying "It's been 84 years" here ****
It only took 40 years
*sits down
Every move a corpo makes, whether it benefits you or not, is a financial one.
Exactly, really annoys me when people act like the corpo is being all nice and such good people for being mildly more generous. They just want people to come back for their big update and spend more money.
@@adoggred people are eeeeating it up too. This is again "generous" by genshin standards. What do 4 year old accounts need with a standard selector....?
@@izanagiuzumaki7325 true, these standard has lesser value for 4 years account that gets more better alternative other than being a collection.
I don't know what you're trying to say with this? This is just an obvious statement.
@@izanagiuzumaki7325 so you have every standard character c6? Even Tighnari and Dehya?
When their bottom line start to be affected, you will be surprised at how flexible corporations are. And this means Genshin definitely felt threatened enough that they have to make this many changes.
And thank goodness for that!
agreed. I kind of wish other games were out sooner so that they'd be pressured sooner, bc sadly genshin bored me to tears with the tedious grind, and ig unless they add good endgame im not returning
And im guessing wuwa is the reason so i really hope wuwa still at the very least floating if its dying
@@randomperson4198WuWa has the highest monthly income of all gacha games minus Hoyo games, which puts it 3rd or 4th place depending on how ZZZ is going. It’s not dying.
@@monstertmg7004 i know its not. I just said i hope it would stay a float even if it did.
a half revemue is not really any indication of going to shut down yet. i just assumed its just dead patch.
At like 9:29 there’s a slight editing error with the like and subscribe animation 😭
Oh woops I FORGOT TO ADD THE CHROMAKEY LOL
@@VarsIIhappens to the best of us
genshin made an update so good vars posted a video like half a week before he’d have normally made a genshin video
Wether this is occuring now due to competition or something else, Its nice that they added Qol updates but for me this is past overdue and irks me that its taken this long for something like this to appear
Is it just me or did they introduce so many of these updates to serve as damage control for the Natlan backlash?
For me, it's because they have a competitors now that they make this kinda massive changes. You might can call me ungrateful for this mine of thinking....
@@StoreAge248 tbh I think it’s a bit of both at this point, they don’t wanna lose any of the remaining player base they already have
I'm just mad that we are gonna get all this cool stuff for this year's anniversary but they won't go and give us more cool stuff for the old anniversaries to make things right. So we are still shafted for all the years prior.
@@warriorKatsK just u, noone in Asia cares about skin colour stuff in fact 90% of all players dont care about this.
I'm actually gaslighting myself that "We've been given so little or the bare minimum in the past that this year's anniversary seems super generous", but I'll give credit where the credit is due. This year, we eatin' good boiz.
To a starving person, a normal portion looks like an all-you-can-eat buffet.
when I first stumble upon it I thought it was like a fan made troll post lol
@@lathamtk the thing is, if its only 'increasing the anniversary rewards to how they should have been' is one thing. But the fact that the increase comes with some of the best QoL, a region release, more endgame content level, increase in gameplay rewards, more in-game rewards, top-up reset(and free kachina and 4 star weapon too) it really is a buffet. Because not only do we get increased anniversary rewards, but the gameplay rewards that have never been problematic is also increased, you get me? Like this patch just gives out so many content and rewards that it actually feels like an all you can eat buffet
@@JacobJahjasadji the region release is just a schedule thing (it was gonna happen either way), the free 4 star from a new region is a standard too at this point and it only coincided with the new weapon. All the other changes are the bare minimum as the competition is starting to heat up inside and outside Mihoyo too.
Eating less than average but for a genshin player I guess its a huge step up and feels like a lot
Let's hope that these kind of changes will be plenty and frequent, instead of just for one two patches and then it goes back to how it was before
I miss my "4" wishes for continuing supporting GI for '4 years'
I mean they did give a 5 star instead of it
thats lantern rite not anniversary
@@raylu8014 lol we get lantern rite every year it's basically an anniversary event
@@co7769 theyre still different events that happen at different times
@@kitsune_gt they are literally the only TWO events that we've gotten every year, that's my point kitsune
I'm very skeptical with the changes to the gacha rates (both character & weapon banners). When these type of things happened in gacha games, it usually means that pulling for them becomes more relevant (mainly to compensate for the revenue loss of lowering the cost required to pull). In the end, they're still a company & they want to make more money.
They're adjusting the gacha rates to be on par with their other titles (HI3rd, HSR & ZZZ), and they have blatant powercreep to reflect on their "generous" gacha system. Even WuWa isn't safe from this either.
Fully building characters in Genshin will be even more important in the future (if you've seen the datamined info of future Imaginarium Theater, you know what I mean).
Imaginarium Theater is basically Abyss 9-12 in one run, but you can't use the same character, the same artifacts or the same weapons, which means you HAVE to give everyone their own weapons & the best way to get good weapons is by pulling on the weapon banner.
So is this bad? No...
This can be healthy for the game since weapon banner will finally have a purpose for the majority of the playerbase aside from just fancy cosmetics you give to your favorite character. However, this can also mean that they'll be releasing more powerful niche signature weapons (Emilie 50% increase 💀) since people are now more willing to pull on the weapon banner.
if i was the ceo, i'd definitely make C1/2 more appealing to have to play IT, and also cut out a part of a char's kit and slap it on the weapon like what HSR does lolz
As someone who already pulls on the weapon banner regularly, them making it cheaper _and_ the weapons more powerful would be a win/win in my book.
Be careful. They recently did that to Hi3 making things cheaper to build, but the RNG to get characters have changed and every character they release is always meta dps / support for the previous character
@@cakegood True, all Part 2 characters are pretty much chained together. Once you get one, you need EVERYONE.
They also gave Part 2 characters unique weapon types just to prevent you from using any Part 1 weapons.
I couldn't stand it so I left. Genshin seems to be moving towards this way as well, but who knows maybe they'll learn from their mistakes? COPIUM
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Trust is not something that cn be regained in a day, they need time to regain it so i will watch all these changes with suspicion instead of gratitude. It wouldn't be the first time a company does a big good thing just to screw its community over and Hoyo is notorious for being greedy and stubborn. Though I have to say that this update is almost perfect, the only thing missing are an actual update to the resin system and an update to make older characters relevant again since they still need to rerun them and it would only be beneficial if they get a big buff with a level 100 ascension since players would be happy to see their characters getting usable again and Hoyo would be able to keep selling them without feeling guilty for the economical loss in rerunning them right now
See, this is honestly a culmination of the past months. Ever since 4.4-ish, the devs have been a LOT More transparant in their dev blogs about what they are planning, and what they are currently working on. and they are still getting more and more transparant even now. I think these updates are a real benchmark of how they are serious about improving the game for their players.
@@TheJH1015 guess genshin had actually lost a significant amount of income and they need to regain
I'm out of the rabbit hole and not going back but good for you guys.
I'm glad u no longer play gachas it's a good thing all things considered lol
@@ScapyMakii don't think playing gachas is bad, spending on gachas is the problem
Have fun on whatever youre playing rn mate whats important is doing what you like cheers
Ok so what was the fucking point of commenting then? No one gives a SHIT!
Good for you man, but if your not in the rabbit hole anymore why even look down the hole, just walk past it and let the people who still play discuss
If you threaten to quit your job, and then the boss gives you a raise to keep you there, he isn't being generous. Sinical Desperation - that's the word we're looking for.
No skip button no redemption.
also, no saveable custom artifact loadouts, no redemption.
"BuT iTs A SToRy GAmE 🤓"
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5:20 The quantity of sanctifying elixir may still not matter. The lower left corner of that artifact screen still shows there may be heavy limits. It might very well be effectively once per month. And, no, you would not be entitled to thinking this should have been here earlier lol. As a live service game, we all know, or at least should by this point even if Genshin is your first gacha game, that these RNG shenanigans are to prolong playtime and prevent bouncing off the game. It was never meant to be a fun interaction. It is something you engage with but don't get angry enough to stop playing.
This is WAY too little too late but it’s one good change. I need to see consistency
My thoughts exactly. I see these changes being really attractive to new players (let's define "new players" as those who joined at 4.0 or later), since the game has been progressively improving throughout the last year or so. Still... as an old player, though I'm glad it's finally getting better, I can't shake the feeling it's indeed "too little, too late", seeing barely any improvements (QoL, rewards and endgame content) for the first 3 years of the game. I wonder how I'd feel if things were as good back then, maybe I wouldn't have such mixed feelings about the game as I do now.
@@kuuhakudesu I think you should dettach from the game, your way to invested emotionally, it's draining and not healthy. I feel like this mentality of "I must be involved and attach myself to this game" is super damaging
@@number1cheater272 You can have a good relationship with a game and still think critically and be disappointed at the same time.
Ok, competition is good for consumer. I highly doubt that devs would have made such changes if they had overwhelming monopoly in a gacha market.
no one will put in an effort if they have market monopoly
But they literally do have a monopoly with genshin honkai and zzz now being the most successful gachas by far, they just see the chance to improve genshin which is good
@@T-------- not anymore
wuwa is competing with genshin now
hoyo games being the most succesful doesn't mean they're the monopoly
@@bellowheaty1228Oh please. I love wuwa but you idiots are beyond coping. Trying to say it's any kind of competition to genshin is embarrassing lol it's a niche community and you're just trying to grab on to any hope you can that it's not gonna be the next dead in the water gatcha
Thank you, Love and Deepspace! After 2 months of losing to husbando gacha, they finally stepped up.
Hello fellow player!
competition means products vying for the same audience and not about having the same business strategy (gacha). L&D and Genshin don't have the same target audience (i could be wrong idk) so L&D making more money doesn't matter. If I had to guess, the backlash during Lantern Rite with players comparing rewards and QoL improvements with Honkai Star Rail may have played a big part in this upcoming Genshin update. Many Chinese players also boycotted as lantern rite is culturally important to them and not giving proper rewards seems like disrespect. Main comparison players made back then was star rail getting a free 5 star. Lo and behold, we're getting a free 5 star in 5.0.
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I agree with how we should give them credit here. Those changes are actually massive and if this keeps up and the rest of the game follows suit (like sped up text or straight up skipable text for side quests/event quests or at least let us choose dialogue options with the number keys like Starrail and ZZZ already let us do, right now I am still not through with the Fontaine temporary area thingy because it just draaaaaags or faster movement options not tied to characters) I can genuinely see myself enjoying Genshin again. There would still be a massive need in the late game department but still, this is a huge step up.
Also I am still missing Tighnari so this is amazing. Unless I lose to him I will definitely choose him.
I do wish they'd revamp the stamina system and basically just copy Wuwa here. Don't lose stamina while running ooc.
They won't change traversing the open world, their solution is to sell you characters that can travel better rather than change the core mechanics. After trying WuWu traveling around in Genshin is just painful though. Even with a party that can travel and climb quickly you keep having to swap them out.
It took them 4 years, but it seems finally, FINALLY they're listening to player feedback. I sure hope the days of begging for QOL improvements only to see them implemented ON ANOTHER GAME (you know the one) are over...
I feel like a lot of the changes was to hide the fact that they have to keep up with the other upcoming Gacha games, the recent controversies about the POC stuff and the scarcity of primos per patch. The new update seems nice, but I can't help but feel a bit meh, because it took awhile for them to listen to us on pressing issues with artifacts, scarcity of primogems with every patch, and the anniversary rewards, to the point where I don't care as much anymore. The Free SSR Selector hardly brings a smile to my face as a December 2020 player, as I have everyone on the Free SSR Selector, but Mona. I think it would have been more nice if they gave us ANY SSR, or maybe a bigger roster.
Overall, the live stream was an eye opener. I think if they keep up the momentum during 5.0 and beyond, I might be inclined to shift my stance about the game.
The poc is genuinely not a controversy
The “controversy” isn’t a big deal its activist people cry about a game
And not to mention they said they'll be increasing the mainstay pool each year
Their """"competition""""" is MHY's other games. Only Love and Deepspace have managed to outsell their games so far. Idk why you guys expect the most successful company to give you free stuff - obviously I would want them to but it's delusional to expect it.
Yeah, the update is nice and all but I wish it was a little bit sooner since it's being asked a long time ago. I also quit playing around the Arlecchino banner so I find it a bummer I can't experience these rewards anymore since I'm too busy to do so. Oh well, if they keep this up, good for the incoming players ig and those who can benefit from the selector. Tho I am aware of the artifact customizer one so honestly good for them on that front.
Eh, Im still skeptical. They saw how many players were dropping this game over time due to competition and other factors. I feel like this is just a way for them to retain players and make them return for them to leave alone until dissatisfaction comes back
yeah its not just wuwa there are other competition games coming out soon will it might not impact genshin and even if they arent as popular its still a start genshin got very lucky in covid other games have to struggle to retain players that also applies to genshin which has alot of factors on why people are leaving or stopped spending otherwise the game will only be about story and people arent buying the story with money
Genshin is more popular then WUWA, ZZZ, and almost hsr combined.
The fuck you talking about lol
@Crusina what are you talking about bud? I don't see anyone here denying Genshin's popularity 😂😂
18:55 Glad I wasn't screaming into the comment section/void all this time for nothing.
They lost to Love and Deepspace and decided to lock tf in.
The real competition, hot 3d men 😔
@@EternityNight I wonder why Love and Deepspace is seen as actual genshin competitor lol. But I guess woman need romance and not endgame content.
I think it's just a joke 😅@@storagecrafter5701
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I actually really appreciate the artifact to exp conversion as an AR60 player. I always hoard a lot of 5 star artifacts in case i might need them later and have a full inventory all the time. the fact that 4 star artifacts and lower don’t fill up my inventory is very helpful
As someone who played since 1.1 but stopped around Neuvillette's release, the QoL changes sound great, and i'm happy for the new and old players that still enjoy the game, but I can't help but feel a bit dissapointed that it took Hoyo so long to implement them. We are literally a year away from Snezhnaya, and I know the game won't be over by that time, but it feels like we are past the prime of Genshin and they are just now taking action about the matters that the community has been bringing up for the longest time.
7:57 I agree, we should praise the change of attitude do they see it as worthwhile and keep up with it. Then if they don't keep up with it, then we can start yapping.
I started playing Genshin back in 2.2 or 2.3, my passion for the game started slowly descending towards the end of Sumeru, to the point where I only logged in for the Fontaine main story then disappeared for the rest of the patches. After playing HSR for a few months after its release, I couldn't bring myself to try and progress in Genshin anymore. I was considering just deleting the game and watching the Natlan story from streams or vods, even though I'm a very big fan of Genshin's lore, and the story was my main reason for playing. This special program made me actually excited to play the game again.
lowkey will log in again for rewards i’ll see
I got burned out in Inazuma with all the stupid thunder barriers and the dark environment was too depressing for me. Inazuma looked fantastic but it was constantly depressing. Sumeru is boring to me. Fontaine looks great but I miss Mondstadt and Liyue too much they are my visually favorite maps. Inazuma is so far down on the map I never really even bother going all the way far down so I forget about Inazuma.
@@itsmznatnatbitchez same for me. I didn't really like Inazuma's story and exploration compared to other regions. Especially finding the oculi with all the underground caves when there wasn't a layered map for caves and stuff. Sumeru's Archon quest was interesting, but way too long for its own good with the time loop bs. As far as exploration went, I hated it, especially the desert. But Fontaine was awesome, especially the underwater exploration.
Thai changes everything and nothing at all, they are going in a new direction we’ll see how it goes. This has been the payoff of the past year of QoL changes in the 4.X patch cycle, this is a cathartic release and the team’s conduct these past couple days has shown they realized they were too arrogant. Hoyo does and have listened by implementing and keeping a close ear to player sentiment (the time between IT release and announcement of changes was very fast).
But in the same coin people can be disappointed it took them 4 years. But in the future expect the flagship Hoyo games to entirely overlap on QoL/Benefits as they’ve been building to for the past year.
Funny how it didn't even take a month for Vars to go from Natlan is genshin's last chance to THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.Really taking inspiration from Mtashed
My guy Mtashed isn't the only youtuber in history who has used the "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" title... lol
@@VarsII No,but he sure as hell popularized the phrase considering how many memes were made about him
@@VarsII Wait till ppl find out sensationalism existed before gacha game even existed on YT
@@AHILE2018 no, adjusting your opinion on something as new information releases is actually a pretty normal thing to do
huh, MTashed refrence
also GENSHIN ACTUALLY COULD LETS GOOOOOO(it only took 4 years and a real competetion but a win is a win, if only they put more units in standerd banner like wriothsley or clorinde)
Most likely the only units to be added to Standard are ones whose banners rarely appear like Ganyu, Albedo, Klee, Shenhe, etc. As far as Fontaine is considered, I think Wrio would be added too Standard while the second unit you mentioned wouldn't since she is still "new"
I dont think they legally can add limited characters to standard because they could be sued. That's why they did the chronicled banner.
@@ManiacalBlueberrytighnari and dehya literally were limited units
@@aspen34 And they were advertised ahead of time as going to be on the standard banner. Maniacal is right. Vars even says it in this video.
They’re limited they can’t. If anything raiden should go in there
I’m glad Atleast some people can appreciate these changes some of the same people who were asking for more rewards are the same people saying that the rewards aren’t good enough because we are getting them now instead of before
For 4 years, we always say “at least it’s a step in the right direction.” but we never reach the right destination. one step in the right direction, two steps back in the wrong direction. so we keep coping.
For 4 years, it’s always we’re getting there. *But we NEVER get there.*
It’s been 500y and they finally did it
I think giving us standard fates more generously will be a good thing since we get only 5 fates from Battlepass and 5 from monthly shop reset increasing it to 20 standard fates per patch will be a good thing
9:29 green screen jumpscare
A wonderful reaction from you, here, to the as- wonderful Genshin update.
Share your enthousiasm and positivity as to Genshin's changes in game and (seemingly) àttitude' towards the fanbase!
Thxxx for your thoughtful 'review', Vars ! ♡
I am mostly excited for the artifact selector at the moment. Although if they roll everything but crit its going to be such a bad feeling 😭. I have all the standard banner characters i want now (pulled Mona on that chronicaled wish and now i feel silly). But if they keep adding new standard banner 5* characters then getting one each year is really good for both old and new players.
Wait until bro finds out it takes a month plus just to use the artifact selector lol
Just remember that you need 4 to create a single artifact that might or might not ever roll the desired stats
@@Thedoorway123 Seems fine to me. Do the math, most FTP or low spenders are only getting a 5 star every other month or so at most. You can get every new 5 star a on set goblet with this system assuming your luck isn't super trash.
@matthewsarson6934 that's long dude other games give you multiple artifact selectors in just a few weeks
@@Thedoorway123 Something does not because bad just because unrelated games are more generous. Face you don't pick your game based on which one offers more free stuff.
The gacha is the least of my concerns in Genshin. FFS MAKE THE DOMAINS PRICIER AND GIVE US BETTER REWARDS. I don't wanna do the same domain 8 times.
Hoyo played this hand as long as they could, and used their other games to test these variations without messing with their flagship game before committing to any permanent changes.
Peak capitalism, basically.
Although some older and weaker 5 star units make sense to be in standard banner for us players, the legality of it kinda makes it really hard to happen... So what we, as a community, should ask/wish for IMO is buffing or even "reworking" some 4* kits into 5* units (just add, no take aways for legal reasons too). So no one would feel bad that they payed for something that used to be exclusive and as the standard banner is completely free now, the units we already have some constellations are also just okay for mihoyo as it shouldn't intervein with their revenue (as low as albedo, eula, klee and any other we think should be a part of wanderlust invocation).
For example: Add/give NINGGUANG a normal attack string animation and put some juice into her kit such as pushback enemies with rocks (somewhat like xianyun's) to emphasize Ning's defensive playstyle or even absorbing nearby crystalize shards (navia) to transform her CHARGED NA/ULTIMATE into pyro/cryo/electro/hydro especial geo "interactions" somewhat like vaporize, melt reactions either extra damage, effects and whatnot.
There are plenty of ways to strengthen various character's kit, but mainly underperforming ones that have a proheminent presence in the main story-line are the ideal candites for standard banner roster, such as Kayea, Lisa, Candance...
im happy we are getting optimistic. a lot of games i play have a playerbase who gave up on a game which affects the community a lot. im happy we are getting hope even though not much results yet. would be nice if they make switching characters is faster like hsr since playing different units feels so awkward since it takes so long to switch, and using the mini map while farming feels so weird. and the promo codes like they expire so fast, i couldnt claim them D:
now the The other dude is not around anymore and wei is back they are back to the roots and its great to see that.
Exactly
companies are not our friends, their number one priority is still making money... in hoyo's case it's through games. and this is their hope to get old players back and rake in more money from their declining game. thanks to genshin ive come to hate live service games 😭 i rly like genshin and its lore and characters but atp I'd rather just buy a full price game that's finished and doesn't feel like a chore LOL idk y'all don't need to glaze hoyo so much they literally don't gaf about you, they only care for your money
Hopefully Natlan will help Genshin reach the heights of Honkai Star Rail and Wuthering Waves and Zenless Zone Zero
Don't forget Zenless Zone Zero
I think increased movement options and more stamina will help to close the gap in joy of movement between Genshin and WuWa.
One is not like the others
@@Gnidel Look no further... THE QOL IN MOVEMENT IS ON THE CHARACTERS💀
@@Gnidel unfortunately,those stuff will be char exclusive in genshin
I'm elated with the increase in rewards and looking forward to the new region. As for the QoL changes personally I'm not banking all my hopes up on the Sanctifying Elixir. It sure is a great addition nonetheless but I bet it's an extremely scarce resource and even if we get two crit stats immediately it won't guarantee that all refinement goes to those 2. The things I'm most excited about would be the Weapon Banner upgrade. Now it's more achievable to get a signature weapon. It makes the banner a little more bearable. The other one would be the Free 5 star cause being Monaless for 4 years since release kinda sucks. 😂
honestly, im glad that we're getting these QoL changes now...but the fact that it took 4 years and the only real reason is bc competetion like wuwa and other new gacha games is also kinda sad to see. it shows how hoyo rly doesnt care abt what the players think and js want to keep milking money out of people. but i think its still not going to be enough...if hoyo wants to keep people playing and spending on genshin, then they rly need to start showing that they care. what still baffles me is how hsr is so much better yet hoyo wont implement those good features in genshin (reserve tb power, better recharge rates, more endgame, better weapon banner, etc.)
Yeah I feel like they should've done smth special every anniversary instead of like dumping it into 1 anniversary and the following anniversaries may remain dry (aside from the constant 5* selector). I also just think it's a bummer that the past anniversaries were dry but this particular date isn't. Although if this is actually where things get better for Genshin in terms of QOL then good for them.
@@shishiroro6351 yeah, obviously im happy to be getting actually nice QoL changes this anniversary, it js feels...forced. like hsr's first anniversary gave so many pulls and rewards, yet this is the first year in genshin where we get smth like a 5 star standard selecter, when hsr kinda has one alr and a lot of 4 star selectors. at least we're benefitting off wuwa existing 🤷♀
@@lvl73epicgamergurl yeah fair nuff. Only time will tell how the next updates will go from here
Wuwa did nothing it's the same dumb speculation like "Oh they just only now added new Endgame"
Wuwa just existing (because let's be honest It didn't do anything with the systems it copied) would mean any Gacha people have been calling the Killer would invoke the same response
Notice how none of them did its also dumb to scream Greedy. There a Company all of them are about profit and its more a statement that gambling chips and a new toy is more relevant
Then the actual game which notice that a lot of people say "I quit Genshin" but still seem propelled to watch and respond to its content
This is something they've been contemplating for a while but to be honest. I don't expect nuance from players
The people who had issues will still have issue because Genshin is still foremost a Narrative Game and certain people want it to be an MMO/Typical Gacha
And when there not thrown currency every patch or forced into the powercreep grind they'll go back to
The same nonsense hoping that
"Wuwa will force change" when it never did
@@MTF-Shadow WuWa glazers think they whole world revolves around them. WuWa is also a greedy game, otherwise it wound'nt be a gacha game. I guess you will always find some way to be mad instead of being happy that the game is improving no matter the reason behind it. Kuro games doesn't care about you either. Stop living in delusions.
As an old player who nearly bricked my account building a wide roster these changes actually are helpful in the hard long grind of topping off the many characters I have built to passable yet not fully "endgame" levels
I know that we got these changes but the fact it took this long to get them is crazy and for people who have all the standard characters it’s just like “O free glitter I guess”
yeah, especially when all the standart 5 stars have mid cons lol
@@sunso7022 exactly🤦🏾♂️
I for one am happy about it, been playing 3 years and only have c0 Jean. I want to get her to c4 eventually! I'm a Venti main and with c4 she can decrease anemo res.
@@niak8529 I can respect that but like for people who’s been playing forever or always lose the 50/50 it’s so useless
Iunno. Tighnari's C1 is actually solid.
For me, there is the obvious notion that these changes SHOULD have been implimented years ago (outside of the weird new wish thing that basically makes banners a 55/45 instead of a 50/50, which is good, but feels so insignificant that I have a hard time understanding why theyd bother at all. Again, new animation and more positive gacha prospects are always good, but its just weird).
But even if it should have reasonably done this sooner, its a pretty damn good that theyve started doing it at all
I'll split my opinion in the two media coverages: The livestream and the event where Dawei cried. The livestream: Was solid, it was the same old format that we always see with a little bit more of comedy we usually see on honkai star rail livestreams, the rewards are, for the long haul, good for the game, but there are some things to nitpick. Even though we get a 5-star selector, it is a 5-star selector from the standard banner. The game nowadays has enough characters for someone to be able to pick a limited character for free on the anniversary, instead of a 5-star from the standard banner. The amount of primogems, I'm not going to give my take on that because I haven't done the math to see if it's worth or not. The stamina though, I still think they could implement the system so we could run on stamina endlessly, UNLESS we're on battle/swimming/climbing, that way you can make stamina relevant without having to discard it completely. This livestream tried to cater things for all players and that's a bad thing. It looks like it tries to pull new players with new additions and drag old players with make-do rewards, but smart people can see through that.
The Dawei crying part though is something that is extremely unpleasant. People can take the side they want to, and that's absolutely okay if you believe that wasn't scripted but coming from real feelings. Professionalism dictates that those speeches shouldn't be allowed. It's a sob story from a multi-billionaire that heard his game (which by now we know it's not his favorite series) heard 'criticism'. I'm 100% sure there are people that went overboard and threatened them, as I'm also 100% sure there are people that gave valid criticism which wasn't adressed so far (emphasis on so far). But I really dislike a corporate member crying in public when he is doing something he allegedly loves but he doesn't know how to deal with the good/bad takes that his costumers give.
That's my opinion :)
He is still human regardless. Worse case it either it fake or he is a snowflake. Which would mean it still real but he need to except that not everyone is well professional in comments. He want people to like the game and hope Natlan is well received. Something people forget is that when Genshin was about to release, him and the team were also extremely nervous and worry if it would do well. So really see no different but hope that Cai has nothing to do with Genshin now.
14:26 is a total lie you can see how 4.8 had less primogems that older years, also look at 4.6 chest they just quit rewards to leave them in another update
did we really get good stuff from the devs?
1. capturing brilliance is just 5% wishing boost. basically we don’t have 50/50, but 55/45. That’s something, yes. But it really isn’t much.
2. sanctifying elixir. How often will they allow players to get 4 of these? You need 4 elixirs to craft one good artifact. I bet you it’s super rare and will still take a super long time to get the ideal artifact piece you want. (And real talk, once we level up that good artifact, subrolls will go mostly to flat HP and flat Def).
3. free 5*. Standard banner characters are mid (viable at best), but they’re generally outdated. Genshin giving players free outdated character is like receiving leftovers. Would be nice at least if Genshin added already a new 5* Standard character. But no, they’re giving us leftovers. fyi, HSR & WuWa give free LIMITED (NOT Standard) 5* characters that are actually high-tier characters. This genshin 5* selector thing should have happened already back in 1.x or 2.x updates. Not in 5.0
4. Weapon 5* fate reduced to 1. bruh, we should have had this since the beginning. Genshin devs bamboozled us for 3 past years with having to lose 2x before we get our guaranteed. Them reducing fate point to 1 should have been bare minimum YEARS ago. WuWa has no 5* weapon 50/50, and HSR has 75/25 or 70/30. How is Genshin better?
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thanks, but these aren’t really much. Genshin devs know how to trick players into believing they gave you a lot. But the truth is, they are just doing what they should have been doing years ago. Players didn’t get something really good out of the usual. We’re just getting bare minimum now after 4 years, and we’re supposed to be jumping for joy? lol. you have got to be kidding me. I’m no fool. I see past the bs of genshin devs.
btw, saveable artifact custom loadouts, when? Stop being bamboozled by these Genshin devs.
They said they will add more standard characters and most of the standard characters are good
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Great update and all but the fact that it took 4 years and 3 other competitors for them to start improving things just slightly knocks down my excitement for it.
Free 5 star selector is meh, good for new players, useless for veterans.
I have never wished on the weapon banner as an F2P player so can't say anything about the change to 1 fate point.
Anniversary rewards are good, no complaints there.
Sanctifying elixir is also good.
Capturing radiance is a very good addition, If you lose 50/50 your have another 10/90 to hope to win to get the featured 5 star.
That's all really, wish they gave us a free venti for us non-kazuha fans but can't keep asking for shi.
People are thanking wuwa but I think HSR and ZZZ are the main reason why genshin added so much
Genuine question: Why do people believe this?
@@PlanetDiablo16967 because they're disappointed ex-genshin players who make speculations out of their disappointment, yet people think it's true because they like to jump into the bandwagon to shit about GI with them, and Genshin is so popular with a lot of toxic fans, that's why.
@RealQuarlie Not direct but indirectly
@@PlanetDiablo16967 It took 4 years to get the bare minimum, think about the timing.
@plainsalt Genshin's only real competition has released in the form of WuWa, and several more really big non-Hoyo gachas are around the corner. Hoyo isn't making changes to Genshin so that it can better compete with their other games because if I stop playing to Genshin to play HSR then Hoyo doesn't really lose anything. As long as any money/time they would've gotten from me in one game is still going to another Hoyo game, it's a positive.
There's obviously some stuff that was changed because it worked in other games, like raising the maximum resin cap but attributing all the changes to Hoyo's other games and ignoring that Hoyo will soon no longer be competing alone in its niche market is silly. It's obvious that these changes are more geared towards keeping their players from going to play other non-hoyo games in the future.
I’ve been holding out on starting Genshin because I mostly care about the story and the long you wait the more you get to play through in one go. But this is definitely going to get me to start playing now.
It only took em 4 years to do exactly what ppl were hoping on the 1st anniversary. Cant say better late than never since a lot of players left already
This still won't bring me back to Genshin full time...I will only do the Archon Quests but after that... adios until Snezhnaya. All of this was simply things that should've been here since day 1.
Congrats to competition, Wuwa, and future genshin-like games such as Azur Promelia, Project Mugen and that Neverness-to-Anime Gta.
@@kuvjason7236 It's a step in the right direction, a very big change and it's very unlike hoyo to do this for a game like genshin, which hopefully gives a stronger light for the future. If they can continue on this path I'm sure a lot of people will return.
I think it's important to give credit where credit is due, they did good but yeah doesn't amount to a lifetime of bad, but at least it hopefully expresses a desire to do better (for players or due to competition, idk). Like mentioned in the stream as well, they're looking to be better at feedback and improvin more while acknowledging that they haven't done great, (someone mentioned dawei went on a trip to get opinions on genshin from around the world, no factcheck on that)
Congrats to WuWa? Lets just see if they keep delivering first. From May to June they had a staggering decrease in players, and while they are recently stable now, there numbers of active players dont hold a candle to Genshin het
Furthermore, Genshin players rates have not been affected by WuWa in the slightly, still having similar fluctuating before it's release.
Using WuWa to shit on Genshin doesn't do the image of WuWa as a game any good, and is in all honestly, a battle that WuWa is currently losing
@@joeyyoung5173 I love to hate on Hoyo as much as most people. But I feel like once again, people jinxed WuWa with the typical ''It will be the Genshin killer!!! This time it's true I swear!!!!''.
Something similar happens to ''Smash Bros killers''. They all end up flopping badly.
@@joeyyoung5173Think about it tho. Wuwa gave 1 early 5*, 1 choice pull 5* 1 mail 5*, and 1 limited 5*. Hsr gave 1 early 5*, and one choice 5* after 300 pulls (shit). Genshin's giving one after 4 fucking years. They're pressed over wuwa
love: free 5* and artifact synthesizer
ok-ish: +world level, more exploration rewards and events
most wanted: android controller support
Genshin listening❎Genshin scared of losing players✅
Doesn't matter
so true
Worst truth 👎
I'm very happy with these announcements really, heck even before this on the previous patches I have been noticing the QoLs and they have been quite appreciated, sadly it's probably still not gonna make me play Genshin as actively before simply because I feel like I'm so far behind that I couldn't muster up the energy to catch up, I still do login ocassionally on Abyss and Theatre resets simply because it's a short activity and it's the part of the game I enjoy the most.
This is the BARE minimum for a billion dollar company, but wtv.
I agree - it’s good to praise the folks making the product when they listen to the consumer. I think at this point, they’re more or less at the baseline compared to other large gatcha games from other teams at hoyo or their competitors.
If I were them, I’d push farther and make a new and desirable character from Fontaine and/or even Natlan on the standard banner. That’d excite new and old players alike. While it’d sacrifice some revenue, I think the excitement generated would bring in more.
1.0 Player here, all I want to say is that I CAN FINALLY GET JEAN THANK FUCK. Especially considering how good they are with Furina, it's been really irritating not having them (also the reason I haven't used my guarentee 5 star in HSR, I don't want to suffer this again)
These QoL improvements are AMAZING for 'medium-length' players, aka players that started from roughly 2.3-ish. Not just for new players. I started in 2.8 and these changes impact me positively in a huge way. I still have so many characters I want to raise and build (currently have probably around 20-30 characters either fully or 'functionally' built), and artifacts to grind, that Mora, monster drops and Experience materials are still an issue for me. Remember, I've been playing for just over 2 years now, pretty much daily. Free Standard character is great for me because I only lost my 50/50s a handful of times (twice to Mona, once to Dehya and once to Keqing), and I got a Tighnari twice and one Diluc through Standard Banner. I got my Jean through the Chronicles Wish in 4.5 because I love her as a character and wanted her for my Furina teams. People like me will now be able to get cons more reliably just because we love the characters. And then raise and build them much faster so we can use them. I am VERY happy with these changes.
Elixir is not the same as Self-Modeling Resin, there's a limit (of 1?) on how many pieces per artifact set you can craft in a "cycle" (patch? month?) and the elixir cost varies by slot (Flower/Feather = 1, Sands = 2, Goblet = 4, Circlet cost is not shown).
Crafting a custom relic with Self-Modeling Resin always costs 1 (plus 100 remains) no matter what slot and you're not limited on how many you can use at any time.
So artifact crafting with elixirs is actually more restrictive with the pickable substats merely existing to cushion said restrictions.
As someone who started playing Genshin because of the characters and lore, I really hope there is a way in the yearly 5 Star Selector to get 5 stars that are older, like Yae Miko, Albedo, and Tartaglia (Which thank you for telling us about the law in China about limited characters in 10:05). As for the lore department, I really hope after Natlan we can replay events that are lore heavy like they are Character Story Quest and grab event exclusive weapons and items, maybe even through the Imaginarium. They are going in the right direction, It's just sad HSR did a lot first and only in a few months than years
it's the bare minimum
it will take more than just one step in the right direction to impress me
oh look exploration will be more rewarding
finally...how many region are we gonna have to explore again ?
Natlan, Schneznaya (I never remember how to spell that one) and then what ?
Don't forget Khaenri'ah/Abyss along with potentially Celestia and other worlds outside of Teyvat. THis is only the Teyvat Chapter remember. We could always explore the Dark Sea outside of Teyvet boundaries.
Not if must stop Snezhnaya and all of the Fatui from their world domination first.
I’m glad that they’re bringing that five star selector, I had been playing since a couple months after release so almost four years essentially, and I was a whale, and despite all the 50/50’s I’ve lost, and all the standard wishes I’ve gotten, I don’t have a SINGLE Mona.
Unfortunately i think it’s a little too late for me to wanna invest in this game ever again, both time and money, but I’ll probably come back every year for the rewards haha
I hope Genshin keeps up the good updates.
And I hope all the gacha games (ZZZ, HSR, WUWA, and Genshin) can continue to push each other to improve, too.
the start of the video is spot on, i doubt people will come back unless there some major qol changes me included i doubt i'll come back to the game if it stays "the same" as it normally is
This is just the beginning. You can see at the face of that developer that this is a kind of "forgive us" move, look at him with his cute cards, this means that DEV has new directions from the top, and that means a lot more improvement for the game. Imaginarum is getting a work around, the story is popping off much harder in this region, the story events give more rewards, it's just an accelerated pace now.
I'm glad they're finally listening to feedback and are incorporating QOL, however, I still think it's too little, too late for me; until/if they improve the core gameplay heartiness, I don't think it'll be enough to get me back
cuz exploration is only so fun for as long as you're not bored, or until you've cleared everything; beyond that I don't think they've added enough to the central gameplay loop to pull me back in because it'd still be the same daily domain grinds with spiral abyss and the theatre sprinkled in every couple weeks; it might be with new characters, but the gameplay is the same as 1.0
seeing all these changes just makes me really bittersweet like "that's really nice, but why didn't you do it sooner"
Thank you WuWa!!!!
Only problem that still remains is the lack of meaningful progression of characters and new interesting gameplay systems..... :(
I guess making it easier to progress and make characters for the Theater which is progression is not enough for you. More will come, I'm sure of it
@@number1cheater272 well I've been playing for two years and sure many are in the same boat having no incentive to pull new characters or make stronger builds. Idk, I'm always hoping that they will add something more meaningful for long term players :(
this feels like them smoothing over the natlan drama by doing the BARE MINIMUM that hsr has had for a WHIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLEEEEEE. either way if they make iansan suck then at this point I give up
@@insertnamehere1398 what Natlan drama?
@@RaffoPhantommelanin
@@sein442 oh. That's not drama, that's just Twitter being stupid as it usually is.
implying hoyo gave a single shit about the “drama” is delusional bffr
I've been playing Genshin about 7 months now and with 5.0 I was gonna play up until I got Raiden Shogun and Zhongli and then put the game down for a bit...but with all the new QoL changes they're doing for the game as a newer player I'm very looking forward to playing more. Especially as I have grown to love the world of Teyvat and it's colorful characters.
I know many of you might still think that this is too little for you to have interest again, but I believe this is the changing point where they will continue to improve further with each upcoming version. I know 4 years is a long ass time for them to implement these changes but I'm glad they finally did it, because it's always better late than never. Now please stop making wars and appreciate what we are getting because we players are the real winners in these competitions.
This is some great news for genshin, especially old players.
On another note, a common way to bypass the chinese advertisement rules is to change it from a limited banner to a rate up banner, like that in afk journey. Here, the limited banner just become an increased chance to get a character not the only one.
Man Wuthering wave hitting hard they finally have competition and now know they need to make changes to retain players
@@jinosgameing7657 ZZZ and star rail too
Lol I forgot that exists. Dawei just left the office for a change and also saw doomposts
Oh that game that had an ass release and wasn't able to catch up revenue wise with Genshin's filler patches? Yeah Hoyoverse must've been quaking in their boots because of that
Only thing they hit hard is the bottom LMAO
@@alexandruandros1271 meat riding genshin is crazy work, go outside🙏
i'm an ex genshin player who stopped at 4.2-4.3 and honestly? I never thought Genshin would see such an improvement or at least a sign that they would be willing to improve and this is a very nice surprise. I don't think i will return and i doubt i will have the time to return playing as i once did when they improve enough for me to consider reinstalling, but i'm happy new and returning players will be able to have a more enjoyable experience.
Genshin’s only doing this because of competition, and I’m not talking about HSR and ZZZ.
The primary example is WuWa. They have
• better open world stamina system/traversal
• 5 star selector on release
• daily stamina storage system with patch 1.2
• free LIMITED 5 star (xiangli yao)
• multiple forms of endgame content (illusive realm & holos)
This is not to mention the many upcoming high quality open world gachas on par with genshin and wuwa that is set to release later this year. Better late than never hoyo.
I wish genshin increased the stamina bar outside of combat at least, I just got back today after not playing since feb and wuthering waves’ QoL with exploring has ruined my perception of genshin
Holos isn't endgame it is one and done. I could go into other things but wuwa is the most protected game...a "masterpiece" I won't bother
@@Balbaneth Exactly, I feel like people aren't even glazing Wuwa because it's genuinely a good game, but rather they are trying to make it some hyper competition to Genshin when it just isn't. Main reason I never played the game, the people who do this make the game seem worse because it constantly needs to be defended or compared to Genshin no matter what it does.
Wuwa is a great game with a lot of though in it, but Kuro's generosity was entirely out of desperation, they had to make up for their lack of initial quality and polish because if they game flopped they would be in massive trouble with ZZZ just around the corner and Genshin's summer region and new region updates coming. It was not the company being nice.
@@number1cheater272 it is a genuinely good game. But it feels like it hasn't once gotten out of open beta maybe in 3.0 it will feel like it actually is something. The music will finally be decent, the echo system won't feel like garbage etc etc etc. Again Wuwa is a masterpiece.
HOLY SHIT. This is amazing. That's a lot of good changes. Specially since we were so pessimistic they would change anything QoL AT ALL. And I really appreciate it cause I dropped off late Sumeru. I played a little Fontaine, mostly some underwater stuff, but that was it I mean compared to how much I played everywhere else, I've barely looked at Fontaine. I haven't played Genshin for months, whereas for two years or so I would play a lot every day or a couple days every single week. Idk if I'll play a lot again to that degree, but this is really encouraging that it might be worth getting back into in general.
might be my brain just in denial but about the addition of characters to a new type of standard banner, i don't think that's gonna happen and they're just gonna do a non limited release like tighnari and dehya 🤔
@VarsII at 6:20, why would you think that you are entitled to wish that this were sooner thn later?
Mihoyo genshin impact should've released this kind of mechanics on the game within their first year but they are too lazy to do so, the devs had a hard time copy pasting and reposting, recycling their content on another skin over and over again.
If anyone doesn't get this then your are too slow and too dumb to realize that you are holding on a game that you pretend to enjoy but not. Riding on massive copium that takes a huge amount of time growing instead of rotting withn the hame.
"But they implemented this and you should be grateful,"
They implemented this too late, 4th year playing on the same game that's been stale for 4 years. That is too much and too long for this kind of mechanics, it is not an improvement for the long time players that stayed and rotted with this game but rather an insult and they only proven that they could do this but chose to shit on us for four years.
This is not Hoyoverse listening to Feedback. This is Hoyoverse worried about Wuthering Waves and making changes to stay on top.
Idek why they care to stay on top or not 🤔 they have 3.. maybe 4 extremely popular games, they will never not be rich, but if them being desperate to stay on top means QoL for us, then good I guess
My guy, wuwa hyped banner cant event beat GI’s rerun banner in 2 dry patch, stop being delusional 😂
"Holllyyyy shit lord da wei ! They were almost able to beat nilou skin revenue with their most hyped banner ! We're DOOMED! QUICK , give the players an standard banner character!"
the world doesnt revolve around WuWa, genuinely stfu its getting annoying
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As a day 1 Genshin player who stopped playing after 3.0, this is a step in the right direction but it's still not enough for me to come back and play because the world in Genshin is large and after WuWa's traversal style it's really hard to try and run around and explore the world without getting frustrated with stamina depleting, slow climbing, no grapple hook ....etc and besides ascension materials still being locked to a certain day of the week sucks BIG time+ no resin overcap for when you can spend it on some days.
However, this is still a step in the right direction and if they budged after all these years to add so many QoLs, it means with more time and feedback they'll be willing to open up more QoLs and real massive changes. Or at least one could hope, right?
It’s nice but it’s definitely not enough to make people come back after 3 years of disappointment and especially with the natlan drama
Natlan drama isn't as bad as u think
@@lolidemon3163 still made a lot of people quit
It's funny people keep talking about wanting more POC's and yet in every single the popularity polls Iansan is dead last. It's almost like they don't really care at all and it was all for clout. lol
@@baguettez99 who’s lansan?(I quit the game and haven’t been paying attention to it much)
@@Ui_Raizen The girl who was showcased long ago for Natlan in the Teyvat Story Chapter preview. Tan loli
Still waiting for:
- artifact loadouts
- controller support on android
I'd trade the improved drop rates for either of those qol changes.
it will probably take another 4 year 😂
Dialogue hard skip button
From "GENSHIN COULD NEVER" to "GENSHIN COULD ALWAYS" good to see that the devs listened.
I think the right word should be "Genshin could now"
Genshin delivered!
"Genshin could after 4 years and after the market share being threatened by a competitor, finally start pressing a singular button to change the numbers."
More like "Genshin always could have but waited 4 years"
@@kuratse205 hey, better late than never
I'm actually curious about this upcoming artifact system. Imagine if it started with just the 2 substats you choose instead of the usual 3 or 4. That could be a small "we delivered but f- you nonetheless
damn genshin could never no more because of wuthering waves