Good job! Please keep on doing TOS videos! Although the content is still for quite early on, the way you explain is top tier! Could you tell me which class is your main character? What do you think is the best follow through after a QS 3? Could you tell me your opinion on those two builds: Archer 1 > QS 3 > Archer 2/3|Scout 1 > Musketeer (Full DEX) Archer 1 > QS 3 > Rogue 3 (Full STR)
Don't worry I got Total Warhammer out of my system, I'll be doing a bunch more ToS now ;) My main as it happens is also a QS. Personally I'm going for Archer-Quarrel-Quarrel-Quarrel-Fletcher-Fletcher-Cannoneer. Both of your builds sound pretty competent tbh. In the first one I would probably go for Archer3. Makes a lot of sense in a full DEX build. Out of the two I definitely know the first one works splendidly as I've already seen it played once :D The second one sounds interesting but I'm not sure how convincingly powerful Rogue is in PvE.
The second one I heard is for boss mainly as it has an absurd crit rate and dmg with full str and rogue. But it needs party to do so... So I'm a bit against it for it. I wanted an QS as it seems to be a good character to hunt for drops. I'm not fond of cannoneer, So I was trying something with musketeer. The only issue with it is that it's annoying to sit to fight... So I'm still searching for an archer build before starting mine :P Not sure abbout cannoneer though
it's definitely a question of taste. There's nothing wrong with Musketeer really. I chose Cannoneer over Musketeer because I'm from the EU and we do have pretty awful latency sometimes. Musketeer with all the weapon swapping can get a bit annoying with the latency. With Cannoneer I don't have to worry about that. Usefulness wise they are both about equal with cannoneer doing a bit more AoE damage and musketeer being better against bosses.
In these videos are you triple hitting something when you only shot one arrow auto attack? And would you ever recommend going Ranger 2, as for the most part I am solo playing with clearing mobs using barrage
I'm quite curious now about Schwartzer (SR) now. I've been doing fine putting lots of DEX to it, and about 97 STR to it lately. A few CON and SPR, too. But, I wonder if Schwartzer would be better with more STR than DEX...
Schwarzer Reiter seems to me like it would be better with STR, yeah because a lot of its skills are multiple smaller hits. which means the chance to get full benefit from DEX is even lower than usual(because each hit has individual crit chance), whereas STR gives its regular full contribution.
lol when I started playing I used full draw when the enemies where gathered together cause it sometimes causes damages to nearby enemeis to mh target and on oblique shot it was my favourite skill then come full draw : p but thanks for the tips it was verr helpful ^-^
What about gear? should I be wearing leather or plater? im lvl 35 right now and ppl are telling me plate some are saying leather for evasion but its bad whne you get a certain evasion lvl.
yes STR is fine for most builds. Unless you build around a skill that scales with DEX (like kneeling shot) you shouldn't focus on DEX. Adding some DEX is good though at high levels
In my case, I'm trying to build a Quarrel shooter C3, Sapper C2 and Cannoneer C1 focused on GvG. Should I spend points in STR or DEX? How can I know if the skill scales with STR or DEX?
after the update dex is better, u need like 700 crit rate to crit consistently at end game, so mostly dex and when u have enough crit u can get more str
maybe no brain question but... in later game, when I will choose scwarzer( will use pistols), will can I use this archer skills? I started play yesterday and I ddon't want do useless mistakes, thanks I'm, Archer and Ranger, 16 lvl.
Most of the Schwarzer Reiter skills requires BowandPistol which I think if the skill from previous rank doesn't require two-handed bow, it will be fine
You should get all ranks. If you're strapped for cash, you can skip a bunch of ranks of the 100% damage increase attributes until you have more money at higher levels. The ones that only have 2-10 ranks, get all them ranks ASAP. The eventual goal is definitely to have all attributes maxed for all the abilities you use regularly. So f.e. it's not a big deal if you don't have the money for all 100 ranks of Barrage: Enhance right away but eventually you do want all 100 of them =)
Yes I do believe you can but I need to warn you - Hunter is buggy in places and generally offers less strength than other options. Be sure it's what you really want.
NaDuKoN TnT sounds pretty decent. Personally I would probably get Ranger 3 instead of Archer 2 and Falconer 2 over Fletcher 2 might also be an idea because Sonic Strike is pretty badass (so Archer 1 Ranger 3 Fletcher 1 Falconer 2) but I don't think there's anything wrong with yours
For anyone who reads this guide in the future, please never take the swift step buff for party. It doesn't increase DEF it lowers it, even since iCBT2 this was an absolutely trash attribute to take, but while he briefly covers that it should be removed in parties, it should never be taken in the first place. There is no instance where you will ever actually use it to good effect as no other class is stacking enough evasion to make use of evasion over physical DEF except another archer (and even most archers won't now until they possibly change evasion/dex), and if they need it they can use it themselves. There was a lot of false information in here, that was one piece, but here's another piece which is that there is absolutely no reason TO take Quarrel Shooter's Shield Mastery, as it is only in effect if you are equipped with a [Shield] which quite frankly, you almost never should be. Early game at no point (since beta) has been hard enough to require a shield or where a shield would help, and late game if you're still using a crossbow you absolutely will not be using a shield, you'll either be using a Rogue's dagger, Schwarzer Reiter's Pistol, Cannoneer's Cannon, Hackapell's Sword or some other damage enhancing/class enabling item, otherwise you would be using a bow for it's higher damage values. At the point of this most likely an Arde Dagger or other damage increasing offhand even if you don't go one of those classes, but decide to use a crossbow for some reason. This is not something that has changed with a patch since this video was published, this has always been the case.
Yes you're still fine. Ease up on the STR a little bit maybe so that it becomes 65%/35% DEX/STR (with Archer 3 you want your DEX for Kneeling Shot) and what's your plan from here?
Mr.Roguec Wugushi is a decent enough choice. I would advise against rank 3 because the signature skill is a bit buggy and really doesn't do enough at high lvl. You're better off with 2 ranks Falconer, Schwarzer Reiter or getting Cannoneer in there.
CloakingDonkey so i shouldnt go some of the earlier classes? but what pros are there to go Archer3? i get the double shot which i think is quite cool, but is it worth it over hunter/ranger skills?
I'm not a huge fan of it. C2 provides some strong attributes and kneeling shot. Sure you get 10 points in Kneeling shot from C3 but twin arrow isn't all that great imo. There are just better choices. If you're really dedicated to a DEX build with something like Fletcher/Marksman at the end maaaaaaaayyyybeeeee? But even then I would probably prefer having Barrage.
that's too weird, i mean Oblique Shoot isnt good to max, because it will drain your SP rly Fast. Im currently A2 QS3 and i dont rly use it that much. If you want A3 is because you Want Twin Shoot skill or Max Swift Step skill or Max Multi shoot skill. these are the most important skills on Archer3.
Thank you for making such a detailed video ! Appreciate it *double thumbs up*
You're welcome, glad it was helpful =)
an awesome guide with great exlaination !!! thanks, really helpful
Very good as aways, congrats!!
Can you make a more recent guide please?
very useful video, thank you!
Good job! Please keep on doing TOS videos!
Although the content is still for quite early on, the way you explain is top tier!
Could you tell me which class is your main character?
What do you think is the best follow through after a QS 3?
Could you tell me your opinion on those two builds:
Archer 1 > QS 3 > Archer 2/3|Scout 1 > Musketeer (Full DEX)
Archer 1 > QS 3 > Rogue 3 (Full STR)
Don't worry I got Total Warhammer out of my system, I'll be doing a bunch more ToS now ;) My main as it happens is also a QS. Personally I'm going for Archer-Quarrel-Quarrel-Quarrel-Fletcher-Fletcher-Cannoneer. Both of your builds sound pretty competent tbh. In the first one I would probably go for Archer3. Makes a lot of sense in a full DEX build. Out of the two I definitely know the first one works splendidly as I've already seen it played once :D The second one sounds interesting but I'm not sure how convincingly powerful Rogue is in PvE.
The second one I heard is for boss mainly as it has an absurd crit rate and dmg with full str and rogue. But it needs party to do so... So I'm a bit against it for it. I wanted an QS as it seems to be a good character to hunt for drops. I'm not fond of cannoneer, So I was trying something with musketeer. The only issue with it is that it's annoying to sit to fight... So I'm still searching for an archer build before starting mine :P
Not sure abbout cannoneer though
it's definitely a question of taste. There's nothing wrong with Musketeer really. I chose Cannoneer over Musketeer because I'm from the EU and we do have pretty awful latency sometimes. Musketeer with all the weapon swapping can get a bit annoying with the latency. With Cannoneer I don't have to worry about that. Usefulness wise they are both about equal with cannoneer doing a bit more AoE damage and musketeer being better against bosses.
Does anyone know of an archer equipment guide? What gear to buy/craft/grind that benefits the player?
In these videos are you triple hitting something when you only shot one arrow auto attack? And would you ever recommend going Ranger 2, as for the most part I am solo playing with clearing mobs using barrage
Full draw is a mini 2 target link so at least 1 point is good and any archer should take it ( at least consider it)
I'm quite curious now about Schwartzer (SR) now. I've been doing fine putting lots of DEX to it, and about 97 STR to it lately. A few CON and SPR, too. But, I wonder if Schwartzer would be better with more STR than DEX...
Sorry there. Schwarzer*
Schwarzer Reiter seems to me like it would be better with STR, yeah because a lot of its skills are multiple smaller hits. which means the chance to get full benefit from DEX is even lower than usual(because each hit has individual crit chance), whereas STR gives its regular full contribution.
lol when I started playing I used full draw when the enemies where gathered together cause it sometimes causes damages to nearby enemeis to mh target and on oblique shot it was my favourite skill then come full draw : p but thanks for the tips it was verr helpful ^-^
What about gear? should I be wearing leather or plater? im lvl 35 right now and ppl are telling me plate some are saying leather for evasion but its bad whne you get a certain evasion lvl.
what about the stats? what should i go for? STR?
yes STR is fine for most builds. Unless you build around a skill that scales with DEX (like kneeling shot) you shouldn't focus on DEX. Adding some DEX is good though at high levels
In my case, I'm trying to build a Quarrel shooter C3, Sapper C2 and Cannoneer C1 focused on GvG. Should I spend points in STR or DEX? How can I know if the skill scales with STR or DEX?
after the update dex is better, u need like 700 crit rate to crit consistently at end game, so mostly dex and when u have enough crit u can get more str
maybe no brain question but... in later game, when I will choose scwarzer( will use pistols), will can I use this archer skills? I started play yesterday and I ddon't want do useless mistakes, thanks
I'm, Archer and Ranger, 16 lvl.
Most of the Schwarzer Reiter skills requires BowandPistol which I think if the skill from previous rank doesn't require two-handed bow, it will be fine
For the attributes should I lvl every attribute just to lvl 1? or how much should I invest? Full?
You should get all ranks. If you're strapped for cash, you can skip a bunch of ranks of the 100% damage increase attributes until you have more money at higher levels. The ones that only have 2-10 ranks, get all them ranks ASAP. The eventual goal is definitely to have all attributes maxed for all the abilities you use regularly. So f.e. it's not a big deal if you don't have the money for all 100 ranks of Barrage: Enhance right away but eventually you do want all 100 of them =)
CloakingDonkey ok thx :)
quick question can you use hunter skills with the falcon if took the falconer
Yes I do believe you can but I need to warn you - Hunter is buggy in places and generally offers less strength than other options. Be sure it's what you really want.
what about ranger 2?
is it good ?
i'm thinking about going (Archer2,Ranger2,Fletcher2,Falconer1)
What Do you think
NaDuKoN TnT sounds pretty decent. Personally I would probably get Ranger 3 instead of Archer 2 and Falconer 2 over Fletcher 2 might also be an idea because Sonic Strike is pretty badass (so Archer 1 Ranger 3 Fletcher 1 Falconer 2) but I don't think there's anything wrong with yours
thanks Bro,
i didn't expect you to replay ^^
Keep up the good work
For anyone who reads this guide in the future, please never take the swift step buff for party. It doesn't increase DEF it lowers it, even since iCBT2 this was an absolutely trash attribute to take, but while he briefly covers that it should be removed in parties, it should never be taken in the first place. There is no instance where you will ever actually use it to good effect as no other class is stacking enough evasion to make use of evasion over physical DEF except another archer (and even most archers won't now until they possibly change evasion/dex), and if they need it they can use it themselves.
There was a lot of false information in here, that was one piece, but here's another piece which is that there is absolutely no reason TO take Quarrel Shooter's Shield Mastery, as it is only in effect if you are equipped with a [Shield] which quite frankly, you almost never should be. Early game at no point (since beta) has been hard enough to require a shield or where a shield would help, and late game if you're still using a crossbow you absolutely will not be using a shield, you'll either be using a Rogue's dagger, Schwarzer Reiter's Pistol, Cannoneer's Cannon, Hackapell's Sword or some other damage enhancing/class enabling item, otherwise you would be using a bow for it's higher damage values. At the point of this most likely an Arde Dagger or other damage increasing offhand even if you don't go one of those classes, but decide to use a crossbow for some reason.
This is not something that has changed with a patch since this video was published, this has always been the case.
archer Wugushi need almost no dex or no dex at all, poison damage scales with your STR and fletcher need more str then dex.
yeah I know. That's why I said "SOME" builds can make good use of DEX =)
ok ^3^ my bad hahaha just putting some info in.
so am a new plaer and i went archer3, any hope for me?
oh and i have only put my status points on strenght and dex, so i have almost equal str and dex. any hope for me?
Yes you're still fine. Ease up on the STR a little bit maybe so that it becomes 65%/35% DEX/STR (with Archer 3 you want your DEX for Kneeling Shot) and what's your plan from here?
CloakingDonkey eh... i dont have any plans, havent done any research on the classes whatsoever, but now am appearantly a Wugushi
Mr.Roguec Wugushi is a decent enough choice. I would advise against rank 3 because the signature skill is a bit buggy and really doesn't do enough at high lvl. You're better off with 2 ranks Falconer, Schwarzer Reiter or getting Cannoneer in there.
CloakingDonkey so i shouldnt go some of the earlier classes? but what pros are there to go Archer3? i get the double shot which i think is quite cool, but is it worth it over hunter/ranger skills?
is archer c 3 good?
I'm not a huge fan of it. C2 provides some strong attributes and kneeling shot. Sure you get 10 points in Kneeling shot from C3 but twin arrow isn't all that great imo. There are just better choices. If you're really dedicated to a DEX build with something like Fletcher/Marksman at the end maaaaaaaayyyybeeeee? But even then I would probably prefer having Barrage.
i donr like range cuase 99 pourcent of archer are fking rangers so i want to do smth exept ranger
www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/p2nw8wrptk/ any advice is welcome
that's too weird, i mean Oblique Shoot isnt good to max, because it will drain your SP rly Fast.
Im currently A2 QS3 and i dont rly use it that much. If you want A3 is because you Want Twin Shoot skill or Max Swift Step skill or Max Multi shoot skill. these are the most important skills on Archer3.
forgot to mention Kneeling shoot, it's also a Nice skill on partys
is klaipeda a good server?:OO new to tree of savior
I dunno, I play on the EU server. I was talking about the starting towns.
oo aight
both NA servers at on the east coast so just pick one