Tree of Savior - Basic Swordsman Guide

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  • @fgoazuretc167
    @fgoazuretc167 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You used SOUND REASONING and LOGIC with EXAMPLES to save me from making the mistake of picking highlander. I TRULY THANK YOUR EFFORT IN MAKING THIS VIDEO!

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +bf4, eve online, titanfall , etc. Gamer You're welcome and thanks for the praise :D

  • @micahpbt9638
    @micahpbt9638 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool! Thanks for the in-depth guide! Can't wait for more!

  • @Vitormatosful
    @Vitormatosful 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dude, i would like to thank you for all that you are doing! This guides helps me a lot. Thank you so much!!

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Vitor Matos You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @redyakuza28
    @redyakuza28 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great guide! can't wait for the next classes :D

  • @danielcastillohenao6134
    @danielcastillohenao6134 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    men i really like your TOS content, i only have a question, do you still keep playing the game? it will be nice seeing more vds

  • @Cyoon417
    @Cyoon417 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a fairly indepth video, are you going to go even farther into other deep build such as main DPS swordsman or full tank build? I liked this, would love to see more

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes I will. I already have a build guide in the works.

    • @Cyoon417
      @Cyoon417 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great I look forward to it. Not quite sure which class to start and what looks good so these guides are extremely helpful.

  • @dunevenker
    @dunevenker 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Swash Buckling really is amazing for the aoe taunt and pulling everything to you, however, the bonus health it gives you is situational at best. I say this because if you spammed Swashbuckling all the time just to keep up the HP buff, you won't have the aoe taunt when you need it. Again, Swash Buckling is literally the #1 skill pick out of all second tier choices out of any of the available classes, but mostly for the aoe taunt and not the HP buff.
    As for the Peltasta skill "Guardian", it really is beneficial to have at all levels because with the upgrade "Guardian Evasion", which gives you a bonus of 12% to your Evasion, which, as you level up and get better gear, the more you get from it.
    Peltasta shield abilities, such as "Shield Guard", which gives you a 50% increase to defense, with no cooldown and an instant animation. You basically just stand there blocking. Speaking of blocking, "Shield Mastery: Block", which gives you a standard 25% block chance. Have to wear a shield, obviously.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +dunevenker most of the time whatever you taunt with SB will be dead by the time the cooldown is up and you'll be able to reuse it. At the higher levels you will definitely sometimes use it just for the HP buffs because of the spikey damage coming your way. You don't need to invest more than one point in Guardian to get Guardian: Evasion. Question though: Why do you repeat a bunch of stuff I said in the video?

    • @dunevenker
      @dunevenker 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      CloakingDonkey I wasn't repeating, I was being a bit more descriptive for anyone who wanted to know more. You mentioned these things, but didn't really go into much detail, especially since its obviously your/my number one class choice.
      I don't really disagree with anything you said, I am just giving a heads up to others who might be considering using your suggestions. The one thing I differ on is the HP buff and your emphasis on it, while it is useful, the aoe taunt portion is best thing about it. I am currently Swordsman>Peltasta>Hoplite>Hoplite>Hoplite>Doppelsoeldner, so I am speaking from personal experience. Spamming it just for the HP buff can really mess up your tanking.
      I like your videos, no need to be up in arms.

  • @DRAGONICA37
    @DRAGONICA37 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't like peltasta since I had to use a shield and i didn't like that I really wanted to go for a two handed sword but this makes me regret taking SM C2 for restrain but oh well right now I'm doing pretty ok.

  • @Vaampe
    @Vaampe 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ps dont grind at all pre demon prison if you want to be efficent. After demon prison and bee farm (if you need to grind them), do all the remaning quests until lv220 where they suddenly stop. Then its all group grind from there. good luck ! PS all swordsmen should get at least pelt1, both for their own sake as well as others.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree heartily with that one. Tenet Garden and the dungeon is gonna level you faster than just drudging through the quests.

    • @Vaampe
      @Vaampe 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dungeons, yes for sure ! I really dont think grinding early on is efficent, but it can be fun and relaxing still. I respectfully disagree back, and i thank you for the answer.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vampe Have you tried grinding in Tenet Garden?

    • @Vaampe
      @Vaampe 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah tried it for a while when i was new, its alright if you are behind for some reason to get a few lvls and if you have to !:) But its so early in the game that you level with the speed of light by questing anyway. I have played this game alot, i have one 280 and a few alts.

  • @asdfjkl03
    @asdfjkl03 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cartar Stroke does multiple hits and puts out so much darn damage early on that I've been one-shotting bosses up to lv55. I have no idea what you're on about with it sucking... xD;;It's like Multishot, but without the shot... I'm sure it'll get replaced in time but.. man... it's devastating when you use it right.

  • @7hello
    @7hello 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a swordsman rank 3 i smack up 3k dmg lvl 56 with double slash crits for 21sp per skill use ( with lvl 10 attribute +7% crit chance for double slash per att level) STR DEX build

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dan Krupskis Amazing. And you only had to invest 3 measly ranks on a bunch of useless crap to get 1 decent skill. ;)

    • @7hello
      @7hello 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +CloakingDonkey indeed. Game got so easy 5 hitting bosses. With minimal investment. Now,

    • @7hello
      @7hello 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +CloakingDonkey ... If only auto attacks could inflict bleeding. Wait.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dan Krupskis I talked about Swordsman C2 like a minute after I slammed Thrust... if you're not gonna watch the whole thing - Keep your whingy complaints to yourself.

    • @lt2064
      @lt2064 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dan Krupskis ohhh, level 56! Please teach us more master.

  • @deadpersimmon
    @deadpersimmon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure about Gung Ho? Seems to increase skill damage for me, need a little more testing to be sure.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      it does but it's not enough to make it worth the loss in defense. especially because every attribute point adds 1 physical damage and costs 1 defense... It just makes you too squishy and at some point 100-something attack just aren't that big a deal anymore.

  • @rogeliogdp6978
    @rogeliogdp6978 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CloakingDonkey i have a cuestion, can we stack gung ho and concentrate with other future selftbuffs and other players buffs?
    please answer me XD

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes you can but there is a strict hard cap on how many buffs you can have at the same time, which is why buffs like Gung Ho and Concentrate don't make the cut later, as other classes' buffs are WAY better.

    • @eekthenan
      @eekthenan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow, for real? buff limit? what was this game thinking?

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      eekthenan they were trying to go for group synergy as there's a class that increases the buff limit.

    • @eekthenan
      @eekthenan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i see. just after this video i saw your basic guide on clerics. Krivis, right? Daino enchantment. interesting, but at the same time, weird.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      eekthenan Oh SUUUPER weird :D I don't think it's a particularly good idea, they could have made people want to group in many other ways that wouldn't have been such a pain in the ass... I mean as a Swordsman f.e. you already want to be with a Cleric at all times anyway because of the healing. ;)

  • @charbajeena7452
    @charbajeena7452 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do basic cleric guide?

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Fajar Nf that will be the next one, yes.

  • @riktorGaming
    @riktorGaming 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the hype around tenet garden anyway?

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the area north of the statue there has a very large amount of monsters in a small area with one of the best respawn rates in the game. It's great for grinding.

    • @riktorGaming
      @riktorGaming 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the reply. Also, what yould you reocmmend @lvl75, between a golden falchion + arde or Flamini? (2h sword)

  • @vb6548
    @vb6548 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    is this build still viable?

  • @extant2420
    @extant2420 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I laugh every time u say doppelsöldner

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @extant2420
      @extant2420 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CloakingDonkey cause it sounds so german and ur speaking english the whole time :D

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ¿ E X T A N T ? heh gotta use my german roots whenever I can ;) Also I enjoy pronouncing things as correctly as possible. Got a video floating about where I sing japanese :P

    • @extant2420
      @extant2420 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      CloakingDonkey :D I also have fun pronuncing stuff as correctly as possible, and still it was so funny when u said doppelsöldner :D

  • @DaedalosC9
    @DaedalosC9 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never liked the fact Swashbuckling was exclusive of Peltasta... it forces all Swordsmen to take Peltasta at least once :S

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah it might be better suited as a Swordsman ability but that's just the cards we've been dealt.

    • @DaedalosC9
      @DaedalosC9 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      CloakingDonkey IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE AND LET THE PEOPLE BE HEARD !!!
      Also the TP system is ridiculous... man they soon will charge u for breathing !

  • @LorrydriversSon
    @LorrydriversSon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    despite the fact that this guide is probably relatively useful for beginners - i have to say there are a lot of inaccurate informations in the skill-section.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inaccurate information or opinions you disagree with?

    • @LorrydriversSon
      @LorrydriversSon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, you recommend putting 5 points into pain barrier while i wouldn't spend more than 1 point into it. that's ok. none of these options are right or wrong. just preference. so yeah, i disagree with your opinion here. but saying concentrate wont do anything for skills or thrust beeing completly useless with c1 swordman is just not correct.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      LorrydriversSon ok what exactly is good about Thrust without the bleeding effect? You shouldn't have any major gaps to fill with it, so why do we need it if everything else does more damage and it doesn't have any special effects?
      Concentrate is really kind of similar... when you have 4k or 5k attack, adding 100 or so for 9 hits isn't all that amazing and it's just another thing that costs SP.
      If you disagree, I'm totally fine with that and I don't mind having a mild discussion on the topic ^^ I just think it's unfair to say it's inaccurate or "not correct". Feel free to argue against it though ;)

    • @LorrydriversSon
      @LorrydriversSon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      just to make it clear: it was not my intention to start a "fight" or bash your guide. putting 1 point into thrust is really useful (more would be waste ofc) especially in the early stages of the game since it is basically another type of auto attack (no cooldown / pierce). the thing about concentrate is: i am not saying it is the most efficient skill but you shouldn't underestimate its use for multihit skills like stabbing or cyclone for example. these skills count as 1 hit from concentrate even if they are multihits but the bonus damage will apply to every instance of the skill. this fact makes concentrate a good choice to start a rotation.

  • @gypsy00
    @gypsy00 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what's the stats for peltasta? sorry new player :)

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need to be sorry ;) If you want to tank and go deeper into Peltasta/Rodelero, I would advise you to go at least 65/35 STR/CON. While leveling til around lvl 200 I would put more points in STR than CON, so that you do enough damage to progress without too much of a hitch, though as the CON will really only start to become really important at lvl 180-200+

    • @gypsy00
      @gypsy00 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +CloakingDonkey thank you so much for the reply. Is peltasta also a good class if i make it a hybrid one. Not just a tanker but also a damager. Because sometimes i prefer playing solo.
      I really enjoy watching your guides. Really helpful.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heya if you want to go more for a hybrid then I'd go for 1-2 ranks of Peltasta at the most and instead of Rodelero go Barbarian. For most tanking all you need is Swashbuckling and a decent HP pool. Doing damage generally needs a bjt more help in terms of abilities

    • @gypsy00
      @gypsy00 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks again :)

  • @timitugs1724
    @timitugs1724 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    tell how to reset points pls

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I was still playing you had to buy a skill reset potion from their cash shop. I don't know if they've made those tradable now or not.

  • @mrpineapple2938
    @mrpineapple2938 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    can i reset skill points

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes but not class choices

    • @jebulang
      @jebulang 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      how do you exactly reset skill points?

  • @joseurdaneta1578
    @joseurdaneta1578 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wizard please :)

  • @NumnutSify
    @NumnutSify 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is misleading. I am currently level 123: Swordsman 1>Highlander 1> Barbarian 2 with only 4 points in cartar stroke. Yet my carter stroke is my hardest hitting ability *even though* I have 5 points in seism, 8 in helm chopper, and 6 in cleave. I did not enhance (the up to 100 level enhance option) any of my abilities and only got the attributes that modify the way the ability works (cartar stroke remove knockback, cartar stroke collision damage, and cartar stroke increase knockback all maxed). This unenhanced-4 point cartar stroke 1 shots ~75% of the mobs at level 126 where as my seism only 1 shots ~20% of the mobs at level 126 (it leaves them with almost no hp though so I just auto attack once or twice).
    Your video is well thought out but I don't think you've tested out the abilities enough. Since we are talking in a PvE viewpoint, the wind up time for cartar stroke is negated by pain barrier; pop pain barrier, charge up cartar, then let 'er rip -> 6 mobs minimum instantly dead. So what happens when pain barrier is on cd? You're a swordsman, you have a dash, position yourself well and you will have no problems using cartar.
    My stats are as follows: 117 STR, 51 CON, 6 INT, 41 SPR, 51 DEX
    My gear is as follows: Riena Plate armor, Riena Plate leggings, Tomb Gauntlets, Shnayim Greaves, Saphi Necklace, Zachariel Bangle, Bearkaras Bracelet, and Greatsword. All of them are not enhanced since I get better ones every now and then. I currently have the Turn Plate Gauntlets/Greaves which will be an improvement but have to farm the mats.
    The reason why cartar stroke hits so damn hard is mainly due to the "remove knockback" attribute. This allows cartar stroke to unleash its full damage (4 hit strike) on *each* target where as seism only hits 3 times on *each* target. Not to mention seism does 50% less damage on the second hit and 60% less damage on the third hit (relative to the first hit). Cartar stroke does 10% less damage on second hit, 15% less on third, and 20% less on 4th (all relative to the first hit)...

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hmm alright I'll look into it. I will admit I haven't tried Highlander since beta. Didn't like it then and haven't heard anything positive about it on the forums since.

    • @NumnutSify
      @NumnutSify 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      CloakingDonkey I have noticed they changed some things with highlander from your video and the game as it is right now. One of the major changes was cross guard. Cross guard is no longer a buff and must be actively held down which makes you immobile and unable to attack or do anything. Think of Guard when using a shield and that's what you essentially have for 2H swords. Perhaps they changed cartar stroke too from beta.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm Interesting woooooow... that makes Cross Guard pretty awful...

    • @NumnutSify
      @NumnutSify 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      CloakingDonkey yeah unfortunately. I mean, it still does block a lot of physical attacks that mobs would throw at you (not magic damage of course) but I don't actively use it when just dealing with trash mobs. The only times I use Cross Guard is when I come across a pretty dangerous boss fight where I can't just face tank (I'm solo pretty much 90% of the time). I've come across around 5 bosses so far where I really needed to play safe and use Cross Guard to block certain abilities that would knock me back.
      However, I put 5 points in to it and got the attributes for cross guard to max so I pretty much block all physical damage. It's just very situational. One great example is when you hit lvl 117 and you start to come across mobs that just chain mini-stun/knockback you (chromadogs omg). If your pain barrier is on cd, cross guard is your next go to skill which can be a life saver since most of those cc are physical. The only 2 cc that you can't do anything about is sleep and some anti-attack fog(?) that the mobs use.

  • @zander3677
    @zander3677 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    H-how do you equip a 2 handed sword ;-;

    • @duckgoose9240
      @duckgoose9240 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zandead you need to be a highlander

  • @nickelliott5182
    @nickelliott5182 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck I chose highlander and maxed thrust kill me now.

  • @cedricvillanueva7853
    @cedricvillanueva7853 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I fucked up lol i picked up highlander.

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would that be apart from Doppelsöldner?

  • @adityakumar-qq7si
    @adityakumar-qq7si 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great just great i went highlander and now u tell me it sucks wow fk this game.

    • @ragiukas
      @ragiukas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +aditya kumar I didn't watch the video so I don't know what he says, but Highlander does not suck, neither does Peltasta, and even Swordsman circle 2 isn't too bad either. If you chose to go Highlander you should go Barbarian at rank 3, because it will make use of your 2H sword :) (Highlander is good because you get the 2H block ability)

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ragiukas No it definitely sucks for everything except very specific fringe cases. If you want to know why, watch the damn video =)

    • @adityakumar-qq7si
      @adityakumar-qq7si 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ragiukas well it dosent matter really coz the game is very bad in terms of other things that are not even just convinces but more like simple logical things example
      1st marlet place: i am k with just 1 spot but the silver retrieval after 48 hours is just dumb.
      2nd skill system: a game where there are so many classes no ability to do a skill reset once for free is like the most stupid thing, i get it they want to do the whole retention of players but this is the wrong way to do it.
      and i get ur point that the highlander class is not that bad but i am almost lvl 114 and i just cant seem to do anything in a good way it just feels lacking somehow, i love 2h swords but i regret it right now.
      3rd very bad optimization: i have a alienware 17 r3 and i get 37 fps max and around 6fps in town.
      4th a lot of restriction: the developers seem to think that restricting things like trading will stop spammers well dont know when they will learn that it just stops the normal ppl from enjoying the game, and if u dont believe me then go check out the other games that do the same thing the latest would be devillian who did the same thing and thought players would learn to live with it but guess what everyone left and now only the older players who invested cash in the game stay and if u think that a few hardcore players are enough to keep a game afloat then good luck to u sir and godspeed.

    • @ragiukas
      @ragiukas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +CloakingDonkey I did watch the video and I wasn't criticising you or anything, I just watched a few other videos which said Highlander was viable if you go Barbarian after that, because of the 2H block. Barbarian skills are the primary damage anyway. As for Peltasta's taunt, well it's useful, but not entirely necessary if you max out the Provoke attribute.
      P.S. I've never tried Highlander, I went for Swordsman C2 which was a mistake, I admit.

    • @ragiukas
      @ragiukas 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +aditya kumar It is possible to overcome most of the restrictions by saving up 500-600k silver and buying a Token, I'm lvl 97 currently and I have 280k silver, although I would have at least 400k if I didn't spend so much money on attributes (many were useless, my bad), so it isn't impossible to play, really.
      I agree about the optimization, my pc isn't bad but I get low fps in towns and often 1-2 sec delays on skills/talking to NPCs, but I just like this game so I'm overlooking these problems.

  • @jeffreyboisvert4518
    @jeffreyboisvert4518 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    this game seems really difficult for new players.. soo basically this game can't be fun if you want to play like you want to play, you gotta force a specialized choice...

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't say it can't be fun. I'm a bit of a min-maxer so to me, yes, a lot of choices aren't fun because they are statistically worse than others. If you care more about your abilities looking and feeling cool and all that, then you can make whatever... most can work. AoE is the biggest hindrance. If you play a character that doesn't have AoE - that's a real problem. So, Fencer, f.e. just isn't that great in PvE because they have no good AoE...

  • @gatall91
    @gatall91 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you don't like the game then y r u doing a video on it?

    • @CloakingDonkey
      @CloakingDonkey  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +GetRekt Gaming Where did I say this again?

    • @gatall91
      @gatall91 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +CloakingDonkey oh my bad I missed heard you ^^