Rolex vs Omega vs Tudor vs Breitling vs Seiko | The Best Dive Watch Ever

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  • @Lowdowndog
    @Lowdowndog ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Doesn’t matter the brand, quality or value the best dive watch is the one that you yourself have chosen and love and sits proudly on your wrist.

    • @kostasp1137
      @kostasp1137 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Couldn’t agree more

    • @johnmiller9953
      @johnmiller9953 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      snore off

    • @Trevor-z7b
      @Trevor-z7b ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah

    • @samnathan2709
      @samnathan2709 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What about the one that’s objectively the best?

    • @Raizoguy
      @Raizoguy ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct!!!

  • @Augustus_Imperator
    @Augustus_Imperator ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Let's be real here, Omega deserves at least an 8 in iconic and history, maybe 9 too, it's around at the olympics, it's on James Bond's wrist, it's the brand of the moonwatch and I've seen the seamaster 300 on people like Gordon Ramsay, it's not Rolex but it's no Tudor/Breitling either.

    • @pacocandano
      @pacocandano ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Also, a humble midsized quartz Omega SMP (which I own and love) is on Prince William’s wrist ever since Lady Di gave it to him as a teenager. The future King of England has worn and will continue wearing it for decades.

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rolex is the original Bond watch. Omega were 40 years late to the Bond party. Hamilton, Seiko and even Gruen have a longer history with Bond than Omega.

    • @Omega34685
      @Omega34685 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Daniel Craig would kick Connery’s ass and Craig wears Omega so THERE! 😂

    • @j.q.higgins2245
      @j.q.higgins2245 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Omega34685 Wasn't Craig the one for whom an Aston had to be converted to automatic transmission, not to mention his passion for life jackets? 😏

    • @shiraz1736
      @shiraz1736 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If there was form function the Omega wart gets a -3 and the slippery bezel another -3.

  • @larryp.450
    @larryp.450 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have purchased and used various Divers during my lifetime, starting with a Seiko 6309 I bought in '76 to take SCUBA lessons while in high school. In 1990, I purchased an Omega Seamaster 200 Pre-Bond and used it for quite some, until acquiring a Rolex Submariner in 2001. Along the way, I have purchased other Divers including a Certina, Vaer, and Lorus, but when I head out to for a long hike or go near water, I wear my trusted, rugged, and beloved Seiko.

  • @harleydavidson4139
    @harleydavidson4139 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I dive. I am not going to dive with a watch that cost more than my boat. Lets be realistic, I don't guess people that would pay Submariner $, dry suit dive in the Great lakes...Seiko is the best watch for those pursuits, it works fine, and I am not going cry over it getting damaged.

    • @eastbaystreet1242
      @eastbaystreet1242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree. For a day on Lake Michigan I take my little buddy Arnie. For dinner that night I may wear some man-bling in my Bluesy, which apparently also confirms my Boomer-ness. Cry me a river. I could look at the blue on that dial for days. Work as hard as I have and buy what you want. But I do love my Seikos where applicable (task/use case).

    • @Vate13
      @Vate13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Casio

  • @Sirleopard666
    @Sirleopard666 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think is necessary to include a column named, "will you dare to use it in real field conditions?" . Rolex 0, Seiko 20

  • @seanhickling7340
    @seanhickling7340 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Definitely the Omega. The sub is definitely not value it's so overpriced! Even at retail price it's 5k too much.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why? Have you ever taken the time to handle one closely? The engineering, finishing and overall feel are impeccable. I love my Seamaster 300, but it feels nowhere near as well-made as my sub. The price difference is directly apparent when you view them next to each other.

  • @tartari13
    @tartari13 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I'm a diver. I own an Oris Aquis Depth gauge. I was thrilled to find out that, despite buying it because I loved the" uncomplicated" complication, it turned out to be an ACTUAL useful and important feature during my recent dives. Sometimes you don't dive very deep, some schools do not offer a computer as part of the rental gear so you only have the PSI gauge and need to keep track of your bottom diving times. Yes you can buy a computer for a fraction of the cost and get much more accuracy but, for recreational diving, that's just another thing to remember to pack. Keep it safe and simple with analog! Oris all the way!

  • @jacobjones6678
    @jacobjones6678 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Blancpain Fifty Fathoms is my favorite regardless of cost, my dream dive watch, I hope they come out with a standard model in 42mm or better yet in 40mm.

    • @juniorjohnson5961
      @juniorjohnson5961 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agree 40mm no date & I'm in 🎉

    • @jkorengo
      @jkorengo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@juniorjohnson5961 I will keep commenting this on their instagram page every time they release some stupid new limited edition until they eventually cave in

    • @fahadkhan-db6bh
      @fahadkhan-db6bh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jkorengo many have tried before, stubborn old folks at Le Brassus I’m afraid 😄
      But hey keep at it, with you 100%

    • @lcowboy8918
      @lcowboy8918 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too, but they just keep missing the mark and making the same mistakes over and over again. No one wants a 46mm dive watch. If they made their large watches in 40mm they would sell them all day long.

    • @jacobjones6678
      @jacobjones6678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to start hitting the gym to get wrists like Sylvester Stallone. The Fifty Fathoms lifestyle.

  • @geishasha
    @geishasha ปีที่แล้ว +18

    'Usefulness when diving' cruelly overlooked.

    • @Les_Grossman
      @Les_Grossman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dont think so.. I am sure everybody diving these days uses a dive computer anyways - at least most diver I know do 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @johnrand9799
    @johnrand9799 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    As a professional diver, if i was choosing a watch to take diving I would pick the Seiko. I would have loved to see Doxa and Blancpain included in the rating. (Doxa would have scored 10 in Iconic, street cred and History - Cheers!

    • @cos-9113
      @cos-9113 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, how do you even think of including Breitling and leave out Doxa (and Blancpain)? Breitling would be one of the last added to a dive watch list.

    • @jjsierraalta
      @jjsierraalta ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree! Doxa300

    • @kaseycarpenter73
      @kaseycarpenter73 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Blancpain for the win

    • @glennet9613
      @glennet9613 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@kaseycarpenter73 Old saying, if you want to impress the barman buy a Rolex, if you want to impress the dive master buy a Seiko.

    • @kaseycarpenter73
      @kaseycarpenter73 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@glennet9613 Yes. My first dive watch, when I was a kid was a Casio AMW 320R-9EV - wore it and dived it to death in Belize in the 90's. First watch I ever really loved.

  • @chgofirefighter
    @chgofirefighter ปีที่แล้ว +25

    IMO Omega is king, why? It's available, it does not cost you an arm and a leg, iconic, beautifully made, quality is an outstanding, awesome mechanism, it's truly a fantastic watch. I have Tudors, Omegas, Panerai, Oris, and a few other mechanical watches and to me, Omega outshines all of my watches with a close second to my Tudor which people always ask me what am I wearing and they're surprised that it's not a Rolex...

    • @TerraThink
      @TerraThink ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omega is great. Just have a design that feels a bit too modern to me as a Tudor-fan :)

    • @chgofirefighter
      @chgofirefighter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TerraThink love my Omega & Tudor’s….

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I’d happily wear any of those watches, but I can’t think of any cooler watch than that Seamaster 300 Professional. The scalloped bezel is so unique, the laser engraved dial is eye catching, the hands are perfect, and it’s a 300m diver with a sapphire case back which is super impressive in itself. Add the Bond connection, and the fact that it’s half the price of the Sub… The only weakness is that bracelet; it’s very 90’s looking. If one day I ever do something worth really rewarding myself for, i’ll buy the Seamaster.

    • @Scott.not.Scotty
      @Scott.not.Scotty ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i just picked up the seamaster 300m with a white dial and black rubber strap and its amazing. i have small wrists and its comfortable and stylish and even more stunning in person. i would absolutely recommend im still in awe.

    • @balestinian
      @balestinian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think your perfectly right about that bracelet, it's the cheapest feeling part on that watch, or else it woulda been perfect

    • @SonOvaSon
      @SonOvaSon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omega has a stainless steel Milanese bracelet for it as a hidden option, it’s pretty pricey though and the deployment clasp on it is pretty thick but it is the best looking option IMO

    • @Thecrispykid
      @Thecrispykid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take the plunge and pay for it over a year if you can’t afford it right now. You won’t regret it. I own everyone of these accept the submariner. But I have a Pelagos. But when I get the call I will be marching right down there to pick it up.

    • @teecchnoboy
      @teecchnoboy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got a 2020 planet ocean much better than a regular 300m seamaster better quality much better bracelet and 8900 calibre movement

  • @garyoshea2171
    @garyoshea2171 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wear my 25 year old Seamaster every day I’m a tradesman and it gets a hammering, only serviced it twice yet still keeps perfect time.

  • @villemuilu5663
    @villemuilu5663 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I think the Seamaster deserves to be higher in the score.

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah. It has a tacky design and was lucky to get a quality score higher than the sub which just isn’t true if you have owned both.

    • @villemuilu5663
      @villemuilu5663 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@explorerjlc1743 You must be joking

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@villemuilu5663 have you had both ?... also, the Sub's design is more timeless. The Seamaster line's design has changed so much throughout Omega's history. The SMP design language looks like it's aging poorly again. However, I would give credit to the PO. That watch retains Omegas DNA better and is a watch I regret selling. Would be keen on getting a future model that is hopefully thinner.

    • @villemuilu5663
      @villemuilu5663 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No i don't have submariner. That's because I really don't want to pay nearly 14,000 euros for a basic stainless steel submariner. For comparison, I paid 3900 euros for my Omega Seamaster in 2019.

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@villemuilu5663 yeah. Well if you get one you will know what I’m talking about.

  • @MeestroDavid
    @MeestroDavid ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I'd have loved to see Seiko represented by one of their higher-quality divers (Marine Masters, a 62MAS from the SLA-line, etc) that are still more affordable than anything on the list save for the Tudor, and easily equal or best the quality of anything else there.

    • @TheSugarshane78
      @TheSugarshane78 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They did say "wild card," and the value aspect + history of the original Seiko Diver makes for a tough combination to beat. That said, I'd have almost rather seen the Propex LX go up against watches in a similar price point, but with a Spring Drive.

    • @urbannomad8126
      @urbannomad8126 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I own a sub 40mm, a sub date 41mm, the same omega, the same seiko but with grey dial and an SLA055… the sla is my favorite to wear.

    • @LegendaryGauntlet
      @LegendaryGauntlet ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would also have included the Seiko Marine Master, probably in SLA version in order to match the price range of other watches in this comparison. The case is exceptional and SLA movement holds up against that competition.

    • @MeestroDavid
      @MeestroDavid ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@urbannomad8126 Likewise--I have an SLA043 and it's by far the most versatile (and therefore more worn) watch I have. The dial and case finishing is well beyond anything on this list, the "ever-brilliant steel" seems to be unscratchable, the design is classic, and at 39mm, it's meaty but compact. It's far less expensive than the Rolex, Omega, and Breitling but hand-finished to a higher standard than any of them, so the value is extraordinary. And I get that "street cred" is totally subjective, but Rolex and Omega are such common mainstream picks for anyone looking to buy a luxury watch-whether they are enthusiasts or just looking to strap a status symbol on their wrists-that I'd always give the credibility nod to the person rocking the watch that quietly communicates its value to the owner and other passionate watch-nerds instead of merely broadcasting its price to strangers.

    • @Bobby-fj8mk
      @Bobby-fj8mk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a Seiko 200m Divers watch with day and date.
      It was always going to be the best value for money.
      I don't see why a Rolex would work any better.

  • @SIZZO76
    @SIZZO76 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Omega SEAMASTER is a iconic 🔥

  • @BryanO92
    @BryanO92 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're killing me. A $12,000 watch is rated 7 for value. I mean the residuals are good at the moment at least, but it's *$12,000*. For not much more, you could get a Lange!

  • @pacheaco727
    @pacheaco727 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Would love to see this for other categories. Field watch, chrono, etc.

    • @alwayspooh1588
      @alwayspooh1588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea. For field, it has to be the Hamilton Khaki Field. For the Chronograph, hmmm, I am not sure. Daytona maybe?

  • @akdmkjeanius662
    @akdmkjeanius662 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Would love to see this in other watch categories! You could also do this as a bracket, and put several other iconic watches head-to-head and then have a matchup of all of the winners in an ultimate showdown. People go crazy over brackets and tiers! Plus it gives you the ability to give more opinions about other watches that don't come up in everyday conversations or can even be lumped into price categories. Rolex will trump Doxa, Cristopher Ward, Oris, etc., but different niche markets offer more realistic pieces that we can actually acquire

  • @ivandean1
    @ivandean1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Doxa and Blacpain are missing. Much better fit than Breitling or to certain extent Tudor (cheaper Rolex). Have Seiko diver since mid late 80s (with over 300 dives) and it still works great. Yes, everyone wants Rolex, but for diving, Seiko or Doxa any day.

  • @kevinhan721
    @kevinhan721 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    LOVE this ranking content! Can learn so much about different watches and perspectives in a scale rather than just listening talking for hours. Please do more of this in racing watches or dress watches and other watch categories as well!

  • @Chrissepisje
    @Chrissepisje ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the sarcasm. Nicely done. Firstly, if this had been a Seiko 6105-8000 or 8110, it would have scored higher in both history and in terms of Street cred.
    Secondly, the best tool watch is one that I can get, can afford, one I am not afraid to wear, one that won't get knicked and one that will take the abuse. That could be an EcoZilla, an SKX, an Uemura, a Mako, an Arnie, a Sumo, a Fugu, a Barnacle, a Ray, a Turtle, a 62MAS, an Aqualand, an Orca, or any Tuna, be it Darth, Emperor, Baby, or a regular one.
    In short, the best dive watches are the domain of Citizen, Seiko, Orient and, if you're strapped for cash, a Casio Duro. All the rest are more for the pose than the ride. You give them too much Street cred. Collector's cred, Investor's creed and Street cred are vastly different things, you see.

  • @mickd4610
    @mickd4610 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Diver watches are the best! I love my Omega PO. The best thing about all dive watches are that they are over engineered and solid.

  • @Mr_Shelby2
    @Mr_Shelby2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You could turn it into a series. Great concept. Nice video.

  • @bber45
    @bber45 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Agree. Missing the 50 Fathoms. Ultimate bad ass diver. But, I would swap Rolex Sub and Omega Seamaster places. When the 93/94 Seamaster came out it had a milled clasp and the solid/milled tank tread bracelet. The sub at the time (which I owned) was a sheet metal clasp and hollow end links. It was garbage compared to the seamaster and made rolex change their bracelet to what we know and love today. That be accounted for in the scores and history.

  • @1996Egr
    @1996Egr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Concept with the scoring - Next up - Best Chronograph, Best Pilot, Best GMT

  • @Mmmmilo
    @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’ve got several dive watches, and they all have certain appeal, but my 124060 Submariner is still the absolute epitome. It looks good with EVERYTHING. It’s built like a tank. The oyster bracelet is iconic. Every time I slip it on, I get a big smile on my face.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree

    • @whatsgoodmyguy4391
      @whatsgoodmyguy4391 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate bracelets...I'd rather have the option to go with a rubber strap much lighter and more comfortable.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@whatsgoodmyguy4391 so buy a rubber strap, easy fix 👍

    • @whatsgoodmyguy4391
      @whatsgoodmyguy4391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mmmmilo Lol. Yeah except you can't just put a rubber strap on a Rolex chief.

    • @4liter
      @4liter ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 126610LV and the SM300 on the rubber. The perfect diver pair IMO. Seamaster bracelets are 🗑️ very true that the modern oyster bracelet is absolutely unbeatable.

  • @blueducst4
    @blueducst4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The sole reason I chose the SuperOcean over the Tudor and Omega is the sizes available. My wrist is quite large. The 46mm SuperOcean on my wrist, looks like a 41mm on most wrists. This along with the relatively thin case compared to other watches in this size range made it perfect for me. Being able to get 42, 44, and 46 is a huge bonus only available with the Breitling.

    • @javahaxxor
      @javahaxxor ปีที่แล้ว

      The Superocean is a really nice one, even the old one

    • @robertposteschild2353
      @robertposteschild2353 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javahaxxor superocean is overpriced as fuck

    • @yhakult
      @yhakult ปีที่แล้ว

      How big is your wrist? I really like the omega but my wrists are 8 inches

    • @blueducst4
      @blueducst4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yhakult my wrist is 8-3/4”.

  • @carlmullender2941
    @carlmullender2941 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm sitting here with a Seiko SPB 143 on my wrist so I am biased, it would have been nice to include "diveability" into your categories, as in would you dive with it, how is the strap under water, can you move th ebezel with cold fingers etc ! Otherwise, brilliant concept , hope you can do more categories 🙂

  • @nullifye7816
    @nullifye7816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the look of the Breitling more than I thought. The square hand accent and the internal timer bezel really tie it all together.

  • @3082103
    @3082103 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    you are forgetting that Omega was the first Royal Navy proper diver watch with the 165.024 (1967-1970) then they used the 5513/17 Rolex (1971-1974) after the Omega. And Rolex was asked to do sword hands and fully graduated bezel like the Omega. so Omega should get a 10 in History, and 8 in street cred!

    • @Doggo-frencton
      @Doggo-frencton ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bring that street cred down to a 6 for selling a plastic watch

    • @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
      @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Doggo-frencton 😂😂

    • @peterdoubleyouz
      @peterdoubleyouz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They released a plastic overpriced watch which sold out immediately. Sounds like pretty high cred to me...

    • @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
      @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterdoubleyouz super great plastic pieces because they sold ?

    • @ES-tr5no
      @ES-tr5no ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How make Omega a 10 because they have never had to buy up their suppliers to call themselves a watchmaker.

  • @maltrhythm105
    @maltrhythm105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Choosing a dive watch without mentioning a Pelagos that has the best lume and bracelet on the market? Big minus to you.

  • @franciscos.3671
    @franciscos.3671 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Surprisely for me I vote for Seiko

  • @man16812
    @man16812 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omega SMP 300 for me. Beautiful and tough as hell.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

    • @TheBrah808
      @TheBrah808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Metas is life

    • @man16812
      @man16812 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBrah808 Master Chronometer!

  • @jockdodson9093
    @jockdodson9093 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I do love the modern Seamaster but, the 1957 Seamaster is not the same as the Seamaster 300 you are showing here. Great content as always gentlemen.

  • @robitobi9740
    @robitobi9740 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omega as iconic absolutely 9 and quality 9 too especially vs Breitling . History of Omega as diver is longer than Rolex ,maybe Seamaster is not but Omega as Diver it is . Value 1 point higher!!!

  • @billspruce8368
    @billspruce8368 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think this order is generally correct, but you have short-changed Omega a couple points... 1 on street cred and 1 on iconic... still second but it should be more than 1-point ahead of seiko.

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omega lost any street cred it had with its cringey 007 marketing.

  • @nickbrooker1411
    @nickbrooker1411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a diver.....the Pelagos 42 beats them all on just about everything from legibility, depth, bracelet, clasp, He Valve design and most importantly value!

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not a fair competition, you should have put the grand Seiko dive watch which is in the same brackets.

  • @petee1968
    @petee1968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a recreational scuba diver, I have an Omega Seamaster Chronograph that I had years before I was interested in watches. That thing is heavy, the bezel is difficult to operate with wet hands and the bracelet is not sufficiently adjustable even with the wetsuit extension. But for years it was my only dive watch and it’s been on well over 200 dives and it bears the scars and scratches with aplomb.
    Nowadays I wear a dive computer, but I also wear a Seiko Kinetic PADI GMT Diver SUN065P1. It’s also a beast, but it’s basically indestructible and I know I depend on it as a backup. It also wears a rubber strap, which is the only strap I wear diving these days. The only other watch I occasionally wear diving is an orange dialled DOXA, because an orange dial is highly legible underwater, and because DOXA’s adjustable bracelet is leagues ahead of everything else.

  • @raycollington4310
    @raycollington4310 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I never wear my Submariner anymore. The whole Rolex marketing fiasco and risk of theft, has somewhat made me embarrassed to be associated with them.
    Good bit of 🎉 this one, thank you.

    • @alexzim79
      @alexzim79 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm with you. I never wear my Submariner either. But that's mostly due to the fact that I don't own one :'(...

    • @justmitko6679
      @justmitko6679 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am afraid to wear Rolex too.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always struggle to believe these types of comments. “Marketing fiasco”? What are you even talking about?

    • @raycollington4310
      @raycollington4310 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mmmmilo I guess I'm referring to people I know who have so-called special relationships with Rolex AD's and are able to continually buy sort after models, when the guy off the street who would like to buy his first Rolex is given the cold shoulder and clearly not welcome.
      You've lucky if you live in a part of the world where this practice does not occur.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@raycollington4310 that’s… that’s just how luxury works. Literally everywhere. Loyal customers are prioritized. Are you also going to call frequent flyer programs “marketing fiascos”?

  • @MS-sy8ls
    @MS-sy8ls ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video. I’m a huge dive watch fan!
    It’s all personal opinion, but for me the Omega Planet Ocean is far far superior to the standard Seamaster.
    Great vid - keep it up!

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The planet ocean wears so big, though! I don’t love the bracelet on my Seamaster, but the watch itself is a stunner. My ideal Seamaster would have the PO bracelet.

    • @michaelg8258
      @michaelg8258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. And as for wearability, the 39.5mm PO is perfect on my 17cm/6.75in wrist. Nice heft, but in the best possible way.

  • @paulgreen3270
    @paulgreen3270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Andrew and Tom you guys never fail to make me chuckle! Good work as per usual!!

  • @justplainlawr
    @justplainlawr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Add a negative score column for Boringness and then re-rank and I think you Omega and Breitling leapfrog the ones ahead of them. The value column based on RRP vs market price… I can’t say is properly evaluated

  • @charleschaimkohl
    @charleschaimkohl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should've had a category design

  • @geetarz1
    @geetarz1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Growing up reading the James Bond books, Rolex was the watch I wanted. When I was in a position to finally buy a new Submariner (some years ago, when you actually could), it was a case of don’t meet your heroes ☹️ Ended up walking out with a bi-metal Wimbledon Datejust II - the Submariner was too small and too uncomfortable. After finally getting one on my wrist, I had no idea what the fuss was about

  • @clintonshiells3095
    @clintonshiells3095 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would have been perhaps more interesting to compare one of the Seiko SLA diver models which rival GS finishing and use unregulated, undecorated GS movements, but are super appealing to us Seiko diehard fans

  • @j.q.higgins2245
    @j.q.higgins2245 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When it comes to history and iconicness, we shouldn't ignore the fact that both, the Sub and the Tudor, as well as the Seiko, have still remained pretty much true to their initial designs, while the Seamaster 300 and the Super Ocean have changed beyond recognition - which, I think, is a pity and a bit like comparing a Land Rover Defender to the New Mini.

    • @truthserum9157
      @truthserum9157 ปีที่แล้ว

      I couldn’t disagree with you more, it’s about innovation not stagnation, the end results and quality is all that matters, just look at our fighter jets, none of them look like ones from 60’s or 70’s.

  • @MKGamingInvesting
    @MKGamingInvesting ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro Omega Seamaster History or iconic has to be higher

  • @billcore6295
    @billcore6295 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think the seamaster has a 9 on street credibility, history, and value. 😊 Rolex is not a 10 on iconic but 8 in my opinion. Omega had dive like watch in 1932

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You think the most iconic and recognizable dive watch ever made doesn’t deserve a 10 on the “iconic” scale? That’s some interesting logic right there 😂

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MmmmiloOmega fanboys just butthurt

  • @peipeitan7557
    @peipeitan7557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Breitling's SuperOcean 36mm.

  • @Th3m4dn3ss
    @Th3m4dn3ss ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You missed a category, do divers actually dive with it that would change the score dramatically

    • @garyjohn1956
      @garyjohn1956 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t agree more. I don’t dive but have friends that do and they wear wrist computers not watches with movable bezels and escape valves. Love dive watches, have a BB and Seiko and more, they’re great in the pool while on holiday.

  • @vyrv
    @vyrv ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I Personally think the Seiko SPB143 is more iconic than the Breitling Super Ocean but other than that, spot on with everything. Loved the comparisons

  • @chriso5963
    @chriso5963 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I laughed throughout the whole video. Thanks, Andrew and Tom, I always enjoy your videos. Maybe you could do more videos like this with GMTs and other categories.

  • @Kermit26297
    @Kermit26297 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fun video. You guys are great. I’ve recently been into Breitling (picking up the Superocean Heritage a few weeks ago) so it’s no surprise that the Superocean would have been at the top of my list. The others are similar in design, which isn’t necessarily bad as it’s an iconic dive watch design, but I really like how the Superocean took a different route. And yea, the colors scream surfing and California. 🏄

    • @Hectic1991
      @Hectic1991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel that if they'd picked the heritage model it would have scored much higher.

    • @Kermit26297
      @Kermit26297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hectic1991 Yeah they definitely handicapped that pick!

    • @nash9625
      @nash9625 ปีที่แล้ว

      How has your Superocean been treating you? I have to admit they've been growing on me, probably Kelly Slater's fault, but saw some less than stellar accuracy reports previously.

    • @Kermit26297
      @Kermit26297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nash9625 I’ve had it for exactly three weeks and the time is, to the minute, aligned with my Apple Watch. Thus, accuracy is spot-on. And two days ago a guy stopped me in the store and asked what watch I was wearing and went on to say how beautiful it was. :) That doesn’t happens too often no matter which watch you’re wearing. I’ve worn it every day and have absolutely no regrets. Highly recommended. 👍🏼

    • @nash9625
      @nash9625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kermit26297 nice, yeah their play to surfer marketing totally worked on me. That and I don't see them very often

  • @guggyp
    @guggyp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a retired flight test engineer I can tell you Breitlings strength is in Aviation. Many of the Naval and Marine Aviators I worked with wore Breitling
    They sure didn’t wear Rolex GMTs
    ( and I’m a Rolex owner)

  • @roamready9732
    @roamready9732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mentioned the Blancpain in the same breath as the Sub and yet it didn't make the list? But I do love a good piece of satire, so well done gents.

  • @SomeOneOneOne
    @SomeOneOneOne ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why 62MAS? I think mm300 was more of a competitior to Rowleks...

  • @paulsymonds820
    @paulsymonds820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Erm….in my opinion the Seiko doesn’t compare to the Breitling or Tudor but totally agree that the Rolex Submariner is by far the best diver and still remains the benchmark for all dive watches.

  • @caktaylor
    @caktaylor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m wearing my Seiko SPB147 as I watch this. Great watch!

  • @_DioBrando_
    @_DioBrando_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my opinion, the best luxury dive watch ever is the Rolex SD4K. In terms of specs, dimensions, aesthetic and prestige I don't think it can be beat.

  • @jacometti
    @jacometti ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It's just peak watch culture to not rate dive use when discussing dive watches. You've played yourself.

    • @DWilliam1
      @DWilliam1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That and using “street cred” as a category..JOKE!!!

    • @chuckmynorris
      @chuckmynorris ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DWilliam1 Oh, you mean the most likely to get robbed -category?

    • @christopperlondel3318
      @christopperlondel3318 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true.

    • @MeestroDavid
      @MeestroDavid ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I actually admire them for dropping the pretense that actual divers still rely on mechanical watches (especially those costing thousands) and accepting that this nothing more than a styling genre with some benchmark specs for marketing points.

    • @PabloTBrave
      @PabloTBrave ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeestroDavid divers usually have two dive watches or usually a dive computer and a backup dive watch

  • @powerplay.556
    @powerplay.556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining video. Loved it!
    I also love the scorecard approach, but the attributes you used are horrible.
    I use these:
    - History/Tradition
    - Brand reputation (ok, street cred)
    - Overall look/Aesthetics
    - Comfort (so important)
    - Quality/Features (e.g. movement, power reserve, depth rating, complications, transparent case back, lume…)
    - Price (relative to my own price sensitivity)
    The total score is ‘value’ so it shouldn’t be an attribute. ‘Iconic’ is a combination of your ‘history’ and ‘street cred.’
    Anyway, I use my six point scorecard and have a (subjectively) handy collection.
    Sky Dweller (blue dial) (2020)
    Sea Dweller 43 (2022)
    Planet Ocean 43.5mm (rubber strap) (2020)
    Ultra Deep (rubber strap) (2023)
    Polaris (rubber strap) (2023)
    Did a refresh over time. Had a JLC Master Compressor World Alarm (2009), Hublot Big Bang Unico (2014), Blancpain Bathyscaphe (2020) and Tudor Pelagos (2018). Terrible resale for all of them (I buy new), except the Pelagos I made money. Bang for buck crazy good, but I couldn’t put it back on after acquiring the big brother.
    BTW, part of the street cred with Omega is its association with the Olympics. Agree, the Bond thing is embarrassing.
    Excuse my indulgence, but we’re all watch nerds, right? I can also say I genuinely love watches for their history, craftsmanship and engineering. Flex has very little to do with it and we know 99/100 people on the street have zero clue and zero interest.

  • @Awkwardfruitfly
    @Awkwardfruitfly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch head to heads are fun !

  • @larryp.450
    @larryp.450 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brilliant work and thank you both for such an enjoyable 21 minutes! My best lunchtime diversion in quite some time. Great format and very informative as well. Best of luck to Watchfinder!

    • @Will_E_Wonty
      @Will_E_Wonty ปีที่แล้ว

      "My best lunchtime DIVERsion in quite some time."
      Nicely done.

    • @massivewillie
      @massivewillie ปีที่แล้ว

      This is your boss....get back to work! lol

  • @hawkslayers1
    @hawkslayers1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First video from you I watched no pun intended but the scoring in beyond my understanding

  • @aulbraealexanderzamora1948
    @aulbraealexanderzamora1948 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its funny that you rate Seiko with the lowest quality, but Seiko will outlast all the watches here.

  • @RogueDroid
    @RogueDroid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you guys test these "dive watches" before rating..? Test them for what they're made for?

  • @SanderEvers
    @SanderEvers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rolex is great, but Seiko is more my price range. I have a nice Seiko Prospex diver with which I'm very happy.

  • @MrEricErejo
    @MrEricErejo ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this! Do more of this with other watch categories

  • @StardustLegacyFighter
    @StardustLegacyFighter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Citizen is the clear winner, since it's the only brand that actually makes an affordable and capable dive watch for proper diving.
    All the rest are only interested in showing off and meeting the minimum ISO ratings.

  • @diablokat
    @diablokat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why didn’t you test a Grand Seiko at the same level of the others?

  • @2yugen2
    @2yugen2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you ever find yourself feeling useless just remember you will never be as useless as a helium escape valve on an Omega Seamaster.

  • @AS-po9pm
    @AS-po9pm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you do in a good tender you throw the first and the last out which leaves you with the Omega. Was clear before you started the whole thing.

  • @AbnStubby
    @AbnStubby 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The categories “Iconic”, “History” and “Street Cred” have zero to do with being the BEST dive watch.
    “Quality” would absolutely have to come first since a diver would be trusting a watch with their life.
    And the “Value” category would be a very distant second.
    And that’s it.
    The other categories are just the equivalent of someone saying, “Wow…Cool story, bro.”
    They shouldn’t even be a metric in choosing the best dive watch.

  • @drnick40
    @drnick40 ปีที่แล้ว

    I immensely enjoy my Glashutte Original SeaQ. I dare to make a point that the quality of this watch is better than the one mentioned in this video, and therefore hugely unappreciated.

  • @manot87
    @manot87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have loved seeing more objective criterias beeing part of the ranking, like power reserve, anti-magnetisme, precision of the movement, quality of the lume etc. This felt more like a collection of your own feelings and opinions. A lot of points go towards the more arbitrary categories for which there are no measures besides your own opinions. Take those away and the whole ranking changes.

  • @andrewgee2775
    @andrewgee2775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a chronograph comparison next? Love the content guys. Cheers

  • @MerlintheMaineCoon
    @MerlintheMaineCoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Pelagos 42 is the best diver. Period.

  • @TheSuperGenius
    @TheSuperGenius ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Fifty Fathoms didn't make the cut! SERIOUSLY?!!

  • @jimbo6612
    @jimbo6612 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "quality" and "iconic" categories for Seiko were totally unfair 👎
    While I agree GS is what you go to for quality, this still didn't deserve a measly 5!
    You also went on about the rich history of the 1965 and then proceeded to completely underscore it in the "iconic" category. Doesn't make sense.
    IMHO, both "quality" and "iconic" categories for Seiko should be bumped up by one point each 👍

  • @mccloryjim
    @mccloryjim 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a seiko fan and owner of many I'm so pleased to see so many viewers carrying the torch for seiko,so so much more than a cheap brand

  • @PapriceP
    @PapriceP ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7 for Submariner quality? Is this some kind of revelry?

  • @DrGraaff
    @DrGraaff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an awesome idea for a video.
    Please do more like this.

  • @mrbud8524
    @mrbud8524 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own 3 on that list the Omega Seamaster 300 42m is everything what you want in a watch

  • @FFFFelix
    @FFFFelix ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this a lot! 👏🏽

  • @anthonyhyba261
    @anthonyhyba261 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What score would the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms get?

  • @Chris-mm5gi
    @Chris-mm5gi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the video. Would love to see how you’d rate an Oris Aquis and Glashutte Original SEAQ with this pack.

  • @edm9527
    @edm9527 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked in the North Sea saturation dive industry in the 1990's as a gasman and dive tech, 80% of the divers wore Rolex SeaDwellers or Subs, NO ONE wore Omega, Tudor or Breitling. A couple of guys wore Seiko

  • @thomasallen3818
    @thomasallen3818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You picked the Tudor Black Bay and then say it’s not as good as the others because it doesn’t have this and that. Well, you should have picked the Tudor Pelagos 42mm because it does have a ceramic bezel, a helium release valve, a titanium case and bracelet, and an expandable clasp. It too is COSC certified, with an in house movement. And at 1/2 the price of the Submariner and a couple grand under the Omega, you can’t beat it.

  • @tangoadvance8393
    @tangoadvance8393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think I’d take the Superocean out of those. Looks fresh in comparison.

  • @Huwberts_Emporium
    @Huwberts_Emporium ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Odd choice of Seiko diver chaps, whilst I do own and love the 1965 re-issue (SPB143) it doesn't compete with the other watches in your line up, it's more in line with something entry level like a Certina, ORIS, Squale, Tissot etc. You should have put up the Seiko Marinemaster (SLA021, SLA023 etc) and you'd have a better representation of Seiko's ability to make a premium diver and compete with some of these Swiss luxury tools.

  • @CTrillz
    @CTrillz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    History for Seiko in America in regards to the turtle and the crown at 3 diver models is, during the 60s-70s these watches surged in popularity with American Soldiers and risk takers of the newer recreational activity of scuba diving. Wearing them as an affordable and typically necessary tools of the trade. There is a decorated history of usage that in this list of brands Seiko out trumps except for Rolex. Seiko 8. Rolex 9 blancpan 10.

  • @Chenxi_love_music_fairy
    @Chenxi_love_music_fairy ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is very helpful and a real comparison. I have Rolex, Tudor and Seiko dive watches. However I like my Tudor pelagos 39 most and it is the best diver watch to me.

  • @malyu6374
    @malyu6374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sort of agree, but why not Grand Seiko in the list? Or at least the LX series.

  • @RaghavHari
    @RaghavHari ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrew & Tom, this was simply brilliant and hilarious at the same time!!😂🎉👏🏻😇👍🏻

  • @holgermuller3597
    @holgermuller3597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing beats a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Even with a Submariner on your arm you have to hide in an underground car park till it passed by . And that is the reason why the Blancpain didn´t take part in the competition ‼

  • @willmanfilms5541
    @willmanfilms5541 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a black bay, and a tag heuer Aquaracer, and of the 2 I fine myself coming back to my tag the most

  • @nspinicelli
    @nspinicelli ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not a “special” person, I was just willing to wait for 1.75 years for the Submariner. Arrives in December. As a buyer of a Submariner I’d say the top two divers are the Sub and the Seiko.

  • @teecchnoboy
    @teecchnoboy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for me 600m Omega Planet Ocean 43.5mm calibre 8900 is best looking and solid diver watch ever made, planet ocean is better than a regular 300m seamaster quality and movement wise